Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Chicken February 2009-1.jpg

Panning shot

Reason

Illustrates panning clearly using an original subject. The motion blur in most of the hen's body and legs adds to the feel of motion

Articles this image appears in

Panning (camera)

Creator

Alvesgaspar (talk)

• Support as nominator --Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Good EV and very nice shot. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 17:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. Durova^Charge! 19:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, there have been a number of credible attempts at panning shot FPs, but this one is the most appropriate I've seen for that panning article.--ragesoss (talk) 21:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose This is actually quite a poor example of a pan - the head of the chicken should have been much sharper (everything in this shot is more or less blurred). I don't think it's a very good subject to illustrate panning since so little of the chicken could be kept sharp by panning because the chicken is moving up and down at the same time as it's moving to the side. Cars and other vehicles are much better subjects as you can get the main subject really quite sharp whilst motion blurring the background. Finally a higher contrast background would have enhanced the visual appeal of the panning - eg the background here has many sharply defined motion lines. --Fir0002 22:32, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Support per Ragesoss and nominator.--mbz1 (talk) 01:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose There are better examples such as this featured picture --Muhammad(talk) 02:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Fir and Muhammad. There are many better examples of this technique. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Per nom WiiWillieWiki 15:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Actually I disagree that the others are better examples of panning. I think all (Fir0002's and Fcb981's included) complement each other quite well. Fir's truck pan shows that in wide angle shots, diferent parts of the subject move at different speeds (Relative to the plane of the camera, that is. Obviously all of the truck is moving forward at the same actual rate). Fcb981's motorcycle shows how panning separates the subject from the background well, and this nominated image shows how panning with a relatively long exposure allows the actual elements of movement within the subject to blur while keeping one part of the subject sharp. Each shows a different technique/result from panning. I'm surprised that Fcb891's image was removed from the article actually as I think it illustrates panning better than the racing car (although that is obviously a high quality image too, so we're spoilt for choice). Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 17:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. A very good illustration of the subject involved. Spinach Dip 20:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - While the motorcycle is also valuable, I think we need to see something running if we're going to see all aspects of panning, so it has high EV. This is about as good as such a thing could be. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Oppose per Fir. With all the photographers around here, I'd think we could find a much better picture to illustrate Panning (camera). Makeemlighter (talk) 00:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Per the article "used to suggest fast motion, and bring out foreground from background", I only see the former, not the latter, in this example. It is a good photo nonetheless.
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  • The article is a bit misleading though, as panning doesn't always bring out the foreground from background, it is just a side effect that is sometimes used creatively by photographers. I think it is a bit harsh to judge the image on the quote which you and I know to be a minor misrepresentation in the article. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 11:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak oppose - IMHO this does a much better job of illustrating that ability of chickens to keep their heads still while moving. I don't know what it's called, or whether we have an article on it. For panning it's weak: "When you pan with a subject, the subject stays sharp. Unless it's a chicken, in which case you get a blurry mess." Stevage 01:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah I'm actually considering replacing this shot in the article with File:2007 swifts creek lawnmower races05.jpg or another of my lawnmower series as I think it's a much more effective pan --Fir0002 09:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • You're right that the lawnmower pan is a good shot and should be in the article. As I said, we're spoilt for choice as far as images go, but I still think that the chicken illustrates a creative use of panning that the others don't. Obviously if you only have one or two images in the article, a naive viewer might assume that the chicken shot is typical, but as I mentioned in my original vote above, if a variety of images (the lawnmower, the chicken, your [[:File:Truck with motion blur.jpg|truck, and perhaps Fcb981's motorcycle) illustrating different creative uses of panning also included good captions to explain them, then I think a greater understanding would result than just one or two textbook examples of panning that are technically very good, but don't show the full gamut of panning possibilities. Just my opinion. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 10:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Maybe this image would find a better home at
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  • I don't know...there are a lot of images in the article, and this would probably end up in a gallery.
    Nominate! 17:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply
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