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ARS Public School (3rd nomination)

You were a participant in the just closed 2nd nomination for deletion.
"She breaches."

White Whale. 'They pull you back in.' – Michael Corleone 7&6=thirteen () 00:15, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Why would you close Draft:Soviet Boris Yeltsin without having a discussion? Personally, I don't see how your position is "obvious" and think it would be better left as a comment instead of a close. I do agree with the nominator that I see no reason for keeping this as a redirect and would like to see it deleted, possibly as a vandalism-ish creation. -- Tavix (talk) 01:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Tavix: I just simply don't see any point in having a wasteful discussion. Keep it or delete it; there's utterly negligible difference and only one of those buttons is available to me. G6 it if you want, I won't complain. J947messageedits 18:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Its not eligible for G6. Maybe G3? It's not obviously vandalism though. Would you be willing to reopen the discussion so I can have the discussion that I think the redirect deserves? If you think discussion is wasteful you are free to not participate further. -- Tavix (talk) 21:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Inclusionist~enwiki/test5
RfD closure

Hi J947, I reverted your blanking of the redirect and closure of that RfD because nobody even suggested blanking as an option (hence no opposition) and because it was not even a day old. I don't see any basis for that close in policy and it reads to me as a left-field supervote of a discussion that has barely started, let alone drawn to a close. eviolite (talk) 03:43, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • (sorry, was making a response as you removed it – I think it's important) @
    the entire point of the close was as a left-field supervote. I would have preferred if one of the participants had disagreed with my close, given I chose an option which I assume would satisfy all. It's completely out of procedure, I acknowledge that, but I saw the discussion as pointless. J947messageedits 03:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Thank you all! :) J947messageedits 22:55, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello J947,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 814 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 864 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello J947,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages.

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Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 14036 articles, as of 02:00, 29 March 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at

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  2. ^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello J947,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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"Wikipedia:NECONOMIST" listed at Redirects for discussion

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello J947,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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Happy Sixth First Edit Day!

Hey, J947. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
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Plunket Shield lowest score

Regarding your recent edit on 2022–23 Plunket Shield season (which I'm about to overwrite with a slightly more clear explanation), I'm reasonably confident that Wellington's 167 run match aggregate is the lowest ever in the Plunket Shield. They did score lower in an 1887 first-class match, but the Plunket Shield did not exist until 1907, so it would still be a Plunket Shield record. Unfortunately I can't seem to find any actual database listing to confirm this, but many news reports (including NZC's own) refer to it as being a Plunket Shield record, so absence any evidence of a Plunket Shield match with a lower single-team aggregate it should be okay to go with. SellymeTalk 08:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Sellyme: thanks for that. I was surprised the lowest would be so high, but I suppose in the distant past where double collapses like so would've been more likely, there were fairly few Plunket Shield games played (and I forgot it wasn't created until last century). Thanks for your work creating this article by the way – I've kind of observed from sidelines that it's tough for us to keep up to date with all the cricket happening, so it's solid work! J947edits 08:58, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

South African cricket seasons

Hello. You're "updating " South African cricketer biogs with en dashes for seasons rather than hyphens, but in some cases – not all – you're introducing errors. For example, with Gerald Bond, you've updated "1929-30" to read "from 1929 to 1930", when the reference is to the single South African cricket season of 1929-30, which began in autumn 1929 and concluded in spring 1930. Fine to make it "1929–30", but the other is wrong. Johnlp (talk) 12:30, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Johnlp, thank you for telling me. I've corrected all the errors I could spot, and will be more careful. (I do know about cricket; simply haven't been examining the text close enough!) J947edits 22:18, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 01:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello J947,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous

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International cricket in 2024–25

Hello. I see you have initiated a discussion for possible deletion of this page. Request you to please look into International cricket in 2024 page as well. Thanks,Vikram Maingi (talk) 14:42, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I shouldn't have joined the discussion

I've just read the big red message on the discussion. I shouldn't have joined it 3 years ago! -St3095 (?) 13:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Auckland

Kia ora! I'm hoping to start up

WP:AUCK again as a more active project, so I thought I'd check in with everyone on the list who still edits. Are there any Auckland-related projects that you'd like to work on/currently working on? --Prosperosity (talk) 22:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • @Prosperosity: sorry I can't commit to that, no. You can remove me from that list; I don't think I ever was involved with that dormant WikiProject. J947edits 22:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No worries! I can take your name off the list. If you're interested in saying hi (even if you're not planning on editing Auckland articles!), we've restarted regular online and in-person meet-ups - the next one's on the 18th of March. --Prosperosity (talk) 22:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael King III

I wanted it to get deleted, not speedy deleted. Should I renominate the redirect, should the discussion get reopened, or something? ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 16:00, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Michael King III has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 10 § Michael King III until a consensus is reached. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 10:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, question for you.

In regards to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022 you stated that I really don't think this is something editors should decide; leave it to developers and more importantly ask the readers. And it is truly, IMO, too late now. Besides: I'll keep using old Vector, but is this change so horrible? How do you feel now, months after the discussion and with certain improvements added?

