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(Closed) Limpopo bus plunge

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Proposed image
Article: Mamatlakala highway accident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A bus full of pilgrims falls from a bridge in Limpopo (pictured), killing all except an eight-year-old girl. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A bus falls from a bridge in Limpopo (pictured), killing 45.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, Le Monde, NYT, Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

Article updated
For precedents, see Carberry collision and Kenya crash. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose For all purposes this is a unfortunate traffic accident that has been associated to fault of the driver. This is the type of stuff we cover in list articles, but not standalone ones per NEVENTS, and thus not really ITN material. Masem (t) 22:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose tragic event, but seemingly lacks any long-term impact 2A02:908:676:E640:99A1:1CB2:32ED:E1E6 (talk) 22:42, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No long-term impact, and local incidents like this are why we don't have a minimum death criterion. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Provincial
    bus plunge per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Support This is de-facto discrimination. If 45 people die after a bus falls off a bridge in the United States it would be ITN in hours. Lukt64 (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, I would also disagree with having a US bus plunge on ITN. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is that it is a road accident caused by only one fault (the driver) that is likely going to have little long term impact. This is exactly what NOTNEWS and NEVENT recommends from having standalone articles on. If it was a mutli-factor situation (such as a mega-car pileup) that might be something. But normal road-traffic accidents tend to not be topics that can be expanded on further. — Masem (t) 00:14, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's discrimination based upon what's typical for a country: if this was were in the USA but a mass shooting, this would never get ITN. But were it a mass shooting in any other country it would get on the front page within a few hours. This is because the former is shot down as "Oh, a tragedy, but all too common because it's a country where there are few to no safeguards against such a thing." The exact same logic is being applied here, but for some reason people get a lot more up in arms about it when the country in question isn't the USA. Nottheking (talk) 01:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is only 4 pages on bus crashes on South Africa. Lukt64 (talk) 03:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If your intent was to argue that was evidence that bus crashes are rare in South Africa, that was a rather dubious selection. After all,
Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and thus won't record every single item of news. Rather, the fact that there's clearly a lot of crashes (a casual research pass suggests hundreds of fatal bus crashes every year, with one high-profile study showing 4,001 fatal crashes involving trucks & buses across a 5-year period) and yet only four received an article seems to be a very strong indication that such events... Are just not notable in South Africa. Nottheking (talk) 05:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Support - That's a remarkably high death toll for a single-vehicle accident. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:57, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. The article does not indicate this will have a lasting impact. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the death toll is pretty significant for this news to be ignored. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose from what I've seen of it so far, it's been a tragic accident, but a comparative "blip" news-wise: no wider scandal or fallout, for instance. Instead, it appears to be the sad result of what (in this country) appears to be commonplace poorer safety standards, which result in accidents like these not being particularly noteworthy. (e.g, a bus was towing a trailer which would dramatically hinder its handling ability, making it unsafe for driving such dangerous mountain roads) To give an analogy, it's also why few mass shootings in the United States are given ITN treatment: particularly lax gun control laws in that country & the overall cultural environment make what would be a nation-defining tragedy in virtually any other country into a commonplace occurrence.
Note that were some of these elements to change (e.g, in the next day or two a major inquiry & public investigation gets touched off by the South African national government) then that could change the picture. But as it stands, there's no indication of that happening. Nottheking (talk) 05:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Mukhtar Ansari

Article: Mukhtar Ansari (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Indian Politican.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose for now The article currently has emotive language which violates
WP:NPOV. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

RD: Larry Lloyd

Article: Larry Lloyd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo sportDaily star
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Football player needs some work.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose needs a lot more refs. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 08:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: George Gilbey

Article: George Gilbey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1] [2]
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

--2A00:23EE:14E0:15A0:D9D4:EACA:4221:4590 (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Weak support Article is short, but what is there is of sufficient quality to post. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Joe Lieberman

