User talk:Iskandar323
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Your efforts and smooth co-ordination with other editors have helped in improving in various articles, such as the Wahhabism article. Thank you for the good quality work you have done and keep it up to improve more articles!
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I have sent you a note about a page you started
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 00:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
1RR at "Jews"
These edits 1 and 2 at Jews are a violation of 1RR. kindly self-revert or you may be reported to arbitration enforcement. Eladkarmel (talk) 14:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 14:54, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]
- This seems like a pattern of nationalist edits directed to undermine Wikipedia's sharing of information regarding the dominant understanding of Jewish peoplehood and origin in Israel (Palestine).
- You should adhere to Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. PresidentCoriolanus (talk) 08:25, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2023 (UTC)]
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Hudson
I have re-added the sections with new citations. I think this resolves the citation issue? Thmymerc (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:ANI, 4 Sep 2023
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Kaalakaa (talk) 08:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
AE Notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at
- If there was a Darwin Award for the end of Wikipedia editing careers, this AE filing would win easily. I do feel genuinely sad for the outcome though – Tombah started off open-minded but changed a lot during the last year. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)]
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Nomination of List of targeted killings by Israel for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of targeted killings by Israel until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.
Longhornsg (talk) 17:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Removal of messages from your talk page
Heya, you've removed multiple messages claiming they are "automatic", all about dispute resolutions.
You seem to be involved in a rather large amount of disputes, all manually started by multiple contributors/editors, don't you think it is relevant and shouldn't be removed? I know my message wasn't automatic. Bar Harel (talk) 15:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 16:44, 15 September 2023 (UTC)]
Suicide Bombings -> Bombings
Hello. Regarding your rapid fire mass edits of the following pages (listed below), on what criteria or critical grounds are you justifying your changing of these event descriptions from “suicide bombings” to “bombings”?
- Karkur junction bus bombing
- Maxim restaurant bombing
- July 2005 HaSharon Mall bombing
- 2008 Dimona bombing
In the
Mistamystery (talk) 21:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Just cleaning up some archival material with overly lengthy titles, in line with both Iskandar323 (talk) 06:53, 17 September 2023 (UTC)]
Page moves
Given that you have previously had a block for breaching an Arab-Israeli content ban (which obviously no longer applies), you cannot possibly believe that making controversial and undiscussed page moves in that topic area is a good idea. Just don't go there. You'll be in jail again in no time if you carry on like that. Schwede66 06:32, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 07:49, 17 September 2023 (UTC)]
- Stay away from this topic area. And if you can’t, then start a discussion before you move pages. Quite simple, really. Schwede66 08:02, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 08:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC)]
- Well, why don't I watchlist your talk page (no further pings needed) and if I get the impression that it's time for an ANI discussion regarding another topic ban, we'll continue that discussion there? You give me the strong impression that's where this is headed. Schwede66 08:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 08:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)]
- It looks like that editor has turned your move into a dab page. It seems there were two events of the same nature at the same place in the same year. That seems a good reason to disambiguate. If the resulting or chosen title isn't perfect, I encourage you to start a discussion on that article's talk page. Please let me know if there are issues coming out of that discussion that you can't resolve yourselves; I'd be happy to weigh in. Schwede66 09:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Well, why don't I watchlist your talk page (no further pings needed) and if I get the impression that it's time for an ANI discussion regarding another topic ban, we'll continue that discussion there? You give me the strong impression that's where this is headed. Schwede66 08:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Stay away from this topic area. And if you can’t, then start a discussion before you move pages. Quite simple, really. Schwede66 08:02, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Yeshivat Beit Yisrael bombing
On 15 September, you moved "
- Ok, sure, I've moved it back and will precede with an RM approach. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:08, 18 September 2023 (UTC)]
Category:Right-wing politicians in Israel has been nominated for deletion
Category:Right-wing politicians in Israel has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Third opinion in the ongoing content dispute at the Foreign Policy of Bashar al-Assad
Hello
Your recent edits to List of Palestinian suicide attacks
WP:CTOP applies to this article. In light of your edits listed below (made immediately following the failure of your nomination to delete the article entirely), am concerned they are in violation of ARBPIA procedure, as well as contentious topics policy, WP:NPOV, WP:MNA, WP:EQ, WP:DE, and WP:GAMING.
List of edits
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It reeks of bad faith editing, especially when it was made clear a renewed effort is being made to clean the article up and revise it to standards. Making numerous deletions in succession makes remedying any legitimate concerns you have a hindrance given arbitration rules on reverting edits, which may run you up against system gaming accusations.
