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Why do I have to cite someone's ethnicity when it's inherently blatant in their name? She was born in Canada to Greek parents, so she can't be Greek-born?

It's pretty racist not to acknowledge her Greek heritage by stipulating she's a Greek-born Canadian, don't you think?

Anyway, this is the last time I make an edit on the site. 174.91.42.146 (talk) 23:29, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Greek-born means born in Greece and she was born in Canada. Her Greek heritage is already mentioned in the main text and isn't necessary for the lead section. Suonii180 (talk) 12:05, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Greek-born doesn't mean born in Greece. It means born to Greek parents. Her Greek heritage should be mentioned in addition to her nationality.

  You can't just call her Canadian. She's Greek Canadian. 174.91.42.146 (talk) 16:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• • Grammatically it means born in Greece and she doesn't have dual Greek-Canadian nationality. If you think the wording should be changed then it would be best to discuss it on the

    consensus. Suonii180 (talk) 17:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Hi, Suonii180! I wanted to check back with you about the AfDs that you'd requested protection for. I declined the requests because it looked like the offending IPs and new users have been pretty systematically blocked as they've popped up. I really think that if we protect those discussions, they'll just move on to some of the other 400 or so open ones: it looks like the targets are chosen at random. (At least, *I* can't see anything they all have in common.) If new disruption pops up, don't hesitate to notify

• @Joyous!:, that's a good point about them moving to other AfDs, thanks for letting me know! Suonii180 (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I made a change to Sandra Bowmans personal life section, stating that she had 2 children. It was removed due to me not linking a creditable source. I am actually her biological child, Isobel, which is creditable. If you need further proof, I can email you mine or my mams facebook page. This will show you that she has listed both me and my brother, Matthew, as her children. Thank you x 82.25.240.116 (talk) 21:58, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Most of that content was from the "History of Belfast" page and, therefore, belong on the History Timeline of Belfast. As someone who lives in Belfast, I deserve a bit of a grace period to enter my sources without a busy body coming along and undoing all my work (especially when it's already been accept on a Wikipedia main page). Next time, ask before you undo in seconds what took a couple of hours to create. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.220.8 (talk) 23:03, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's the responsibility of the editor adding new information to include references at the same time they add that information. Please see

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Do not remove my content without giving me time to find all the proper citations, especially when it is being transposed from a pre-existing Wikipedia page (History of Belfast). Also, there are some you removed that have proper citations based on BBC News articles. I live in Belfast and I know more about this topic than you. I do legitimate research and I don't appreciate my work being casually removed. If it happens again without messaging me first, then I'm going to report it. Kylecholmes (talk) 23:24, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:IKNOW. Suonii180 (talk) 23:38, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Nor does it mean that you have the right to police other people's additions by hanging over them like a hawk. Every edit done on here has a grace period and often a message is sent to the editor before content is removed. My living in the city does not act as substitute for citations, however, my work on the actual History of Belfast page (with citations) and my being in Belfast should make you think twice before cavalry deleting content on a whim. You did not even do me the courtesy that I have done for other editors and they have done for me which is to contact first BEFORE removal. You just took it upon yourself to remove my content without any warning and that is poor form. You are also the only editor I've encountered on Wikipedia who has done this backwards. Message first, give time for edit THEN and only then remove content. Do not go off half-cocked again and do not remove any of my content, especially when I have provided a credible source. Learn to communicate or else don't be an editor. Kylecholmes (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kylecholmes: Everyone has edits that get reverted at one stage or another and it's not a given that you're going to get a discussion about it before hand. If you want to encourage more communciation it may be better to avoid editing while you're logged out and then switching to being logged in. Also, don't tell editors to stop editing because they disagree with you, it's impossible to agree with every other editor on Wikipedia and isn't a constructive way to discuss issues. Suonii180 (talk) 22:20, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i have no issue with editors editing. You removing content lightning quick while do very little to communicate first is your mistake. No one else has done this in my years of adding content, just you. You gave it hours then deleted content while others have given days or even weeks to make corrections without removing anything first. Some even offer advice. My advice to you is, communicate and only delete as a last resort and loads of time. People do not volunteer their time and intellect to have some busy body come along and undo all their hard work because they are on a power trip. Be professional and help improve, dont destroy. Kylecholmes (talk) 00:08, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:TEAHOUSE. If the information wasn't sourced in the article that you moved it from then you shouldn't have moved it without first finding sources. Suonii180 (talk) 00:36, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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That's fair. As per our previous dialog, give time for sources to be found as this is being done on my free time. I did wonder about using Wikipedia as a source and will avoid in the future. If I use an outside, credible source that is also found on the History of Belfast main page I expect it to be accepted. Kylecholmes (talk) 14:49, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:USERGENERATED site which means that you can't assume that it's reliable or correct. Suonii180 (talk) 16:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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I feel we are on the same page now. I appreciate you adding the "citation needed" markers as they help the process. I have added citations to every reference point and even tried to double up when I can making sure all sources are credible. Kylecholmes (talk) 23:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kylecholmes: The article looks great, thank you for adding the sources. Suonii180 (talk) 01:04, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, lists aren't exempt from needing sources as per

