Talk:Rupert Giles

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This addition:

He also seems to be a fan of The Velvet Underground, Cream, and the Bay City Rollers.

was reverted with the comment:

Please at least cite an episode that supports this conclusion.

Easy (not that I'd include any of this in the article). He mentions the Bay City Rollers in "

Thanks! Do you know how to add those as references to the text? If so, feel free to add back in with those as refs. If not, give me a shout and I'll help. Jclemens (talk) 07:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "Bay City Rollers" remark was a joke and taken as such by Buffy (her reply was "I didn't hear that!") Britmax (talk) 09:06, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have any information on whether the character was influenced by the comics character John Constantine, or if Giles influenced that character? There are just too many little coincidences to someone like me. They're both Englishmen with reasonable skill in magic (Constantine is much more powerful) but when looking at character histories they have a lot of similarities. Giles was shown to have played guitar in his youth and Constantine was in various punk bands. And more notably both were involved in a botched summoning of a demon in their youth that got friend(s) killed and later came to haunt them in a present day storyline. I'm more inclined to believe that Whedon might have used a little bit of that background when creating his own character but some sort of documentation would be nice. 99.240.146.252 (talk) 01:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't any sort of documentation for that because it's untrue. Giles may share certain points in common with John Constantine, but they're remarkably different characters. The "formerly rebellious but currently stuffy archetype" is seen all the time. Giles certainly did not influence JC, seeing as how the points you mentioned about him were established more than a decade before Buffy the Vampire Slayer came on the air. Was Whedon drawing on Moore? Probably a little, but certainly not enough to be worth throwing on the wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.255.1.245 (talk) 12:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yowza. Bit late to this party, but that bizarrely defensive and poorly researched response wasn't very helpful. Delano established all of those things about Constantine around the time you're suggesting Whedon established them about Giles (Hellblazer 11, "Newcastle" came out in Nov. '88, and established the botched-teenage-demon-summoning-that-caused-pain-to-friends thing)...which is more indicative of correlation than not. Anyway, Constantine is not stuffy (now, and wasn't then). Of course, it's all moot if no one has ever directly mentioned it (be it Whedon or Batali/des Hotel who wrote the episode that most clearly drews some parallels, coincidental or otherwise). They are pretty amazing coincidences if they are coincidence, though, so I wouldn't be surprised to find someone mentioned it somewhere. But I haven't seen it.FangsFirst (talk) 23:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]