User talk:Velella

Hi, I noticed you struck through a few votes at this AfD for them being confirmed socks. I took a look at these users and it seems like they aren't blocked? TLA^tlak 08:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Silly me, just saw the investigation. TLA^tlak 08:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

liz - In your close of the Afd at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swaady Martin you stated that " ....do not strike out any "votes"/arguments unless the editor is a confirmed sockpuppet of a block-evading editor" and reinstated the vote!s struck through. However the two editors had already been confirmed as socks here. Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   21:23, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it seems like Liz missed the investigation, same as me. Maybe it's worth putting a link to the investigation in the AfD in the future? TLA^tlak 23:52, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your edits to Edgar Louton, I am inclined to disagree about notability but agree about third party. Kindly take a look at the many newspaper sources from the decades, as well as the book closely detailing his ministry which sold many copies. Thanks. I think it would be better to say that in order to verify the info we need sources that are more clearly objective, but definitely notable. 41.10.86.248 (talk) 11:57, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not too excercised about this. Maintenance tags rarely produce much improvement to an article although it does give interested editors a notice that the quality of the article is less than satisfactory. I was originally going to nominate at AfD but had a change of heart. I still believe that it is an AfD candidate unless it is substantially imrpoved, but I am not going to get into a fight about which specific maintenance templates are used in the meantime. Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   12:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.pressreader.com/india/hindustan-times-lucknow/20220425/281715503175215 Rrgilko (talk) 13:45, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, its a press release. What of it ?  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   14:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I notice you have once again deleted my article. As asked, my sources have been converted for easy access for the readers. There are 25 induvial sources, and some are mentioned multiple times. Why is it that you keep deleting my article? I have gone through Wikipedia's editor training, and I am working on this research project at one of the most prestigious universities in the US. I am not trying to misinform any readers and that would never be my intention. George John Seaton was a prisoner and slave that is not widely recorded in history. Our goal as a class is to inform readers about their stories and about who these induvial were. I understand that if you search George John Seaton on a public search engine he does not come up. That is the point to writing an article about him on Wikipedia. My sources are being pulled from Washington University in St. Louis library which is highly reputable. Please let me know why you are continuing to delete my article. I have worked hard over the last week to reinforce any of the issues you found in my previous draft. I did not think this would be a continuing issue. Jeorgiaobrien (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeorgiaobrien - Firstly, I have not deleted the article(s) that you started. I have moved one version to Draft so that you could work on it there in relative safety. The second version, that you created quite separately from the Draft, I have nominated for deletion because it does not, in my opinion, meet the notability requirements of Wikipedia. An admin will decide in a couple of weeks or so whether it will or will not be deleted.

I did provide advice when I moved the first version to Draft, but I guess that you have chosen to ignore that advice. This is fine, you are under no obligation to follow advice of experienced editors but equally, I am not obliged to give any special consideration to a project that you have spend significant time in writing. The Wikipedia rules on notability take no heed of the amount of work or of the University that you attend. Follow the rules and all will be well. Fail to follow the rules and you may fare less well.

If you would value some more advice I would suggest carefully sifting through your sources, putting aside any that are written by the subject or which use their writing as their source and look for reputable sources that discuss the individual. Having found those sources, include direct verbatim quotes from those sources (in inverted commas) either in the reference itself, so that it appears in the footnotes, or in the main body if that seems appropriate, or even on the talk page so that other editors of less prestigious Universities can satisfy themselves that the notability criteria are met. I have no wish to impeded your University career but I am not prepared to change the rules to help effect that.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   18:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, how about these sources to add on to the ones that I already had?

[1] (access this on archive dot ph for no paywall)

[2]

[3]

I also was able to find that it was screened at two different noteworthy film festivals:

[4]

[5]

Being discussed in The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Screen Australia, the National Film and Sound Archive, and the National Museum of Australia - and being screened in competition at the Annecy International Animation Film Festival and the Melbourne International Film Festival should be enough to establish that this show is notable enough to have an article.--LadybugStardust (talk) 22:34, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have made no edits to Human Contraptions so am unsure what you now expect?  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   16:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You rejected the initial draft. Remember? Anyways, I already added new sources and turned it into an article.--LadybugStardust (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To separare the subject from its verb with a comma is simply wrong. Do you write " Paul, is a boy" or "Paul is a boy" ?? To do it again when you reverted my edition twice is wrong and 2x stupid. Please read a grammar book and restore my edition. Or do whatever you want, I do not care... Mschlindwein ^msg 23:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page stalker here. New comments should be placed at the end of a page. As to your point, Velella observed there was a parenthetical clause. The question should be: Do you write "Paul, from down the street is a boy" or "Paul, from down the street, is a boy"? The answer to your question can be found in many books and web pages. E.g. Normally a parenthetical element has a comma before and after it.[6] Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have not heard any recent feedback from you regarding the George John Seaton page. The talk page for deletion has been nominated for relisting due to the immense changes that have occurred in the last few weeks. Please review the article again and comment your thoughts to this editor. They are hoping to hear back from you, and it is helpful for me to make any last changes before my semester comes to an end. Jeorgiaobrien (talk) 00:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are no two commas “issue”, since one comma is inside the parenthesis and the other one is outside them. This means you are separating the subject “Snowdon” from its verb “to be —> is”. The sentence reads “Snowden, is a mountain…”, which is wrong not only in English, but in all languages I’m aware of. Or do you think that writing “Einstein, is a physicist” is correct? 😏🤦‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ If you do, ask your English teacher and put my correction back. I’m done with this point, I do not like to waste my time with stupidity. Mschlindwein ^msg 20:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain why four days after the AfD was closed as keep rather than add any of the sources identified you started a new AfD? That's literally disruptive behaviour. I'm also curious why you're so obsessed with getting rid of this article while the project is full of so many unsourced articles. I hope you read the close of the new AfD very thoroughly. AusLondonder (talk) 01:10, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]