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::That's a general answer; I was looking for a more specific answer. Is there a particular edit you want to make right now if you could? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::That's a general answer; I was looking for a more specific answer. Is there a particular edit you want to make right now if you could? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, I would like to leave a farewell message at [[User talk:Larataguera]], who seems to have left the project dispirited a few months after I was forced out. We were both trying to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia, and I had a lot of positive interactions with them. I hope to encourage them to return at some point. &emsp;&mdash;&hairsp;<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Freoh|Freoh]]</span> 17:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, I would like to leave a farewell message at [[User talk:Larataguera]], who seems to have left the project dispirited a few months after I was forced out. We were both trying to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia, and I had a lot of positive interactions with them. I hope to encourage them to return at some point. &emsp;&mdash;&hairsp;<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Freoh|Freoh]]</span> 17:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::::{{rpa}} [[User:Display name 99|Display name 99]] ([[User talk:Display name 99|talk]]) 21:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::::{{tq|after I was forced out}} You weren't forced out. You were given a partial block because many editors were annoyed with you because, among many other things, you seemed to have given yourself a role of some sort unofficial "Wikipedia policeman," going around unsolicited to editors' talk pages unsolicited and redacting their comments without justification or authority to do so instead of focusing on improving content. The decision to quit editing entirely was your own. As for "systemic bias," the fact that you did not receive an indefinite block, and just got the last block partially overturned, despite making it clear that you are editing for ideological purposes, is proof that the systemic bias that you speak of works in the opposite direction that you seem to think it does. I am proof of that. [[User:Display name 99|Display name 99]] ([[User talk:Display name 99|talk]]) 21:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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Return from exile?

Hi Tamzin, I would like to return to Wikipedia, but first I need to better understand your rationale for banning me. You criticized me for actions that I took in an attempt to improve Wikipedia's somewhat toxic culture, and I thought that everything I was doing was well within the bounds of the policies and guidelines. You accused me of stirring drama, but I am still unclear how editors are supposed to resolve user conduct disputes without others finding such confrontation disruptive. I hope to once again be a productive contributor to the project.  — Freoh 00:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Freoh. I am no longer an admin, and am not participating in administrative discussions. You can submit an unblock request through the normal system. --
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Request reason:

I believe that I was mistakenly blocked. An administrator blocked me for stirring drama and declined to explain further. My intention was and is to productively contribute to Wikipedia and encourage a civil atmosphere of collaboration. I have heeded prior advice from administrators and focused on content for the most part. Banning editors who express minority opinions simply because other editors respond with personal attacks is counterproductive.  — Freoh 13:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Let's try a trial run here. I have restored your access to the user talk namespace, that's what you wanted to do right now and hopefully that won't be too controversial. If that goes well, you may request unblock for the other spaces. 331dot (talk) 21:36, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are only blocked from the user talk, Wikipedia, and Wikipedia talk namespaces. What edits do you need to make in those namespaces? 331dot (talk) 13:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

331dot, I plan to use those namespaces in the same ways that other editors use them, similarly to how I used them before my expulsion: encouraging newcomers, contributing to consensus in centralized discussions, politely reminding others of the civility policy, awarding barnstars, removing personal attacks, et cetera.  — Freoh 14:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a general answer; I was looking for a more specific answer. Is there a particular edit you want to make right now if you could? 331dot (talk) 15:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would like to leave a farewell message at User talk:Larataguera, who seems to have left the project dispirited a few months after I was forced out. We were both trying to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia, and I had a lot of positive interactions with them. I hope to encourage them to return at some point.  — Freoh 17:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Personal attack removed) Display name 99 (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]