Talk:Al-Shabaab (militant group)

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MYM redirection

Ok this is Abit confusing why should mym redirect here? Shadychiri (talk) 15:42, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article is biased?

The opening paragraph says, "Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen, more commonly known as al-Shabaab, is a terrorist, jihadist fundamentalist group based in East Africa."

That part about terrorism sounds like something the US would say. Perhaps it would be better to write the article in a neutral manner. Or if you wish to choose a side, then select an Arab viewpoint for the country's proximity to the middle east and its muslim population. From the Arab point of view, the US are the terrorist and al-Shabaab are the freedom fighters.

Ironically, the US does not label itself as terrorists even though they are one of the biggest exporters in the world today. Confer, Yes, America Is Exporting Terrorism.

Jeffrey Walton (talk) 03:27, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any evidence that most Arabs view al-Shabaab as freedom fighters? Jim Michael (talk) 19:05, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the term "terrorist"

I'm not muslim, I'm not christian (although I was baptised one), indeed I'd class myself as a spiritual atheist (if that's not an oxymoron). However, I find the expression "terrorist" in reference to Al-Shabaab the opening paragraph of this wiki page worrying. It seems to me to put a purely "Western" view on the organisation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.207.144 (talk) 21:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's not specifically a Western view - some of the countries which designate al-Shabaab terrorist aren't in the West. Jim Michael (talk) 19:05, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Al-Shabaab (militant group has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 3 § Al-Shabaab (militant group until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal

I propose

WP:Too long and splitting would make this straightforward. QalasQalas (talk) 22:16, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply
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I lean towards agreeing, but I'm not sure. The vast majority of their operations are in Somalia while their other branches are relatively minor. Their power base is also mostly located in Somalia, southern Somalia to be precise. A generic Al-Shabaab page might not provide such emphasis. AzanianPearl (talk) 01:12, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with you that militant activity happened in Southern Somalia. QalasQalas (talk) 01:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps just add most of the sections that you want to split to one of the Somali Civil War articles. By no way the current conflict in Somalia is an insurgency. Perhaps make an article on the insurgency in Kenya? Guardafuuii (talk) 21:13, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For now, I disagree with a split. A comprehensive page may just be needed. AzanianPearl (talk) 19:15, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support JaxsonR (talk) 22:55, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]