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April 17
File:Bill Cipher.jpg
- File:Bill Cipher.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 23W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Although this file is accompanied by critical commentary, the commentary is not about the depicted scene but rather about the depicted character
- Keep: the "critical commentary" discusses the début of the character, which is an important feature of the episode. That is, it discusses the idea "début of Bill Cipher" (important scene of episode) rather than the idea "character named Bill Cipher". Cremastra (talk) 22:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 06:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
For older nominations, see the archives.
Discussions approaching conclusion
Discussions with at least 6 full days since nomination. After 7 days, they may be closed.
April 18
File:The Wolverine posterUS.jpg
- File:The Wolverine posterUS.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jdremix540 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This poster's role of identifying The Wolverine (film) can be achieved with c:File:The Wolverine Trailer Exclusive (2013).webm, a freely-licensed promotional trailer on Commons. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 00:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- In what way does a trailer better achieve a quick visual identification of the movie than an image of the poster? Poster images are the standard way of identifying movies in this top image. If you feel the trailer is worth including in the article consider imbedding it further down the page, underneath the quick facts side bar for example. I am not convinced there is any legitimate argument for replacing the poster image with a video file as a quick identifying image. AJRitchieCreates (talk) 11:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose and speedy close Eh? Please read WP:FILMPOSTER. And how is this thumbnail image of the trailer recognizable or representative of the film?? InfiniteNexus (talk) 23:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep per above. If a poster exist, it should be used/prioritized. Don't use the technicalities of any rule to make an article worse. WP:COMMONSENSE. Neocorelight (Talk) 10:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)]
File:Champaign Urbana Mass Transit District Logo.png
- File:Champaign Urbana Mass Transit District Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CasualmaleXL (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The image was designed in Illinois, USA, and the design is too simple to meet the threshold for copyright protection. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 07:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
File:OTMA.jpg
- File:OTMA.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Miguelemejia (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, superseded by File:OTMA in 1914.jpg on Commons. ✗plicit 14:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Frisianlonghouse.png
- File:Frisianlonghouse.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JanKeizer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned, superseded by File:Langhuis.jpg on Commons. Ineligible for speedy deletion due to different file formats. ✗plicit 14:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Anguilla Commonwealth Games.png
- File:Anguilla Commonwealth Games.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is the logo of the Anguilla Commonwealth Games Association, not of the participating country of Anguilla, which uses the country's flag as the primary emblem. As such, it's not a logo of the entity in question (and the association doesn't have a Wikipedia article), and so fails
]File:Bahamas Commonwealth Games.png
- File:Bahamas Commonwealth Games.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is the logo of the Bahamas Commonwealth Games Association, not of the participating country of Bahamas, which uses the country's flag as the primary emblem. As such, it's not a logo of the entity in question (and the association doesn't have a Wikipedia article), and so fails
]File:Anitta's anal tattoo.png
- File:Anitta's anal tattoo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RodRabelo7 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Violation of privacy. According to the article, this photo was leaked rather than made public by the subject. Kk.urban (talk) 15:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Kangaroo Bay.jpg
- File:Kangaroo Bay.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 42° South (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A painting which from the State Library of Tasmania which they variously credit to artist F.J. Lloyd (d. 1956) (for instance on this instagram post) or treat as the work of an unknown artist (as on this blog entry). Since the latest attribution to F. J. Lloyd is from 8 weeks ago, I would tend not to treat it as an anonymous work but as a work by Lloyd, which would then be under copyright in Australia until 2026 inclusive. Whether it is still in copyright in the US would depend on its publication history, and thus whether it was catalogued or exhibited somewhere where copies could be made freely. Unfortunately, I was unable to find anything on its exhibition history, and it is unlikely to be common knowledge given the present uncertainty about its authorship. Felix QW (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Kearley Calcutta.jpg
- File:Kearley Calcutta.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Majormax (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Painting by Dacre Smyth (1923-2008). While the exact date of creation is not given, it will certainly have been after 1928, and Australian copyright will still run until 2078 inclusive. While the file is in use in three articles, I doubt that a modern depiction of a historical event over 200 years ago satisfies the criteria for non-free content. Felix QW (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Kearney 1953.jpg
- File:Kearney 1953.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sticks66 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
US copyright in this 1953 Australian image was restored by the
File:Undertale-sans-fight.gif
- File:Undertale-sans-fight.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kung Fu Man (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is a disputed
