Talk:Michael Eisen

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This person will be a presenter at Wikimania, and as such we can expect this article to get more traffic than usual. Now would be a great time improve if possible, and make sure everything is accurate! Brassratgirl 20:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on itSgerbic (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a couple of days with this. I'm going to not look into the science references as much right now, but focus on the new information coming out. If you know of something please place it here I'll check back before I make my rewrite live. But I'm going to edit this in my user space and will end up reverting anything you add to the current article. So please let me see what I can come up with. I promise I'll be quick.Sgerbic (talk) 22:23, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay this only took me a day to rewrite. So many fresh new articles made it much easier. As I'm not a scientist I think the research and the Open Access areas need to be fleshed out. The citations already exist on the page, but much of it is over my head. Also a more professional main photo needs to be found. I did not research any of the journal articles, Citations 2 - 14 (with the exception of 7,8,9). I added citations 7,8,9 and 15-23. He is a really interesting character and I hope other editors can expand on what I've done. Enjoy!Sgerbic (talk) 07:11, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

During the rewrite process I came across an article that interviewed Michael Eisen who talked about his Father's death. I thought about it and decided that I would use the article as a citation to prove his father's first name. I felt at the time that the death which was a suicide under a stressful NIH investigation had nothing to do with the target of *this* Wikipedia page. I didn't want to be insensitive or look like I was covering up something or who knows what motives someone would assign to my not mentioning this information. http://www.motherjones.com/media/2013/09/michael-eisen-plos-open-access-aaron-swartz After making this decision I noticed on Eisen's Twitter feed that he reposts a Washington Post article from 1987 and has said on Twitter that this death really impacted him personally as well as his career. So now I'm going to give this more thought and hope to hear from others as well as to if it is important to be used on the son's page or not? Possibly the father should have a WP page? Thoughts? https://twitter.com/mbeisen/status/828973915116482561 and https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/14/nih-scientist-a-suicide-amid-probe-of-paper/e0cd2abe-4763-40f4-b839-8e86df4b2cbd/ BTW I have included the Washington Post article already in the WP page as a reference to what his mother's name is.Sgerbic (talk) 21:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you can explain how the suicide impacted his career go for it. Sounds like Dad deserves a page too. Boneso (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

By what standard is this Article deemed noteworthy? Is running for US Senate all it takes? Not challenging this Article. There is another candidate who also ran for the same seat who does not have a Wikipedia Article, and I'm wondering if running for US Senate is the sole criteria.2605:6000:6947:AB00:403D:E24D:E465:4A0 (talk) 11:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In academia, alma mater is more often understood as where someone got their PhD. It is not unusual to mention both, but for sure the right hand side block should include his PhD affiliation.

So Eisen is a public figure, and that can lead to intense scrutiny. An example being #wormageddon (see: https://www.thedailybeast.com/worm-joke-causes-science-twitter-flame-war-over-accusations-of-sexism-and-racism). Eisen's public stance on "ending gatekeeping" when eLife announced its new model also instigated a lot of backlash, as eLife editors still would desk reject the majority of articles.

This has come to a head with the Hamas-Israel war. Apparently Eisen tweeted a pretty inflammatory anti-Israel take, and in the same tweet linked to this The Onion article: https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-using-last-words-to-con-1850925657

Eisen has created a huge backlash that has resulted in editors resigning from eLife over his comments, and he has now deleted his twitter account. (separate Q: is deleting an account reversible?)

See: https://twitter.com/inna_slutsky/status/1713110329587069070

I don't know the full context, as his account and the original tweet are deleted. But this situation likely deserves to be followed on this Talk page (and perhaps earning entry in the main article), as it is not only about Eisen's personal views, but seems to be having a knock-on effect on eLife's credibility given Eisen is EiC. See (not an isolated eLife resignation/boycott): https://twitter.com/OdedRechavi/status/1713123060474138646

Again, my goal here is to bring this to the attention of the page for monitoring. Anything added right now would likely be reactionary, and as this is an article on a living person, the appropriate course of action is probably to wait and let the situation develop further before any formal text is written in.

-- Crawdaunt (talk) 03:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: here is a screenshot of Eisen's original tweet (the quote tweet) that instigated all this, and his initial response.

https://twitter.com/RPrasad12/status/1713239364296388749 Crawdaunt (talk) 03:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]