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In a short description, Kosovo is claimed as a country. Having in mind its non resolved international status, I propose that we use the term "partially recognized country", or "country under international dispute", instead of just "country in Southeast Europe". 194.24.248.216 (talk) 10:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it’s not recognized by China, Russia, or India. China and India alone account for the majority of the world’s population. Outright calling it a country is disingenuous and biased. I’m neither Serb or Albanian just an American calling it as I see it. 76.219.122.229 (talk) 00:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Country#Statehood....no guesswork pls...we regurgitate sources that follow international law. Moxy- 04:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good point, but this edit won't be made, but this won't be done, since encyclopedia is influenced by US politics, and at the moment, US recognizes Kosovo as a country. Alven192 (talk) 08:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be undue for the lede and too deferential to a strong anti-legitimist position in what is clearly a politicized conversation around the international status of Kosovo.

Other articles surrounding countries do not lede with this information, and instead relegate these items to their appropriate sections in the body. Proposing we do the same here, and otherwise request neutral arguments as to why this element should be preserved. Mistamystery (talk) 02:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All articles of countries in a similar position include recognition information in the lead, as it is a defining element of their contested statehood. CMD (talk) 03:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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in the info box of kosovo where it says the ethnic groups its inaccruate according to the latest census Ressa14457 (talk) 12:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a

"change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 12:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Kosovo has more UN member states (104) than Taiwan (12) that recognize it, yet Taiwan's article simply states it as a "country", while Kosovo's states it as a "country with partial diplomatic recognition". This seems biased to me. Is there any specific reason why Kosovo has this bit while Taiwan doesn't? Game2Winter (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're very different situations. Regarding this article specifically, Kosovo's partial diplomatic recognition has been a key aspect of its international engagement since it declared statehood. Kosovo leverages its partial recognition to gain further international presence, see eg. recent COE vote. CMD (talk) 22:10, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you're saying that recognition of Taiwan doesn't matter? Game2Winter (talk) 22:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan isn't partially recognised in the same way, it's a rump state that emerged from a civil war rather than a breakaway state. It doesn't really have recognition as its own separate independent state in the way Kosovo does. CMD (talk) 23:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So according to you, Taiwan has even less recognition than Kosovo. If that is the case, why should Taiwan's description be "a country" with no addons, while Kosovo's description has "partial diplomatic recognition" in it? Game2Winter (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo is simple to describe. Taiwan has the largest paragraph of its lead as an add-on, plus an entire body section devoted to the subject. CMD (talk) 01:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about biased, but I also don't think we need to be saying it in the lead... Looking though the talk history I can't actually find a consensus for that specific language (if someone can that would be helpful, I assume its in there somewhere). Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There has been a bit of discussion in and among the window-dressing discussions of country vs state. Regarding history, the language has been in the lead in some form since the declaration of statehood (early eg.), and continues to form a notable aspect of the country's international personality. CMD (talk) 07:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We do not generally note notable aspects of a country's international personality in the first sentence of the lead. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're not generally in question. CMD (talk) 06:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't in question here, or at least not that I am aware of. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The amount of formal recognition is not a judgement of how a country is more eligible to be defined as an independent state, which is a unilateral political act by a government based on their political interests for the admission to a country’s statehood. That depends on the hard power of a nation to project its influence in the global arena against what they deemed a subject as “disputed regimes”.

In this case, Kosovo receives more formal recognition, not because they are more important or legitimate than one another, which is only because Serbia as a small power does not have the same influence to prevent other states from establishing international relations with Kosovo as Chinese government did, and it's proved that the NATO nations have the full capability to intervene since the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. If Serbia is a nuclear country or a permanent member in the UN systems, or one of five most ranked economic or military powers of the world, then we can compare them in an equal basis. Sheherherhers (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]