Talk:Terence Trent D'Arby

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Any information on why D'Arby changed his name? —Frecklefoot 19:09, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC) This is a valid question, save your insults on the singer for somewhere else. Trolls. --Tessie xo (talk) 01:38, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sananda Maitreya does not mean "rebirth" in Sanskrit. Sananda means "happiness" and maitreya means "love". This article (perhaps due to Maitreya's own misunderstanding, granted) misunderstands maybe Sanskrit, not being his language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9C3D:4800:457E:BC7F:9A4C:189C (talk) 22:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A song of his by the name of Letting Go was used in the movie The Fan, it was the most consistentley used song in the movie and the first song to play as the credits roll. 18:37, 27 September 2006 User:69.203.202.10

The article used the subject's names a little inconsistently. The article should probably proceed in one of two ways: a) use his current name throughout, or b) use the name he used at the time of the incident under discussion. I changed a few things to bring the article largely in compliance with option a), which was how the large majority of the article had already been written, and which I think is probably best. DCB4W 02:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When following the link to that channel, one gets the message "This account is suspended."--213.168.111.135 (talk) 09:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The collection of songs was then compiled into "WIlDCARD" a fantastic album that was released by the artist independently in 2002 and got international reviews and massive radio airplay" - Massive radio airplay? Did it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.34.187 (talk) 15:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What a horrible page; this reads like pure promotion. I lived through the 80's, bought his record the first week like everyone else and played it to death. I also remember that much controversy surrounded him, and that he popularly is known to have completely fallen of the proverbial map. Practically speaking, no one has paid this guy any attention for 20 years, though you would have no idea by this sheer piece of

The naming consistency in this article is wrong. In the Muhammad Ali article, for instance, everything that that Ali achieved under the name Clay is attributed to Clay; there's no attempt at revisionism. This article is full of it. My copy of Introducing the hardline does not credit Sananda Francesco Maitreya anywhere and yet it is his debut album? Everything prior to the artist's renaming should be accredited to their legal or professional title at the time, not to something subsequent - particularly when it relates to someone whose latter identity is far less recognised than that which they held at the time. danno 01:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thoroughly agree - got very confused as to when he had changed his name!93.96.148.42 (talk) 01:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Based on these comments, I have now rectified the glaring misrepresentation and confusion that follows by universally attributing everything to Maitreya. AS you rightly point out, everything done as D'Arby should be attributed under that name. If I missed a note here or there, feel free to correct it. werldwayd (talk) 10:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a good source for the missing material in personal life - http://www.sanandamaitreya.com/interviews/Qmagazine.html93.96.148.42 (talk)

That's not actually a good source as it is a primary source.

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Common sense says this is vandalism but I did a Yahoo binge to see if it had a shred of credibility and it did not. Wikipedia is the only source of this "obscure condition". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.9.236 (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello, this page title should be renamed into Sananda Maitreya to follow the evolution of the artist. In fact all the old discography from Introducing The Hardline onwards, has been renamed from Terence Trent D’Arby to Sananda Maitreya by Sony Music. If you Google anywhere it says Sananda Maitreya, included all streaming music services, such as Apple Music or Spotify.

If someone googles Terence Trent D’Arby it should be redirected to this page that should have only Sananda Maitreya in the title How is possible to make this happen in early December 2022 ? Thank you!

Thanks 151.18.187.2 (talk) 12:38, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't. See

WP:COMMONNAME and the section on this page above - Roxy the dog 16:41, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply

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correct, although I see that the thread with this discussion is from 2009 and soon we will be in 2023. Lots of time has passed since!

I do see lots of progress has been done on the new name recognition, which should be acknowledged on this page too.

Martyn Ware has published in July 2022 an autobiographical book with Sananda Maitreya's name in the back cover, just to make one of the many vairous recent examples. Rockforlife (talk) 09:30, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So what? The name change is well covered in the article, it isn't our fault that people know him as TTD. Just to be clear, you seem not to have read the article, perhaps you should. - Roxy the dog 11:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He wants to be addressed by his name, and you say "so what?"

I then ask you: Who has the right to decide, the artist or us contributors (who are supposed to appreciate and respect his evolution btw..) ..just asking?

and what is the arm to have the 2 names reverted, will you forget who he was? I don't think so.

thanks for reading anyway. Rockforlife (talk) 08:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is an encyclopaedia, not his social media profile. Name changes here are subject to Wikipedia's policies.

WP:COMMONNAME to learn what are constitutes a common name and how to prove that one name is the common name over another. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 09:48, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply

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The request is to make the page title and URL reflect this person's

Sananda Maitreya. There are verifiable articles which document his new identity The Guardian Classic Pop, and digital music platforms for his music also reflect this. "Apple Music". "Spotify".. It's probably a good time to respect this person's wishes so if there is anyone who can support and help with granting this move request, you'd be doing a good deed for someone who's been waiting since, as a previous contributor mentioned, 2009. Mark Hiscox (talk) 16:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply

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Approve.

I do agree with @Mark Hiscox

This request is to make the page title and URL reflect this person's own right to personal identity which is Sananda Maitreya !

I approve this change and would like to know how shall we reopen this case, who decides? @CX Zoom are you the official administrator of this page,

do you have the power to please proceed with this page renaming request?

BTW There is an encyclopedia of rock called "il dizionario del pop-rock" by Zanichelli where all of his career is portrayed under the name "Sananda Maitreya"

and at the "Terence Trent D'Arby" section it is written: please go to "Sananda Maitreya".

It WIKIPEDIA is a free encyclopedia, can we have the page renamed as well? Rockforlife (talk) 13:34, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See Prince. - Roxy the dog 13:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point about Prince, but his name changes are described as pseudonyms that he used in various stages of his career for various purposes, so I don't think this example applies in this instance. Perhaps a better example would be for

Sananda Maitreya's case, the verifiable article in The Guardian documents the nervous breakdown which triggered his identity change, and for this reason I would approve the page move and redirect as requested. Mark Hiscox (talk) 14:40, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply

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Approve. thanks Mark, in fact this will really be fair to the artist, I believe. Could you then proceed with the page move? Rockforlife (talk) 08:35, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are kidding, right? - Roxy the dog 10:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, you both have the technical ability to move pages, but there is a consensus to the contrary. Do what you want but you'll be reverted and page will be move-protected. The easiest way to get done what you are asking for would be to show that

reliable sources regularly call him by his newly adopted name, instead of the former one. Read also Template:Not a ballot. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 13:13, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply

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we're actually 2 people voting for YES and 2 people voting for the NO !

Who has the right to decide?

thanks x Rockforlife (talk) 20:56, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The status quo ante. (But we really are not there yet). - Roxy the dog 22:21, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The status quo hic et nunc: which is Sananda Maitreya ! Rockforlife (talk) 07:41, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello CX Zoom, after almost 1 year I've just discovered that all the old albums covers have been renamed to Sananda Maitreya, on spotify, apple, youtube etc https://music.apple.com/us/album/introducing-the-hardline-according-to-sananda-maitreya/250551726

Could we consider this a reliable source to now ask for a page rename from Terence Trent D'Arby to Sananda Maitreya? I don't have the capability to do it, but I believe that this could be a useful update for the wikipedia community. Rockforlife (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]