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Hi ToBeFree, I'm fairly new to Wikipedia so my apologies as I am still learning how to use the talk section. I read an article about gaps wikipedia has in relation to women and I decided to try and contribute more information about female-founded companies and female startup founders.^[1] I do know some of the women I am trying to add, what is the proper way to cite that? Also, to push this forward and get more notable women should I be simply requesting for others to create the pages with their work or request for someone else to be profiling them instead of contributing that information myself? Pumpkin candle (talk) 01:36, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pumpkin candle, thanks for asking. If you have a personal connection to a person, please do not edit Wikipedia about them. Please also disclose your connection, if any, to "CareMessage", on your user page. You can do so by clicking here and explaining your connection to the topic of Draft:CareMessage.

I may have more advice to offer, but only if such connections have been properly disclosed. Feel free to inform me when this has happened. General advice can be found at

Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and Wikipedia:FAQ/Article subjects, for organizations and people, respectively. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply

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In regards to my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Home_(American_Electronic_Band), you said that is doesnt not have enough sources. I have some articles and other sources written about the artist, do you think including a style section or something similar with links to those sources is what you need to wrap it up? I was planning on adding articles about some of the albums as well, but I can include some of the content on the artist page as well. Greenkingwashere (talk) 22:39, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Greenkingwashere, my main concern is only whether such sources exist at all. They do not have to be used in the article, but the article should at very least contain a link to them. Perhaps a "Further Reading" section can already prove notability.

If you like to, I'll have a look at the three best sources you can find, according to the general notability criteria that are described in (over)simplified form at

WP:42. If you are interested in such an analysis, feel free to add up to three links to the bottom of this talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply

]

I found an article about them I just added to the draft, and I dug up an interview that should provide more info. I'll add them to the draft then submit again. Greenkingwashere (talk) 23:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Greenkingwashere, interviews are often not independent coverage. That said, of course, do feel free to re-submit the article and someone else will provide a second opinion. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:10, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

hello mr free, i apologize for my previous remarks and am especially sorry for any damage i have caused. sincerely, me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18A:104:BD40:CD5D:A128:6FA6:7E05 (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey 2601:18A:104:BD40:CD5D:A128:6FA6:7E05, do I correctly understand that this is about

Wikipedia Adventure. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:22, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply

]

Thanks ToBeFree. I've marked it for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83Gulf (talk • contribs) 21:52, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 83Gulf, you're welcome – I'm always a bit sad to see that happen, but I think it's a reasonable decision.

On a lighter note, thank you for contributing to Wikipedia: I see that you have already edited many other articles, and that your first edit anniversary will be on Thursday this week. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:11, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Your work is appreciated! S0091 (talk) 19:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey S0091, thank you very much!

We seem to meet each other often. I appreciate your work as well! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:09, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have declined your revdel request on Tupperware because https://www.academia.edu/34798666/BLACK_BOOK_final_mom (listed in the linked earwig report) is a backwards copy, no cited refs appear to be copyright problems. If there is a problem here, please be much clearer on exactly what is copied and from where. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

WP:LINKVIO section of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Sorry for having been too unspecific about this; it is a bit tricky to describe a link violation without linking to the infringement oneself. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:22, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply

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Thank you!  Done I am not sure that linkvio in the history alone needs revdel, but the revision in this case had nothing of significant value anyway, and the YouTube vid was clearly a copyvio. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:27, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you,

RD1; the sentence "However, if you know or reasonably suspect that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work."^[1] seems to contain a condition that, uh, could possibly be argued not to apply to clueless violations by new editors. This would be a weird condition if it really had to be taken into account when deciding whether to revision-delete links to clear copyright violations. And do administrators perhaps knowingly contribute to the "linking" if they actively deny such a request? I'm not a lawyer; perhaps I'm talking nonsense. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply

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--Skanake (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Skanake, you're welcome. :)

About the article: As you have a connection to the person, and thus a

Wikipedia Adventure

, before even thinking about article creation.

Please forward the following advice page to the person you hopefully do not yet create an article about: WP:FAQ/Article subjects.

Thank you very much in advance and sorry for the probably disappointing answer. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I get it, thanks. I'll work on a different subject.

Thanks for the advice. I'll work on a few more edits and see how it goes.

