User talk:Andy Dingley/Archive 2010 August
File:HMS Tiger, shell damage to Q turret roof after Jutland (Warships To-day, 1936).jpg
Hi. I just happened to be visiting simon harleys page and saw your posting about the above. The picture was previosuly published in 'The Fighting at Jutland (The Personal experiences of forty five Officers and men of the British Fleet)', by Harold William Fawcett and Geoffrey William Winsmore Hooper. Published 1921. Available online at http://www.archive.org/details/fightingatjutlan00fawcuoftfr
I have made further revisions to the image you posted on commons and added a tag for a second title change. If you agree it would probably be a good idea to remove the title tag you posted. If not, then by all means get back to me and we may come up with some third alternative. I tried editing the page to add the source info about Fawcett but had a hard time understanding the page, so majorly revised it. Dont know quite how you got the copyright tagging before, or the picture of the book it came from.
As I understand it, this picture is of the turret front plate, which was struck near the top, pushing the metal up towards the seam with the top plate. The top plate seems to have blown off, but I think the front plate must have stayed in place. The front plate was much thicker than the top.
Incidentally, this book is an abridged version. If i remember rightly they first published it privately, then an actual publisher produced another version, and along the way it kept getting shortened. I think it was seventy something men to begin with. Sandpiper (talk) 21:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- further to the above, I see you have been editing the file while I was also. I have copied the changes and proposed new title to your new title, File:HMS Lion, shell damage to Q turret roof after Jutland (Warships To-day, 1936).jpg Sandpiper (talk) 22:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, just delete the damned thing if you feel so strongly about it. This is a scan of one particular book, it should be listed as such. If you're so keen on crediting as something else, you get to do all the scanning. Assume I've just said the sort of thing that we're not allowed to say on Wikipedia. 8-(
- Myself, I found trying to re-title pictures on commons an incredibly frustrating and confusing experience. It looked as though you were using a special tag for that particular book? I dont know to what extent commons collects images according to source, but if it does then I presume the most important thing is to find the original source, since this is what matters for copyright purposes. In this particular case I imagine the pictures must have been taken by crew who contributed them to the original book. Or they may possibly be official photographs. The listed author should be the person who originally took the picture, not the person who scanned it. Sandpiper (talk) 07:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- OK, just delete the damned thing if you feel so strongly about it. This is a scan of one particular book, it should be listed as such. If you're so keen on crediting as something else, you get to do all the scanning. Assume I've just said the sort of thing that we're not allowed to say on Wikipedia. 8-(
Aircraft design process
I just wanted to let you know I've removed the PROD on Aircraft design process, as I think it needs further dicussions on other options before being deleted. The article was also move via cut/paste to antoher title, and this may have been the user's way of contesting the PROD. - BilCat (talk) 00:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'd noticed that but hadn't had a chance to get round to it yet. Do you have any thoughts on the article? Would you have supported prod/AfD on it, as I described? Andy Dingley (talk) 09:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey stalker
Haven't heard from you in awhile, Andy. Glad to see you're still
Orphaned non-free image File:John Cobb (small).jpg
- Sorry I missed this one. Don't worry about the proofing just yet. Chaosdruid is helping and yes I can see you guys had a run-in and I'm sure that will blow over. I would be grateful for your opinion on what's in the sandbox. As to Temple_Allen_Industries yes, point taken, it does fit those criteria. Robotics1 (talk) 11:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for help with Steam locomotive exhaust systems
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Cat Mandu/Mando
Hi Andy,
I must say that I had hardly heard of Alan's cat (or Alan) before I video-biogged him in Fleet on Thursday (26 Aug) - the info-box pic is from the interview. Alan told me of one or two fairly uncontentious factual discrepances in the article. But one of these was the name of his cat; he mentioned that many commentators got it wrong - they probably noting it down phonetically with a logical reference to Katmandu. Although quite sanguine about it, Alan said that his pet's name was spelt Cat Mando. Although a bit non-NPOV, I think we can accept that the horses mouth tells the truth. If there is a name change for the Cat Mandu article, perhaps we had better mention Hope's observation in the Cat Mandu/o talk page. I shall do this for the Hope article.
As you might be interested, I'll send a link when the bio vids are on the web. Best wishes,
Acabashi (talk) 12:40, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Seems like a page move and leaving the redirect behind, with in-text renames to tidy it up. I'd certainly cite this (Otherwise There Will Be Ructions), but it's reasonable to cite that as a reference to a dated interview with his Howlingship. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Whatever you think is best Andy. As the World seems to be under the understandable impression that moggie's name is spelt Cat Mandu, and there is no web-ref to say differently, there might be a case for leaving the name as is, and noting the reality in the article's first line. Screaming Lord Sutch is the spiritual leader of the OMRLP, and Alan tells me that Cat Mando is the spiritual leader of the Party's pet membership... my dog Squaddie is going to join - here is a quick out-take prior to interview uploads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2TC1FiXYgw Acabashi (talk) 19:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)