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Redlinks and Nicholas Clayton

I noticed that you removed the redlink [[Nicholas Clayton (Presbyterian)|Nicholas Clayton]] at Warrington Academy. In my view undoing a redlink means that you think that Wikipedia doesn't need an article on the topic. I should explain that in my view Clayton, being worth an article in the Dictionary of National Biography (s:Clayton, Nicholas (DNB00)) is probably worth an article here. If you disgree, we should discuss that. If there was some other reason you removed the redlink, we should go into that. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:32, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Charles. I've been doing a little dabbling with the
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Please do follow
WP:REDDEAL - finding redlinks "distracting" puts too much of a premium on the current state, in my view, because redlinks are the growth points; and that is the relevant editorial guideline. I mentioned the Clayton article separately because his prominence is such that reasonable people could disagree on whether he deserves an article. I'm just starting to work in this area, and might create the article once I see more of how he fits in (having placed the material on Wikisource already). I didn't want to confuse that issue with Willoughby of Parham, where I had done the work of adding the link by determining which of those he was. (Nicholas Clayton
is someone else, so I had done work to disambiguate that link, also.) We tend to assume aristocrats are worth an article.
On a more positive note, I have just created Joseph Towers and discovered that he is of interest to you (Talk:Newington Green Unitarian Church#Dictionary of National Biography). We are just getting going on Wikisource with posting the DNB, intending to do the whole work eventually. It makes sense to me to give some priority to those DNB articles that are of interest to editors here, so I'm noting these mentions when I come across them. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:19, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I had read
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Re Coward, he's in the DNB and may well get created: in fact today I was looking at him briefly. This raises a tangential issue, which is that I made him William Coward (merchant) in the DNB Epitome listing page (the one that links to that redlink), i.e. the master page out of the set I'm working from. Much disambiguation has to be going on over there to get the DNB (sub)project moving as far as checking who already has an article (it's around 27,000 names, no joke really). Anyway, nice talking to you, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/DNB Epitome gives access to all those lists. Given what I know of your interests, quite a number of the "missing" may be related to them. Charles Matthews (talk) 22:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We need help from editors who speak French...

Can you look into this article. It appears notable but a lot of the info is in Franch...

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Done.
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Random recommendation in passing

Have you read Swindled by Bee Wilson? I think you'd enjoy it. I'm halfway through and thought of you ;) Skittle (talk) 19:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of you to think of me...but why? I've heard of the author but not read that novel.
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It's not a novel, it's a history of food adulteration, with the emphasis so far being on 18th and 19th century Britain. It's very readable, and certain parts connected up with Round About a Pound a Week in my head. For example, the 1850 scandal where "a large number of orphans in Drouitt's Institute for pauper children died, as a result of their oatmeal being padded with barleymeal", and yet the same thing happened again and again: compare with the angry passages in Round about a pound a week, discussing the well-meaning suggestion that poor mothers should feed their children porridge. It's full of discussion and facts about how and why people let adulteration and short-changing get so bad, and it's fascinating. You'll love it. (I've left the project to a large extent, but I thought I'd better log in to leave this message. Mysterious messages from random IPs might give the wrong impression) Skittle (talk) 00:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced BLPs

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  1. John Minnion - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requests

I have created s:Worthington, Hugh (DNB00), and s:Kentish, John (DNB00) existed already. Watch this space for the others. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I hadn't been in the habit of looking at Wikisource.
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Another one that will be of interest to you is s:Jennings, David (DNB00), from the Kibworth clan, covering also John Jennings (tutor) who was Anna Barbauld's maternal grandfather (and putting a name, Jane or sometimes Jenny, to her mother). Charles Matthews (talk) 10:33, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
s:Amory, Thomas (1701-1774) (DNB00). There is actually no separate article for Rochemont Barbauld. Looking around for him on the ODNB site, I did find various pupils at Palgrave Academy. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

dyk hook question

Could you clarify my issue with your dyk hook here? Thanks, —mattisse (Talk) 22:14, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

accusation of soapboxing

Returned this thread to your talkpage. I think it ends here, see below.

