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This template was considered for deletion on 28 May 2012. The result of the discussion was "no consensus". |
Removed entries
Although I believe the template cannot be kept stable and away from
Articles listing the template
It would be best to ensure that the articles removed from the template also have the template removed from those articles; I took care of my removals, but.... 05:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Nepiophilia link
The template's link to
- I was gonna make an article on nepiophilia but it redirects to pedophilia. Oct13 (talk) 14:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Just made an article for ]
- Just wondering, what's the name for attraction towards children under three? __talk) 19:21, 18 May 2012 (UTC)]
- There is no need for a Nepiophilia article. It is a form of pedophilia, and there is not much to state about it on its own. That's why it redirected to the Pedophilia article and should be redirected back there. Further, nepiophilia is a sexual preference for infants and toddlers (meaning ages 0–3). If we're going to say it also refers to "children over the age of three," then where does the age bracket stop? We might as well say nepiophilia covers all of pedophilia. This is why we don't use sources like rightdiagnosis.com to define psychological topics such as this. We use high-quality, scholarly sources, per talk) 16:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)]
- There is no need for a Nepiophilia article. It is a form of pedophilia, and there is not much to state about it on its own. That's why it redirected to the Pedophilia article and should be redirected back there. Further, nepiophilia is a sexual preference for infants and toddlers (meaning ages 0–3). If we're going to say it also refers to "children over the age of three," then where does the age bracket stop? We might as well say nepiophilia covers all of pedophilia. This is why we don't use sources like rightdiagnosis.com to define psychological topics such as this. We use high-quality, scholarly sources, per
- Just wondering, what's the name for attraction towards children under three? __
- Just made an article for ]
Groups
I don't exactly disagree with this, but if a list is to be included (at all) it should be reasonably complete in its coverage of the most notable associations that we have articles on, instead of a haphazard selection. Like I said in an edit summary, a single link to an overview article or perhaps a category link may be better. Tijfo098 (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Also, calling them "pedophile associations" was a bit of whitewashing, but I suppose whoever added the line in the first place found a more descriptive name too long. Tijfo098 (talk) 12:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
James Cantor, if I had seen you make this edit in July, I would have reverted back then; I reverted today (followup note here).
Like I stated in that edit summary, we've discussed this times before at different articles, including at the Hebephilia talk page: I consider the hebephilia age range (generally pubescents 11 to 14 years old) to be an atypical sexual preference, and that hebephiles need counseling regarding that sexual preference. In some countries or jurisdictions, however, age 14 is the age of consent and it's normal in some of those areas to find 14-year-olds sexually attractive (though the adult who takes a sexual interest in a 14-year-old might not be a hebephile, since hebephilia is more accurately about the primary or exclusive sexual attraction to that age group). You and some researchers you work with classify hebephilia as a paraphilia; like the Hebephilia article notes, many other researchers either disagree or are conflicted on the matter of classifying it as such. Therefore, the DSM-5 rejected listing hebephilia as a paraphilia and mental disorder.
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- I am indifferent regarding what does/does-not constitute a paraphilia, as there is no objective way to decide (thus far). I made the change because the term "chronophilia" is virtually unheard of outside of Money's own writings. Perhaps the phrase 'associated sexual interests' would serve both purposes.— James Cantor (talk) 00:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- I wouldn't state that "chronophilia is virtually unheard outside of Money's own writings"; a search on talk) 00:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)]
- I wouldn't state that "chronophilia is virtually unheard outside of Money's own writings"; a search on
- We've also discussed what does/does not constitute a paraphilia, and I see it as quite easy to objectively label some things as a paraphilia (an atypical sexual interest). talk) 00:59, 6 September 2014 (UTC)]
- We've also discussed what does/does not constitute a paraphilia, and I see it as quite easy to objectively label some things as a paraphilia (an atypical sexual interest).
Recent additions
I did re-add these additions, but I haven't gotten around to considering your other additions. Since the Jailbait images article does mention debate about pedophilia terminology, it might be worth it to list that article on this template.
- This definitely appears to be a case of casting the broadest net possible with the template on any article that might possibly be related to the topic, but no nessissarily8 about the topic. I've gone ahead and removed it from Online predator, Child-on-child sexual abuse, and Child sexual abuse accommodation syndrome because these articles are not directly related to pedophilia. COPINE scale is a bit more of a edge case because it is related to child pornography, but the article is not linked to on the template. Remember that navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related articles to facilitate navigation between those articles in Wikipedia. And as such, every article that transcludes a given navbox should normally also be included as a link in the navbox so that the navigation is bidirectional. —Farix (t | c) 12:27, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
- I'm okay with the removal here per Farix. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:17, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
- Before TheFarix reverted some additions, I also reverted Crzer07 on a few additions of the template, such as at the Child marriage article. talk) 20:35, 20 November 2017 (UTC)]
- Before TheFarix reverted some additions, I also reverted Crzer07 on a few additions of the template, such as at the Child marriage article.