- Creator Keep A significant part of the reception for the Undertale version of the track, as stated, is due to the intensity of the Sans Genocide Route fight in the game. Given the tendency for the track to be associated with that, and by extension this character, it serves as the best means to convey to the reader what exactly that part of the subject is.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above as my watchlist alerted me. It should be fine with the first paragraph commentaries. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'd urge you to explain why you believe the first paragraph is fine. As I mentioned in my nomination statement, there is no significant discussion of the actual battle nor any of its visuals in the article's prose, which naturally focuses on the music. The only text that could be considered related is the image's caption, which is a circular argument for keeping, not even to mention that it's unsourced. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per others. The Reception discusses Megalovania in association with the intensity of the fight. The GIF displays the opening portion of Sans's fight, which is probably the best method of actually showing the intensity visually, and how Megalovania works alongside it. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 04:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Recent nominations
April 19
File:Armenia–OSCE office logo.jpg
- File:Armenia–OSCE office logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Archives908 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid FUR. Asserted to be used as a logo but File:OSCE_logo.svg exists. Fails NFCC1. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 02:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom, fails WP:NFCC#1 as File:OSCE logo.svg exists and is a free logo. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)]
File:2024 Lok Sabha elections logo.png
- File:2024 Lok Sabha elections logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CptViraj (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doesn't significantly enhance the reader's understanding, so fails
File:True Files Lee Kim Lai 1.jpg
- File:True Files Lee Kim Lai 1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Huaiwei (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The file is a screenshot of a television re-enactment of the murder of
In short, the file is only used as a replaceable illustration in the article, and as a re-enactment its value is even less when compared with true historical images. The file therefore violates
]File:Tanah Merah Accident.jpg
- File:Tanah Merah Accident.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Huaiwei (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The file is a television screenshot of a traffic accident in Singapore involving police officers, and is used in List of Singapore police officers killed in the line of duty. As a list to record Singaporean fallen police officers, his case is not the main topic of the article (see also the comments in #File:True Files Lee Kim Lai 1.jpg), and its omission would not be detrimental to the readers' understanding.
Moreover,
is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. As an illustration in the article that solely to demonstrate "2 police officers died in an accident", the file is clearly not the subject of sourced commentary.
In short, the file violates
]- Delete per nom. Queen of ♡ | speak 22:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)]
April 20
File:Buzz Lightyear.png
- File:Buzz Lightyear.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Carniolus (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Although Toy Story's Buzz Lightyear is currently protected by copyright, and although it won't be protected by copyright until 2101 or later, try to avoid using fair use images if there are free copyrighted images, currently in Commons has a Buzz Lightyear statue in Shanghai, China, which is considered a freely licensed image for FoP reasons. The image of the statue is also close in size to the fair use image. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 09:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Presuming this is the image being referred to, the lighing on the image could cause visibility issues. (Oinkers42) (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Seconding Oinkers here. The darkness obscures the face of the character greatly. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
April 21
File:Dragon Fish, C418, 2018.jpg
- File:Dragon Fish, C418, 2018.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ToNeverFindTheMets (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Originally nominated for speedy deletion by @TechnoSquirrel69 with the reason: "My concerns that got this file deleted previously still exist. This cover art seems to a represent a single, not the album." Fastily 06:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
File:This is the front cover art for the book The Toughest Man who Ever Lived written by Nori Bunasawa and John Murray.jpg
- File:This is the front cover art for the book The Toughest Man who Ever Lived written by Nori Bunasawa and John Murray.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DN27ND (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Non-free book cover being used in a
April 22
File:Parannoul - Beautiful World.ogg
- File:Parannoul - Beautiful World.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Skyshifter (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
skeptical about the sample's
- Keep I've added more commentary about the song in the caption, sourced. I think an audio file is almost always very important to album articles. Music is extremely hard to explain with text alone. I think the audio helps the reader significantly in understanding the album's composition. Skyshiftertalk 10:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The sample is one representative of the album's sound, and it has commentaries. The album cover literally tells nothing about anything. Neocorelight (Talk) 11:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I forgot to respond to that. Agree, it's absolutely impossible to tell what to expect of the album (or any album) just from the cover art. Skyshiftertalk 12:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Fortunately, we don't have to follow nominator's skepticism and his interpretation of "contextual significance", when we have a guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples which clearly states:
"This is necessary to meet the "Contextual significance" requirement for use of non-free content: 1) the item [song or portion of] is itself the subject of sourced commentary in the article, or 2) where only by including such non-free content, can the reader identify an object, style, or behavior, that is a subject of discussion in the article".