On this refdesk thread about the Chinese sex imbalance, you accused either the OP or the first responder (me) of

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I am happy to clarify my WP:SOAPBOX comment. It was not addressed to you. It followed directly the post by 12thdegree that I considered to be an unnecessary repeated attempt to attract attention to an issue about which they have strong feelings (and continued to rant anyway). Cuddlyable3 (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your prompt reply. I think "soapbox" is a harsh term in this case. Your state that your reasons are threefold: that the OP had asked a similar question earlier, that they have strong feelings about the issue, and that the question consisted of a rant. Let us take these in order.
1. It is permitted to re-ask a question. I think I have even done it myself, perhaps because I felt I had not expressed myself clearly enough in the first question, or because I realised, once having received a partial answer, that one aspect of the question needed to be teased out.
2. Strong feelings. When dealing with what might be millions of human deaths, I think strong feelings are understandable. I have strong feelings about the recent Haitian earthquake, and, for that matter, the loss of the Library of Alexandria. It doesn't seem realistic to ask our questioners to be devoid of emotion.
3. More to the point, was it a rant? With what language did the OP express this strong emotion? I quote:
If the number is 21 deaths out of 1000 and should be 16-17 deaths out of 1000 if there were no bias against female infants, then in terms of scale, the tragedy is one of the largest. Why is this not talked about more? Or are there reasons other than bias?
In other words, "If I have my facts X, Y, and Z correct, there is a large tragedy going on. Why is this not more news-worthy? Or are my facts correct? Am I leaving anything out of the equation?" I read this as intellectual puzzlement, based on what might be a human tragedy. A rant would be something more like:
There are millions of girls dying in China and nobody is doing anything! Why isn't there an article about it on Wikipedia? I cannot believe that there is such a cover-up of such a serious story! Your silence makes you complicit in GENOCIDE!!!
That is what I understand as a rant. I might even remove it. But more likely I would give even such intemperate language, which this OP did not use, the benefit of the doubt, and attempt a rational answer, or leave the field clear for others to do so. The guidelines at the top of each reference desk say to volunteers: "Be polite and
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WP:SOAPBOX is a policy. You may think it a harsh one and you may interpret my mere mentioning it to be an accusation. With respect to your opinion and request I am retracting the comment. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 18:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply
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I have no problems with the policy; it was your reference to it in this case that I thought harsh. Thank you for taking my comments into consideration in your decision to remove the comment. However, the absolute redaction makes the following comment (from the OP, as it happens) nonsensical, replying to something that is no longer there. It seems more helpful to the flow of discussion on the refdesk to keep the comment visible but struck through.
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Harsh or not, we must agree the policy cannot be struck out. I disagree that there is cause to conclude from a guideline as you do that something would be served by reopening my comment. Your ref. desk post containing the word "soapboxing" is intelligible enough as it stands. The OP's expression "I don't care about your opinion" is less than endearing but it also is not nonsensical. Thus I don't see that any relevant discussion flow needs mending. That's all. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I never suggested that the policy be struck out. My refdesk post ("I don't see your statement above as soapboxing") may be intelligible to regulars and contributors such as ourselves, but it hangs in mid-air for those not used to such discussions, namely for many of the readers and visitors for whom Wikipedia provides the library-like refdesk service. I could continue to analyse this, but as you say the matter ends here, I will raise it on the refdesk talkpage for more general views.
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Raised
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Newington Green

Thanks for thinking of me - this is an very interesting topic (my father used to go to the Poet's Road US synagogue in his youth) - someone really needs to produce a history of the Jewish community in this part of London but I am not aware of anything mnuch above the anecdotal level. The English Heritage book 'Jewish heritage in England' alas only deals with buildings still in existence. Btw I was just looking at Paul following Guido Fawkes's attack on him, so made my trivial correction. Looks as if Guido has something particular up his sleeve about this fellow. Best regards, --Smerus (talk) 19:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for both. I've followed up the Guido info by adding to
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AfD nomination of Bollocks

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Hello!

Hello there,

BrainyBabe, my user name is Ericthebrainiac and I am currently single. I am looking for somebody with a brain like mine who enjoys soap operas, the occasional fast food, music and knowledge. I just want to know if you want to go on a date with me because I do love soaps, knowledge, fast food and music. Ericthebrainiac (talk) 14:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply
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If you are my type, please talk to me on my talk page and maybe we would get together online or where I live in Edna, Texas. Ericthebrainiac (talk) 14:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you live? Ericthebrainiac (talk) 14:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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AfD nomination of Lady

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A question.

hi. First of all, forget any typing mistake. I have been translating to Spanish Bride kidnapping which , by the way, it´s a very interesting article and a great job (with all the sources and stuff...) and I was wondering if you (as one of the main editors of the article) or someone has consider to promote it to the category of good article or (who knows) a featured article. I appreciate your attention and I apologize again for my bad (written) english. Thanks a lot and I wait for your answer.--Wikiléptico (talk) 00:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hola, buenas dias. Your English is much better than my Spanish, and I also am a poor typist, so you have no need to apologise. I am flattered that you consider
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Thanks I'll follow your advise.Of course in case of any question I will take advantage of your generous offer. Bb.--Wikiléptico (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Thanks for your quick vandal-fighting

Sorry for the slow response. I've added the page to my watchlist. However, please note my login patterns are very irregular and I often won't be there to revert vandalism to it.

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Shelley

The Wandering Jew.