Regards to you. Heath St John (talk) 17:48, 14 November 2023

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WP:RELIABLE to see what kinds of sources you should use. Suonii180 (talk) 12:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Hello to whoever posted this.

The' Cancelling Disputes ' section applies here, I think: as I do ! know what a ' Cabal ' is.

Thanks very much. Heath St John (talk) 21:10, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sam Campbell was definitely born in 1991, September 19. On the skills in time Facebook, he uploaded his CV as a joke but it includes all his real details including full name (with middle name), birth date and address. There are also two separate sources for his birth date already listed on his wiki. I don't know how to attach images here but I can send it. Thepowerandtheglory (talk) 23:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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On the Trusty Hogs podcast, at minute 26:39, Sam himself says he is 32 as of Novermber 2023. In this article about his Barry win (which is also citation number one on Sam Campbell's Wiki page, in the infobox), it states he is 26 as of April 2018. As I stated on Willondon's talk page, doing simple math would tell you it is impossible for him to be 31 in February 2024 and 26 in April 2018, unless you somehow had contrary information about his birth month which you must source. Even if he were somehow joking about his age in the podcast, the article cited corroborates with his being 32 now.

Here is the FaceBook post I was referring to: https://www.facebook.com/profile/100063587326307/search/?q=CV. Skills In Time is Sam Campbell's collective group, he also personally posted frequently on the FaceBook page and other information in the CV aligns with information that is either already known or not found elsewhere (middle name, his email address which is in fact his real email address as evidenced by his YouTube video descriptions and the fact he's posted his email address on screen at many gigs, his high school education which he corroborates in the WTF Welcome to Meet You podcast). I understand this might have been posted as a joke but the The Age article and the Trusty Hogs podcast should be enough to prove he was not born in 1992.

Not sure why there is still insistence that he was somehow born in 1992 or not born on September 19. Do you have any source or explanation for why you think he was born a year later? Considering there are already multiple sources stating he was born in 1991. Thepowerandtheglory (talk) 00:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have infact cited both sources but the infobox on his page is still ambiguous as to his age despite this. Thepowerandtheglory (talk) 00:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't insisting the age was wrong, whenever it was added to the article the sourcing was not added alongside it. If a source covering the info is in the article already then it should also be added next to dates of birth otherwise it's not clearly sourced. When adding information the

WP:BLP for more info on biographies of living people. Information in infoboxes doesn't change automatically when editing the main text in the article, please see Template:Birth date and age for the format used in infoboxes. Suonii180 (talk) 20:10, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks for the info. Thepowerandtheglory (talk) 23:04, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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