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May 31

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense babel category. "These users wish to speak Inuktitut". Essentially a 0-level category, since this is for people who don't speak the language at all. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"A category for people who feel that they don't have a completed userpage. Yet." - We don't need a category for this. Nobody is going to have a reason to go looking for userpages that are under construction. Looks like the category was created simply for the sake of being associated with the template. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Merge Category:User ot-5 to Category:Wikipedian translators. No consensus to Delete the rest, so Merge all the rest to Category:Wikipedians who would like to learn more languages. - jc37 16:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"These users would like to be able to speak more languages", "This user would like to be able to speak many more languages", etc. etc. Knowing who wants to speak more languages is not useful to Wikipedia at all. The only possible useful one is the last one, stating "This user is a professional translator of one or more languages". It isn't all that helpful without knowing what languages they translate, however, and such a category shouldn't be in the babel system if deemed keepable.

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The result of the debate was Delete all - jc37 16:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't need categories for this invented language. There will never be a Wikipedia written in ROT13, nobody will ever have a use for going through such categories to find people. Category:User rot13-1 does not currently exist, but this should set precedent for that category as well. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 30

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The result of the debate was rename. VegaDark (talk) 23:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename Category:Wikipedian edit archive to Category:Lists of Wikipedians by number of edits - Following "Lists of..." naming convention. - jc37 22:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. VegaDark (talk) 23:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as redundant to Category:Wikipedian bass guitarists, which is used to disambiguate against Category:Wikipedian double bassists. –Pomte 16:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was merge to level 1 --Kbdank71 20:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense babel category level, only whole numbers please. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was merge to level 2 --Kbdank71 20:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense babel category level, only whole numbers please. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was rename/merge to en-5 --Kbdank71 20:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No 6-level categories, please. Says the same exact thing for 5-level, and should be merged. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 20:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Classic "not" category. Categorizing by things we don't own does not help Wikipedia in any way. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator
determination to speedy delete this category. Category:Car-free Wikipedians is not a clone of Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars. "Car-free Wikipedians" is not a "not-category" but rather about an affirmatiion of support for or adherence to the Car-free movement. In this, it follows the logic of the Straight edge Wikipedians category. The category links users to the Car-free movement article and to a movement that exists external to the Wikipedia community. Car-free Wikipedians could reasonably be expected to be interested in collaborating on the Car-free movement article and some of the several related articles listed in its "See also" section. None of this was true of the now deleted Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars
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Wikipedia's
good faith effort to address valid concerns about Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars, which I never voted to keep. Reasonable doubts exist, therefore, any discussion of deleting Category:Car-free Wikipedians--if such a discussion takes place at all--should not take place using the speedy delete method. --DieWeisseRose 09:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply
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--DieWeisseRose 09:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Ok, after going therough related articles, categories, and reference links, what I've essentially found are either remote villages which prefer donkey travel, islands, and cycling paths and locations. Very little is about the eco-concerns, and more about supporting cycling. That said, there are several organisations interested in this, and obviously Wikipedians interested in this, so some sort of Wikipedian category related to this issue would seem appropriate as a sub-cat of Category:Wikipedians by political issue. It definitely needs a rename ("carfree" is one such name), and an effort needs to be made to keep this from duplicating Category:Wikipedian cyclists. - jc37 22:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was rename - Considering the category has been speedy deleted and endorsed at deletion review, rename is the only real viable close in this situation, so I will make an exception to my general rule of not closing my own nominations in this case. VegaDark (talk) 17:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Useless category. Does anyone not support the development of renewable energy? Might as well have a category for people who support improved health care, improved human rights, etc. Also, "Renewable Energy" should not be capitalized, so at least needs a rename. I'd also support a rename to Category:Wikipedians interested in renewable energy. VegaDark (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 28

Category:WikiProject Irish Music participants

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The result of the debate was due to lack of input from the WikiProject, the fact this is several days overdue for a close, and the fact a result of "no consensus" will result in keeping two identical categories, I am closing this as merge to Category:WikiProject Irish Music participants. If the Wikiproject has a consensus to switch to the "members" version in the future, they are free to do so. VegaDark (talk) 18:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Irish Music participants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Merge into Category:WikiProject Irish Music members, duplicate. -- Prove It (talk) 01:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 27

