Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of châteaux in Languedoc-Roussillon
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The result was keep. Courcelles 00:39, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
List of châteaux in Languedoc-Roussillon
- List of châteaux in Languedoc-Roussillon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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List consisting almost entirely of redlinks, to be avoided: WP:LIST#Development. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm nominating the following articles for the same reason. Note that all these articles were copied from French Wikipedia and were borderline
- List of châteaux in Languedoc-Roussillon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Limousin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Lorraine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Nord-Pas-de-Calais (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Normandy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Overseas France (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Picardy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Poitou-Charentes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in Rhône-Alpes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- List of châteaux in the Midi-Pyrénées (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- List of châteaux in the Île-de-France (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
—Largo Plazo (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. -- —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:55, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The vast majority of these châteaux are likely to be designated as of historic importance (In the UK we have
]- WP:REDLINK, which you cited, supports deletion of these pages, agreeing with WP:LIST#Development when it says "However, rather than using red links in lists, disambiguation pages or templates as an article creation guide, editors are encouraged to write the article first, and instead use the wikiproject or user spaces to keep track of unwritten articles." —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:30, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mjroots. It appears that a majority of the buildings in these lists are notable and can/should have articles. As a matter of fact, a majority of them have articles in French Wikipedia. --Oakshade (talk) 21:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that my deletion proposal was not based on any claim that these castles in question aren't notable. My objection is based on the lack of existing articles, which WP:REDLINK and WP:LIST#Development both address, and both say that this should not be done in article space. —Largo Plazo (talk) 22:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If all the articles in these lists were redlinks, you'd have a point. However, there are so many existing châteaux articles within each list, these lists are valid. That cherrypicked WP:REDLINK line you quoted above are for lists with all redlinks. There are just too many bluelinks to delete these lists. --Oakshade (talk) 23:05, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I suppose we may as well discard all of Wikipedia's guidelines altogether, since by your definition, finding precisely the ones that apply to a situation and citing them is "cherrypicking". As for the links that are' blue, by your logic, given a list consisting of 100 redlinks, as soon as two or three of them have articles, the page is suddenly ready for the article namespace. I disagree. The vast majority of links on all these pages are red. —Largo Plazo (talk) 01:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If all the articles in these lists were redlinks, you'd have a point. However, there are so many existing châteaux articles within each list, these lists are valid. That cherrypicked
Keep - most, if not all of these should exist, many lists have redlinks, or have had red links which were later filled in, for example
]- Doug, I appreciate what you say, but the fact that WP:REDLINKS discusses other aspects of redlinks besides lists in the main article space that were initially constructed with (virtually) nothing but redlinks with the idea of filling them in later, doesn't mean that what it specifically says about such lists goes away, as though it didn't exist. Again, "However, rather than using red links in lists, disambiguation pages or templates as an article creation guide, editors are encouraged to write the article first, and instead use the wikiproject or user spaces to keep track of unwritten articles." —Largo Plazo (talk) 21:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. There are sufficient valid articles listed to just remove the red parts. No reason to delete them per nomination. On another note, some of these imported lists might still soon be prodded for not having been translated within two weeks. See ]
- Delete. There is a proper procedure for the translation of articles from other wikipedias outlined at Wikipedia:Translation, as they stand these articles are pretty much candidates for a2 or reduction to one line stubs--Jac16888Talk 00:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well List of châteaux in Languedoc-Roussillon List of châteaux in Limousin. List of châteaux in Picardy, List of châteaux in Normandy and List of châteaux in Overseas France all look close to translated or totally so and a ton of work has just been done by an anon on the others. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]--Oakshade (talk) 02:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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