Article: Joe Lieberman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3] New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD
.
  • United States senator from Connecticut from 1989 to 2013. Nominee for vice president of the United States in the 2000 U.S. presidential election. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeves (talkcontribs) 22:00, 2024 March 27 (UTC)
  • Support. One section is tagged as relying on sources too close to the subject, but that is hardly the same as being unsourced. BD2412 T 22:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Extremely notable figure in U.S. Politics. Article is of high enough quality as it is now for inclusion. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 22:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personal life section has several citation needed tags. Natg 19 (talk) 22:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Found sources for all outstanding citation needed tags in that section! Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Definitely a notable figure in American politics; article is not perfect but sufficiently ready for RD. FlipandFlopped 01:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was considering posting this however, there is an orange tag in the DHS section. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ad Orientem: I have addressed the orange tag in the DHS section and added diversified sources (NYT, Bloomberg). Assuming no other issues, I think article is ready for RD. Cheers, FlipandFlopped 02:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Flipandflopped There are a number of referencing gaps that I have tagged in the article. Having edited the page, alas I am now WP:INVOLVED, so I can't post the article once it has been improved. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Too many dead refs. Just randomly wanted to check some refs. 2 of the first 3 refs are completely dead. I haven't checked the rest. Hard to determine the quality of the article when its statements can't be verified. 51.154.145.205 (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support article quality meets threshold for posting Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Democratic Vice Presidential candidate in 2000 election and long running Senator and notable for being a key figure in many hot topic political issues in the 1990's and 2000's. Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support He was the Democratic VP nominee in 2000 and was a long-serving senator who influenced major legislation like the Affordable Care Act and the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnAdams1800 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose His notability is not a requirement for him to be included in the RD, as it's already presumed by having an article on Wikipedia. Many CN tags and two subsections are orange-tagged. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural oppose per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted to RD) Blurb/RD: Daniel Kahneman

  • Nobel Prize winning author, psychologist and economist. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Almost there: very few statements lack a citation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    rather than discussing blurb or not, could we please have citations for at least two facts missing one? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Gerda. You might want to add some tags to direct effort. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, Martin, I hate tags. I saw two things:
    1. "They would continue to publish together until the end of Tversky's life, but the period when Kahneman published almost exclusively with Tversky ended in 1983, when he published two papers with Anne Treisman, his wife since 1978."
    2. Both paragraphs under "Focusing illusion" end without citation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, thanks. I also saw the first and thought it would be self-evident from his list of publications. Maybe not. Those other paragraphs are worth a look. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So I repositioned the citations for "Focusing illusion" (although primary). Alas, the article has only a list of his books, not a full list of all his publications (I'm assuming that might be quite extensive). Martinevans123 (talk) 11:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, but how is it self-edvident that she was his wife from a certain year? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that bit not self evident from a list of publications, but the year is given in the infobox and in "Personal life" where it is sourced? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This comes sooner. You could just duplicate the ref from personal, and had obliged to "have a ref at the end of each paragraph". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blurb when ready. Ktin (talk) 18:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is to be blurbed, there should be a clear section besides a few lines in the lede to explain why he was important though impact and or legacy. Just being awarded including a Nobel isn't sufficient for a blurb. Masem (t) 19:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If only we were to apply the same standard (last sentence) to the PM of Ruritania. Nfitz (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't automatically blurb former PMs when they die either. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, Oppose blurb I remember reading his work in school, especially his collaborations with Amos Tversky. That does not rise to the super-high level we need for a blurb. I think quality is sufficient for RD now, the few statements lacking citation don't need to hold this article up long. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD He was 90 and died in Parts Unknown from nothing of note. "Variants of utility" doesn't quite ring true to me, but it's footnoted and probably written for someone else. The two chunks in "Focusing illusion" could easily be deleted if backing them up with a reliable source or two proves difficult. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Old man dies.
    AATalk 01:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    In all seriousness, it doesnt rise to the level of significance for a blurb.