These are contentious topics. WP:BOLD and WP:JUSTDOIT doesn’t necessarily apply so cleanly here as it does on regular topics. Recommend reverting edits, engaging in good faith suggestions (like missing citation tags or talk page suggestions), and let the process take its expected course with necessary consensus (as arbitration procedures demand).
If you feel this comment and above recommendations are in haste, I will be happy to request attention from an uninvolved administrator or ARBIA administrators to chime in. Mistamystery (talk) 06:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 06:55, 25 September 2023 (UTC)]
- Verifiability is not the issue at hand here. There are sources and external links on the page that back up the entire list, suicide attacks during the 2nd intifada are well documented and attested, and there is no reasonable doubt around any of the attacks (previously) listed on the page. Just because a citation is missing, doesn’t mean you blank sections, most especially on ARBPIA pages.
- I didn’t make these rules up. It’s not up to me what is and isn’t in violation of contentious topics policy, and I’m trying to abide by general Wikipedia policy and recommendation by going directly to you and speaking respectfully before raising the issue anywhere else.
- Again, if you feel that I am incorrect in my understanding of contentious topic guidelines, I am happy to seek the guidance of the arbitration page and/or an uninvolved administrator. Otherwise, I respectfully ask that you speak to me in a kind and neutral tone. I don’t need to “back away” from raising legitimate concern as the platform insists we do. This is a house we all share, and must be kind to each other. Mistamystery (talk) 07:14, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 07:25, 25 September 2023 (UTC)]
- Appreciate the explanation. And please be assured all things were said with kindness and propriety in mind.
- Regarding the edit concern, I recently ran into a multi-user, multi-revert incident on a 1RR ARBPIA page, which subsequently created a cascade of issues (including sudden editor hyper-sensitivity) that really got in the way of easily addressing the issue.
- I understand its within editor rights to blank (seemingly) unsourced content, but I do think it’s important to advocate for other approaches for dealing with this problem (most especially given that there is so much unsourced - but ultimately valid - content all over the platform).
- Mistamystery (talk) 07:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Editors have different approaches. Sure, I don't delete every bit of unsourced content I see without questions. I often tag material instead. But unsourced lists are a particular plague on Wikipedia, and I have little sympathy for them. This sort of content simply falls foul of my more deletionist leanings. However, you'll note that I didn't remove any entries with linked articles, even though those entries are also lack technically unsourced, in the sense of content that cannot be verified by in-line citations located on the page itself. As for the other material, most of which has been both unsourced and unlinked for more than a decade, well ... time's up. And the list that remains is a more reasonable and digestible piece of content as a result. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:15, 25 September 2023 (UTC)]
- Editors have different approaches. Sure, I don't delete every bit of unsourced content I see without questions. I often tag material instead. But unsourced lists are a particular plague on Wikipedia, and I have little sympathy for them. This sort of content simply falls foul of my more deletionist leanings. However, you'll note that I didn't remove any entries with linked articles, even though those entries are also lack technically unsourced, in the sense of content that cannot be verified by in-line citations located on the page itself. As for the other material, most of which has been both unsourced and unlinked for more than a decade, well ... time's up. And the list that remains is a more reasonable and digestible piece of content as a result.
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Gideon
Hi, Iskandar323; you mentioned here that I might consult you as we progressed at
Edit request
Hi there, given your membership to WikiProject Palestine, I wondered if you may be so kind as to incorporate (some or all of) my suggested edits here and here?
Happy to discuss. All the best. Yr Enw (talk) 13:50, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Article restoration
Would you please restore this article? Thanks. 39.34.179.108 (talk) 08:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Caesarea National Park moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Caesarea National Park. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Rkieferbaum (talk) 17:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Re'im music festival massacre
You cannot seriously believe that POV changing the title of
In the name of collaboration, not several weeks ago you graciously agreed with me to go through the RM process for article in this contentious area. Not only me, but @Schwede66: also brought this up to you, and you committed to use the RM process. Please stop your unilateralism nd hold up your commitments. Longhornsg (talk) 07:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 09:32, 9 October 2023 (UTC)]
I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, Iskandar323. Thank you for your work on
Thank you for writing the article on Wikipedia! I genuinely appreciate your efforts in creating the article on Wikipedia and expanding the sum of human knowledge in Wikipedia. Wishing you and your family a great day!