The Wandering Jew, A Poem in 4 Cantos by Percy Bysshe Shelley. Published for the Shelley Society by Reeves and Turner, London 1877.

I left a note about this on the Shelley talk page. I see that you've done some editing of the Shelley page, so maybe you can fit this widely unknown poem into the article somewhere. If not, I'll get around to it at some point.-- I Never Cry 01:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invitation, but, having looked at the page, there isn't realy anything I can add.
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That's cool. I added it to the Major Works section.-- I NEVER CRY 02:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unitarianism

Bravo—you have made an effective contribution here. I perceived the waffle in this and related articles but (as a mere infidel) could not really face sorting it out. I'm almost resolved from now on to stay well clear of articles about theology and

Hong Kong films! Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 02:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. Fortunately I have never been addicted to Hong Kong films!
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BBC patrol

Hi BrainyBabe, nice to meet you at the BL yesterday. I've added the idea of the Radio 4 patrol to the WikiProject BBC talk page if you want to chime in on it. It's a funny idea, but it could actually be pretty cool. —Tom Morris 11:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK issue

Problem at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Essex_Street_Chapel Johnbod (talk) 00:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See the DYK rules - the first part of the hook needs a ref (maybe 2) right by the fact. The general refs are ok, but a bit messy - don't you have page numbers? If the ODNB was in refs, you could shorten those ones a lot. There's a bare url. Sort the bare url & the hook refs & I'll pass it. Johnbod (talk) 15:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All paragraphs now have sourcing. There are no page numbers for the main source book, which dates from 1959 but has been uploaded to the organisation's website, each chapter on a separate page. You say the first part of the hook needs a ref or two. It reads: "... that Essex Hall, where in 1774 Theophilus Lindsey established the first such congregation in England, still serves as the headquarters for the the British Unitarians?" In the first History subsection, I've added an explanatory sentence with ref ("This was the first time in England that a church had formed around explicitly Unitarian beliefs", which summarises the end of chapter 2) to flesh out what I'd thought was clear within the text, but perhaps wasn't explicit enough. That the building still serves as the denomination's HQ is covered at the end of the middle paragraph of the "Essex Hall" section. Also, I've been able to copyedit out the 2nd "the", which I wasn't able to do earlier today. Hope this is up to scratch.
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Template help

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I am stuck with the formatting of

talk) 13:38, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply
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The easy answer is to avoid cite templates and ref names & just use "Smith, p.5" with the book in a "references" section. You are not supposed to mix the cite templates & ref names anyway. Johnbod (talk) 13:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I was trying to get to grips with the cite template, but maybe I'd better avoid it. Thanks anyway, and thanks for your interest in my DYK attempt.
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DYK for Essex Street Chapel

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Editathon

Assuming you were there, would you like to write me a short piece about it for the Wikimedia UK newsletter? Charles Matthews (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. I was thinking, what could I write for you? I had post-flu, and only dragged myself to the BL for the final couple of hours, at which only one curator was present. I had a couple of pleasant conversations, but wasn't really "there". Sorry to be unhelpful this time.
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Barnstar for flawless edits

The Editor's Barnstar
For flawless editing in the
Biblical Unitarianism article. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply
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You are too kind. I went back and found a few more things to tweak!
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Brenda Colvin

Hi BrainyBabe and thanks for starting that page! I'm guessing you too heard the Women's Hour bit today about her biography and started the page.

I'm doing a PhD on a mildly related subject (mentioned on R4) and took to browsing as I was listening. I gathered a load of information but don't have time to synthesize and add it to the page, I am happy to send you the links, and even all the text, if you have the time to do it?? (As someone with a degree in garden history, I was surprised there wasn't already a page for Colvin, but there you go...!) If you do want it, just let me know how to get it to you. (I'll try to remember to check back here for reply!) Cheers! --gobears87 (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are correct that I was listening to
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Hi, was trying to keep it short. :o) The PhD topic is on my user page - it's reconstruction of blitzed cities in Britain post WWII. I'll go ahead with the links as suggested (talk page), which will also answer where the text is from. BTW one is embedded text but I managed to get it from the source info, so sharing it is easiest by email or some pm method. The amount? So far the text I've collected is 3 pgs at font 12pt... When you say "the Colvin articles", what does that include? (I was wondering if Brenda was related to the architectural historian Sir Howard Colvin, but have not managed to find out.) --gobears87 (talk) 14:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By "the Colvin articles", I meant those related to Brenda's ilustrious lineage. I've brought them together now at
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Ah, thanks - didn't see the Colvin stuff on your userpage :) And thanks again for getting the Brenda ball rolling! --gobears87 (talk) 15:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No one would have seen the Colvin (Brenda or family) on my userpage till I moved the articles from private-ish sandbox to very public mainspace! I'm glad you find the Brenda article of interest. Any improvements you or your colleagues can make would be very welcome.
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Ping

