Talk:Super Paper Mario/Archive 2

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I just came from the mario rpg list and this game wan not included, being a noob I have no Idea how to change this so could some one add this to the list?Blue loonie 01:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not exactly a RPG, so I see no need, personally. Crowstar 21:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The article calls in an RPG, so I think it can be considered one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.155.164 (talk • contribs)

Just checked the Nintendo press site, seeing as they have free access for a week. Anyway, the release date for this game is still saying "Q4 2006", I checked the release list on Nintendo.com, the game didn't even show up. I think a note that IGN's news post might be a rumor should be in order. Or if anyone could find it on Nintendo.com.

On EBGames.com it says 1/1/06 for the Gamecube release date—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.95.80 (talk • contribs)

Stores and websites use placeholder dates until they have the correct info. TJ Spyke 21:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, at this point EBgames.com has the coverart of the game and shows it for being released April 23rd. Since Nintendo Power supports the April release date and the website has the correct boxart, can we use EBgames as a source for an April 23rd NA release date or what? --12.206.1.97 02:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

There is no proof that the box art is real, it's the RUMORED boxart. EB Games (and retailers in general) are not reliable for release date and price info. TJ Spyke 02:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

When GameStop puts those covers up, they usually look a lot less professional than that does... And also typically put 'for display purposes' on the cover. I'd count on it popping up on IGN or other websites within a few weeks, personally, if not days. I'd still wait on the release date though. Eusis 03:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It's still just rumored though. TJ Spyke 03:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

A bit late of a response, but IGN seems to have it too. While they've jumped the gun before, I doubt they just take boxart from GameStop. Eusis 09:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

According to this website, a Nintendo press release states the game to be out on April 9, 2007. I'd edit the page but I'm not adept at editing Wiki pages and linking sources and all that stuff yet. Sorry. Someone who knows how can do it.  :) http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/02/12/nintendo-spills-the-beans-on-super-paper-mario-release-date/

72.10.212.21 19:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to know how you'd have it edited, since it's already been put in. :P Eusis 19:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't there when I first checked the page out... I guess I'm just slow. :P 72.10.212.21 20:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It's April 10,not April 9,when I reseverd it,it says April 23 then it said April 10.DATE:APRIL 10,2007(wfmp) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.191.112 (talk • contribs)

It's defiantly April 10th Antipepsiinc 21:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

"Defiantly"? Who is it defying? :) It released today. To the unsigned user, the reason your store lists April 10th is because that is when they will receive it, it shipped today and some stores on the west coast do get it today. Amazon ships it tomorrow, but other online stores are shipping today. TJ Spyke 22:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Where is the European release date, surely it doesn't take that long to port from NTSC to PAL these days, especially considering Japan is Pal too... Anyway, if anyone has any details please let us all know. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.84.9.174 (talk • contribs)

Japan are NTSC

Nintendo has not announced a EU date. It's not always just a matter of converting it. North America has had Metroid Prime Pinball since October 2005 and even Australia has had it since December 2005, but Europe won't get it until June 2007 (so it's not a NTSC-PAL issue since Europe and Australia are both PAL). TJ Spyke 23:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo DS' don't have video formats like NTSC and PAL because they don't use a television. DS units are identical in all parts of the world, but yeah your point is still valid. It's not always just a localization thing.

MrHate

23:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that and as soon as we start talking about the DS you won't look like a retard.

its April 10 period,u dont no anything about mario so,dont say april 9,its april 10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.191.112 (talk • contribs)

Wrong, it was April 9. Most stores didn't get it until the 10th, but it was released on the 9th. TJ Spyke 21:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I just posted bside Red Flower that it was previously called a Fire Flower (for all Mario noobs.) I'm not sure if that affects the flow of the article though. What do you think?12.210.112.51 22:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Umm, im pretty sure it's still called a Fire flower, that been going on for to long for nintendo to just change it. Even if it isnt called a fire flower in this game thats what it will always be called.--71.183.44.244 02:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand now, its not the same thing. The fire flower and the red flower are different. Ill make that clear.--Widkid85 02:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Holy ****! Is the GameCube Dead!? It seems that all their newly released games or going for the Wii. I just recently found out about SPM on the Wii. wasn't it originally planned for the GC? --TheGreenLink 18:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes it was originally scheduled for the GameCube, a couple of weeks ago it was officially switched. Nintendo is making the smart move by fully concentrating on the Wii IMO. I read that Nintendo has also officially stopped manufacturing GC's. TJ Spyke 21:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