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 13:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Can you keep an eye on an article temporaily.
In article Zainab Abbas, there is new unconfirmed rumors about her leaving India during the world cup. Some are adding a controversy section which seems to be gross NPOV. So can you confirm or whether the info is correct to put. The details may be in violation Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. 182.183.0.254 (talk) 13:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Your "vote"
The strike wasn't on the border between Israel and Lebanon, it was in the Sheba farms, between Lebanon and the occupied Golan Heights. Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:39, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 16:49, 10 October 2023 (UTC)]
WP:Synth
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- @Iskandar323 (talk) 11:25, 12 October 2023 (UTC)]
- HRW repeated the same again yesterday after the power cut off. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:28, 12 October 2023 (UTC)]
- Yes but it falls under the subheading of Israeli War Crimes if it were in some other section it'd be fine. This is in essence original research. If what you're saying is true then HRW should post a statement shortly accusing Israel of war crimes at which point we can write in an uncontroversial entry in the section, but until that point, why crystal ball it and try and infer their opinion? Alcibiades979 (talk) 11:28, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 11:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)]
- @
- HRW repeated the same again yesterday after the power cut off.
Impact of the occupation
I'm trying to find an article on the Impact of the Israeli occupation on Palestinian people, but I can't find it. Am I not looking carefully? Or should an article like that needs to be created? VR talk 21:24, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
WP:NOTFORUM
Please refrain from using talk pages to express your personal opinion about the subjects of articles. This is especially true for Arab–Israeli conflict topics and American politics topics. I understand that these are difficult topics, but that's why it's important to maintain a constructive dialogue without posting provocative political comments. Edits like this, this, and this are disruptive. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Those comments are on matters of weight and NPOV that are relevant. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)]
When israel is created
Where is this part :
The State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948, in the aftermath of World War II and the Holocaust. Its establishment was met with both international support and regional opposition. Almost immediately, neighboring Arab states, in rejection of the partition plan, initiated the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Despite facing initial challenges, Israel managed to survive and consolidate its territory. Subsequent conflicts, including the Six-Day War in 1967 and Adel8745 (talk) 09:49, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand the question here. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:53, 13 October 2023 (UTC)]
- You're referring to why this section has been deleted several times? I've also wondered the same thing... Homerethegreat (talk) 14:14, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Genocide against the Palestinians.
I thank you for your contributions to the recent discussion about this article and it’s being merged. However, I still support this issue having its own page. Read my thoughts if you wish on the Apartheid in Israel talk page, the section entitled ‘This merge is repellent’. What is your opinion and how can we facilitate the matter once again having its own page? Scientelensia (talk) 12:39, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I believe you should refer Muboshgu to the appropriate board, but that’s only my opinion. I wonder if they have been engaging in this behaviour for a long time and whether, if so, that could be brought up Scientelensia (talk) 15:56, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Your reverts
Two days ago, you reverted a
- I don’t believe it was POV content. Read the source and reconsider perhaps. Also, read my statement. I’m sure Iskandar323 has justification for their actions. You should also seek consensus on the talk pages for the removal of content which it seems most people agree on keeping as they either restored it or did not delete it. Scientelensia (talk) 15:06, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- The edits about which you complain seem useful and relevant to me. Scientelensia (talk) 15:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 15:25, 17 October 2023 (UTC)]
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 16:30, 17 October 2023 (UTC)]
- It was added, then it was reverted. It is not long-standing content and is objected to on POV basis, both on Biden's page and Hochul's. The complaint on Talk:Kathy Hochul is about the content itself, as well as the "controversy section" framing. I'll note that HJ Mitchell agrees with me. You would both do well with a refresher on what is and is not POV. Having a RSP source does not absolve an editor for writing up something in a biased manner. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- How was it POV?
- What was biased about it, as the source makes it clear that it is true?
- Why are you violating the WP:1RR restrictions set at WP:ARBPIA and expecting not be punished? I strike this comment.-later
- Why do you attempt to punish me on arbitration pages when you make perhaps wrong edits?
