Talk:Muslim conquest of Armenia
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On 21 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be Arab conquest of Armenia. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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Requested move 21 March 2023
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I am closing this discussion as part of a group, consisting of
Talk:Muslim conquest of Egypt#Requested move 17 March 2023, Talk:Muslim conquest of Armenia#Requested move 21 March 2023, and Talk:Muslim conquest of Persia#Requested move 17 March 2023
, as the moves are comparable, the arguments for each are comparable, and many editors in those discussions referenced their positions in other discussions.
With the exception of
WP:COMMONNAME
. Overall, neither position was sufficiently strong to establish a consensus given the comparable levels of support.
Muslim conquest of Egypt
differs from these in that the arguments for it were seen as stronger by the participants, as evidenced by P Aculeius's neutral position on that move compared to their opposition on others.
If editors wish to explore these moves in the future they are encouraged to open a multi-move request, which will address some of the raised WP:CONSISTENCY concerns. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 22:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
Iskandar323 (talk) 16:36, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Oppose. This is part of Muslim conquests. Please don't start RMs without notifying discussants elsewhere on already open ongoing RMs on "Muslim conquests" in general, Spain, Persia, Egypt, etc., forcing them to scramble and repeat their replies across pages. Walrasiad (talk) 01:04, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. There is nothing wrong with the existing title, and the mass nomination for renaming of all articles whose titles describe "Muslim conquests" to "Arab conquests" in spite of the relative accuracy of the former and inconsistent applicability of the latter undermines the contention that the move is consistent with NPoV. These articles all concern the spread of Islam, not Arab culture generally, and the use of the phrase "Muslim conquest" does not indicate anti-Muslim bias. The fact that the article was created at a different title does not prove that the current title is inappropriate, nor does the fact that the title was changed without discussion: since it has evidently remained at this title for five years since the move, there clearly was no consensus to move it back, and I see no compelling reason to do it now. P Aculeius (talk) 03:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.