Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Griffith Vaissaire

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The result was delete. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:58, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Griffith Vaissaire

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• Note: This discussion has been included in the
  Avilich (talk) 15:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and South America. Shellwood (talk) 15:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep: Although the subject hadn't much coverage, I managed to find 3 sources (1 & 2 & 3) and added them to the page. She plays for a Dutch club and two of the sources are in Dutch meaning that she managed to attract some local media attention in the Netherlands. AmshitBalcon (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source 1 seems to be a translation of the 2nd (or the other way around), and neither that nor the 3rd say much more that she was called for the national team, so that's not a GNG pass.

Avilich (talk) 20:35, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply

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• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:39, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Per AmshitBalcon. I found 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10, among many more Dutch sources. Clearly significant figure in Surinamese women's football with ongoing international career and club career abroad. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:16, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The ED source is paywalled. The others are the usual drivel you claim is GNG/SIGCOV. Vaissaire lives and plays in the Netherlands so doesn't have a "club career abroad". That shows your understanding of the sources. BTW playing football no longer makes someone notable so stop spamming AFD with that non argument. Dougal18 (talk) 13:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 21:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - If we look at the sources provided above, it is clear that most of them are versions of the same press release announcing a Suriname call-up for Vaissaire (and another diaspora player). This press release contains very little information about Vaissaire; she plays amateur football for SSS in the Topklasse (second level) and futsal for a club that competes in district-level tournaments. There is a Suriname match preview which drops her name, and a note that she won an award with her futsal team. This coverage is about all I could find online, and it is woefully short of satisfying the
  WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 18:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete. Sources clearly do not demonstrate GNG. Agreed with Dougal18 about spamming useless sources. JoelleJay (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shawn Teller (talk) 23:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep Needs additional citations Zangoaviation (talk) 07:15, 21 March 2023 (UTC) — Zangoaviation (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Delete - Sources do not meet GNG. Please stop spamming AfDs with passing mentions. –dlthewave ☎ 01:24, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is a fundamental disagreement about the quality of sources presented.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete — The sources are not strong enough for
  WP:NFOOT. PopoDameron ⁠talk 01:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete No indication that the subject passes WP:GNG. Merely being a player cutteth not the mustard. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:35, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I don’t see any indication of
  WP:SOCKSTRIKE – Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - Jogurney's comment 2 weeks ago is still relevant here. Nobody has been able to present any evidence of sourcing that helps address the shortfalls that have been pointed out on 16/3. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:05, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Although some references were presented but I feel they are not notable enough to support the "Keep" claim. Charsaddian (talk) 04:14, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]