Regards, --Skanake (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Skanake, thank you very much for the consideration. I wish you good luck, enjoy editing, and do feel free to ask here or at the Teahouse whenever questions arise. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:04, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ToBeFree,

I noticed the edits I made on Harry Dodge were deleted and I am a bit confused. You left me a message saying there may be a conflict of interest? I made a draft of the page... Maybe you can review it as you suggested? Let me know what I can do and thank you for the tips! Here is the link to the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Harry_Dodge

talk soon Kekatcan (talk) 19:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kekatcan, nice to meet you. Do you have any connection to Harry Dodge? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:42, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No I don't have any connection to Harry Dodge.. I'm interested in his work and saw that his wiki page is not updated Kekatcan (talk) 20:05, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kekatcan, please explain the existence of the following document:

• http://harrydodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/EXTENDED-BIOGRAPHICAL-NOTES-for-website.pdf

~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The source is me. Thank you for not interfering unless you really know something about the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.152.220 (talk) 20:05, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 24.12.152.220, thank you very much for the clarification.

Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.
— Wikipedia:Verifiability

Or, as Jimmy Wales once wrote,

If it is true, it should be easy to supply a reference.
— https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-July/050773.html

You may like to use the "Cite" button of the visual editor to easily provide an inline citation. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! As a student of this school, I was wondering (after seeing your contributions to its wikipedia page) what relationship you bear to it? I've not met any German students here- nor are there any teachers from there either. How did you come across my school's page, and why the interest in it?

This might come off as rude, but trust me that this is not the case AT ALL- I am simply curious.

- Emma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8F8:1125:8EF2:A104:8304:120C:75FF (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Emma, no worries. Nice to meet you.

It may be surprising, but many Wikipedia editors do not have a close connection to the topics they write about. We try to avoid editing articles if we have a conflict of interest; experienced editors usually do not edit articles about their employer, their friends or their family. The volunteer community is especially critical of paid editing, which is tolerated only within strict limits.

Some Wikipedia editors regularly have a look at

artificial neural networks and a huge database of edits known to be "good" or "bad". New edits are compared against the database entries, and a list of "probably bad" edits appears 🡆here🡄

.

This is how I found the text that I have removed in Special:Diff/884043392, for example. I have no connection to the school; I just stumbled upon the page in the list of recent changes.

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for your contributions! I wasn't aware of these things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InbetweenCupsOfTea (talk • contribs) 15:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much!

I'm incredibly grateful for the links you have provided me (and the cookies..). As you may have noticed, I have a very rudimentary understanding of editing on Wikipedia- removing vandalism and fixing grammatical mistakes is all I can manage at the moment. I've been wanting to delve further into this for a while now- looks like now's the time!

Thanks again,

InbetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 16:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, InbetweenCupsOfTea. I'm happy to hear that.

You may like using the following three links as stepping stones:

• The Community Portal
• The Wikipedia Adventure
• The Task Center

Have fun editing and feel free to ask if any questions arise.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just FYI for what 100kb is referring to, see

Hi Alanscottwalker, thank you very much for the kind notification. I have now added a "correction" note to the answer. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:40, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I'm about to log off to make dinner, so will probably miss your RfA's formal closure - but as the outgoing 'newest admin', I wanted to be the first to congratulate the incoming one - welcome to the corps! Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 18:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, Girth Summit. This is a nice idea, I'll pass it on to the next successful candidate. Bon appétit! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree, (editing on phone while stirring some slowly-frying onions) cool - will this be the start of a time-honored traditional? GirthSummit _(blether) 19:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, that would be awesome. I thought you had inherited it. If it's your idea, congratulations: This will become a thing. That is, unless someone breaks the chain. We may have to intrudoce a requirement for the previous candidate to remind them if needed. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The bigger issue is sneaking past all of these unobliging souls wanting to wish successful candidates congratulations, which personally I just view as inconsiderate! ;) Nosebagbear (talk) 21:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree, no I didn't inherit it, so I guess it's our thing! I'm now imagining a template with an imageof some sort of 'torch of newbia', with a link to The Chain! GirthSummit _(blether) 21:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

