Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Haematopus fuliginosus - Doughboy Head.jpg

Sooty Oystercatcher (2)

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 15 Jan 2019 at 03:24:24 (UTC)

Reason: I owe this image a renomination. The original nomination reason was "It's of high quality and encyclopedic value". On reflection, it's a little premature to consider delisting of File:Haematopus fuliginosus Bruny.jpg. I still think the FP star should be moved, so if/when the nominated image is featured, I'll do a substitution and separate delisting nomination then.
Articles in which this image appears: Sooty Oystercatcher
(and potentially others)
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator: JJ Harrison

Support as nominator – MER-C 03:24, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support : As far as there is no proposal for "delist and replace", I support this. DreamSparrow ^Chat 12:38, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Aye, I did me best to sort those ones out, but.... it gets confusing when you change the scope of a nom. FPs 16:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Support JJ Harrison (talk) 02:33, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't mind delisting and replacing, but I do not think we should have 2 pictures of the exact same bird featured at once. Why not delist and replce? Mattximus (talk) 21:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Mattximus: The last one failed to be promoted, or the old delisted because it was turned into a delist and replace after starting, and that's not permitted. And nothing will ever get delisted pre-emptively. I, for one, would instantly vote "oppose" if anyone tried that. Arguing procedure isn't helpful here; what you want is a policy change that allows that kind of change to delist and replace. Also, realise that there's problems with that in and of itself - look at the crow one, where one of the usages of the alternative was very high value for an entirely different class of articles. In that case, a delist and replace would fail, and it couldn't be turned into a promote.

We either need to separate them, or make rules for adding replacements to a nomination that's ongoing. Anything else is just going to be hugely problematic. FPs 04:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment Should be promoted once other image is delisted. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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FPs 04:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Can someone design a delist and replace? There's a facility in VI to do it. I'd be happy to support if the FP nominator (not the author) promises to delist once the new image is promoted. Can we agree to that and add to nomination guidelines? See talk page --Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:07, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Charlesjsharp: It's a little more complicated than that. The problem is there's no way to move between a nomination and a delist and replace, and there are some subjects - and I'd argue birds can be one - where there's a little ambiguity as to whether an image should be delisted if a new one is added.

Let's move this to
FPs 07:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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support as the nominator will delist the exisitng FP as soon as this is promoted. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Haematopus fuliginosus - Doughboy Head.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 03:26, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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