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== Creationism and NPOV ==
'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Funplussmart|funplussmart]] ([[User talk:Funplussmart|talk]]) '''at''' 22:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Involved parties ===
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*{{userlinks|Funplussmart}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|1990'sguy}}
*{{admin|JzG}}
*{{userlinks|Jytdog}}
*{{admin|PaleoNeonate}}
*{{userlinks|Rhododendrites}}
*{{admin|Acdixon}}

;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&diff=859574339&oldid=859566657]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JzG&diff=859574426&oldid=859309259]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jytdog&diff=859574474&oldid=859463673]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PaleoNeonate&diff=859574529&oldid=859559265]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rhododendrites&diff=859574562&oldid=858617353]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Acdixon&diff=859574584&oldid=859314139]

;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
*[[Wikipedia|Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents#1990'sguy]]
*[[Talk:Is Genesis History?]]

=== Statement by Funplussmart ===
A dispute mostly involving the article [[Is Genesis History?]] has caused a lot of edit warring and possible POV pushing. Both sides are accusing each over of bias. 1990'sguy has an admitted bias when it comes to creationism, and while he mostly maintains a NPOV, sometimes his beliefs slip through. The noticeboard discussion is a mess, and concurrences if or how 1990'sguy should be sanctioned is very unclear. I suggested a 1RR restriction, but that hasn't went anywhere either. I feel that other editors are being hard on 1990'sguy only because of his controversial beliefs. I think letting the arbitrators decide what to do about this would be the best course of action at this point.
:{{ping|Jytdog}}, and that previous ruling has not stopped this problem from happening. [[User:Funplussmart|funplussmart]] ([[User talk:Funplussmart|talk]]) 22:28, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I realize I have made a big mistake filing this case. How can I withdraw? [[User:Funplussmart|funplussmart]] ([[User talk:Funplussmart|talk]]) 23:54, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Statement by 1990'sguy ===

=== Statement by JzG ===
I don't think 1990'sguy's creationist activism rises to the level of an arbitration case. This also falls well below the threshold of prior attempts at dispute resolution. One not-yet-closed ANI thread. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 22:36, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Statement by Jytdog ===
This is a surprising filing to me. We have what I believe is our first set of cases at ANI which have not been fully worked through, so it is not ripe. ( I had been considering an AE case, but decided to go ahead and work with the ANI case that was filed) Creationism unambiguously falls under the existing [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience#Discretionary_sanctions|pseudoscience DS]]. We do not need a new case specifically for creationism. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 22:24, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
:[[User:Funplussmart]] obviously I don't agree, and in any case AE would be the next step, not a new case. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 22:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Statement by PaleoNeonate ===
I don't think that we need to repeat [[WP:ARBPS]]. If that's not the intention, the aim of the case should probably be clarified. —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 23:01, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Statement by Rhododendrites ===
As thrilled as I am to be named in an arbcom case request for the first time, I'm not sure why we're here. The first and only ANI thread is not yet closed, has some clear questions, and several people have given clear opinions. It may not result in any kind of action and may not resolve anything, but we're far from exhausting all other options. The article at the center of the dispute is already tagged for discretionary sanctions, there are RfCs that could happen, there are AE requests that could happen, etc. &mdash; <samp>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></samp> \\ 22:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Statement by Acdixon ===
=== Statement by Count Iblis ===
Note: God created the universe two minutes ago, including Wikipedia in the state it was in then. This means that no ArbCom case was actually filed by anyone, therefore ArbCom should not accept the case. [[User:Count Iblis|Count Iblis]] ([[User talk:Count Iblis|talk]]) 23:02, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

=== Statement by {Non-party} ===
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
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=== Creationism and NPOV: Clerk notes ===
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=== Creationism and NPOV: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0> ===
{{anchor|1=Creationism and NPOV: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)</small>
*{{ping|funplussmart}} The Committee will instruct the clerks to close the case request. '''[[User:Mkdw|<span style="color:black;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">Mkdw</span>]]''' [[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''<span style="color: #0B0080;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">talk</span>''</sup>]] 00:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

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