Talk:Boogie

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It would be helpful to know what metronome markings are thought to be appropriate to the boogie. It seems to me that the example is faster than a "shuffle," and that therefore the more operative aspect of boogie is perhaps not so much shuffle, as swing. (Yes, shuffle swings, but I'm not sure the boogie shuffles.) If that tempo is typical. Also, is not the pitch pattern in the example common to very many popular musics of the blues type? What distinguishes this pattern from other blues-like pieces? I suspect it is the speed. I admit my impression is due to the boogies I heard growing up in the sixties, and they were played by rock bands: if the faster boogie is typical of the sixties, perhaps that could be mentioned. Further: the expression "let's boogie" seems to suggest a faster speed: is this a more recent development, or is this more evidence that the boogie is basically quick? I have trouble with calling something quick a "shuffle." Certainly to "Shuffle Off to Buffalo" did not mean to get there quickly, but to get there at a relaxed rate. Xophorus (talk) 06:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the image shown does not contain any "e" 's, and still the text reads "they should be played stretching the fingers...". and then, according to the staff shown, on the third beat we see the "c" is played, which means the 7th of the "d" (root of the cord on the example) and the text reads that sometimes on the third beat, when playing the dominant, we might play the 7th. then why is it shown on the example as the norm?

The first two diagrams seem exactly the same while they should display a different riff, if i understand the text correctly?

A boogie is also the name of a skydiving event where a large number of skydivers meet at an airport (normally) to make a large number of skydives, often out of aircraft which are flown in especially for the event. It normally lasts more than one day, sometimes up to ten days, and is accompanied by night time partying.

Why is there nothing in this article about disco boogie? For example Get Up And Boogie. -71.51.51.120 22:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the same thing. What you are talking about is appropriation of a word, boogie, nothing to do with music style at all.JBDay 19:32, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is what the original poster was referring to, but DJs, collectors, vendors, and music bloggers are using boogie for c. 1979–1984 mid-tempo R&B. It's generally synth-heavy, and has elements of disco, funk, and/or electro(-funk) but isn't squarely in any of those categories. It's a regular topic on the DJHistory forums, and we discussed it recently in a Discogs forum. A few sources:

• Groove On Down (compilation liner notes; try Google cache or archive.org if it's not working)
• "The Building Blocks of Boogie" (magazine article; only the first 2 paragraphs and the last one matter)
• Destination: Boogie (compilation publicity)
• The "post-disco" entry on Allmusic (a questionable source for genres, but it does support the notion)

If you've tried searching eBay for 'boogie' records lately you've probably seen tons of this similarly-styled music being marketed as boogie, either in combination with disco or funk, or just on its own, but almost always distinct from disco proper.

Popularizing the term boogie for this music may just be evangelism initiated by certain London DJs in the last few years, but it does seem to have a bit more traction than post-disco as the name of a genre. Whether it should be acknowledged in the article yet, I don't know. —mjb (talk) 07:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Boogie (genre) article now exists, following AfD discussion (no consensus) for the post-disco article. —mjb (talk) 17:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why you do not enumerate the basic steps in boogie? i hope you look forward to that.Also why don't post pics about boogie.

What parts of this article are too technical for a general audience and how may they be improved? Hyacinth (talk) 02:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page needs a discussion of Boogie Blues - meaning one chord repetitive vamp music as popularized by John Lee Hooker and Canned Heat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.137.102 (talk) 00:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The Boogie Blues genre - not just its primary innovator, John Lee Hooker and Canned Heat as well known disciples - but a reference to the widespread accepted use of "boogie" when referring to this specific type of blues song would seem required.BluWill (talk) 20:35, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that at least half of the beats should be a dotted eight note followed by a sixteenth note (instead of two eight notes), to follow the same tempo that the sound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.56.166.138 (talk) 13:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No not at all: what I think you are thinking off is the 'swing' rhythm. This is normally notated using just eighth notes, and it either says to play in swing rhythm in the sheet music, or it is just assumed that you should play it in swing rhythm because of the style of music.

You can write it as you describe, but it is less common, and it is by no means necessary. Neil9999 (talk) 15:59, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The lead boogie sound clip is the bass line not the lead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.175.55.5 (talk) 17:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article begins by defining boogie "swung" and "shuffle", both of which refer to subdividing the beat into 3 parts, but the first two examples listed (Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode", T. Rex's "Get It On") subdivide the beat into two equal parts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevintimba (talk • contribs) 00:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, note the even, unswung, unshuffled subdivisions on 1929 recording "Pine Top's Boogie Woogie". Here's a citation:

"Sidney Louie Gunter, Jr. was born February 27, 1925, outside of Birmingham, Alabama. He learned the guitar as a boy, and early on he became intrigued by the boogie-woogie music that had taken root around Birmingham. Pine Top Smith, whose 1929 “Pine Top’s Boogie Woogie” on Brunswick was the first record to use the term, was from the area."

Dawson, Jim; Propes, Steve. What Was the First Rock 'n' Roll Record? (Kindle Locations 2386-2390). Wow Wow Publishing. Kindle Edition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevintimba (talk • contribs) 22:00, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Borizan 176.89.179.63 (talk) 20:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]