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's University

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The result of the debate was rename. VegaDark (talk) 18:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's University to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Queen's University Belfast
Nominator's Rationale: Rename, To differentiate Queen's University Belfast from Queen's University in Canada. Cordless Larry 16:20, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 26

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 10:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Local" varies for every person on Wikipedia, so as is, this category is essentially useless for collaborative purposes. A way to salvage it would be to make it in to a parent category and change the name to Category:Wikipedians by local history interest, and have subcategories for each city. Unfortunately, we we would have to ask everyone in the category which city's local history they are interested in to determine this, so I don't know if this is salvagable. As is, this category is no more useful than if someone just wrote they were interested in local history on their userpage. "Local History" shouldn't be capitalized, so this at minimum needs a rename.

  • Neutral pending more discussion, but leaning towards delete. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete - At first I was thinking that this could be kept if the inclusion criteria involved local culture and society in general as sociological items. However, it's clear from the category introduction that this is not the case. This merely duplicates every "Wikipedian by location" category into one sprawling category which is potentially all-inclusive. - jc37 10:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This just isn't useful unless it provides a means for finding Wikipedians interested in the history of some particular locality. Which is an interesting idea, but I don't see the possibility of it without building and filling a perfectly gargantuan category tree. Even then, how local one can go without passing the notability horizon is not an argument I care to be present for. --7Kim 19:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was No consensus - jc37 10:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This category became more or less obsolete when Wikipedia:Userbox migration came along. I don't think this category was useful at any point time, but It certainly isn't useful now. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 10:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not something Wikipedia needs a category for. I'm sure everyone supports the revival of various things, but having categories for such things will not improve the encyclopedia. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was speedy delete at author's request. NoSeptember 11:46, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

"The wikipedians who have joined User:Alphablast/The emerald society". Sorry, we don't need categories for unofficial userspace groups. Similar categories have been deleted many times in the past. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete.--Mike Selinker 11:16, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

0-level category. Mass deleted here. Listing for another admin to verify, since this specific one hasn't been deleted before. VegaDark (talk) 02:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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May 25

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The result of the debate was No consensus - Speedily renaming to Category:Wikipedian autograph pages per proper caps. - jc37 10:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does not aid collaboration in any way. At all. Also, wasn't something like this deleted before? – Gurch 15:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I think all these autograph pages should be deleted. They are all a waste of space and people's time. However, until that happens, a category to group them all might not be a bad idea (in order to make it easier for a group MfD). VegaDark (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Autograph books. A•N•N•A hi! 00:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. VegaDark (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No possible collaborative use;

WP:NOT a webhost or social networking site. (ESkog)(Talk) 11:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - "This lists Wikipedians who are against female haircutting" - Sorry, we don't need a category for this. VegaDark (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - This is a major issue in some countries of the world, as well as some religious sects/groups/whatever. However, I can't tell if this is the intent of the category, or just a category of those who find long hair on women attractive, and are opposed to it being cut. Keep if the former is true, else Delete if the latter is true. - jc37 10:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was speedy delete per previous consensus on admins per country categories. Picaroon (Talk) 02:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This one must have slipped through the cracks of the Administrators by country UCFD a while back. In either case, I think that established enough precedent for this to be speedyable. VegaDark (talk) 02:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Audio file editors

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The result of the debate was Speedy Rename - jc37 10:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Rename Category:Audio file editors to Category:Wikipedians who edit audio files - added Wikipedians and re-arrange order. - jc37 08:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 24

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The result of the debate was Rename to Category:Wikipedians who use gedit (per [[Gedit|article note]). - jc37 10:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)][reply]

Rename to Category:Wikipedians who use Gedit for proper capitalisation.