There are a few open issues on the Lesbian talk page, including the Djuna Barnes book. I lost my place in our discussion. Can you clarify what you'd like to see as an ideal in the literature section? Thanks. Talk:Lesbian#Literature_addition --Moni3 16:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

I'm trying to get my head around the contradiction you tagged in Newington Green. I know it's badly worded and doesn't exactly scan well, but is there an actual contradiction? Can you have a look, and leave a note on the talk page for me? Cheers WormTT 14:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll respond on the article talkpage.
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On collaboration

You know, I shouldn't really have to do this, because it's like praising someone for doing the job they're getting paid to do, but I appreciate that we worked together to improve the content of the Lesbian article. Too often I feel like I'm forced to WP:OWN an article because the editors who propose changes refuse to read sources or become familiar with Wiki policies. This worked and I'm grateful for it. Thanks. --Moni3 (talk) 15:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a gracious note, and I appreciate it. I sometimes wonder if I ought to bother trying to work on articles that appear to be owned; this interaction boosts my faith that it is possible, and can be productive. Even people who get paid like praise! And this is the never-ending job we all *aren't* being paid to do.
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Courtesy notice

Hello. In the past, you expressed interest in the topic of Agora and the use of critical SPS over at Talk:Agora_(film)#Critique_of_film. If you are still interested, please join the discussion over at: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Agora_and_SPS. Thank you. Viriditas (talk) 10:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried the links you suggest, but can't find the discussion, sorry.
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Durning-Lawrence

Thanks. Yes, I saw your page on the Lawrence family. I used the sources. Very helpful! Paul B (talk) 16:12, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel and others in Sussex

Hi BrainyBabe, and thanks for your note (and the additions to the article). Sussex has quite a few Unitarian churches, almost all of which are listed buildings and hence definitely notable in the WP sense: I plan to write articles at some point on the ones in Horsham (soon - it's "brewing" in a userpage sandbox), Ditchling and Lewes, and possibly Hastings if I can find enough sources (that one isn't listed). I am quite interested in writing about Sussex Nonconformist places of worship in general: see the redlinks in the template I created for an idea of what I plan to write in the future! I took a photo of Croydon Unitarian Church a couple of weeks ago as well when I had some time to hang around there, but it's not as architecturally interesting as some of the others. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! Where is this template of which you speak? You mention sources. There is the Unitarian History Society, and presumably parallel organisations for other denominations. They exist to answer queries such as yours. Good luck! I don't have any particular access to sources, but I might jump in to help with article flow, as I did for Billingshurst (which I kept wanting to call Billingsgate by mistake).
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That website looks useful as a starting point for sources – thanks. Copyediting/prose checking is always gladly welcomed; I tend to write quite spontaneously, focusing on a few sentences at a time, and a natural flow is not always easy to maintain. The template is here: Template:Sussex Nonconformism (and is used on the bottom of the appropriate articles). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Society for Promoting the Knowledge of the Scriptures

Thanks for your interest in Robert Tyrwhitt. I have just started a related article on the SPKS; which is not a major institution, but comes up at a certain point on the timeline. As with Theological Repository which I was looking at last week, identifying contributors and then giving them articles where possible (e.g. from the DNB) is a decent way to get some of the historical background. The reference I'm using from Thomas Belsham has given me enough of a start to get an article together; but I certainly wasn't able to identify all of the members of the Society he mentions. Any input you have on this issue would be welcome. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this. I'm not sure I have any particular input. It is so easy to get tangled in the names! Is SPKS part of, or connected to, The Unitarian Society for promoting Christian Knowledge and the Practice of Virtue by the Distribution of Books? (See
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hey 'babe

I'm the guy whose ancestry you corrected on the wikipedia reference desk :) I agree with your correction, in the paragraph I used the word in error, not once, but twice, and after having otherwise edited the paragraph and reread it a couple of times. do you want to know a dirty little secret? you're the only person to ever have anything to point out to me in my diction (i.e. something real and genuine), which I take away and make my own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.156.225.56 (talk) 21:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello OP. It is a common error, and I can well believe that it might be overlooked in proof-reading. Thank you for saying my correction has given you something to take away. Maybe you can pass on the favour one day!
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Mary Wollstonecraft family tree

I fixed the Mary Wollstonecraft family tree. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. It appears that some of the information in the Claire Clairmont article may be incorrect, however, especially regarding Charles Gaulis. https://sites.google.com/site/maryjanesdaughter/home/mary-jane-s-daughter has a detailed explanation. Apparently Charles Gaulis was actually Charles Clairmont's father, but not Claire Clairmont's. Kaldari (talk) 06:14, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your prompt attention. I have added somewhat to that article. I wonder if Tory peer
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Margaret King

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DYK for Margaret King