Talk:Seventh generation of video game consoles/Archive 2

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6th generation was 128 bits is 7th generation 256 bits?? this article is missing what the prior articles discus the bits. damn it the bits!!! —The preceding

It's missing because it's not relevant, and because it's just wrong. The 6th generation was not 128bits, and the 7th generation is certainly not 256 bits. It would be more correct to say that the 6th was 32bit and the 7th is 64bit anyhow. vortex 02:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

PS3 : 64-bit PPC engine; 7 X 128Bit SPE; 256Bit GPU XBOX360 : 64-bit PPC engine; 512Bit GPU Wii : UNKNOWN most likely CPU: 32- bit ; 256 bit GPU

NB: increase in process word length above around 24-bit is not as important to system speed (very few CPU ops will use greater than 32-bit length), the important factors are CACHE-SIZE, CLOCK-SPEED, BUS-SPEED, ARCHITECTURE (all PPC in this case), CORE QUANTITY (Wii: 1 PS3: 1 + 7 SPEs (more like pixel pipes in a graphics card) 360: 3 ) high word length does make a difference in a GPU (more colours more complex shapes, draw distance anywhere where the ops require large maths, over 256-bit currently is not implemented often but for future sprawling worlds it will be a large factor 81.101.118.64 18:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Somebody have put in false data to the "sales" table (stating that 100000 million Wii units were sold while only one PS3 was sold) Aceman2000 05:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

While I typed this, the table was repaired :D Aceman2000 05:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

People keep changing the sales chart info, visiting this page is confusing me. I went to this site provided by the link http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php?topic=1 and it states that the saled have gone up. Which is true? The original info or this one? CanCanDuo 15:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Those sales figures from vgcharts.org are correct. someone should change the sales info to what is shown in these charts.

No, they shouldn't. VGCharts is not a reputable source. - A Link to the Past (talk) 08:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

According to nextgenwars.com, there's roughly 1.8 million Wiis sold worldwide (Give or take due to fluctuations and computing errors), much more than the one million Wikipedia states.

72.138.179.83 18:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC) 24/12/06 Joe S.

nexgenwars.com is not a reliable source for us. We need a reliable source, and the one we have states one million. -- ReyBrujo 18:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Hyperscan.jpg has been deleted. Don't add it to the gallery section. There are three options: upload a new image, leave it out of the gallery, or convert it to prose. I chose the third option. -- ReyBrujo 17:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Get the hypercrap off of here. We might as well add the V-Smile and Leapster, as well as 3rd generation Tamogotchis

the "hypercrap" as you call it meats all the criteria of a videogame system. it has controlers, conects to a tv, and has games made specificaly for it. there is no logical reason to discard it. if we were to follow your argument than we would have to discard the super NES from the fourth generation as it had less than half the power of its weakest competator.

J.L.Main

02:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you KIDDING! THis kyparscan is a TOY! Its had, what, 3 games made for it, and none being devoloped. Not to mention it is totally craptastic. You know what, the V-Smile meets ALL the criteria, and so does the Leapster. OMG, So does the iPod?!?!?!?!!!!

Hypercrap isnt selling anyways. Its dumb, and its a TOY! a TOY! Would you call the craptistic piece of shiz a TOY or a VIDEO GAME.

Hyperscan sucks BALLS as big as APPLES. No, wait. WATERMELONS!!!!

Hypercrap SUCKS, its NOT a true VIDEO GAME, tis made by some really really game-sucky toy company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gerbilfyed4 19:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I've never seen an argument so comprehensively riveting and convincing before. --140.159.2.31 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

The Hyperscan and Leapster are cheesy consoles you would

Cracker Jacks. The Wii, 360, and PS3 are not. It is not necessary to remove the "hypercrap", but I believe it is necessary to seperate them.--Can Not

21:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Are they[1] reliable? CeeWhy2 00:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

"Despite this, the data on VG Charts is unofficial and in some cases incomplete." I read their site and looked them up on other sites. from what i see there data shouldn't be much greater than the actual amounts but my be significantly less. either way it looks to be closer than what we have now. i would use them.

J.L.Main

02:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

VGCharts.org is considered not reliable. See discussions at

Talk:List of best-selling computer and video games. -- ReyBrujo

04:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the numbers of how much consoles were sold come from here?66.72.98.179 03:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

No, we prefer using more better and more reliable sources. -- ReyBrujo 21:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Nextgenwars is not a reliable source, it says on the site that the numbers are only estimates 220.253.93.163 04:05, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

After that it says that the numbers are constantly monitored and updated. Do you think they're getting the numbers out of the air or something? Doubt it. By the way, the PS3 links for sales has nothing to say about the number of consoles that have been sold through April 2007. One was written about December 2006 sales and the other appears to talk about Japanese sales alone. On nexgenwars.com they have a nice explanation of what numbers they use to calculate their scores as well.

I think that the comments about PS3, Xbox360, and Wii that were written before November 17th, should be archived because it's tempting to add a comment to them, besides, that series of comments was from the speculation phase of the 7th-generation of consoles. Now, everybody knows the true information about all the consoles, so the articles about people's thoughts prior to the release of PS3 are useless and might give an unknowing person false information. Also, archiving old comments would make the discussion page less confusing and more organized.--LF2 00:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

3.2 GHZ + 7 3.2 GHZ SPES? I've heard it's "just" 3.2 GHZ + 7 32 mhz SPES, allthough this is quite alot of power too.

It's 1x 3.2GHz PPE + 7x 3.2GHZ SPEs.--LF2 00:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there ever going to be an accurate source that can tell us what has shipped to stores vs what has actually sold? I'm looking at the sales chart on this page and it just lists N/A for one category and an exact figure for the others on all three systems.

Wouldn't it make more sense just to use the sourceable figures and drop one of the columns? If really necessary, we could put a sentence in explaining that some companies count shipped and some count sold... if we can find a good source for it.

I propose just dropping the "Units Shipped" column from the chart and listing all three consoles claims in the same category. --Measure 05:59, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Why does the nintendo wii have the prices for diferent regions, yet the others dont??? Surely in a table like this the information provided for each should be the same. Mattyatty 10:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I added the Wii GBP prices a while back, I'm sure I added more than the price of the RGB cable and console though... I notice there are PS3 prices in GBP also now, and Euros have been added to Wii. Perhaps someone would like to add to these prices, I admit that whilst they are correct, I didn't do a thorough job and add every available accessory price.

Also, seeing as Sony and Nintendo are both Japanese companies, wouldn't Yen be the most logical "primary" currency for this table? —The preceding

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