Talk:Parkdean Resorts

3. I would like to request that you remove the "advert" template at the top of the article. That template never belonged on this article in the first place. This article was created (apparently at AFC [3]) in March 2016 [4], but the template is dated August 2012 (!). The person that created this new article seems to have copied the template from the top of the Parkdean Holidays wiki article at that time: [5]. (I have no idea why they kept the template, except that they copied the infobox and maybe the advert tag got copied along with it.) In any case, when the article was moved from AFC to article-space in October 2016, the mover did not remove the template, even though there is nothing promotional in the draft [6]. Anyway, regardless of the bizarre circumstances of its origin, I think we can agree that there is nothing promotional in the article at present.

OK, thanks very much again, Z1720! Let me know if any issues .... -- TerryBG (talk) 12:22, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TerryBG Here are my thoughts below:

2. This section sounded very promotional to me, so I did not include it. However, it can be reworded if we can get the most current stats (from before COVID) and focus on better language. Here is how I would format the sentence, "Parkdean Resorts operates 73 holiday parks in the UK, with XX million people visiting their parks in 20XX." The rest of the information is extra detail that is not needed.

3. I took another look at the article, did some copyediting, and removed the banner at the top.

Let me know if you have any other concerns or questions. Z1720 (talk) 02:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks very much Z1720. I will see if I can find any stats online of more current but pre-COVID numbers. I note that as of February 2020 the total number of parks is now 67 [7] (as noted in the lead and infobox of this wiki article), but that article doesn't list other stats. I'll see if any more info is out there. Thanks again for all of your help. TerryBG (talk) 05:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Z1720, I finally found the pre-covid operational stats that you requested several months ago (your comment number 2 above). Could you please add the information (below) to the article (presumably at the bottom of the "Merge" section, unless you want to create an "Operations" section of only one sentence)? If so, thanks very much and I appreciate your conscientious advice. TerryBG (talk) 23:26, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As of early 2020, Parkdean Resorts had 20,000 owners of on-site private caravans and lodges, and in its previous peak season of August 2019 had 120,000 people staying at its parks attended by 8,000 employees.[1]

PS: Also, the employee number in the infobox should also be changed accordingly (from "6,000" to "8,000"), so I have now given that reference a "ref name" so that it can be used for the infobox as well. Could you implement that change? Thanks! TerryBG (talk) 23:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TerryBG I am not completing edit requests at this time. Please open a new edit request below so that another editor can continue this request. Z1720 (talk) 19:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

As noted at the very bottom of the "Edit request part 2" subsection above, the article needs pre-covid operational stats. Here they are, cited by The Times:

As of early 2020, Parkdean Resorts had 20,000 owners of on-site private caravans and lodges, and in its previous peak season of August 2019 had 120,000 people staying at its parks attended by 8,000 employees.[1]

Could someone please add this information to the bottom of the "Merge" section?

Also, per the same citation, the number of employees listed in the infobox needs to be updated from "Over 6,000 in peak season" (which was cited to a 2016 source) to "8,000 in peak season^[1]".

Thank you very much for your time. TerryBG (talk) 21:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done PK650 (talk) 00:21, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

declared paid editor DGG ( talk ) 04:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hi, I work for Parkdean Resorts. I have read the Wikipedia Guideline recommending I don't edit the Parkdean Resorts page myself since I would be seen as biased, so I am requesting here on talk page instead.

My Request: The section for the pandemic response has several sentences that were added about the travel industry at large, and Parkdean is not mentioned in those articles. Can the articles and two sentences they support be removed?

but remained open for people to stay, despite many other parks in the industry closing.[1][2][3]

Welsh Health Minister Vaughan Gething objected to the parks staying open in Wales, saying "There's clear advice for people to avoid unnecessary travel and going to your caravan on the weekend doesn't strike me as necessary travel.".[4] 

My Reason for the Request: Looking on other resort pages of similar companies, it seems typical to only include details about that specific company and not have paragraphs about the industry at large. Another good reason to delete these sentences is that they are very confusing because they don't follow a chronology: for example, Parkdean closed most facilities on the day that the "South Wales Argus" article was published and then Parkdean closed the parks as well three days later. So ending that paragraph with "but remained open for people to stay" when referring to an unknown time period is jarring to me, and I also assume it is jarring for readers of Wikipedia for the same reason.

