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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Jean Mignon

The Transformation of Actaeon, Jean Mignon
The Transformation of Actaeon, Jean Mignon

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jean Mignon; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - other
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Epicgenius: Good article. Though, the hook is weirdly worded. What does ". that in the 16th-century etchings of Jean Mignon" mean? is it referring to etchings by him the 16th century or etchings of him? Also, the lead is way too big. There's no reason a 4 paragraph article should have a 3 paragraph lead. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Don't understand - is there a missing word here? Anyway, changed "of" to "by", although I don't see this was unclear. There are no etchings showing him. The lead is not too long; many leads are much too short. Anyway, this is not a DYK issue. Johnbod (talk) 19:28, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
@Johnbod: "that in the 16th-century etchings by Jean Mignon" seems to have an error somewhere. Also yes, I know the lead doesn't matter so I'll approve if it doesn't get fixed but the lead is still way to big regardless. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
Well, if you track the error down, let me know. Johnbod (talk) 05:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
@Johnbod: We could say "... that in etchings by Jean Mignon, most figures have open mouths?" as I don't really see the reason as to why the century date needs to be added in the hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
The date give useful context, and is rather surprisingly early; these are among the first French etchings. Johnbod (talk) 21:17, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
  • @Onegreatjoke: I think you meant to ping Johnbod there, but since he's aware of your review already, this is a bit of a moot point. Epicgenius (talk) 21:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
  • If it makes you happier, I could change the word order:
  • ALT1 * ... that most figures in the 16th-century etchings by Jean Mignon have open mouths (example pictured)? Johnbod (talk) 21:20, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Seemingly abandoned by the previous reviewer, so I'm reviewing it. Approve ALT1. BorgQueen (talk) 14:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)