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May 23

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted per creator request below. VegaDark (talk) 23:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can't be true, does not help Wikipedia in any way. Categories like these are explicitly mentioned in the essay on what categories not to make. VegaDark (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 21

PlayStation

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The result of the debate was Do not rename the PS2 or PS3 categories. Rename Category:Wikipedians who play PlayStation to Category:Wikipedians who play PlayStation 1 games. - The article lists several synonyms, including: PSone, PSOne, PS one, or PS1. Simply chose "1" to match 2 and 3. - jc37 09:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 19

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 19:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can't possibly categorize all past accounts that have been used for vandalism. Attempting to maintain such a category would be futile. This is nonsense. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • If a user is in that category and they are posted to AIV, the bot will mention that the user is in the category. Should have no effect whatsoever on this debate. ]
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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User category that added people to a now deleted group. Not useful to Wikipedia at all. Once again, I'll say that stuff like this should be speedyable. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was speedy delete per creator request below. VegaDark (talk) 07:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does not help Wikipedia in any way I can think of. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 22:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do we want a category like this for every game show or talk show ever made? I don't see this being any more useful than its parent category, Category:Wikipedians who like Jeopardy!. I suppose it's possible such people saw some behind-the-scenes stuff, but adding any info they got from first-hand experience to articles would qualify as original research. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Merge to Category:Wikipedians who use Google Talk - jc37 19:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to the correctly-named Category:Wikipedians who use Google Talk. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Keep as semaphore to developers, I suppose? : ) - jc37 19:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need one of these for all 10,000 bug reports on BugZilla. Will become obsolete once it is fixed, anyway, and this category won't provide any benefit until then. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as nominator. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • As the acknowledged impetus for this category, I'll be sorry to see it go. This isn't just any ol' bug, but probably one of the biggest current sources of frustration for those of us that spend significant time battling Wikipedia vandalism. This little bit of wiki-civil disobedience was meant to simply inform other users about this issue (I bet 98% of regular editors still don't know about this bug) and encourage our noble developers on their pathway towards a solution. At least it managed to pick up a little bit of attention.[1] In any case, I'm sure this cat will be deleted, and for perfectly valid reasons...but I won't pretend to like it! Sigh.Scientizzle 08:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep until bug is fixed. Scientizzle is right that this isn't "any ol' bug". Because of this bug, warning IP users for vandalism serves virtually no purpose since most IP users are not getting the messages. The problem is that most users on Wikipedia still don't know that this bug is preventing them from being able to communicate with IPs. This category was created to try to "get the word out" that there is a problem with this and that most IPs are not receiving messages they sent. I understand if the category is deleted but that doesn't mean that I will try other ways to inform people. -- Hdt83 Chat 08:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm fully aware of the bug and its effects. I don't see how increasing people's awareness of it any more will make the bug get fixed any faster. Every single Wikipedian could be in this category and I doubt it would make a difference, I'm sure the developers are working on it and the amount of people in this category isn't going to affect their speed. I also don't like the precedent this sets- Allowing a category like this for all bug reports on BugZilla (or at least all unsolved ones). Yes, this is more severe than most, but setting the threshhold for what is category-worthy or not is subjective. I also really don't like the temporary nature of this. I don't like the idea of any Wikipedian category that is expected to be obsolete within a few weeks or a couple months at most. VegaDark (talk) 08:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I perfectly understand and support the reasons for setting up this category. (And yes, I had forgotten about the bug again... and I'm currently trying to contact an IP, so I'm glad about the reminder.) And if it should help in the least to indicate to the developers that this is seen as a priority by many Wikipedians--all the better. I'm sure they have a lot to do, so it's a good idea to indicate the priorities that current users request. (And no, I don't care whether a category is set up for a day or a century. If it's useful when it's there and doesn't cause too much trouble to set it up and delete it--what's the problem?) Nonetheless, I also have to agree with the argument that this would set a precedent. And we'd soon have so many categories that the purpose (pointing out a major issue) would be made impossible to reach once the word spreads and users rally friends and sock puppets to send their favorite bug category to the top of the charts... For this reason, I hope this discussion will drag on a bit more, raise a lot of awareness... and end with the deletion of the category. Mission accomplished. --Ibn Battuta 01:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This bug is pretty bad. (I'd support a cat for maybe
    biting anons too. (Disclosure: I think it was me who reported the bug, but I'm not sure (/me checks: yes, it was me).) I'd add myself to the cat if I were the sort of user who used user cats. (Note that there is a method of 'voting' for a bug on Bugzilla, where you add your email address as a 'vote'; I'm not sure if the devs pay attention to it.) --ais523 14:14, 26 May 2007 (UTC
    )
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The result of the debate was Deleted as empty by User:Anthony Appleyard. (And kind of hard to merge an empty category : ) - jc37 22:56, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, the former was a subcat of the latter. As these are redundant, they should be merged one into the other.

