Suicide (band)

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Suicide
Rev and Vega before a 1988 concert
Rev and Vega before a 1988 concert
Background information
OriginNew York City, New York, U.S.
Genres
Years active1970–2016 (intermittently)
LabelsRed Star, ZE, ROIR International, Blast First/Mute
Past members

Suicide was an American musical duo composed of vocalist

drum machines, and their early performances were confrontational and often ended in violence.[7] They were among the first acts to use the phrase "punk music" in an advertisement for a concert in 1970—during their very brief stint as a three-piece including Paul Liebegott.[8][9]

Though never widely popular among the general public, Suicide have been recognized as among the most influential acts of their era. Their debut album

History

Rev and Vega met and became friends in 1970. After the former's

UK and Western Europe. They continued to perform sporadically in the following decades, until playing their final shows in 2015. Shows scheduled for the following year were cancelled, due to Vega's declining health and eventual death.[12]

According to a 2002 interview of Alan Vega, the name of the band was inspired by the title of a Ghost Rider comic book issue titled "Satan Suicide". He further explained, "We were talking about society’s suicide, especially American society. New York City was collapsing. The Vietnam War was going on. The name Suicide said it all to us."[13]

Rev's simple keyboard riffs, which were initially played on a battered Farfisa organ combined with effects units, before changing to a synthesizer, were accompanied by primitive drum machines. This provided a pulsing, minimalistic, electronic backdrop for Vega's murmuring and nervy vocals. It was the first band to use the term punk to describe itself, which the band had adopted from an article by Lester Bangs. Some of the band's earliest posters use the terms "punk music" and "punk music mass".

Early notoriety

Suicide emerged alongside the early

23 Minutes Over Brussels", a recording of a Suicide concert that later deteriorated into a riot
.

The band's first album,

31 Songs, describes the track as something you would listen to "only once".[16]

Other projects

In 1986, Alan Vega collaborated with Andrew Eldritch of The Sisters of Mercy on the Gift album, released under the name of The Sisterhood. In 1996, Vega collaborated with Alex Chilton and Ben Vaughn on the album Cubist Blues.[17] Vega and Rev have both released solo albums.

Return

In 2002, Suicide released their first album in over a decade, titled American Supreme. Sales, however, were slow, and critical reception was mixed.

In 2005, SAF Publishing put out Suicide No Compromise, a "docu-biography" by David Nobahkt, which featured extensive interviews with Vega and Rev as well as many of their contemporaries and famous fans.

In 2008,

Blast First Petite released Alan Vega 70th Birthday Limited Edition EP Series—a monthly, limited-edition series of 10" vinyl EPs and downloads by major artists, honoring Alan Vega's 70th birthday. Among those paying tribute were Bruce Springsteen, Primal Scream, Peaches, Grinderman, Spiritualized, The Horrors, +Pansonic, Julian Cope, Lydia Lunch, Vincent Gallo, LIARS, and The Klaxons. The label also released Suicide: 1977–1978, a 6-CD box set, the same year.[18]

In September 2009, the group performed their debut LP live in its entirety as part of the All Tomorrow's Parties-curated Don't Look Back series.

In May 2010, the band performed the entire first album live at two London concerts, double billed with Iggy & The Stooges performing Raw Power.[19] The band performed their final concert at London's Barbican Centre on 9 July 2015.[20] Billed as 'A Punk Mass', the show featured solo sets by both Rev and Vega before a headlining Suicide performance. Henry Rollins, Bobby Gillespie, and Jehnny Beth made guest appearances. The concert received positive reviews.[21][22][23]

Alan Vega died in his sleep on July 16, 2016, at the age of 78.[24] His death was announced by musician and radio host Henry Rollins, who shared an official statement from Vega's family on his website.[25]

Influences

The duo was influenced by musicians such as

Question Mark & the Mysterians, [27] and Silver Apples.[28][27]

Martin Rev was a student of Lennie Tristano.[29]

They were also influenced by films and directors such as Alejandro Jodorowsky’s El Topo,[30] David Lynch,[31] and John Waters.[31]

Legacy

Musicians who have listed Suicide as an influence include, among others,

Covers

In 1994, The Crow: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack contains "Ghost Rider", covered by the Rollins Band. That same year The Fatima Mansions released a cover of "Diamonds, Fur Coat, Champagne", as part of their 1994 single "Nite Flights". In May 1999, ? and the Mysterians released a cover of "Cheree" on the album More Action.

The riff from "Ghost Rider" was sampled extensively in

M.I.A.'s single, "Born Free", released in April 2010.[49] Martin Rev joined M.I.A. to perform the song on the Late Show with David Letterman
.

In mid-2009, the band The Horrors released a cover of the song "Shadazz", as part of a tribute to Alan Vega and his work. They have performed it many times live, along with another Suicide song, "Ghost Rider". Later that year, Primal Scream and Miss Kittin covered the song "Diamonds, Fur Coat, Champagne" for a limited-edition 10-inch vinyl pressing. A total of 3,000 copies were pressed and released on March 30, 2009.[50]

"Ghost Rider" was covered by the garage punk band The Gories, and released on the album Cheapo Crypt Sampler No. 2.[51] In April 2011, the influential dance-punk band LCD Soundsystem used a snippet from "Ghost Rider" during the song "Losing My Edge", and covered the Alan Vega solo effort "Bye Bye Bayou" during their final concert, held in a sold-out Madison Square Garden. The song was also covered by British duo The Last Shadow Puppets at New York City's Terminal 5, as a tribute to Alan Vega, shortly after his death in 2016.[52][53]

In April 2012, Neneh Cherry released a cover of the song "Dream Baby Dream", which appeared on her album The Cherry Thing.[54] In May 2014, The band Savages, also released a live cover of the song as a b-side of their single "Fuckers"/"Dream Baby Dream" 12". Other artists who covered the song include Bruce Springsteen in 2016, and Many Angled Ones & Guy McKnight, in August 2018.