- Scientelensia (talk) 15:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- The content you added to Hochul's article is accurate and sourced, but specifically presented to show Hochul in a negative light, with a quote from a Palestinian activist to drive it home. It does not present the "other side" at all and makes a big deal out of a few words that she said without context. Bias in the NYT isn't relevant here, bias amongst Wikipedia editors is. Kathy Hochul's article is not on a 1RR restriction. And I am not attempting to "punish" you; someone else brought you to arbitration enforcement and I had relevant info to add to the discussion. They'll decide if any sanctions are necessary, not me. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ok. How could the other side be added then? Scientelensia (talk) 16:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- The content you added to Hochul's article is accurate and sourced, but specifically presented to show Hochul in a negative light, with a quote from a Palestinian activist to drive it home. It does not present the "other side" at all and makes a big deal out of a few words that she said without context. Bias in the NYT isn't relevant here, bias amongst Wikipedia editors is. Kathy Hochul's article is not on a 1RR restriction. And I am not attempting to "punish" you; someone else brought you to arbitration enforcement and I had relevant info to add to the discussion. They'll decide if any sanctions are necessary, not me. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 16:37, 17 October 2023 (UTC)]
- I've restored the formatting changes. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've opened a discussion on the content. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)]
- On a talk page? Scientelensia (talk) 21:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- On the Iskandar323 (talk) 21:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)]
- Ah, thanks. Scientelensia (talk) 21:17, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- On the
- On a talk page? Scientelensia (talk) 21:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've opened a discussion on the content.
- I've restored the formatting changes. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- It was added, then it was reverted. It is not long-standing content and is objected to on POV basis, both on Biden's page and Hochul's. The complaint on Talk:Kathy Hochul is about the content itself, as well as the "controversy section" framing. I'll note that HJ Mitchell agrees with me. You would both do well with a refresher on what is and is not POV. Having a RSP source does not absolve an editor for writing up something in a biased manner. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for Issam Abdallah
On 18 October 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Issam Abdallah, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, Iskandar323. Thank you for your work on
I have reviewed the article. I cannot see the deleted article from the 2011 AfD but this article appears to be acurate based on the references. It appears from the previous AfD that the article was called out as synth and OR; I do not see that issue in this article. Well done, thanks for the article.
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Lightburst (talk) 15:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 20:57, 20 October 2023 (UTC)]
Iskandar323 I don't know whether you are kidding around or you seriously thought that article was going to fly as it was, but I don't think a period of international tension is the right time to be stoking the flames on Wikipedia. I find sectarian conflicts extremely distasteful but I am not going to avoid the topic as many will do. Can you explain why the article only expresses one point of view and why it often does so in the voice of Wikipedia stating opinions as facts? —DIYeditor (talk) 11:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- The timing is questionable too. We've just had a discussion (I think it was yesterday) surrounding the 1948 exodus on the Israel article. Homerethegreat (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you mean by the article "flying" - the way that Wikipedia works is that someone creates a page and other people edit it. That's the process. Good for you for getting involved. No page ever "flies" in the very first form that it initially emerges in. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)]
Concerns about new article
Besides the severe OR issues, Nazism in Palestinian society was written almost entirely by an editor who is not extended confirmed. What is the proper procedure to follow in that case? (t · c) buidhe 04:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 06:38, 22 October 2023 (UTC)]
- I draftified the article and left a note on talk explaining the OR issues.
- (t · c) buidhe 06:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @WP:ARBECR "Non-extended-confirmed editors may not create new articles, but administrators may exercise discretion when deciding how to enforce this remedy on article creations. Deletion of new articles created by non-extended-confirmed editors is permitted but not required." Selfstudier (talk) 10:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)]
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ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. —DIYeditor (talk) 19:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Advice
Mate, no point arguing with editors of such strong POV at AFD. I would advise taking a step back and letting it be. starship.paint (RUN) 09:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 10:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)]
Scythians article size
Several months ago at Talk:Scythians, you and Nikkimaria pointed out at the article is absurdly large. The person mainly responsible for the size of the article is Antiquistik. Although Antiquistik acknowledged your concerns at the talk page, but they continue to make sweeping, enormous changes to the article, which add over 69,000[4] or even over 150,000[5] characters to the article. So this is a problem that is getting worse with time. Furthermore, their edits seem to carelessly remove content, which is difficult to spot owing to the sheer size od the edits.
I am thinking Antiquistik should be advised to make their edits in piece-meal fashion, and to focus more on splitting the article and removing
Talk Page Etiquette
You have been around long enough that you should know that starting the third new section on a talk page on a topic is considered poor etiquette. And you also knew there was an existing RFC on the talk page on the same subject.
Would you consider removing or merging your needlessly duplicative talk page section?
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)]
Nomination of Al-Ansar Mosque airstrike for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Ansar Mosque airstrike until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.