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Category:Wikipedians who like Zoo Tycoon

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The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker 15:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Rename Category:Wikipedians who like Zoo Tycoon to Category:Wikipedians who play Zoo Tycoon. --Mike Selinker 07:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 18

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, redundant. Picaroon (Talk) 01:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant with the properly named Category:Wikipedians who create userboxes. VegaDark (talk) 01:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was No consensus to delete - Rename to Category:Wikipedians who use ZX Spectrum computers. (The article suggests it's a personal computer rather than a video game console.) - jc37 19:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"This category describes those who consider themselves to be fans of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum computer" - Wha? This is nonsense. No indication it is even a user category, so at minimum needs a rename, but even then this would have no benefit to the encyclopedia. VegaDark (talk) 01:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 17

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted by Jeffrey O. Gustafson as it became empty. VegaDark (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for Wikipedians born before 1992 were deleted at CfD. High school year categories were recently merged here. The children's privacy issue had no consensus. –Pomte 04:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. There was also another, later CfD that resulted in no consensus, and then an IAR deletion endorsed in DRV. Since it's not clear which precedent should apply, please don't appeal to other discussions. -Amarkov moo! 04:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am going to appeal to other discussions, specifically the no consensus one. I'd like to say that we should go two months before we reconsider the issue, in nominations like this.--Mike Selinker 07:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - "No consensus" means what it says: that the discussion did not result in a consensus of Wikipedians. And as such, typically means that a re-nomination is fine (presuming that it's not done disruptively). AFAIK, all discussions regarding this topic so far either resulted in Deletion or No consensus. I also note that there was also an arbcom case about such things. See especially: current practice and counseling (and really that whole page). - jc37 09:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Though I think it's fine to have the middle and high school categories, even Wikipedia has its limits.--WaltCip 15:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - What's next, Wikipedian preschoolers? VegaDark (talk) 01:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 16

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 00:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Not" category, does not help to categorize things we "no longer" do, and does not facilitate collaboration. VegaDark (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 00:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Not" category, does not help to categorize things we hate, and all "hate" categories have been deleted previously (or speedy deleted). VegaDark (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What if we change it to something like "Users who believe MLA format is inefficient" or "Users who prefer other bibliography formats over MLA format"? We can rename the category such that it clarifies that the members prefer other styles, or at least bibliography formats, over MLA. (I think the MLA paper format is ugly, but I absolutely hate the bibliography format because so many simpler ones exist.) Thomas Levine 00:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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May 15

Football fans

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The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker 01:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

and on a similar note:

More football fans. I’m certain about all of them except the Egypt one. I can’t tell if the Pharaohs alluded to in the userbox is the national team, or what.--Mike Selinker 16:29, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Egypt national football team says Pharaohs is a nickname. Is it good form for some articles to say FC and others to say F.C.? –Pomte 20:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • We're stuck with that, as the mainspace articles have this difference as well. I amended the Egypt one, and added an AFL one.--Mike Selinker 07:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hrm. In that case a discussion needs to take place about making the articles uniform. Until then, I suppose we can settle for having the categories as you propose, but eventually the categories need to become uniform as well. VegaDark (talk) 01:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all as nominated except the Egypt one (category name should match article name). Also there needs to be a standard F.C./FC as Pomte points out. VegaDark (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all, i realised the mistake i made as soon as i created the South Melbourne category, coulnd't be bothered/didn't know how to change it, figured someone would get round to it eventually lol. Blackmissionary 22:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I vaguely recall one of MS's past group nominations at
    WP:CFD where there was a discussion and link confirming either F.C. or FC, but I don't recall much else. If someone can find the link, or even just more more information, that would be welcome : ) - jc37 09:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
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WikiProject Swimming categories