    AATalk 02:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    I find statements like Old man dies when used as a comment in a discussion like this, to be extremely disrespectful. Ktin (talk) 02:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    When someone suggests a blurb that would relay exactly how old a man was when he died, it seems only fair to doubt the significance of that central fact. There's really nothing else to oppose. The age at death is the news item in question. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, the blurb is the summary of the news item which is the death of the person. Age is additional information. Ktin (talk) 04:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, that's why it's in all the headlines provided above and why no such prior blurb has added a place or cause. I hope the small print means you're kidding. If not, maybe propose an ageless blurb that rather focuses on how the field of behavioural economics has been affected by the loss of its bedrock (or something RD can't say). InedibleHulk (talk) 05:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Small font because this conversation is irrelevant. Clearly you can think of a blurb which doesn’t include age. Go figure. Ktin (talk) 06:32, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was a recent blurb that was about an old man dying. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think there's ever been a moment in the history of ITN when "we recently blurbed an old person's death" didn't ring true. Kurtis (talk) 16:40, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you mean old man Mulroney, yeah, quite unfortunate. He was 84. At least in that case, further information did appear for a week or so in his death section and funeral article. Kahneman's article doesn't even have a death section. We could link the whole article, in bold, with a photo and note of how old he was. But I don't think that update is ever going to tell a reader more, so there's really no point in following along. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you calling his death unfortunate or the fact it got blurbed? Traumnovelle (talk) 23:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Both (in different ways, of course). InedibleHulk (talk) 23:56, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The current criteria for blurbing deaths allows for major figures in any domain. The question to ask is -- as someone who served as the bedrock of behavioral economics as a field of study, was Kahneman a major figure in this area. My thinking is yes. Ktin (talk) 02:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Certainly at the top of his field, one of the most influential economists of his time, and Nobel laureate. Also somewhat of a household name due to his bestselling book Thinking, Fast and Slow which encompasses much of his research. Davey2116 (talk) 03:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, a blurb on this would be an embarrassment to the Main Page. The nominator should refrain from making blurb suggestions going forward. Abductive (reasoning) 07:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not my suggestion. I'd say it was borderline. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Even if it was your suggestion, and even if said suggestion would be "an embarrassment to the Main Page", that doesn't give anyone the right to cast aspersions against you or anyone else over a difference of opinion. Kurtis (talk) 16:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps I'll just make blurb suggestions going backwards. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just as long as you're okay with receiving credit in a future that never comes. Kurtis (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Should make RD a lot more prdictable and won't take me a minute. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Seeing as a blurb has been receiving at least a modicum of support, I'd say it's not an unreasonable proposal. Kurtis (talk) 16:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, am tempted to change my mind. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Great thinker and theorist, but not really for a blurb. I included insights from the prospect theory in my master thesis some ten years ago, and the true brain who delivered that theory was
    John Forbes Nash Jr's contributions to game theory (in fact, the cornerstone in behavioural economics that most other theories descend from is the bounded rationality, and the real equivalent to Nash in behavioural economics would be Herbert A. Simon). There are also other psychologists who independently developed mainstream theories with wide applications to economics, such as Gerd Gigerenzer with his work on heuristics, so Kahneman's work isn't really a starting point for anyone working in the field. That being said, the statements that he was on top of economics as a field are quite wide off the mark.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Oppose blurb I do not think this is blurb worthy as I believe we should only blurb when the death is notable enough. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Is there anything pending for this article to go to RD? Please can someone tag / annotate accordingly if there are any editor actions needed? Ktin (talk) 18:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Joseph2302 has asked for all items in the Notable contributions section to be given sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Bit of an overkill to add references to that section. Should ideally be treated like the "See also" section. Nevertheless, I went ahead and added references to that section. So, we should be good there now. Marking ready. Ktin (talk) 01:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb. If we have to explain who the person is in the blurb, they really shouldn't be blurbed. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb not a serving head of state or government and the manner of the death is not notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:56, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb His death was not notable in and of itself, and there is only a two sentence update about it on his page. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:38, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted to RD Stephen 02:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Slađana Milošević