 Done I agree, and would add that the volatile early days of the pandemic saw both businesses and governments struggle to manage its consequences. Noting every single policy change without proper context or due weight is hardly encyclopedic, not to mention these sources don't even mention the subject. PK650 (talk) 00:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the time! I appreciate you thinking it over and finding it worth applying. Jessica.N.Park (talk) 23:35, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello, this is Jessica. This is my second request to the Parkdean Resorts Wikipedia page, since I work for Parkdean and have a conflict of interest. User:PK650 kindly considered the last request, and is obviously very welcome to do so with this one as well. This request is just for cleaning up that same paragraph (about the COVID-19 response at Parkdean) so it makes more sense and reads more easily. Largely, I was hoping it could be slightly re-organized chronologically and I was also wondering if some phrases could be moved and a reference copied and repeated so that some sentences can be woven together more naturally. I put some example HTML below from the page to just show what I had in mind instead of trying to hard to explain. I made three changes from what is on the Wikipedia page at this moment.

My requested changes to consider to the section:

1) I cut the sentences apart to make it easier to see what is happening (could they be recombined into one paragraph after? there isn't much).

2) I moved the order, like moving the first sentence to the last sentence, mostly, and also slightly changing the order of the first three sentences (I had to copy a reference to do that, I don't believe that breaks any guidelines however)

2) I very slightly altered the wording on some of them, so they made more sense. For example, the placement of "government": it seems when the Government order took place has been misconstrued in the current telling, since the full government shutdown was in place on March 23, 2020 when Parkdean also entirely closed its parks. Is it possible to remove the government order phrase from the current section, and instead add it in to sentence about March 23, with that sentence also moved to the end of the paragraph so it is less confusing?

==COVID-19 pandemic response==

During the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, Parkdean was criticized for not shutting down its travel parks during a time when the government was advising citizens to avoid non-essential travel.[1]

On 20 March 2020, Parkdean Resorts shut down all bars, restaurants, and complexes in its parks, but did not close the parks.[2]

At the time, Parkdean stated to the press that the caravans are standalone and separate from each other with 70% privately owned, and there was "no instruction or logic to evicting people who are enjoying the fresh air in their own space".[3] 

People in multiple locations were concerned that the parks staying open would place pressure on sparsely populated areas that were already struggling to obtain food supplies[4] and that it would further spread the virus from metropolitan areas to remote rural areas that were poorly equipped to deal with it.[5]

There was concern that an influx of seasonal population to sparsely populated rural holiday locations had the potential to cripple their local health services at a time when they were very vulnerable.[6]

On 23 March 2020, when the UK government announced a nationwide lockdown, the company closed its parks to the public, and announced plans to re-open to the public on 6 July.[7]

 Done PK650 (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello, I had 3 small requests about the history section, and then a stat to update.

1) Could the Covid-19 section be deprecated and made into a subsection of the history section? I'm ambivalent if dates are added (2020-2022).

2) Could the "merge" section be renamed "merger?"

3) Add this, or a shorter version?

Adding to £70 million invested in 2021, in April 2022 Parkdean announced another £70 million investment into its parks, for a total of a £140 million. The investment plan was expanded to include "850 new caravans and lodges, new developments at 16 parks and refreshed and upgraded chalets and lodges."[1]

4) Also, could the number of parks be updated? The company's official website lists 66, right now (there are three places it is at a different # on the Wiki page: the infobox, the lead, and the holiday parks section).

There are currently 66 Parkdean Resorts located across the United Kingdom.[2]

Thank you! Jessica.N.Park (talk) 00:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC) Jessica.N.Park (talk) 00:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I know the request backlog is in constant flux on eta, but since it's been a month now, just wanted to check and see if any editors familiar with the page like @PK650: might be interested in checking the requests over? Jessica.N.Park (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Hi. I've taken care of most here, using my own language for the investment bit, and rearranging the history section to reflect WP:CRIT. PK650 (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In 2022, Parkdean Resorts became the sponsorship for afternoon shows on Nicktoons. 2A02:C7E:4F1D:4000:35C5:4480:CD99:FBF2 (talk) 09:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented.

Hello, I was hoping to update the page with basic facts from the last year, and also streamline a messy section. They add a bit to the requests that @PK650: was kind enough to consider last July. Thank you! Jessica.N.Park (talk) 00:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1) Could the line "There was concern that an influx of seasonal population to sparsely populated rural holiday locations had the potential to cripple their local health services at a time when they were very vulnerable" be removed for basically just repeating the sentence before it? Also, the two sentences before that are awkwardly conjoined, with an extra "and" at said conjunction. Could the "and" be replaced with "claimed"? Thanks!