Before you answer this question, please read my user page to see why I am asking you this question. You do not have to answer this question at all if you wish. If you do answer this question, could you please state if you are okay with your username being used, possibly publicly? Thank you-- DisposableUser12345 (talk) 01:49, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @DisposableUser12345: Hi, happy to answer this (if only briefly). I've actually used the new skin on and off, much more than I thought I would, as much of my Wiki-work involves checking how the interface works for readers. I've found it pretty good, to be honest, in a large part due to unlimited width being enabled. In that sense, it's just a slightly modernised version of the old skin with a much improved search bar. It does disrupt with some internal workings, but that's only inevitable. The sense outside of Wikipedia seems to be that it's just a solid change, and in the end the RfC and general outrage from editors was a big kerfuffle over nothing, particularly given that the WMF were never really going to revert the change. But I am very grateful for the addition of the unlimited width option, which makes the new skin arguably a slight improvement over the old one for me. I'm fine with my username being used. Thanks, J947edits 04:02, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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You don't think Adult use is a misnomer for Legalization of non-medical cannabis in the United States?

  • There are no other things adults could use?
  • Adults only use marijuana in the US?

GMAFB! Talk about ham-fisted CSD patrol. You should do better. Toddst1 (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Toddst1: for the purposes of R3, a misnomer is an incorrect name. This is a correct name. It is ambiguous, yes, but that doesn't suddenly qualify it for R3. Instead, it should be sent to RfD. This is not the correct use of R3, which is intended only for things like "Unuted Srates". And even if it was a misnomer, which it isn't, it would hardly be considered implausible either, as it seems like it would be a pretty common search term. It's also likely to be kept at RfD. The opposite of what qualifies for uncontroversial speedy deletion. J947edits 21:07, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Cricket seasons

You're correcting hyphens to en dashes in various articles mentioning cricket seasons, which is mostly fine, but you need to watch that some of the corrections don't change the meaning. In Nummy Deane, for example, changing "From 1925–26" to "From 1925 to 1926" makes a different meaning: the first means "from the 1925–26 South African cricket season onwards for a period of several years", while the second means a shorter period covering a maximum of two calendar years. Cricket seasons outside the UK usually straddle two calendar years and the convention is to use a hyphen or en dash, rather than an oblique: northern hemisphere soccer seasons tend to be similar. I'm afraid you have to read the context, which will slow the process of correcting them up a bit. I'll change Deane back to what it should be, but there may be others. Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 07:41, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Johnlp: good to see you've remained vigilant. Extremely foolish of me to make the same mistake a second time, but, er, I won't do it a third. To be honest, I actually reminded myself to not commit that error whilst applying the fixes – but then got distracted. At least the two you fixed were the only two, so thanks for picking it up again. Apologies. J947edits 09:13, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry to appear to be picking on you: I'm here so seldom these days that I'm very much a chance vigilante. I'd actually forgotten our previous encounter. For long-forgotten reasons I have several long-forgotten South African cricketers on my watchlist, and I'm always intrigued when they pop up on my notifications, because so few people take any interest in them... Thanks for the work you do, and for your serially positive response. Johnlp (talk) 11:52, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Johnlp: I'm interested, so there's one! Under the massive dark cloud of apartheid, there was some interesting cricket being played in SA. Very thankful for the work you've done on these articles, improving many from the barest-boned stubs – don't belittle it! :) J947edits 04:59, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost/Issue

I spent an entire afternoon fixing incoming links to these pages all over the project; per the incoming links, there is nothing to break. The only incoming links right now are from tracking pages that I created to enumerate all of the pages in the Signpost's space to clean up nonsense pages and misplaced directories like this one. jp×g 22:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@
R from page move}}s for just this reason. J947edits 22:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
I highly doubt that there are external backlinks to the Signpost's internal templates for embedding issue numbers; bookmarks and habitual searches will return a deletion summary and move log that links to the new location of the template. As for the historical integrity of the Signpost's historical structure, I can assure you that I have been spending the last eight months trying to document and preserve it. One of the major hurdles to making comprehensive documentation for the project is that it's existed for twenty years and has a very large number of pointless pages that don't do anything (or did something once, in 2008, have since been superseded, and still sit around in the namespace with no indication as to what they do or why they exist). A good example of this is the templates. Here are the prefixes used for Signpost templates:
  • Template:Signpost
  • Template:Signpost/
  • Template:Signpost-
  • Template:Signpost_
  • Wikipedia:Signpost/
  • Wikipedia:Signpost/Template
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  • Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/
  • Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Template
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  • Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/
What is the reason for it being this way? I will tell you: there isn't one. People just made templates where-the-hell-ever for twenty years, and nobody ever wrote down how or where they went, and the result is a completely impenetrable jungle of bullshit. You can't write templates to parse these, you can't go through them with scripts, everything requires you to hardcode insanely complicated edge case handling for each of the 14 template prefixes -- why? To a large extent, it seems like a self-reinforcing problem: for the most part nobody bothers to try to fix the problems because they are so bad and so deeply rooted, and the ones who do (note that there were similar attempts in 2009, 2016 and 2018) abandon them because at every step of the way people will object that it's hypothetically, somehow, possible for something to be broken by fixing typos from 2008. I feel it is also condign to reference the last time someone was browsing G6 nominations and brought up this objection: it required me to spam the bajeezus out of RfD with dozens of nominations for typo redirects and preload templates that hadn't been used in decades, of course all of which reached a resounding consensus to delete, although it did manage to delay the Signpost cleanup by about a month and create a mountain of bureaucratic busywork for RfD regulars/closers. jp×g 23:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Look, I understand – I thought myself that that string of Signpost templates having to be brought to RfD was a waste of time. But at long-term former titles for main templates that fail R3 on 3 counts, I draw the line. If you must have R from moves deleted (for unknown or purely minorconvenience-related reasons), then a big RfD bundle nom is the path forward. J947edits 23:36, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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National Geographic Channel HD

