Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry W. Patience

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:07, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Terry W. Patience

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Non-notable religious leader. Zero independent coverage found. Indeed, no significant coverage found beyond his bio on the church's website. schetm (talk) 17:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:12, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I couldn't find anything either. Doesn't meet
  WP:GNG. Schazjmd (talk) 17:30, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete no sources or notability. hard to take seriously when there's nothing to it. agree with nom MaskedSinger (talk) 20:43, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: if the "Remnant" church is legitimate, and it seems to be, and this guy is the President of the Church, the denomination's highest office, then he is notable. It's like deleting a cardinal or a pope, albeit of a minor church. Drmies (talk) 17:04, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• On Wikipedia,
  notability is not inherited. Just because he's the leader of a church doesn't mean he's notable. If the Pope had no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, then we wouldn't have an article on him either. schetm (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• This !vote is a possible argument for merge, but not for keep. Narky Blert (talk) 11:55, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I have to avoid Schetm's view, but we cannot justify this article just because the church in question exists. For one thing, I can point out sub-church units with way more members than this church body whose leaders are deemed to be non-notable. Not every notable Church confers notability on its leaders.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for now. We just don't have any reliable sources. The church itself hasn't released a news report. While they have an article about the death of Larsen, the previous President, there is nothing about Patience as his successor. The only indication is a change on the leadership page, and that was nearly a week later - which made adding the event to the related pages difficult. I would say merge, but what information we do have has already been incorporated on other pages - I just don't see what else could be merged due to the lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. --FyzixFighter (talk) 13:45, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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