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Greetings Mcb133aco. I saw your sandbox work and wonder if you could find time to correct two things: History_of_Minnesota#Civil_War_era_and_Dakota_War_of_1862 and Minneapolis#Dakota_natives,_city_founded. Both are very tight summaries (and we have a word count restriction on History of Minnesota). Thanks if you can look. -SusanLesch (talk) 22:50, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mcb133aco. I found your sandbox from your contributions link in the History of Minnesota. Sorry no worries, I just haven't run into you before, and looked at your most recent edits. I agree the Civil War section could be expanded and will try to do that keeping our word count restriction in mind. Your help with History of Minnesota would be great, but I guess you already got notification on that. Best wishes. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Civil War expanded but it could use your help. Sources were easy to find for the First Minnesota Regiment. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, not an administrator. I've been editing Minnesota articles since about 2006, and learned how much work a featured article star represents. Of late there's not been as much cooperation but say 10 or 15 years ago, WP:WikiProject Minnesota was strong, and brought several articles to FA. Nowadays the few of us left can choose to help maintain those stars or else lose them. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:27, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a moment would you go to my sandbox and give me your POV of the Minnesota War Crimes Article. Thank youMcb133aco (talk) 01:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)Mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 01:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, my time on this topic is done. Work on the History of Minnesota article wasn't enough. Best wishes. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to have made the request. Yours came with time limitations that did not work.Mcb133aco (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you've done quite a bit of important work on 38+2 in your Draft space. What do you think of compiling and publishing a List page first, with a table? Then publish the article content later. What I had in mind was like what @Myotus has done in many areas such as List of artwork at the Minnesota State Capitol. (Personally I've been surprised at how easy it is to create tables using visual editor.) Anyway I have lots of books to use as sources, etc., and am happy to help as needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:27, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply, To be honest I am unclear of what purpose a List page serves for the topic as well as the visual appearance as there are not that many images. How do you think it improves the readability of the article in general? I am guessing that your suggestion about a table is in reference to the bullet lists I have compiled. Thank you for the comment that I had done important work. My opinion is all I have done is state facts that are obvious and should have been stated by authorities on the war previous to now. It is interesting what other editors focus on. Another editor has said that the 38+2 should be rolled into the War Article and is not a stand alone article. An issue with nearly all the sources is that the editors seem to have no military background of understanding, yet the topic is military history. If you have not read John Haymond's The Infamous Dakota War Trials it is four years of research that is stellar for NPOV. Mcb133aco (talk) 01:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 01:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've reverted your new version of the Dakota War page for now. Thanks for posting your list of concerns on the article Talk page; that is definitely a good first step, so we can get more input other editors before moving forward, as it was a lot of huge changes in one go. You should probably go back and sign your comments on the Talk page, though. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion there is a great deal to be changed due to the poor quality of what is posted. It is suppose to be an Encyclopedic article. Expecting self correction from the editors that created that mess is an unreasonable expectation. What I posted was footnoted. Your revert should have been for vandalism, inaccuracy, COI, pov, or poor references. You stated none of those. "Too much" is not listed anywhere as a valid reason for a revert, which makes your action questionable across the board.Mcb133aco (talk) 18:52, 10 July 2022 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 18:52, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Like many other editors, I've been working on fixing the page in good faith, slowly, one carefully considered edit at a time, with sources. If you have further edits, I would expect you to do the same. For highly controversial topics like wars, I don't think it's a good idea to a complete rewrite of the page unilaterally and then overwrite the page without building consensus for the draft first.

That said, I was going to suggest we start addressing your concerns point-by-point in sequence on the article Talk page, but I'm having a hard time understanding whether you're willing to listen and collaborate or not. To be honest, I'm a little worried that you've been working by yourself in a silo in your User space for too long. It's good to see you back out in the open again. Cielquiparle (talk) 19:46, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mdewakanton-Wahpekute 38 +2. Thanks! Urban Versis 32^KB ⚡ ^{(talk / contribs)} 16:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Dakota War of 1862 instead.

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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good day to you. Following your instructions has gotten me nowhere. There are two active editors on the Dakota War. That article is poorly done. I did a rewrite including the content you rejected. It was reverted nearly immediately for being "too large". It was not rejected for vandalism, inaccuracy, or COI. My opinion is the editor that did the revert has taken ownership of the article and does not have a npov. The other editor is indigenous and also does not have a npov. I have written two articles, one on the war the other on the hangings. Both are vast improvements on what is currently posted and I can't do anything with them. When I posted the Dakota War rewrite I posted a bullet list of reasons. The "Owner" is now using that list to improve the article. That list is incomplete and using it to repost content that was deleted is a form of plagiarism in my opinion. They are using it with no collaboration from me. I would very much be interested in your thoughts as I have some considerable work in the owner's revert and your rejection.Mcb133aco (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the Pipestone Indian Training School can be its own article. There's one for the Morris Industrial School for Indians in Minnesota that is a good example of the content. Then it can be wikilinked on the list for Minnesota at American Indian boarding schools.  oncamera  _{(talk page)} 04:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morris if not PipestoneMcb133aco (talk) 04:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 04:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]