Longhornsg (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
A Letter from a New Editor
Hello, my name's Vero, and I started editing on Wikidata.
I often monitor the discussion on Israel-Gaza War pages and saw the horror of discussion there. I saw your arguments on NPOV page regarding Israel-Gaza War, and decided to share with you my concern, and perhaps requesting your opinion, suggestion or even encouragement. I recently started to edit on Wikidata, and noticed that the speed and amount of items relating to the side of Israel on the war is much faster than the documented items relating to the side of Palestine (which often labeled as "the side of the terrorists").
Take two example, from Kfar Aza "massacre" and Al-Ahli Arab Hospital "explosion". I noticed how fast certain editors add the item, and gave them tendentious descriptions, translating them to various languages, and then deemed them as truth only because "much of the sources said that" which pointed to Western (I have no word other than that) oriented media. Each time someone pointed out other sources, such as Al-Jazeera, it got shut down by words like "they are terrorist supporting media, the X government paid them, etc." Perhaps you know this issue too well. I also noticed there are no new items or article regarding the update of each airstrike or major attack from the troops, even they passed the editing table of "reliable" media. In other places, I saw rather comical debate on how some media once portrayed Nelson Mandela and his organization as terrorist during their war against apartheid regime.
I often asked myself, before contributing on the issue, "will this contribution make difference, or is it only will be reverted by other angry editor, which ended up reporting me to the Administrators' Noticeboard?". I care because Wikipedia shown on the top of the search result, even my tech blind family member read Wikipedia, said, "the editors on Wikipedia had prolong debate on what those news editors said, so perhaps they already given more add values." How do you survive those debate? And accepting that an article or an item will remain "biased" in your POV judgement?
I think right now, Wikipedia and the rest of WMF Projects are being tested against their own policies and rules. After reading how you argued in the talk-pages, I thank you for doing what I could not. Thank you for allowing me to rant in your talk-pages. I am sorry if it is a waste of space or time.
Good luck, ma'a tamanniyat bi at tawfiq wa an najah. Verokraft-Altexnandes (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have been worried about skew as well. The reason I started on this (probably very stressful) mission is that comparing the coverage in English and Arabic news media is like watching two completely different wars. Irtapil (talk) 15:34, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Massacres in the State of Palestine
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 21:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Can you help me completing the Wikidata Item for your new article?
Hi, @
Please address inaccuracies in introduction of Hamas page
Hello Iskander, I'm trying to use this avenue to contact you about a much-needed change on the page concerning Hamas. I am a college student, and my professor made an off-hand comment the other day about how Wikipedia classifies Hamas as the "governing force of the Gaza strip." She is a doctor of world government and strongly asserted that this could not be further from the truth. Hamas is, simply through fact, a terrorist group targeting civilians. They do not provide for the needs of the Palestinian people or protect the sovereignty of the Gaza strip. This article has been getting increased traffic due to recent news cycles, and the assertion that Gaza and its people are governed at all, much less by a terror cell, is incredibly harmful. My account is far too new (this is a replacement for an old one I previously had) to make an edit on a protected page such as this. If you can change it to reflect Hamas' complete lack of involvement in the governing of Palestinians, I would be forever in your debt. Seithr33 (talk) 19:01, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Possible WP:Undue and WP:NPOV issue.
In Afnan Ullah Khan article, a user is including what appears to be against WP:Undue and WP:NPOV. Afnan tweeted a sensational tweet and then deleted with no major protest or any notable reaction. Yet the user Spartan Alpha want to include it. Can you check it. 182.183.46.44 (talk) 13:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Bureij
Unless I missed it, I can't find an article about the airstrikes on this camp- Appear to be three, 17 October killing 12, 2 November killing 15 and November, killing 20.
Make an article? Selfstudier (talk) 13:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 07:28, 24 November 2023 (UTC)]
- Very good, hard to keep up with all these strikes, hospitals, schools, UN sites, no end to it. Selfstudier (talk) 11:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 12:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)]
- @
- Very good, hard to keep up with all these strikes, hospitals, schools, UN sites, no end to it. Selfstudier (talk) 11:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Splitting discussion for Hardeep Singh Nijjar
An article that been involved with (Hardeep Singh Nijjar ) has content that is proposed to be removed and moved to another article (2023 Canada–India diplomatic crisis). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. 2402:A00:152:85D3:61B4:3AA2:6876:1690 (talk) 16:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
I am being accused of hate speech
Hi Iskandar323. I made the mistake of getting involved in the Israel-Palestine conflict again. Now the admin Ad Orientem is accusing me of hate speech on my talk page.
