User talk:Heubergen

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It's not a matter of whether she's actually notable. The deleted versions were all purely promotional and sourced only to her own website with nothing independent to support the claims made. The repeated spamming led to protection for the draft and article spaces. The drafts were created by User:Tegan Marie, and later by an obvious sock puppet posting the same nonsense.

I'm a little concerned why a new user should want to take on this article, and I have to ask if you have any

Also read the following regarding writing an article

• you must provide
  independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that she meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to her or an affiliated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what she claims or interviewing her. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls. I note, for example, that this ref you suggested is just a promo for forthcoming tour with no other content, and this
  is self-written, also a promo, and the Washington Post is an interview with her manager
• you must write in a
  non-promotional
  tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic.
• there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
• you must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in
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  ; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Answered on the talk page of the user. Heubergen (talk) 11:47, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarification, I did think you seemed too competent for a new user, which prompted the COI request. In the circumstances I've unprotected

Draft:Tegan Marie for now and added it to my watchlist. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:06, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply

]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:

This submission appears to

independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability

of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to
  Draft:Tegan Marie
  and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to
  db-self
  }}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and
  will be deleted
  .
• If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DGG ( talk ) 00:22, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Heubergen! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DGG ( talk ) 00:22, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:

This submission provides insufficient

guide to writing better articles

for information on how to better format your submission.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Bio section needs to be organized as it is confusing how many debuts she has had with Opry. She should meet

WP:MUSICBIO

#1, for all the coverage the newspapers are giving her despite not even having a charted single or album yet.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to
  Draft:Tegan Marie
  and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to
  db-self
  }}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and
  may be deleted
  .
• If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:35, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Thank you for your message. The first rating was based on an assumption that the ratings for the other projects were correct. It is obviously close to being a B class article; if it had a picture of the performer a B rating would be justified.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 19:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks! --Heubergen (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]