In regards to

User:Edward-Woodrow had a pretty valid rationale for starting the discussion and I was curious if he had a response in regards to mine about the presence of "HD". Utopes (talk / cont) 04:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • @Utopes:, it's a particularly uncommon search term so therefore I didn't see a need for it to be discussed at length. If E–W wanted to rebut your argument he could have done so, having edited many times since. So as it stood it was "This isn't a name for it" v "This is a name for it" for an unwieldly long redirect. In the worst case scenario, it being not a name, no one would find it anyway. I thought a relist might solidify the consensus one way or another, but to not import. Feel free to revert the close if you want, as I acknowledge I'm an outlier at RfD in closing ill-attended discussions that way. J947edits 04:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the close was a little premature; a relist would probably be more appropriate in my opinion. A note: I couldn't rebut
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@TonyTheTiger: I'll give a brief description on what vitality is, can't really commit to much else at the moment. It's obviously importance, but addressed from a more historical, more academic, less Western-centric viewpoint than we would normally envision. If Wikipedia could only have 50,000 articles, what would they be? The best way of finding out more than that is to have a look through the VA4 list and VA4 discussion archives and see what's on the list and what isn't, and why. J947edits 07:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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American politicians va removals

Your recent comments are spot-on. I'm really frustrated btw. Grnrchst made some questionable nominations and he still gets a second and a third for everything with no scrutiny. And what really worries me is that he's coming for earlier American politicians next. We could be seeing removal proposals for Daniel Webster, William Jennings Bryan, Stephen Douglas, John Hancock (because Grnrchst might not understand why those fellas are important, Piotr will support any American politician removal, and Blue will support any proposal I oppose)...and those proposals would essentially start with three supports, meaning most of the remaining editors would have to be rallied to stop them. SMH

p 02:28, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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It seems pretty obvious that we need to propose a quota increase for politicians, at the expense of pop culture and miscellaneous topics.

p 17:44, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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It hasn't been a great last 48 hours. Interstellarity voted to remove a bunch of American politicians without any rationale. Totalabe accused me of making tit-for-tat nominations. Nobody seems to understanding my analogies. Why do I feel so alone?

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I have question to you. I found you one of the most gentle and friendly users over the years in Vital articles project. I have question to you as my English is not very good. Could you please made in my !name nomination to add William G. Morgan to the level 4? Just as you did nomination to add Cat in the name of ios2019... I were repeating myself but I think that William G. Morgan definietly is vital as the person if we was in Volleyball Hall of Fame and if Volleyball is the only sport which at short page had globally more pageviews than Association Football. Volleyball is popular sport in many other countries than USA, for example in Indonesia is more popular than Rugby. Actually I could do that nomination by myself but I am not sure it would be ellegent from my side to fourth time nominate that during few years but I think this person is justfar more than enough vital at the level 4 and just because of sometimes we had not many active editiors to gain 66% then that does not mean this man does not deserve next chance to be added. Dawid2009 (talk) 12:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dawid2009: I've done so here. Feel free to vote on it.
If this doesn't pass, it's probably best to wait a few more years before you try again. J947edits 21:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks Dawid2009 (talk) 21:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23

Thank you!

Just wanted to thank you for the message even though it got reverted. I also removed the whole discussion from V5 because I'm too embarassed, hopefully nobody minds. It really sucks to be like this, but oh well, it's chronic. Thank you again! The Blue Rider 01:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No probs. Mental health is a pest. I was thinking you had left at first (partly why I reverted my comment), so it's a big relief that you haven't. J947edits 01:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Politicky politicians"

You used this term a few weeks back in a VA discussion. Curious for a little deeper explanation

p 14:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

It was really just a statement that I don't think the most well-known politicians are necessarily the most vital. Those sort of politicians that are known for being controversial or outspoken figures aren't the most influential, etc. They're sort of like metapoliticians, playing the game rather than doing their job, to put it another way. J947edits 23:06, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 24

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