+1! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 18:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's nice to meet you again, Javert2113. Thank you very much for your support, the congratulations and the beer. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As implied by those above, your RFA was successful. Congratulations! Primefac (talk) 18:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, Primefac! Suddenly, before I saw the closure, many new buttons and links appeared on my screen. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats TBF. I'll let someone else dig out the t-shirt, but I did want to say it's good to have you on board. Feel free to abuse me with any questions or anything you may have. — Ched (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Thank you very much for the offer and the support. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:47, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SWAT! Still working on the uniforms so for now, feel free to use this t-shirt Regards SoWhy 18:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply

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Hey SoWhy. I can't thank you enough for your wonderful nomination. 🌈 Thank you for making this possible. While it should perhaps ideally have no effect, I think a self-nomination would at very least have been more exhausting. Your volunteer time made my volunteering possible; I'll make sure to offset that over time. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:57, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations TBF. I look forward to seeing you around. AmericanAir88^(talk) 18:48, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the congratulations and the support, AmericanAir88. The same to you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! You might find Wikipedia:Administrators' guide helpful, but either way, time to get to work! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have got mail Thank you very much, Amory, also for the wonderful co-nomination. I will do my best to meet the high expectations that may come with the stunning RfA result.

It was a pleasure to plan and run this candidature with you two. Thank you for your time and work, and for a wonderful week. 🌈 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

On behalf of good Wikipedians everywhere, I present you with your level 1 mop. May it serve you long and well. Your gilded and diamond encrusted level 60 mop is on back order :) Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 19:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

😂 Didn't know that image yet. It's a pretty mop, you can keep the one with diamonds. Thank you very much. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! A cabal representative will be along shortly to provide you with the secret handshake and a progress report on the world domination plan Look forward to seeing you around, have fun with the mop and reading! :) Nosebagbear (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's a typo on page 3 and the paper has no edit button. Who wrote this? Thank you very much, Nosebagbear. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you weren't playing around like Fuhghettaboutit? Nosebagbear (talk)

Felicitations and welcome to the team. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ad Orientem, thank you very much, for the support too. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:59, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations and good luck; glad to have had a chance to support your RFA. Donner60 (talk) 04:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to have your support,

talk) 10:23, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply

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Okay So Developments

Okay because I was doing this for school, I contacted the company to see if they could point me to information that would help with making sure this article was beyond a "neologism". Obviously, now I guess you could say I may have a conflict of interest to disclose because in getting them to show me some of their data they are now vested in me getting this published. So How should I go about this.

https://en.everybodywiki.com/Fraud_Orchestration

https://www.fico.com/blogs/orchestration-tailor-made-business-rules

https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/opinions/fighting-fraud-with-data/

https://www.kount.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Ebook-Fraud-in-a-Digital-World.pdf

https://www.bankinfosecurity.asia/how-automation-orchestration-help-cisos-a-12575

These are articles they sent me and they have a medium article so I do not know if that counts toward what you are looking for? Again this was more an experience to me wanting to learn to make a wikipedia page from a topic I learned about in law school, specializing in an emerging legal area as well. Sorry that was a lot, I just want to make sure I am properly handling this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brettq888 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brettq888,

this is probably less problematic than most conflicts of interest, but I would recommend explaining the connection on your user page anyway. This allows others to quickly get an overview of the situation. You may like to copy the nice explanation from your first paragraph above.

Regarding the links: Interviews with company representatives and press releases by the company are not independent coverage. The blog at fico.com seems to be intended for commercial promotion, not independent journalism.

I personally would recommend not investing volunteer or school time into the promotion of a neologism on Wikipedia. Your work likely makes the company representatives or teachers happy, and they may encourage you to do so, but the efforts appear to be misdirected.

Please have a look at our wonderful

Wikipedia Adventure

for more productive ideas.

If you disagree with this assessment, feel free to improve your draft at Draft:Fraud Orchestration at any time, and feel free to "Resubmit" it for review. An independent other reviewer will then have a look and provide a second opinion. However, please note that no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. If something is not notable, no article about it can exist on Wikipedia, no matter how well-written it is.

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Hello! We have added new citations with a neutral tone in October to our page for submission. Just wanted to be sure you had them? Thankyou in advance! Sillaro Valley (talk) 17:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sillaro Valley, "we" is only you, I hope. :)

The draft has been correctly submitted for review. It may take about 8 weeks, and you will be notified at User talk:Sillaro Valley.

Best regards,

talk) 18:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply

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A cup of coffee for you!

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