There is commentary about the song itself (which is part of the album), the commentary is sourced, and the sample is important to identify the style of music on the album (no, a drawing on the cover says nothing about the album's sound). AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 01:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
File:The Governor (Comic Series).jpg
- File:The Governor (Comic Series).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Molcoo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A comic depiction of the character is already in the infobox. Having another one violates purpose of use (
File:Ariana Grande - Problem (feat. Iggy Azalea).png
- File:Ariana Grande - Problem (feat. Iggy Azalea).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nahnah4 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This cover art fails
- Keep The cover art used in an article about songs/albums should use the most representative version. See the case of Carnival (Kanye West and Ty Dolla Sign song), where the image used in streaming services is used as the article infobox's main image, despite the existence of a free alternative. PSA 🏕️ (talk) 11:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)]
- Keep This is nitpicking at its finest. NFCC#1 also states that it should "serve the same encyclopedic purpose" – how is using an obscure, nobody-has-seen single art used in only one country the same encyclopedic purpose as using the artwork that is used in the rest of the world? Like what PSA said, it should also be the most representative version – the version that most people recognise. That's kind of the whole point of it. Wikipedia is also not censored – why would we choose to include a single cover from a link you sent, which clearly indicates "censored" in the URL, in this case? Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 18:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)]
- P.S. Artwork OP sent isn't even reliable. Here's the single cover for Problem I found on Saudi Arabia's Apple Music – it's the exact same cover. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 18:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The cover art currently used is the most representative. Additionally, https://albumartexchange.com/ is not a reliable source for the supposed Saudi Arabian cover. Flabshoe1 (talk) 13:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Eugen Mack Free (Floor) Exercise.png
- File:Eugen Mack Free (Floor) Exercise.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Miloluvr (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused file Sangjinhwa (talk) 18:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
April 23
File:Huntertown IN seal.jpg
- File:Huntertown IN seal.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Davodd (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Dubious own-work claim. It's unclear if this seal is old enough to qualify for PD status. ✗plicit 05:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Get Ready For This - 2 Unlimited.ogg
- File:Get Ready For This - 2 Unlimited.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by The lorax (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
De-PRODding rationale was this: Music sample should NOT be deleted as it is necessary to understand the article.
Unfortunately, necessity rationale doesn't absolve the sample's potential failure to prove why omitting the sample harms the understanding of the whole song, the omission one part of
The whole sample is just music with one spoken line, and its role is the same as what
- Keep - The brief clip is shorter than most fair use audio commonly featured on Wikipedia, and I would argue is fairly representative of the entire song. The lorax (talk) 04:13, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Length of the sample isn't the main issue. The riff heard in the sample doesn't provide enough context about the entire song unless reliable sources prove its significance. So far, I haven't found sources substantially covering the riff and its significance to the song. George Ho (talk) 06:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
File:NamibiaCGA.png
- File:NamibiaCGA.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is not the logo of the Namibian team, it is the logo of the Namibia Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails
]File:Commonwealth Games New Zealand.png
- File:Commonwealth Games New Zealand.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is not the logo of the New Zealand team, it is the logo of the New Zealand Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails
]File:SEYCGA.png
- File:SEYCGA.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is not the logo of the Seychelles team, it is the logo of the Seychelles Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails
]File:Vanuatu Commonwealth Games.png
- File:Vanuatu Commonwealth Games.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is not the logo of the Vanuatu team, it is the logo of the Vanuatu Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails
]April 24
File:WildlifeBlueHeronUtah.jpg
- File:WildlifeBlueHeronUtah.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Incorrectly tagged with {{PD-USGov}}. Actually a work of the Utah DMV. https://dmv.utah.gov/plates says "Copyright © 2024 State of Utah - All rights reserved." See also https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/utah/ ⟲ Three Sixty! Talk? Work. 00:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Utah license plates
- File:ZionNationalUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SuffrageUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:WildlifeTroutUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:WildlifeEstralUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:WildlifeElkUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:WildlifeEagleUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SecondCongressUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:FirstCongressUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:ThirdLegisUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SecondLegisUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:FirstLegisUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:LawEnforceUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:PublicEducationUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:NatlGuardUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:HonorHeroUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SnowMoUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SoilConverUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:FarmVehicUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:EMTUtah.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Brian.S.W (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Some more copyrightable Utah license plates; see above. ⟲ Three Sixty! Talk? Work. 01:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Hyperspace 2020.jpg
- File:Hyperspace 2020.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Theepicguys (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Does not pass
File:4-cube 4^4.png
- File:4-cube 4^4.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Spinningspark (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The file is located on Commons but it has not been deleted because uploader added a {{Keep local}}. The file is not used on the front page or heavily used so the only reason for the Keep local is that the uploader found it easier to monitor files when they are local.
Sadly the uploader User:Spinningspark is deceased since more than a year ago so he can no longer monitor the files even if they are local. So the reason for the keep local is no longer there.
Files with a keep local can’t be deleted per
files can be deleted even if it has a keep local if uploader is no longer active and there is no other reason to keep it.Spinningspark have uploaded more files with a keep local and many of those are most likely on Commons. If this file is deleted the question is if a FFD is needed for every single file of if there is a better way. MGA73 (talk) 13:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I removed the FFD notice from Spinningspark's takl page because he is deceased. If anyone feel it is better to leave the notice there feel free to revert my removal. --MGA73 (talk) 14:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Could CSD be used with a comment that the user is deceased? Constant314 (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
File:Photo of Elsie Driggs.jpg
- File:Photo of Elsie Driggs.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WomenArtistUpdates (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Now PD on Commons: c:File:Elsie-Driggs.jpg. Yann (talk) 19:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
April 25
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