That is false news. Both Nintendo UK and Nintendo of America confirmed that the GC is still in production, as well as all the games they released for the system. Plus there's a handful of third-party games confirmed to be released for the GC this year, including good ones like

Radio Allergy and Madden NFL 08. And so because of those facts, Nintendo isn't fully concentrating on the Wii (though, mostly) and the GC isn't officially dead yet. Still, I have to say that Super Paper Mario being moved to the Wii is a good one since the Wii has very few games that are good.-Mega Man 5

15 April 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo isn't making any more GameCube games. The same way they still make GBA systems even though they stopped making GBA games a long time ago. TJ Spyke 21:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo's not making anymore GC games, but they're still producing the GC and every game they released for the system. Also, several third-party games are confirmed to come to the GC like Radio Allergy, Madden NFL 08, and FIFA 08. And it wasn't a long time ago when Nintendo released their last GC and GBA game. Twilight Princess was released for GC only 5 months ago, and Pokemon Emerald was released only a little over a year ago. Anyway, the GC's not officially dead. Mega Man 5 8 May 2007 (UTC)

In the items section, i added Thunder Rage on the Offensive Items and the Happy Flower in the Special Items that were from lots of videos i've seen lately. After a while, i decided to join Wikipedia too add that new info to that page. :) Anyways, im new here!

NintendoWiiOwner 01:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The game isn't even out, but it's already turning into a guide: Super_Paper_Mario#Power-ups. A clear item guide, which isn't what Wikipedia is for. I would delete it, but I can imagine people will just re-add it (thinking it's fine, just because the game isn't out or whatever the case might be).zRobJ1981 04:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't intend for it be a guide, I simply reorganized the information according to item types to make it appear less thrown together. --ThomasO1989 16:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't freak out. It is a similar size to the articles for other games of its stature. Soon it will be out, but in terms of Nintendo's game plan on Wii it's a big sleeper hit. As long as it doesn't grow out of hand, we shouldn't trim it until we know what is most relevant. It's certainly nothing to freak out about. --Ira-welkin 16:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not freaking out, that comment wasn't needed. As per game guide policies/guidelines: item lists are rarely encyclopedic. Why let it exist now, and delete it later? Delete it now, and end the item guide issue. Some are relevant, and some aren't: but that's not the issue. The issue is it's becoming an item guide. The use of items can be described in the plot, when the game comes out. But even then: a mass listing of them (or describing of alot of them) isn't notable for Wikipedia. It being a hit or not: doesn't mean item lists are allowed. RobJ1981 21:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Way is this game under main series when it is a RPGSonicrules2 19:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules2

It has just as many ties to the Super Mario Bros series as it does the RPG series'. It's both... sorta. The RPG elements were toned down and, obviously, the platforming elements were made more prominent. This isn't my reasoning, but a possible explanation to your quandary. --Thaddius 05:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Well it's part RPG, part platformer... so it technically leans towards both the main series and RPG series. It's more platformer though, so main series seems to be the correct place for it. RobJ1981 05:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

It still doesn't really seem like a main Mario game, though that could change when I actually play it. Maybe the developer should be used as more of a benchmark? All the others, as far as I know, were developed by EAD and not a group like Intelligent Systems. Eusis 06:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the Paper Mario series is a spinoff. It's not part of the main Mario timeline. --Nintendorulez talk 01:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't say it's a spinoff, it's more like a parallel universe to the Mushroom World...--TheGreenLink 17:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't put it as an RPG, seeing as it's mainly platformer with some RPG elements. Crowstar 21:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I just now found out this game came out today! Is this hard to find, or is it everywhere and easy to buy? --TheGreenLink 17:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

This isn't the place for this type of discussion. Discuss changes to the article: not the fact you can't find it. But anyway: to answer your question, most likely it will be out tomorrow everywhere. April 9 is technically the shipping date, as games come out on Tuesdays most of the time. Correct me if I'm wrong (and this game is an exception). RobJ1981 20:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Rob is correct. With most games, the release date is the date that the company ships the game. Some stores in the northwest (where Nintendo ships their games from) get it today, but most stores won't get it until tomorrow. TJ Spyke 21:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I got it april 9th, I'm happy, it's kick ass, if you don't have it you should... --168.212.252.30 17:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

