Talk:Sultan Al Jaber

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Edit requests to Intro and ADNOC sections

Hi. I am CB and I have a few edits I would like to have implemented for the Introduction and the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company sections.

References

  1. ^ "Minister of Industry and Advanced Technology and UAE Special Envoy for Climate Change". Atlantic Council.
  2. ^ "United Arab Emirates:The Cabinet". uaecabinet.ae.
  3. ^ "Smart Growth". The Business Year. Retrieved 2020-04-04.
  4. ^ Reuters Staff (2020-11-29). "CORRECTED-UAE cabinet approves new cybersecurity body, climate change envoy". Reuters. Retrieved 2020-12-08. {{cite news}}: |author= has generic name (help)
  5. ^ Barbuscia, Davide (3 October 2021). "ADNOC Drilling jumps over 30% in debut for Abu Dhabi's largest IPO".
  6. ^ Ugal, Nishant (28 September 2021). "Adnoc raises $1.1 billion through IPO of its drilling subsidiary". Upstream.
  7. ^ a b Reed, Stanley (30 October 2021). "A Major Persian Gulf Oil Producer Tries to Burnish Its Climate Credentials". New York Times.
  8. ^ Wang, Herman (26 October 2021). "ADNOC aims to decarbonize operations with solar, nuclear power supply deal". S&P Global.
  9. ^ Pike, Christopher (22 December 2021). "UAE's ADNOC, TAQA in $3.6 bln project to slash offshore carbon footprint". Reuters.
  10. ^ Pike, Christopher (1 December 2021). "UAE's ADNOC to invest $127 bln in 2022-26 as oil, gas reserves rise". Reuters.

Thank you for your help, CB at ADNOC (talk) 08:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @

WP:DUE that manages the assignment of due and undue weight in an article and I think the overall position as it stands is fair (to the elements you have requested changes, at least, haven't had time to look at the rest). Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

Closing this request since it has been answered above. Z1720 (talk) 23:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Guardian, 5/40/23, the editor who wrote the above edit request is a paid employee of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company attempting to greenwash the subject of this article. TheScotch (talk) 05:56, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/30/cop28-president-team-accused-of-wikipedia-greenwashing-sultan-al-jaber
2A02:1210:2642:4A00:3C1F:D51A:2832:DAE4 (talk) 06:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change and honors sections

Hi. I am requesting a few straightforward edits to update the article, as follows:

  • At the end of the "Energy and climate change" section, please add the following information:
In 2009, as CEO of Masdar, he helped bring the headquarters of the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) to the UAE.[1]
Al Jaber has advocated for a global approach to addressing climate change at international forums such as the Munich Security Conference, where he spoke in February 2022,[2] stressing that responding to climate change can lead to diversified economic growth.[3] He has also emphasized the key role national hydrocarbon producers should play in the energy transition, arguing that the least carbon-intensive barrels will be required for the foreseeable future.[4]
During Al Jaber's tenure as special climate envoy to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNCCC) for the UAE, the organization chose the UAE as the host for the 28th session of the Conference of the Parties (COP28) in 2023.[5]
  • Please add the following sentence to the end of the "Honors" section:
In 2021, Al Jaber was named ‘Energy Executive of the Year’ by Energy Intelligence.[6]

References

  1. ^ "Minister of Industry and Advanced Technology and UAE Special Envoy for Climate Change". Atlantic Council.
  2. ^ "UAE believes progressive climate action is a key enabler of stability, economic prosperity: Sultan Al Jaber". Gulf News. 19 February 2022.
  3. ^ Gnana, Jennifer (20 April 2021). "Progressive climate action a powerful economic driver, UAE climate envoy says". The National.
  4. ^ Jones, Rory (28 June 2022). "The Hottest Investor in Renewables Is a Big Oil Producer". The Wall Street Journal.
  5. ^ McElroy, Damien (11 November 2021). "UAE to host Cop28 in 2023 after UN approval in Glasgow". The National.
  6. ^ Brenner, Noah (6 April 2021). "Adnoc's al-Jaber Named Energy Executive of the Year". Energy Intelligence.

I am also pinging Alexandermcnabb who has helped with this page in the past. Thanks so much. CB at ADNOC (talk) 08:47, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CB at ADNOC Edits made as requested (after review). Requestor is cautioned against making direct edits to teh article. Cheers. Duke Gilmore (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@CB at ADNOC requested 'arguing that the least carbon-intensive barrels will be required for the foreseeable future' be added and Duke Gilmore added it. Whether @CB at ADNOC is an impartial source or not (see comment by TheScotch (talk)), as it stands, it doesn't make sense. The source cited is the Wall Street Journal, which is behind a paywall. Possibly 'the least carbon-intensive oil will be required for the foreseeable future' might express the sense of what is written in the WSJ article - could someone check and edit this statement? Robert P Connolly (talk) 13:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Masdar section

Hi there, my name is Zkhan2023. I'd like to propose the following changes to the article:

  • Please move the Masdar subsection to the top of the Business career section, to ensure that the section reads in proper chronological order.
  • Update the Masdar section to the version below, which better articulates his roles and activities at the company, complete with sources:
Al Jaber was the founding CEO of Masdar, beginning in 2006, and was appointed the chairman in March 2014.[1] Under his leadership Masdar expanded its investment in renewable energy[2] and as of the end of 2022 was invested in 40 countries.[3] Under his chairmanship Masdar underwent a restructuring that brought in TAQA, ADNOC and Mubadala as shareholders in 2022.[4] Al Jaber's goal is to expand Masdar's clean energy capacity to 100GW by 2030, making it the second largest renewable investor in the world.[5]

References

  1. ^ "New chairman, CEO for Masdar". www.tradearabia.com. 2014-03-20. Retrieved 2020-04-04.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ Jones, Rory (28 June 2022). "The Hottest Investor in Renewables Is a Big Oil Producer". WSJ.
  3. ^ Reed, Ed (18 January 2022). "Masdar sets 100 GW renewable energy target for 2030". Energy Voice.
  4. ^ "UAE's ADNOC, Taqa and Mubadala complete Masdar stake deal". Reuters. 8 December 2022.
  5. ^ "Why the Gulf's oil powers are betting on clean energy". The Economist. 19 December 2022.