Discography

Both Alan Vega and Martin Rev have recorded solo albums; see Alan Vega discography and Martin Rev discography.

Studio albums

  • 1977 – Suicide
  • 1980 – Suicide: Alan Vega and Martin Rev
  • 1988 – A Way of Life
    • The 2005 Blast First/Mute/EMI CD reissue has a slightly different mix of the album, most notably the song "Surrender", and includes a live
      bonus disc recorded in 1987 and videos for "Dominic Christ"[55] and "Surrender" by Stefan Roloff
      .
  • 1992 – Why Be Blue
    • The 2005 Blast First/Mute/EMI CD reissue includes a live bonus disc recorded in 1989 and a complete remix by Martin Rev of the original album and different track order.
  • 2002 – American Supreme
    • Initial CD copies included a live bonus disc recorded in 1998.

Live albums

  • 1978 – 21½ Minutes in Berlin/23 Minutes in Brussels
  • 1981 – Half Alive (a collection of live and demo material recorded from 1975–1979; originally released by ROIR on cassette only, with liner notes by Lester Bangs)
  • 1986 – Ghost Riders (a live concert from 1981 – originally released on cassette only)
  • 1997 – Zero Hour (late '70s live recordings)
  • 2004 – Attempted: Live at Max's Kansas City 1980 (soundboard recordings from a New York City rock club performance; with liner notes by Marty Thau)
  • 2008 – Live 1977–1978 (a six-CD box set containing 13 complete Suicide live performances from September 1977 to August 1978 plus bonus material)

EPs

  • 1978 –
    23 Minutes Over Brussels
  • 1998 – 22/1/98 – Reinventing America (recorded live at The Barbican – "Inventing America" launch party)

Singles

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  27. ^ . With Alan, events which oddly foreshadowed Suicide itself were taking place elsewhere in downtown Manhattan. He had just discovered the world's first two-man electronic band. They were called Silver Apples, and featured Simeon Coxe III singing over the otherwordly noise he coaxed out a pulsing heap of arcane electronic junk he called The Thing, all punctuated by highly creative drummer Danny Taylor. Alan recalls discovering the duo in the late sixties, and being first to spread the word in CBGB and Max's about their monumental place in the city's musical history. "They were so way out, man," he still enthuses. "I loved the minimalism of their stuff. I used to rave about the Silver Apples, but nobody had heard of them. That music was part of me so, from my angle, Suicide stole from the Velvets, Iggy, Question Mark & the Mysterians and the Silver Apples.
  28. . Vega, a melting pot of influences. Presley, Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Johnny Burnette (for the hiccups and chanting), Lou Reed, the wizard of Metal Machine Music (pre- or post-Suicide opus?), Captain Beefheart, the splenetic Dada master who blended rock and jazz, the nasty Garage scene's golden period of 1966-1967; pre-krautrock beep-obsessives Silver Apples, the heathens of Mississippi blues, like Hooker and Hopkins especially, the rap avengers Public Enemy and their formidable Bomb Squad; and of course the radicalism of what has been called free jazz since 1960.
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  36. . This US duo was an important influence on Birthday Party , Soft Cell , Sigue Sigue Sputnik , Nine Inch Nails and the Sisters of Mercy with their potent fusion of rockabilly and electronic music on cheap equipment...
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    Conor McCaffrey (August 4, 2017). "No Compromise: Remembering Suicide's Alan Vega – A True One-off". Moo Kid. Retrieved 21 December 2020. . One memorable festival moment of the last few years for me was Grinderman finishing on one stage at Primavera and Nick Cave ordering the crowd to rush over and see Suicide across the way, as "none of us bands would be here without them".
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  39. . By the end of the eighties, Suicide's influence could be heard in the output of the industrial dance/ rock/noise bands that emerged during that era. DAF's Die Kleinen UndDie Bosen album had much in common with Suicide. There was also The Neon Judgement, Dirk Ivens' Absolute Body Control, Nine Inch Nails, Ministry, Die Krupps and Front 242.
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  42. . There was also Bon Harris and Douglas McCarthy's band Nitzer Ebb, who had their own style of 'take no prisoners', beat driven electronic rock 'n' roll that came to form on their 1990 album Showtime.
  43. . Amongst the synth bands that emerged at the start of the eighties was Depeche Mode. Suicide's influence on their sound is indisputable. Martin L Gore of Depeche Mode told The Times newspaper, "The synthesizer before Suicide was always a clean-cut instrument, whereas they brought in a punk element." He went on to say, "That was a very important step in the history of electronic music, they were way before The Prodigy and the whole industrial scene." Alan Wilder, Depeche Mode's music director and keyboard player from '82 to '95, had taken notice of Suicide's sampled and manipulated guitar sounds whilst recording the 1990 album Violator. Wilder later commented on his Shunt Website. "When we recorded the track "Blue Dress" it was based around using washy sounding, drone guitars (a la Suicide) which formed the backbone of the track."
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  46. . Suicide's influence on electronic music was to carry on into the next decade with the Aphex Twin, Autechre and Two Lone Swordsmen having their Suicide-like moments.
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