As the talkheader clearly states: This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. RobJ1981 21:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I've received two images from Nintendo of Canada over the last few weeks telling me that the game was to be released on the 11th. Now, the 9th was Easter Monday so no stores were open, but yesterday I picked up a copy from my local EB. Anyone else able to get it yesterday, or even Monday in Canada? --Thaddius 01:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I got the game on the ninth in Quebec. I got the game from Microplay. --70.48.111.92 00:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Why was the article reverted from flagicons? It seems if anything flagicons would be more appropriate since sometimes US and Canadaian release dates differ. Is there a wikipedia policy saying not to include flagicons? It seems a lot of video game articles prefer the icons over text. If not objection or reason not to include flagicons, then I'll revert back. Thanks, HumanZoom 01:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

There is some dispute over the Canadian release date. NOC website says the same date as the States [1](I was asked not to add the Canadian flag icon for that reason), but the emails NOC has been sending to us Canadians on the NOC mailing list says otherwise (This image from the email says 11th). I purchased mine on the 10th when the store I go to got them. The game can not have been released on all 3 days in one area. Since I didn't post my concerns about the Canadian release date until after I reverted your flagicons, I doubt you were really that concerned about Canadian being represented on the main page. Leave as is for now until we sort this out. Thanks. :) --Thaddius 01:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

True. I admit I forgot completely about a Canadian release date until you posted your concerns (I was just mimicking other video game pages which seem to only display a US flag). I only added that to my defense after I read about the Canadian release date debacle you posted above this section. It sounds as though saying that a North American release date of April 9 may or may not be inaccurate.

Where did you get that image of the game be avaiable on April 11? A mailing from NOC?

I remember reading another article similar to this one where people were unable to get the game on the announced date. For example, I typically buy all my games from the retailer Target which did not release Super Paper Mario until Tuesday the 10th. Of course all of this is irrelevant, since it is all original research. It is my opinion that retailers typically release games when they want to (unless it is a high profile game which has an unbreakable street date). I have been able to find games a couple of weeks before they were suppose to be out in stores, simply because the shipment arrived early and there was nothing prohibiting the retailers from selling the game that day. On the same token, like in the Super Paper Mario example, games that were advertised to be available on a certain day were delayed for unknown reasons. Obviously, I am digressing. I think the only thing we can do now is just accept the official release dates published by Nintendo and move on. Now, as far as the flag icon issue...are you concerned that there was no Canadian flag represented? I think the flag icon makes the page look more professional. Perhaps we could just put both the US and Canadian flag with release dates. Or, we could try and create a split flag icon to indicate both the US and Canada. Just some food for thought. I won't change anything until there is a decision on this page. Thanks, HumanZoom 06:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

As metnione earlier I got the game on the ninth in Quebec so there defintly was not an offical date change. If anything it is the different dates likely have to do with shipping etc and not a change. --70.48.111.92 00:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I got that image from an e-mail\newsletter NOC sent me. There were numerous images in the e-mail. I found a better site though here. According to a few others I've talked to they did get it on then 9th. It seems that the e-mail was somehow a typo. We'll go with the regular 'NA' for North America thing for now. As for the US flag being the 'norm', that's changed. If you check the PSP, DS, Nintendo DS Lite and many other systems and game articles, they use the same NA, EUR, AUS, JPN, etc. setup, not flags. If there is a spliced flag that would be ideal. I've had a discussion about that on a few sites already and no one seems to have such an image. --Thaddius 00:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

That's because others have started changing it. I think the flags look better, but it's no big deal to me. TJ Spyke 00:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Flags may look better when it's just USA, Japan and Europe, but once people start throwing in Canadian flags, Mexico, China, Australia, ad infentum it gets WAY too long. The early Wii article is a perfect example of that; people kept throwing in as many flags as possible. It's not fair for just the US, Japan and Europe to be the only ones represented on wikipedia. Users from all over come to this site for info and I imagine a lot of English speaking people visiting this site who aren't from the US or Europe would be put off to see that their country isn't being represented. I am Canadian and I have been either putting in Canadian flags (which you have removed in the past TJ Spyke) or changing it to the NA thing because just putting a US flag does not cover Canada and Mexico; saying North America does. It's either flood the info bar with flags, or cut it down to generalized areas where the games came out on the same date, and again the US flag is not recognized as the flag of Mexico of Canada. --Thaddius 02:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

This makes me wish that the countries here in North America would create something like the European Union (1 flag, 1 currency, etc.). TJ Spyke 03:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Create a simple, unified system that would force us to work with the United States? Sadly, I don't think that would happen anytime soon. --LuigiManiac 03:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

