Talk:All fourths tuning

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error in the diagram

The fretboard diagram has an error on the top string. It shows a sequence of G/A#/A/A# which should be G/G#/A/A# — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.42.240.239 (talk) 15:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eliminating the major third

Does anyone object to changing "It eliminates the major third in between the fourth and fifth strings" to refer to the major third between the "third and second strings"? The conventional way to count guitar strings is starting from the highest pitch string. Other articles refer to the G and B strings but that might not be accurate if you are referring to alternate tunings. --Jefmckenzie (talk) 15:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional citations

Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Virtually nothing in this article is sourced. Again:
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I copy-edited the article and sourced what I could using Sethares. There are only a couple citations needed left. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:52, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity?

This article typically gets between 20-40 daily readers. However, in the last few months, it gets hundreds or even two-thousand readers. Can anybody name which external sites (or events) are attracting readers to this article? Has Slash converted to perfect fourths tuning? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:20, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with discussion of disadvantages

The following paragraph from the article has a few problems:

However, seventh chords require severe hand-stretching in not only standard tuning, but also all-fourths tuning. For example, the C7 chord has notes on frets 3-8 in standard tuning (and all-fourths tuning). Consequently, seventh chords are rarely played in standard tuning. In their stead, standard-tuning and all-fourths tuning use "alternatively voiced" chords, which have the same notes but in different order (and perhaps in a different octave). An illustration shows a C7 chord (in standard tuning), which would be extremely difficult to play, and an "alternatively voiced" C7. In comparison, all seventh-chords can be played on three consecutive frets in major-thirds tuning.

  • If we read the paragraph charitably, we must assume that by 'seventh chords' the author means 'close-voiced seventh chords' (i.e. seventh chords built wholly of stacked thirds, or stacked thirds and seconds). This is a regrettable, non-standard usage. Any voicing of a seventh chord is standardly regarded as a seventh chord. (The author implies that more openly voiced seventh chords are not seventh chords at all, but '"alternatively voiced" chords'.)
  • The claim that 'seventh chords [i.e. close-voiced ones] require severe hand-stretching in ... standard tuning' is not true in general. A close-voiced root position major seventh chord, with the root on either the A or the D string, is easy to play in standard tuning. Same goes for other common close-voiced seventh chords with major sevenths (minor-major and maj7#5). (The author presumably wishes to disregard voicings that exploit open strings.) This objection wouldn't apply if, by 'seventh chords' the author meant dominant seventh chords. But this usage would be eccentric, and Wikipedia's article on seventh chords, which the paragraph links to, doesn't employ it.
  • The author says 'all seventh-chords can be played on three consecutive frets in major-thirds tuning'. This is false if we assume (as we have charitably done) that 'seventh chords' are close-voiced seventh chords. Close-voiced diminished seventh chords span four frets in this tuning (in all inversions). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.225.223 (talk) 06:04, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I removed this paragraph. Even if the above errors were to have been fixed, then the paragraph would still violate WP:DUE. I also added some chord diagrams from commons. 83.254.148.228 (talk) 08:07, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]