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cannot read Chinese texts:

More arguments about the Wuji->Heishui Mohe/Sumo Mohe->Balhae->Jurchen Jin connections

In the first paragraph of the entire book "Canonical History Records of Jurchen Jin Dynasty, Volume 1", Jurchen Jin's official historians admitted that Jurchen was from Mohe. According to the same authoritative book, there were 7 Wuji tribes at the time of

". Note that this was the official view of the Jurchen Jin Dynasty, it is crazy to assume that they wanted to make fun of their own ancestral line in the authoritative book.--Jiejunkong 23:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Detailed explanations

Goguryeo's relation with ancient states located in modern China and Korea[1]

Jurchen Jin
official historians. It is unimaginable that they want to give themselves a false ancestral line, in particular in their authoritative history records.

  • Explanation of the two connections: one between "Wuji 7 tribes" and two "Mohe"s; another between "
    Jurchen Jin
    ".
Sumo Mohe
survived, the other five tribes were gone.)
  • Explanation of the two connections: one between "
    Sumo Mohe" and "Balhae
    ".
Tang Dynasty destroyed Goguryeo, Sumo Mohe guarded Dong Mou Mountain, later became Balhae
, and there was a king, lasted for more than ten generations).
  • The red "Conquered" lines can be easily seen from the related Wikipedia main articles of those dynasties.
  • The age of every dynasty can also be found in the related Wikipedia main article of the dynasty.

Therefore, the diagram is solely based on a single verifable authoritative source Canonical History Records of Jurchen Jin Dynasty, Volume 1 with literal translation. There is no interpretation in the depiction. The accusation from User:Visviva saying that this diagram is a concatenation of multiple sources is incorrect and invalid.

This Jurchen Jin's view is supported by multiple Han Chinese people's official records (at the moment, Han Chinese and Jurchens were the worst enemy of each other). User:Visviva incorrectly thought I assembled multiple sources. This is his incorrect random guess. There is no assembling here. The proofs are merely supportive. The Canonical History Records of Jurchen Jin Dynasty, Volume 1 alone is a valid verifiable source.

  1. Dae Jo-yeong of Balhae Mohe, was a descedent of Goguryeo). Here Dae Jo-yeong is the indisputable founder of Balhae
    .
  2. Sumo Mohe joining Goguryeo. When Goguryeo was destroyed, he led his people to guard Dong Mou Mountain, located to the very east of YinZhou, with southern border touching Silla separated by River Ni, eastern border at sea, western border touching Khitan
    . They built cities to reside in, and Goguryeo remnants joined them.)
  3. Dae Jo-yeong of Goguryeo escaped and guarded the land to the east Khitan. Emperor Ruizong of Tang assigned him to be the commanding officer of HuHanZhou and King of Balhae, thus his land was called Balhae.)--Jiejunkong 03:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
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The reason why canonical history records are reliable sources

The wikirule

Samguk Sagi and the Chinese canonical record Zizhi Tongjian. After the explanation, those users who cannot refute the explanation, but still persist to block these reliable sources are blatant denial-of-service attackers who try to promote their own POV to degrade the wikipedia contents.--Jiejunkong 01:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply
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