The "hate speech" in question: I claimed that Zionism is a genocidal ideology that goes against traditional Jewish ethics. It may be a bold claim, but I don't think it qualifies as hate speech. It's pretty unnerving to have an admin make this kind of accusation. —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 18:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Elbit - bit
On your edits - are you sure of this - I actually challenged it - and changed the heading - I am really not sure of the use of such loaded words as 'boycott' - cheers BeingObjective (talk) 15:12, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 15:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)]
Hi there. I pinged in you in this Talk section, but there apparently was a problem with pinging for at least one user who I also pinged, so I wanted to make sure you saw it. Please feel free to participate in the discussion. | Orgullomoore (talk) 18:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
hi, can you check my topic on Saladin's talk page and tell me what you think there please
it is the very last topic on the article Quirk1 (talk) 03:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- I added secondary sourcing, i have the most reliable primary sources too that i could follow up with secondary sourcing, if you could teach me the way I'd appreciate it. Could you also teach me how to mention or ping someone on a wiki article talk page? I tried many times and the text doesn't turn blue before i send it Quirk1 (talk) 06:55, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 07:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC)]
- @
A barnstar for your efforts
The Death Barnstar | ||
For your efforts contributing to the page Palestinian genocide accusation. Awarded by Cdjp1 (talk) 12:17, 12 November 2023 (UTC) |
- Even the barnstars have become morbid. Sigh. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)]
Nomination of Bushra al-Tawil for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bushra al-Tawil (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Dazzling4 (talk) 19:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- How do i hey notifications about a relevant interest subset of articles being up for deletion? Irtapil (talk) 15:54, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @Irtapil: One option would be to watch the relevant sorting page, e.g., Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Palestine. --Orgullomoore (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yep, that, or just watching the lists on the relevant WikiProjects. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:43, 15 November 2023 (UTC)]
2500 militants
In this edit You keep the same reference, but with different content? But you said in the edit notes that you copied it from somewhere eldest on Wiki?
One thing you removed from the prose was…
"Roughly 2,500
I wanted to keep the number of militants, but it looks like it's not even in that reference. Was that the reason you removed it? If so, I'll try to find a better reference that includes it.
There were some other bits too, but my computer is playing up and i need to re-start it. Irtapil (talk) 20:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Wrong claim
Regarding BilledMammal being recently booted out of another CT area for equally combative editing
- your claim is wrong. That was Brandmeister being sanctioned. Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive323#BilledMammal starship.paint (RUN) 08:27, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- My mistake. I've amended my statement given it was unresponded to. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:43, 16 November 2023 (UTC)]
Too quick to report!!! There are more construtive ways to deal with opinion differences
I am a not a very experienced wikipedian. But with considerable desire to improve Wikipedia. I think you are too quick to report issues to adminstrators with an ANI notice. If a community rule was not obeyed, you could simply post a message on my talk page pointing out the issue, and surely I would correct it, and learn to be a better wikipedian in the future. This would have been a much more constructive way to deal with opinion differences. GidiD (talk) 21:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Introduction of fake news
In your recent edit [6] to the "Re'im music festival massacre" page, you introduced fake news news from "The Cradle," a source with very poor reputation for fact-checking. The article you referenced [7] makes claims about a "mass Hannibal directive", citing and linking to an Haaretz article that doesn't mention 'Hannibal' - and searching on Haaretz website did not result in any articles making such a statement. As an experienced editor, you are expected to exercise greater discernment, particularly on such
]- I see that you have reverted the removal of the source. Please self revert. Marokwitz (talk) 07:18, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- The source is based on an interview with Haaretz and its audio, and the audio itself is available on the page in the embedded content, so the proof is rather in the pudding. I can't see the issue. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:19, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- This segment talks about shooting on the border fence, not related to Re'im festival. Even "The Cradle" doesn't make that connection. Marokwitz (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, that's a far better point. It is implied, but not directly stated. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- You said, "The proof is in the pudding." I interpret this as you having listened to the interview to verify it. Can you point out the moment where it is implied but not directly stated? Marokwitz (talk) 07:43, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 08:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- Besides the fact that no connection is implied by the retired pilot between the claims of the debunked Ha'aretz report and the shooting at escaping vehicles on the border, and the ex-pilot himself testifies that he doesn't have direct knowledge and is only speculating on what happened that day, the main issue is that "The Cradle" is a known fake news website. It mischaracterizes the content of the interview due to its very obvious bias and apologetic attitude toward Hamas. This underscores the importance of relying on reliable secondary sources, particularly in WP:REDFLAG areas. In my attempt to verify this article from the podcast, I found numerous misrepresentations. Relying on this source in the future would be unwise. Marokwitz (talk) 09:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- Take the source to Iskandar323 (talk) 09:06, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- I might do it if it's used again, should be very easy to prove. In the meantime, consider this a reminder that any claim requiring exceptional evidence, as outlined in WP:EXCEPTIONAL, necessitates multiple high-quality sources. I'm sure you understand how to recognize high-quality sources. Marokwitz (talk) 09:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- I might do it if it's used again, should be very easy to prove. In the meantime, consider this a reminder that any claim requiring exceptional evidence, as outlined in
- Take the source to
- Besides the fact that no connection is implied by the retired pilot between the claims of the debunked Ha'aretz report and the shooting at escaping vehicles on the border, and the ex-pilot himself testifies that he doesn't have direct knowledge and is only speculating on what happened that day, the main issue is that "The Cradle" is a known fake news website. It mischaracterizes the content of the interview due to its very obvious bias and apologetic attitude toward Hamas. This underscores the importance of relying on reliable secondary sources, particularly in
- @
- You said, "The proof is in the pudding." I interpret this as you having listened to the interview to verify it. Can you point out the moment where it is implied but not directly stated? Marokwitz (talk) 07:43, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, that's a far better point. It is implied, but not directly stated.
- This segment talks about shooting on the border fence, not related to Re'im festival. Even "The Cradle" doesn't make that connection. Marokwitz (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Changing of Star of David from blue to black
I've noticed that you've changed the Star of David from blue to black. Please note that blue is a color associated with Judaism and holds special importance in Jewish culture. Please familiarize yourself with the Talith, or Jewish prayer shawl, and the importance of the colour to Jews. Please note the colour is the theme colour in almost all Wikipedias. Homerethegreat (talk) 08:54, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Iskandar323 (talk) 09:04, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- I honestly cannot understand the reason behind this very strange change. Are you familiar with Tekhelet? The Israeli flag is derived from this Jewish tradition, not the other way around. You are creating unnecessary work for other editors, and I can't see how this is a constructive contribution. Marokwitz (talk) 09:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Discuss the content issue on the talk for the relevant content. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:15, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- I think I'd rather discuss it here because stating that there is something wrong with the Tekhelet Star of David and changing it in multiple pages may come off as offensive to some Jewish editors. The page that I sent you explains the cultural significance of the color. You should self revert those changes. Marokwitz (talk) 11:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well I would rather you didn't, and editors are entitled to ask others to stop badgering them on their talk pages. Start a discussion on any page, ping me, and I'll come. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:43, 22 November 2023 (UTC)]
- Well I would rather you didn't, and editors are entitled to ask others to stop badgering them on their talk pages. Start a discussion on any page, ping me, and I'll come.
- I think I'd rather discuss it here because stating that there is something wrong with the Tekhelet Star of David and changing it in multiple pages may come off as offensive to some Jewish editors. The page that I sent you explains the cultural significance of the color. You should self revert those changes. Marokwitz (talk) 11:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Discuss the content issue on the talk for the relevant content.
- I honestly cannot understand the reason behind this very strange change. Are you familiar with Tekhelet? The Israeli flag is derived from this Jewish tradition, not the other way around. You are creating unnecessary work for other editors, and I can't see how this is a constructive contribution. Marokwitz (talk) 09:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your efforts in defending the Palestinian cause in the past difficult month. These 'edit-wars' are just as important as any other field in trying to attain the rights of the Palestinians which have been denied. For too long, Wikipedia has been awash with inaccurate representation of this 'conflict' by users who don't understand what's going on and simply quote biased western media and likewise by outright zionists and islamophobes who try their utmost to take down anything that challenges their ideas.