It would take a few years, but it could be done. Europe did it and they are far more different from each other. Besides, Canada and especially Mexico would benefit from linking to the US dollar. Nevermind, we are getting off topic. TJ Spyke 03:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The US dollar is going down; don't want to link with a sinking ship. ;), but yes, ^NA is much better than when it comes to representing Canada, unless someone objects for a valid reason... --Thaddius 01:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Haha, I guess you are a Canuck? When's the last time you seen people sneaking into Canada? Just joking, I have no problems with Americ'a hat. TJ Spyke 01:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this is neither the time nor place to be discussing North American economics. Let's try to stay on topic. Is there a suggestion page for discussion of Wikipedia policy we could bring these concerns to? I think if we had a policy which says either use this or that for EVERY article there would be less confusion and we could avoid talks like this. I am fairly new to Wikipedia and even still do not know all the ins and outs to everything. If someone could add this topic for discussion in the appropriate place or direct me to the proper place I will be happy to do so. Thanks, HumanZoom 07:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

See CVG Infobox Template Usage Notes. Flag icons shouldn't be used, it should country codes (and there's a link there with additional countries should there need to be one separate for USA and Canada, for example). --Masem 13:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

No need to attempt to moderate the talk page, HumanZoom. The reason NA is being used is because the US and Canada seemingly have the same release date, and why have two lines saying, almost, the same thing. Fact of the matter is, the places are fine the way they are. And TJ Spyke, where do you think all the draft dodgers fled to? ;) --Thaddius 23:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

When i put SPM in my Wii and went to play it it did a system update check or somthing to that matter... what was that about. If I din't have version 2 would it not play it or somthing? --TheGreenLink 22:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

The game comes with the firmware update to version 2.0U. I assume it was meant for systems that cannot connect to the internet, or some other matter; incidentally, the update to version 2.2U was made available two days after the U.S. release of Super Paper Mario, along with the introduction of the full version of the Internet Channel, thus making the firmware update that came with Super Paper Mario obsolete. Disaster Kirby 17:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

This is the same issue that is causing imports to brick PAL and NTSC-J units, as an aside Jaymzjulian 10:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I already had Version 2.0U and it still did it I'll check if I have version 2.2U--TheGreenLink 22:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I have the latest firmware (V 2.2U) and it did not check my system when I inserted the disc. HumanZoom 00:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

A lot of people say when they put in it updates even if they have the latest update--User:NFAN3|NFAN3 19:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Super Paper Mario is in the Paper Mario series not in the main series even if it is part platformer. —The preceding

Mind telling everyone why? -- Lord Crayak 23:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Sorry about the bad grammer but here's what I have to say. Super Paper Mario doesn't belong in the main series because of how it is presented (example: art style). also its has Paper Mario in its name meaning it belong in the Paper Mario series. and finally it is a RPG based game. 67.164.35.55 (talk) 03:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess not.--Claude 22:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Although that was a really bad way of saying it, I think he's right. The inside jokes and references are mostly from the other two paper mario games, such as Merlon and all the items in Fort Francis, and the general story style fits better with the other two games. Most importantly, it's called Super Paper Mario. Sadly, I have no "official" sources to confirm this, but few of the Mario games have any storyline continuation between them in the first place. JDub90 17:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Exactly? Merlon doesn't seem to remember Mario at all from the other Paper Mario games, nor do the other "Mer" people, so I doubt Merlon's presence would affects anything (though I would understand if say, Kammy were in this). 208.101.131.123 03:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

It is obvious that this is a different Merlon. The Mushroom Kingdom has its own Merlon, Merluvlee, Merlee, etc. Rogueport also has its own "Mer-" people. The Merlon in SPM is obviously the Merlon from Flipside. —The preceding

unsigned comment was added by 71.54.248.120 (talk

) 02:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

Right, but the point still stands. Okay, think of it this way. Zelda 2 was totally different that the other 2D Zelda games. It was a jumping side-scroller, whereas other Zelda games had overhead action. Yet it's still part of the series (and chronologically, most likely a possible conclusion to the series). So why take Super Paper Mario away even if it's a little different?