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The result of the debate was Speedy Rename/Merge - jc37 09:16, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Swimming
Category:Swimmer wikipedians
Speedy Rename Category:Swimmer wikipedians to Category:Wikipedian swimmers - caps and reverse order. - jc37 08:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Synchronized swimmer wikipedians
Speedy Rename Category:Synchronized swimmer wikipedians to Category:Wikipedian synchronized swimmers - caps and reverse order. - jc37 08:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Water polo player wikipedians
Speedy Rename Category:Water polo player wikipedians to Category:Wikipedians who play water polo - caps and re-arrange order. - jc37 08:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Diver wikipedians
Speedy Rename Category:Diver wikipedians to Category:Wikipedian divers - caps and reverse order. - jc37 08:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedian musicians

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 00:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Category:Wikipedian musicians to Category:Wikipedians by musical instrument subcategories/depopulate. - With the exception of the composers subcat, these are effectively the same category. - jc37 14:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who like spicy food

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 00:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who like spicy food - Per the UCFD discussion below, renominating this for deletion. - jc37 12:32, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conservapedian

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The result of the debate was speedy rename. Picaroon (Talk) 02:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Rename Category:Conservapedian to Category:Wikipedians who use Conservapedia - added Wikipedians. - jc37 09:00, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedists interested in researching history

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The result of the debate was speedy rename. Picaroon (Talk) 02:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Rename Category:Wikipedists interested in researching history to Category:Wikipedians interested in researching history - ists to ians. - jc37 15:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 14

Category:Wikipedians interested in general knowledge

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The result of the debate was delete. VegaDark (talk) 21:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians interested in general knowledge - Potentially all-inclusive category. - jc37 08:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 10

Wikipedians by video game console

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The result of the debate was Rename all except relisting the PlayStation ones. (Ugh @ the grammar : ) - jc37 23:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians who play massively multiplayer online games

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The result of the debate was Merge to Category:Wikipedians by video game - jc37 12:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename Category:Wikipedians who play massively multiplayer online games to Category:Wikipedians by massively multiplayer online game, and depopulate (currently 2 members). As an alternative, UpMerge to Category:Wikipedians by video game. - jc37 15:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who play Minesweeper

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The result of the debate was No consensus - jc37 12:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who play Minesweeper - Since this has been included with every windows operating system, it duplicates Category:Wikipedians who use Windows. - jc37 14:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who play Terraworld

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 12:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who play Terraworld - Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terraworld Online, the associated category should go too. - jc37 12:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep - jc37 13:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No such thing as speaking Quenya or Sindarin at a professional level. VegaDark 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see no reliable sources on the article indicating this. Just because someone had people say things in elvish in the movie does not mean they were fluent in it. They probably just looked up how to say the particular lines that were needed, I doubt someone went to the effort to learn an entire fictional lanugage for the few lines in LOTR. VegaDark 22:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • When noting the film series, I was talking about those involved in the production behind-the-scenes, not the actors themselves (though one of the professionals did comment that Liv Tyler seemed a natural with the language). - jc37 13:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I was talking about behind-the-scenes people as well in my reply. I doubt they learned the entire language just to write the few lines in the movie properly. VegaDark 23:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per the DVD, they were people who already had such knowledge, and were tapped to help due to that. I'll try to find specific names, if you wish. - jc37 23:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was speedy delete per author request below. VegaDark (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"These are all the user Vandal Boxes on Wikipedia, tagged with {(User Vandal Box}}" - I don't see why this needs a category. Seems to almost encourage vandalism. (I know this category doesn't actually categorize users, but it does categorize user pages, so I figured it was in the grey area between this and CFD). VegaDark (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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User vocals cats

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The result of the debate was Rename to:

The consensus was that the number breakdown was acceptable, but not the babel-abbreviated naming. - jc37 12:48, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "User x" babel format is meant for languages, not skills in general. Further, we don't need to have categories for different proficiencies of this.