Pinging Alexandermcnabb who appears to have been helpful with previous edit requests on this page. Thanks for your time, Zkhan2023 (talk) 08:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Implemented in the article with references. Feel free to reopen this discussion if there are any issues. Thanks, Zkhan2023 (talk) 05:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the spirit of reflexivity...

Here's today's Guardian article, describing the attempts of the subject of this article to improve his depiction here:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/30/cop28-president-team-accused-of-wikipedia-greenwashing-sultan-al-jaber

Cop28 president’s team accused of Wikipedia ‘greenwashing’

Exclusive: UAE using site to ‘control narrative’ amid criticism of oil boss leading climate summit, say critics

2A02:1210:2642:4A00:3C1F:D51A:2832:DAE4 (talk) 06:05, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a more formal formatting of that reference:
Stockton, Ben (30 May 2023). "Cop28 president's team accused of Wikipedia 'greenwashing'". The Guardian. Exclusive: UAE using site to 'control narrative' amid criticism of oil boss leading climate summit, say critics.
-- 97.124.42.180 (talk) 06:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why are we taking edits from Adnoc, anyway?

Seriously, can someone explain that to me?

The account @CB at ADNOC is literally ran by Sultan Al Jaber's team. They are paid for creating a good image, requesting to remove negative and add positive information. Why should Wikipedia cater someone's commercial interests, let alone interests of a fossil fuel company that is trying to infiltrate climate conferences, so it can carry on destroying the world? 148.252.133.105 (talk) 18:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because not all CoI edits are bad, or even controversial. We encourage CoI editors to declare their CoI, and to use talk pages to request` all but the most benign edits. Each CoI should be judged on its merits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion involving BLP and marital status/children of this subject

Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons § Should a marital status or number of children be mentioned if no sources deem them noteworthy? Huggums537 (talk) 14:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should we use The National as a source here?

This article currently makes quite extensive use of The National, a UAE newspaper, as a source. Most of the uses aren't particularly controversial, as they are mostly press release-style announcements of Al Jaber doing this or that. However, it appears that The National is owned by a royal and PM of the UAE. We thus have a source here owned by the UAE government (or rather someone with immediate stakes in said government) reporting on issues regarding the UAE government, which calls reliability and notability of The National as a source into question. I'd rather not use it in this article but I'd like to hear some input. Cortador (talk) 08:36, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: there's also some other possibly not reliable sources: Energy Voice is owned by the carbon industry, and advertises itself as being able to "provide members with a unique marketing platform". Gulf Business and Gulf News are owned or partially owned by Obaid Al Tayer, who was an Emirati minister until recently.

Editors largely agree that The National is at minimum not a suitable source for topics related to the UAE, and possibly generally unreliable (see here).

Updates to page

Hi all, I disclose that I have a conflict of interest and would like to suggest the following changes to the article to bring it up to date:

1. The introduction currently reads:

Al Jaber is the UAE's special envoy for

mitigate climate change
.

Can this be updated from designate to president (as he did carry out this role), and could a sentence be added to indicate the international response to his work in this capacity. The new text would read as follows:

Al Jaber is the UAE's special envoy for

mitigate climate change
.

The following sources corroborate this:

  1. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/13/climate/sultan-al-jaber-cop28.html
  2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/13/cop28-deal-significant-progress-tackle-climate-crisis
  3. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231213-uae-s-jaber-oil-boss-who-brokered-beginning-of-end-for-fossil-fuels

2. Similarly, there is no update on the results of COP28 in the COP28 Presidency section. Could the following or similar be added:

Under Al Jaber's presidency, the summit committed to a climate agreement containing language directing a "transition away from fossil fuels". This was the first United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change COP event where an agreement was reached which suggested such a direction for fossil fuels.

Again, the following sources confirm this result:

  1. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/13/climate/sultan-al-jaber-cop28.html
  2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/13/cop28-deal-significant-progress-tackle-climate-crisis
  3. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231213-uae-s-jaber-oil-boss-who-brokered-beginning-of-end-for-fossil-fuels

3. In the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section, the third paragraph refers to output, but this figure actually refers to production capacity and should be changed accordingly i.e. "As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has sought to increase ADNOC's crude oil production capacity from 3 million barrels of oil a day in 2016 to 5 million by 2030."[1]

  1. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61365

4. Also in the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section, the first line is "Al Jaber has tried to position himself as an environmental advocate". The wording of the original New York Times source refers to "serving as an environmental advocate" rather than "trying to position" but it is hard to describe levels of advocacy without subjectivity. As the Sultan's actions/role both as a climate advocate and as a fossil fuels executive are covered amply elsewhere in the paragraph and in the rest of the article, and the paragraph still makes sense without this sentence, I would like to suggest removing this sentence to preserve a neutral tone.

Many thanks for considering these changes. Dedemocha (talk) 17:18, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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