I know that you are fighting something of a lone battle but you are setting an example to be emulated by generations to come. The impact of your presentation of the arguments is having a clear impact on the discourse. The combined reality of many people around the world taking this site's information as the unfiltered academic truth and the fact that the entire discourse has been presented with zionist agenda and meddling has had awful impacts on how so many people are brainwashed into believing zionist lies, especially among the middle classes. We all have a responsibility to challenge the narrative and I want to commend you for your brilliant efforts. Odin818 (talk) 02:44, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
Yakhini massacre
Why did you remove the
- Follow the link: it's been merged and redirects to another page now. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)]
Also what is AfD? you refer to it in this edit note but I only know AfD as a far right German political party and that doesn't fit the context. Irtapil (talk) 12:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Iskandar323 (talk) 08:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)]
Genghis Khan
My rewrite of the article is complete. I have opened a peer review; your comments would be very welcome. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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Apology for snippy
Hey, my comment to you was unnecessarily snippy, so I apologize. I know you are a good faith editor and a thoughtful contributor. The gall and tenacity of your comment offended me, but that's not an excuse for sniping, so I am sorry. Andre🚐 20:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 01:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)]
- It wasn't directed specifically at you, though it was a frustrated response to the conversation, but there was a thread on my talk about it and I think the thread was well-meaning and addressing a way it could have been interpretted, so I'm glad you didn't interpret it that way, but I did want to ensure that. Cheers. Andre🚐 01:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
List of engagements
Have you noticed any bias in what's being removed from the "list of engagements…" page? Or how many people are doing it? I thought the dispute was genuinely over the significance of events, but today someone removed multiple things that were all actions of the same side. There's also a trend of anything outside Gaza being removed? Irtapil (talk) 18:17, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Haven't been paying attention tbh, but the basic motivation for the removals, i.e. removing unlinked events due to lack of demonstrable notability, appears to have been relatively sound. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:12, 31 December 2023 (UTC)]
Updating Nir Yitzhak article
Thanks For adding the verification/no citation tags to this article. I’m happy to have them, although I thought the in use template was sufficient. As per the talk page I am currently reviewing the resources and should have them in place today or tomorrow. The point of this message isn’t actually the tags. I’m not sure that the people I pinged to the talk page (everyone who worked on the article or commented on the AfD) got pinged - did you? I suppose that many of those who wanted the articles deleted won’t want to work on the update. However I do want the article to be as balanced as possible, and for that I need any Palestinian or Hamas related perspective on the this specific attack if it exists. I don’t know where to access such material and have a language barrier. Are you able to assist with anything like this? As long as it balances the article, I’ll argue for it’s inclusion. Happy secular new year. Ayenaee (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I saw the in use template subsequently, but I think it is important to have unsourced content tagged as such regardless to ensure that there is no confusion for any readers that might pop by mid process. Not aware of being pinged ... At least not recently. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)]
- Thanks. That’s a solid reason for the tags. Would it be taken amiss if I put ‘please look at‘ messages on each participant’s talk pages, I don’t know why the pings didn’t work. Or should I leave well enough alone. I do really want to see if it’s possible to work together less adversarially - I’m not naive about the emotions IRL, but how do we stop the killing if we don’t do something different? Ayenaee (talk) 20:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Nakba denial
On 12 January 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nakba denial, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nakba denial is a form of historical negationism pertaining to the 1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nakba denial. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nakba denial), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Needlessly inflammatory
Your comment here could have been made without the unnecessarily inflammatory commentary. Please try to avoid wording like hawkish Western nations have obliged Israel with its smoke and mirrors by making a big song and dance about it and cutting vital aid in advance of any proper investigation.
There are ways to get that point across that won't raise the temperature of the discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 03:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)]
Sometimes poor arguments are best answered once
Because any closer will know it’s a poor argument. nableezy - 17:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Iskandar323 (talk) 17:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC)]
- when you repeat the same response to the same poor argument it looks like youre bludgeoning, and that makes you the problem. If a closer mistakenly gives such argument some weight then a move review can deal with it, but in the actual move request less is more for responses. nableezy - 18:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps. I am easily drawn, tis true. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC)]
- Perhaps. I am easily drawn, tis true.
- when you repeat the same response to the same poor argument it looks like youre bludgeoning, and that makes you the problem. If a closer mistakenly gives such argument some weight then a move review can deal with it, but in the actual move request less is more for responses. nableezy - 18:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Hello Iskandar323,
- The Arbitration Committee has decided to procedurally remove the case request Promoting Iranian government POV in Wikipedia? as invalid. Details can be found at the bottom of Special:Permalink/1214583983 § Promoting Iranian government POV in Wikipedia?: Case request removed.
- Best regards,
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Hi Iskandar323 :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)