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 12:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially a "not" category, as this is for people who did not go to college. Can not help encyclopedia building. VegaDark (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Dual boot cats

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The result of the debate was No consensus to Delete, Merge both to Category:Wikipedians who use dual boot configurations. - jc37 12:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't think of how these categories could really support collaboration. Just because they use such a configuration does not mean they are more knowledgeable about dual booting, and even if they are, one article to collaborate on does not justify an entire category for it. At least needs merging. VegaDark (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 12:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure many Wikipedians are concerned about a lot of things. We don't need a category for each one, though. VegaDark (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Spicy food levels

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The result of the debate was Delete - Nominating the parent for deletion. - jc37 12:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need levels for this, also levels are reserved for babel categories, which this isn't. VegaDark (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge all to Category:Wikipedians who like spicy food as nominator. VegaDark (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see why the
    WP:BABEL format can't apply to other types of categories, considering how useful they are to languages. This is a rare example in which user categories are truly useful (and take note that I'm against the whole idea of user categories in general): For most userboxes, you can find out who slapped them onto their userpages by using Special:Whatlinkshere. But for userboxes with parameters that affect what they say, like language and spicy food userboxes, there is no easy way to find out who likes spicy food vs. who really really loves spicy food. If you ever want to find that stuff out, user categories that get added depending on the parameter given come in really handy. Presumably, people with User:UBX/Red Pepper-3 would want to talk to others in their own league, not those weasly amateurs with User:UBX/Red Pepper-1. What you have suggested is a really huge spicy food category with less potential use. To complicate the clutter, there is also User:UBX/Curry which populates userpages into the same parent category. –Pomte 02:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Ignore the above. I had disillusioned myself into thinking it was one userbox. –Pomte 03:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - Strongly Oppose Merge - I created these categories per existing userboxes which were separated by spiciness tolerance/preference levels. However, I don't see the need for categorisation of those who like spicy food. If kept, I oppose the merger, since it's a valid distinction for sub-categorisation, and if Category:Wikipedians who like spicy food is found to be valid categorisation, so then are these. - jc37 02:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Depopulate Babel user categories and apply the consensus detail at end of debate, preferably that of the deletion persuasion per nom.--WaltCip 14:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all, including parent. No different than any other food category.--Mike Selinker 18:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If this nom results in deletion (which seems to be the direction it's heading), I'll nominate the parent cat for deletion as well. I would like to wait at least until then with the parent, since it was so recently up for discussion. - jc37 19:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 9

Primera División de México

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The result of the discussion was: rename all.--Mike Selinker 16:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who enjoy the Mexican soccer leagueCategory:Wikipedian Primera División de México fans

(article:
Primera División de México
)

Category:Wikipedians are fans of Pumas UNAMCategory:Wikipedian Club Universidad Nacional fans

(article: Club Universidad Nacional)

Category:Wikipedians who growl for the UANL TigresCategory:Wikipedian UANL Tigres fans

(article:
UANL Tigres
)

Category:Wikipedians who love Chivas de GuadalajaraCategory:Wikipedian Club Deportivo Guadalajara fans

(article:
Club Deportivo Guadalajara
)

Based on the convention in Category:Wikipedians interested in sports teams. These teams have multiple aliases, so it's best to stick to the article name until the article name changes. However, I think it's more clear to say "Wikipedian fans of Club..." because they can be construed as a "Wikipedian Club" of something. –Pomte 17:19, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Wikipedian Club de Fútbol Monterrey fans. VegaDark (talk) 17:37, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Wikipedians who support Rayados del Monterrey Not correct with the other categories requires renaming.

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May 5

Category:Wikipedians who refuse to wear fur.

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 19:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Limerent Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was delete. VegaDark (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Limerent Wikipedians - "A list of Wikipedians that have a crush on someone." - If not "all-inclusive", would seem to be close to it. - jc37 08:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
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Category:Young adult Wikipedians

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The result of the debate was delete. VegaDark (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Young adult Wikipedians - "This category is for Wikipedia editors who are adolescents, twentysomethings or thirtysomethings." - Duplicates: Category:Wikipedians in their teens, Category:Wikipedians in their 20s, Category:Wikipedians in their 30s. - jc37 07:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, silly category. I just indef-blocked the creator. Picaroon (Talk) 22:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This category has no relevance to Wikipedia. It goes witout saying that some Wikipedians contribute using more than one IP address.
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Category:User pig

