User talk:Comfortable East

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-- 15:22, Saturday, June 11, 2022 (

I've just looked up since in the Oxford English Dictionary. This gives time-related definitions, of course, but also "Because that; seeing that; inasmuch as". The earliest example it provides for the latter is "Go to, let it be,..syns it lyketh so." (Presumably what in modern spelling would be "Go to, let it be,.. since it liketh so.") That's from the first edition (1540) of The Comedye of Acolastus, a translation by John Palsgrave of Acolastus, a play in Latin by Wilhelm Gnapheus = Gulielmus Gnapheus = Wilhelm Fullenius. So since has been used with the meaning of "because" for at least 462 years, and thus is a well-established item of English vocabulary. Use it with pride! -- Hoary (talk) 02:07, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is very interesting! But, I'm more impressed by your ability to go deep into the matter. The other editor did acknowledge that the two words can be used interchangeably, and gave the rationale of 'reducing ambiguity' between causal or temporal use of the word (since). I mean, I can give a counter-argument that I was using it indeed in “causal” sense, but, since they are also not wrong, I don't want to make them upset over a subjective matter.

I will continue to use “since” with pride, though!

Wishing you a good day! Comfortable East (talk) 07:37, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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