3) Could employee # be updated in the infobox?

9,000 in peak season<ref>https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/health/coronavirus-heysham-caravan-park-donates-food-to-morecambe-bay-foodbank-2518660</ref>

2) Could this sentence be expanded with content mined from the same source?

In 2021 and 2022, Parkdean announced a number of park investments, for a total of £140 million. The investment plan included "850 new caravans and lodges," and developments at 16 parks.

Could it be expanded to:

Adding to the £70 million invested in 2021, in April 2022 Parkdean announced another £70 million investment into its parks, for a total of a £140 million. The investment plan was expanded to include "850 new caravans and lodges," and developments at 16 parks and "refreshed and upgraded chalets and lodges." At the time, Parkdean said advance bookings were at "record levels" and that it was recruiting over 7,000 seasonal workers.

3) Could the sentence above in request 2 be expanded into a section?

===Recent developments===
 In the spring of 2021, Parkdean announced it would hire 6,500 seasonal staff for the summer,<ref name="Recruiting: Coreena"/> including 375 trainees from the UK government's Kickstart program for young workers.<ref name="Business Live 7000 workers"/> 550 more trainees were set to be recruited from the Kickstart program in 2022.<ref>https://www.business-live.co.uk/retail-consumer/parkdean-resorts-creates-550-new-22852574</ref> In April 2021, Parkdean confirmed plans to invest £70 million in its UK parks. Among the planned allocations were £22.5 million on 700 new caravans and lodges, £13 million on maintenance, and £12 million on "technology projects"<ref name="Recruiting: Coreena"/> such as increased wireless connectivity.<ref name="Wales Online Trecco"/> The 2021 investment plan also included three new "Parks of the Future" locations.<ref name="Recruiting: Coreena"/> In early 2022, 13 different parks underwent some form of development,<ref name="Wales Online Trecco">https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/trecco-bay-owners-parkdean-resorts-23608143</ref> with Parkdean continuing to partner with brands such as [[Bear_Grylls|Bear Grylls’ Survival Academy]], ''[[Milkshake!]]]] and [[Nickelodeon]].<ref name="Business Live 7000 workers"/>

 With its head office in Gosforth, Newcastle,<ref name="Business Live 7000 workers"/> Parkdean has 66 parks<ref name="Main website"/> and a reported 3 million visitors per year.<ref name="Yorkshire Post jobs Boost"/> The company's holiday resorts include caravans, lodges, cabins, glamping and camping over 3,500 acres of land<ref name="Recruiting: Coreena">https://www.business-live.co.uk/retail-consumer/parkdean-resorts-recruiting-6500-seasonal-20520387</ref> and 31,000 camping pitches.<ref name="Yorkshire Post jobs Boost">https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/jobs-boost-for-leeds-as-parkdean-resorts-expands-its-digital-and-it-team-3574129</ref> Adding to the £70 million invested in 2021, in April 2022 Parkdean announced another £70 million investment into its parks, for a total of a £140 million. The investment plan was expanded to include "850 new caravans and lodges," and developments at 16 parks and "refreshed and upgraded chalets and lodges." At the time, Parkdean said advance bookings were at "record levels" and that it was recruiting over 7,000 seasonal workers.<ref name="Business Live 7000 workers">{{cite web |last1=Ford |first1=Coreena |title=Parkdean Resorts to invest £140m across UK parks ahead of record holiday season |url=https://www.business-live.co.uk/retail-consumer/parkdean-resorts-invest-140m-across-23601427 |website=BusinessLive Chronicle and Journal |access-date=31 August 2022}}</ref>

4) Could this sentence be added as the fourth sentence in the lead?

Parkdean invested £140 million into its parks in the UK in 2021 and 2022.<ref name="Business Live 7000 workers"/>

5) Could this be added as a source for the first sentence in the lead?

<ref name="merges with rival"/>

6) Can this be added to the sentence in history about the CEO?

and that year also became chairman of the industry group UKHospitality.<ref>https://www.parkdeanresorts.co.uk/corporate/about-us/our-leadership/steve-richards/</ref>

 Partly done: Partly implemented; the lengthy request was heavily trimmed, and #6 rejected due to relevance. PK650 (talk) 04:22, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]