Talk:Neuilly-sur-Seine

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Bourgeois

Bourgeois does not mean "upscale." It is French for "middle-class." C'mon, folks, this is basic French 101. I recommend changing the wording of the second ¶ to something more like, "...a compendium of upscale "bourgeois" neighbourhoods..." with "bourgeois" remaining linked to the Wikipedia page for that word (albeit a page concentrating on the prejudicial marxist use of the term as an epithet). Dick Kimball (talk) 14:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Words like "bourgeois" and "upscale" are painfully subjective and shouldn't be used in an encyclopedic description of a geographic place. As well, the grammatically-incorrect "Neuilly is often considered as the richest city in France" is crying out for a reference. I'd be happy to do a re-write, and welcome discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.128.184 (talk) 23:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Neuilly (disambiguation)

Currently,

Neuilly
is a disambiguation page. But Neuilly-sur-Seine is by far the most common meaning for Neuilly. As this article says:

On 2 May 1897, the commune name officially became Neuilly-sur-Seine (meaning "Neuilly upon Seine"), in order to distinguish it from the many communes of France also called Neuilly. Most people, however, continue to refer to Neuilly-sur-Seine as simply "Neuilly"

I propose to move

Neuilly in fact mean to refer to Neuilly-sur-Seine
. Fuller justification at
Talk:Neuilly. Comments? --Macrakis (talk) 01:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

WW I & II

There is nothing in the article about the World Wars. In the novel, The Lost Girls of Paris (P. 135), one of the characters states that all the inhabitants were killed, but the insecure site http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres.html does not list the town. Can any-one provide material on what happened in this town during wartime? Kdammers (talk) 16:22, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked a the French Wikipedia article. It has content. Maybe someone more fluent in French could use those sources to add content here. Kdammers (talk) 16:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
According to the French Wikipedia page, about 200 Jews were deported and murdered, and about 50 members of the Resistance were either killed in battle, executed, or deported. Terrible events, but there's no evidence of mass murders of the non-Jewish civilian population. Given that the population of Neuilly was about 60,000, that would have been by far the biggest massacre in France, and would be well documented. --Macrakis (talk) 22:22, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Requested move 17 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 16:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– Neuilly-sur-Seine is the common name of this city, and by far the most common meaning of "Neuilly". Here is some evidence:

I brought this up for discussion on the Talk pages of

Neuilly two weeks ago and have had no reactions. Macrakis (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

It is highly unlikely that anyone is actually looking for Neuilly, Eure, a tiny village (pop. 140). It is more likely that users are clicking on it because it is the first in the list and its full name is Neuilly, unmodified.
I'm OK with the redirect solution, though. --Macrakis (talk) 17:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I still wouldn't move it until we see March statistics, because none of this is actually indicative of the existence of a primary topic as
WP:PTOPIC defines it. --Joy (talk) 20:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
We have a standard way of dealing with that: {{About|Neuilly-sur-Seine}} → This article is about Neuilly-sur-Seine. For other uses, see Neuilly (disambiguation). --Macrakis (talk) 14:06, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Post-RM comment

Per the above discussion, I've looked up WikiNav data for March. There were 40 outgoing clicks from the

Neuilly page, and all 40 went to Neuilly-sur-Seine. I'm therefore proceeding with the primary redirect. 162 etc. (talk) 21:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2021-11&end=2023-11&pages=Neuilly-sur-Seine%7CNeuilly%7CNeuilly_(disambiguation) at logarithmic scale doesn't indicate that the primary redirect is warranted, as the traffic to the hatnote does not correlate well to the traffic to the assumed primary topic, and consistently hovers around a significant minority of the traffic to the redirect, so I'll revert that change. --Joy (talk) 18:51, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See related RM at
Talk:Neuilly. 162 etc. (talk) 21:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
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