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The result of the debate was Delete all - jc37 12:00, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having a hard time imagining the use of these for categorisation purposes. But if kept, they at least need to be renamed due to the existance of Pisabo. (And as an exception to the notice at the top of this page, we should consider this discussion an attempt to determine consensus on what the associated userbox templates should be renamed to as well.) Is pl taken? - jc37 10:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 4

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The result of the debate was Delete - didn't depopulate per comment below, though it was a single user. - jc37 11:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious nonsense. May be speedyable if this UCFD can be considered precedent. VegaDark 22:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was No consensus - If, as suggested in the discussion, this category is about such voting on Wikipedia, it should be renominated for a rename along those lines. - jc37 11:50, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially a "not" category, categorizing users in this can not facilitate collaboration. VegaDark 22:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait, what? This isn't a category for people who oppose instant runoff voting on Wikipedia, and if it is it really needs renamed to make that clear, so I really don't see what that has to do with anything at all. --]
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May 3

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The result of the debate was Delete - Listified the Film Barnstar recipients to the already existing list at

Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Spotlight#Film Barnstar. I left the wikihalo recipients as redlinks to the category due to the messy (scattered redlinks) way in which Wikihalo and its subpages and templates were dealt with, and because most of the links were on archived pages. - jc37 11:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
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Wikipedia:Wikihalo deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikihalo2, this should go too. --Iamunknown 11:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded nomination per User:VegaDark's comments. - jc37 19:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as nominator. --Iamunknown 11:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose - Throughout the AfD discussion, comments clearly said that they felt that recipients were deserving, just that they opposed what they saw as a bureaucratic process. So the removal of the process doesn't mean we should remove the category of those who have received the awards. - jc37 18:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, along with Category:Wikipedians by Wikipedia award and the film barnstar recipients one. When this was nominated last time, one of the only reasons presented for keeping it was because it was a special award that can only be given out via a vote. Now that point is moot, since it can be given out by anyone for any reason, and people can just check what pages the image is used on to find the recipients (just like for every other award). A category is redundant and not needed. VegaDark 18:37, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. From what I've seen, the Wikihalo seems to be an arbitrary subjective award. That alone poses bureaucracy issues, similar to editcountitis.--WaltCip 20:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • In fact, I'd like to emphasize that it's VERY much like editcountitis. Any admin who is deserving enough of a Barnstar does not require a category; one could merely look at the main page to see them. I'd like to use as my favorite example,
      Mailer Diablo. That guy has a showcase for his Barnstars; he doesn't need a category for them for it to be known. Plus, there's little collaborative value involved (unless you somehow make the argument that a Wikipedian with a barnstar has better editing quality than everyone else... and then it REALLY becomes subjective.)--WaltCip 20:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. If wikihalos are gone, so too should be the category. Oren0 02:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - If deleted (which is starting to look like the general consensus), We should allow the WikiProject, at least, to make a list sub-page, if they wish, before it's deleted. - jc37 09:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as the awards are arbitrarily given. Subpagify if WikiProject-endorsed. –Pomte 17:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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May 2

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The result of the debate was speedy upmerge per original creator request below. VegaDark 18:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to the already existing Category:International Baccalaureate Wikipedians, and should be upmerged. VegaDark 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Merge to Category:User hu-1. - jc37 16:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense babel category. VegaDark 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete - jc37 16:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No 6-level categories, please. This is nonsense. VegaDark 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Speedy Delete Contrary to Wikipedia:Userboxes#Content which user categories fall under as well (per Wikipedia:Userboxes#Category inclusion). Express likes (or rarely, dislikes} - but not both in a single category (or userbox for that matter). - jc37 10:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense babel category. "This user can write XHTML, and knows why it's better than HTML." VegaDark 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was to postpone/bypass this debate, see

above discussion of all Pig Latin categories. Picaroon (Talk) 00:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply
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No such thing as speaking pig Latin at a professional level. VegaDark 22:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians in the Americas

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The result of the debate was upmerge. VegaDark (talk) 01:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UpMerge Category:Wikipedians in the Americas sub-cats to Category:Wikipedians by location, and depopulate. - Unnecessary category level. - jc37 07:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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