I have a proposition that could help clear away the confusion. Since we all admit that the Mario series has no real coherent "canon" to speak of, and Wikipedia assumes that only the platform adventures are mainstream, how about we rename this Mario series template to "Mario platform games"? That way, no one needs to fight over it, and it fits perfectly as well.208.101.136.230 11:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

This article is pretty sloppy. I'm going to go ahead and rewrite parts of it, but feel free to change anything I edit as you like if it goes against Wikipedia's guidelines or whatever. 24.78.106.111 03:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the game yet (or the strategy guide), so I don't know enough about the game to write an article. That's why I haven't done much. TJ Spyke 04:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Well for one, the Easter Eggs section needs removed outright. Practically none of the information in that section is really needed in the article; it's basically a list of fanservice bits. (I'm sure there are several people who would agree on this.) Disaster Kirby 04:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that; I'd leave a placeholder that there are many references to the past "Paper Mario" series as well as other Nintendo games, but cite no examples or the like. --Masem 04:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT) As much as I like knowing about all the little easter eggs in a game, I agree, it is really unnecessary to the article. The whole thing can just be scrapped, although I think I'll save it to Notepad before it gets deleted (for later reading, not to repost it somewhere else in Wikipedia). --LuigiManiac 04:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Some of those easter eggs can stay (like the one character having Nintendo systems in his room and the I AM ERROR thing, for example). TJ Spyke 04:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Two problems with leaving any reference like that in: 1) you leave one in, people are bound to want to add others ad infinitium. 2) it's still speculation. If you can find a source that says that the developers included a Zelda easter egg in the game, great, we can add it, but every one of these is speculation otherwise. Basically: they all should go, even if it is a cool or interesting one. --Masem 04:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The whole easter eggs section either needs to go, or be seriously condensed...then watched. I own Super Paper Mario: and I realize it has many references to Nintendo games/previous Paper Mario games. But that certainly doesn't mean we need a list of them all (which is what the section seems to be leaning towards). RobJ1981 05:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I also vote that the easter eggs section should be removed altogether. If there is a website that provides a list of Nintendo references in the game, we can add a link to that in the external links section. TheyCallMeGeorge 05:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the easter egg section should go. There's nothing important there, and looking at the history, all it had was in-jokes, and not any real easter eggs. JDub90 17:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks like Easter Eggs has been removed, but a just as useless trivia section has been added. Especially considering how widespread I AM ERROR is, I'm just going to delete it. JDub90 15:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I see that there's a List of Characters in SPM, which is reasonably fine (a few guide-ish type statement but not excess yet). I think if that article exists (and as it borrows a lot from the main page), that we should get rid of the character on the main page, EXCEPT for the 4 playable ones, and then on the List page, get rid of the playable characters section, such that that page is ONLY the character new to SPM. It'll help keep this article on the shorter side. --Masem 14:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Masem, O'Chunks should be believed to be fairly flatulent..Haven't you seen the way he 'rockets' off after you chunk him? -- Phoeba Wright^OBJECTION! 04:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing that suggests its flatulent related in the official documentation or dialog (no one talked of odors or the like), and if it were, it seems outside of the usual "cleanness" that Nintendo goes for (outside of Wario, of course). I'm not saying that it can't be, but adding it in is purely speculation unless a primary source says otherwise. --Masem 05:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

We have a

The list on the main page duplicates some of the info on the list page, and as such, is an unnecessary list. I've cut it out, leaving a blurb more related to gameplay about the characters, but left the Main Article wikilink right there. --Masem 14:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Inside the chef's place, there is a large Nintendo DS on the wall. Hitting up on the D-Pad next to it, you are told the software is not out yet. Could someone tell me when it will be released/what this will do? It seems important for the article as well if it's going o affect the game, or at least explaining what i does if it's known. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.91.155.164 (talk)

This isn't a place to ask for help, i'm sure the people at GameFAQs can help you. This page is for discussing improvements to the article. TJ Spyke 22:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't asking for help. I was asking what the feature is going to be. It seems important for the article, as it's in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.155.164 (talk • contribs)

It's not. As I said, go to GameFAQs if you have questions about the game. The DS in the game just holds recipes for cooking. You probably just haven't gotten to that point yet. TJ Spyke 01:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry then. By what it said about not implemented in the system or whatever, I assumed it was something going to be released in a Wii update for the game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.91.155.164 (talk)

Some people on another messageboard thought the same thing. So just for future reference, remember that talkpages are only for discussing improvements to an article, not for general discussion of the subject. TJ Spyke 03:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Please keep in mind that this anonymous editor was looking for information that wasn't covered in the article and thought that it probably should've been (it may have been noteworthy if the game were released incomplete, as the IP editor thought). --

Brandon Dilbeck

16:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

For those of you that have played through at least Chapter Three, you'll know Francis mention a "digibutter.nerr forums". (Screenshot at "www.digibutter.net")

I found it. Well, others have, but I haven't seen it mentioned here and wanted to bring it to attention. I'm not sure if it's fan made or by Nintendo. Anyone care to check it out? Link. IrishmanDX 23:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)