Talk:2022 San Antonio migrant deaths

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On 3 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was moved to 2022 San Antonio migrant deaths.

In The News Candidate given the loss of life, which exceeds both the East London Tavern disaster and Oslo LGBT shooting (current ITN articles). Rainesa (talk) 13:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Most sources have 46 bodies found in the trailer, and a further four dying in hospital on 27-28 June. The number of dead by nationality (27+14+7+2) also sums to 50. However, by the end of 28 June, Reuters, San Antonio was reporting "at least 51", and the Lead references this, though subsequently increased, without source, to 53. Is the difference accounted for by later deaths amongst the hospitalized? Or others who had escaped the scene (so not in the original 46 + 16 migrants), but who later succumbed? Davidships (talk) 21:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

With no response and "Fifty-three migrants are found dead in a tractor-trailer" still unreferenced, and still appearing on the WP Main Page, I drew attention to this in the Talk age there. A source for the "53" was added today to the infobox, but there has still not been any editing of the article itself. To me it is amazing that there remains so much uncertainty over the number of fatalities. Initially it seemed that there was a general understanding that 46 bodies were found in and around the trailer, and that 16 injured migrants were taken to hospital. Thereafter it becomes very confused as what appears to be a rise in the stated death toll rises through 48, 49, 50, 51 to 53. Some of those additional seven (maybe all) have been reported as dying in hospital, so presumably from the 16 who were hospitalised. Yet some sources continue to state at each stage that they all died in the trailer, as if the police kept going back to the trailer over several days, finding more bodies that they missed before. That beggars belief.

Can any editor, who is more familiar with local official and media sources (and which sources can be considered more reliable) than I am, find their way through this? Davidships (talk) 21:43, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone even tried to help with this? It is not often that an article is pulled from the WP main page because it is so flawed. Twice as many deaths of Hispanic people as at

Uvalde, just down the road, and almost the only editing is multi-reverts over whether victims were "migrants" or "people". Just saying. Davidships (talk) 17:04, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply

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I agree it's troubling that the counts don't line up. Many sources state the death toll rose to 53; presumably that means additional persons died in the hospital. However, I don't see a source for that. Assambrew (talk) 19:46, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect 2022 Texas Trailer Truck and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 26#2022 Texas Trailer Truck until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 04:11, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldnthencountries of origin be used by this source because it is different than the older ones.https://sanantonioreport.org/mission-county-park-mural-honors-53-migrants-2022-tractor-trailer-tragedy/ 208.84.93.25 (talk) 19:50, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]