Article: Slađana Milošević (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sarajevo Times, BBC Serbian
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Likely well sourced. 240F:7A:6253:1:74BA:3EEC:4DCE:E68A (talk) 05:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Richard Serra

Article: Richard Serra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian CNN
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American sculptor.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Swami Smaranananda

Article: Swami Smaranananda (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Hindu Monk.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Posted) Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse

Article: Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Francis Scott Key Bridge collapses (bridge pictured) after it is hit by a container ship at Baltimore, Maryland. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Francis Scott Key Bridge (pictured) collapses after it is hit by a container ship at Baltimore, Maryland.
News source(s): BBC News Online
Credits:

Article updated

Major US bridge collapse. Potential for a high number of casualties. Mjroots (talk) 08:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know, and while I'd rather not see this feed run entirely on precedents, those are relevant points in favour of posting. But there is nonetheless a persistent strain of argument from various quarters that diminishes mass casualty events outside Europe and North America. In this case, all I'm arguing for is modest caution. This is a developing story, and it's likely to be posted for good reason. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of those had 100 deaths and the other was the world's longest suspension bridge. No opinion on this nom, but those aren't good comparisons. AryKun (talk) 10:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You might equally say that one was just a footbridge and the other had no deaths. The best comparison is with the current bottom blurb which would be replaced by this one. That's the Portuguese election which was over two weeks ago and so is longer in the news. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't care if it was a cartoon log over a canyon that collapsed if the number of deaths was 135 in this instance. Great job entering a discussion where people are talking about arguments that diminish "mass casualty events outside Europe and North America" and doing exactly that. AryKun (talk) 14:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the talk page analysis, there's a table of noms. This currently lists 10 disasters/natural disasters. Six of these were in South Asia but none at all in Europe or the US. So, this is the first US one that we've had for a while. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
South Asia has roughly six times the US's population and way more creaky infrastructure, it obviously has more mass casualty events. Just because American newspapers tend to feature American and non-American events as their headline about the same number of times doesn't mean that the US is magically as important as the rest of the world combined. My comment above was specifically about your "just a footbridge" comment; if 135 people died in the Anglosphere because they sank into the sidewalk, you wouldn't be making the same flippant remarks. AryKun (talk) 18:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Significant destruction of a major engineering structure with international coverage. Alt1 preferred but either are ok. yorkshiresky (talk) 09:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- this is awful. Likely 20 people have fallen in the water and at this point they have likely died of hypothermia. It's horrible. --RockstoneSend me a message! 10:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - major story which has been given a dedicated live feed on BBC, and with 20+ people missing it's just as presumptuous for us to assume there are no deaths as it is for us to assume there are. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yet when twenty people are confirmed dead in a transportation accident in the Global South, the usual suspects turn up here with tired arguments about 'bus plunges'. I'm leaning more and more in favour of this story being posted - but let's not kid ourselves that ITN !voters treat all such cases fairly. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's to miss the key thing being noted, which is how atypical such an event is. When striving to take efforts to avoid being tunnel-visioned, one would notice (for instance) that a mass shooting event rarely makes ITN... If it occurred in the United States. However, mass shootings elsewhere on the globe very readily get posted, because they are unusual for those countries. So to prescribe one effect as purely one form of bias is to ignore the reality of the broader picture. Nottheking (talk) 10:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point. It's certainly not my intention to claim this is a universal problem with a single right solution. I would just like to see some fairness. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is definitely a very unusual disaster of high encyclopedic value which sends a clear message that the infrastructure built in the 1970s may not be sufficient to accommodate the current transport needs carried on the modern watercraft.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: it is now clear that this is a major event, and the article is good enough to stand on the front page given the high value of putting the event there. UndercoverClassicist T·C 11:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article quality is only going to improve and this is very clearly ITN. Kcmastrpc (talk) 11:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. A major and unusual infrastructure disaster, the artticle is in good enough shape already. Nsk92 (talk) 11:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Major piece of infrastructure involved, completely destroyed, and making world headlines. 108.7.44.20 (talk) 11:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Highly unusual event that is receiving widespread global news coverage. FlipandFlopped 12:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability due to the extreme abnormality of this event. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Abnormal, outstanding event. Article is good. -Bedivere (talk) 13:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Good job on the article, and the international press coverage shows there may be an effect on commerce.
    Kablammo (talk) 13:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Support Not only is the impact on shipping and traffic notable, the media seems to be taking this by storm. Gøøse060 (talk) 14:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per above, Event is notable despite lack of major casualties, Editor 5426387 (talk) 14:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Major infrastructure collapse. Biggest headline on CNN and BBC. Djprasadian (talk) 14:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support fucking crazy shit Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 14:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Alt 1. Courcelles (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just found out Commons is firewalled at my location's network, so any sysop please feel free to copy over the image, protect, and change to the bridge. Thanks.
    Courcelles (talk) 14:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You beat me to posting. I've added two bridge images to the protection page. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:47, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not opposing the posting, but MUST comment on the international coverage. I'm in Australia. Our media LOVES content from the USA, and LOVES dramatic imagery. This was a certainty to get coverage in Australia's news. That doesn't make it more important than a less dramatic and more deadly event, of which we have no pics, in a third world country. HiLo48 (talk) 22:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia can only report on what it is given. --RockstoneSend me a message! 23:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia must always be vigilant to not allow its
systemic biases to get in the way of balanced reporting. HiLo48 (talk) 00:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Comment: Can an admin change the image on the mainpage to ? It illustrates the disaster better. Bremps... 23:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Add it to the image protection queue (see navbox at top of page) and give a bot about an hour to apply protection. Masem (t) 23:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can't; I don't have enough permissions to edit that page.
Or was that an instruction to an admin? Bremps... 23:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot that the image prot. page is admin protected, and couldn't easily edit it from my phone. The image has since been added and protected, and I have swapped the photo. — Masem (t) 04:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support per above. Six people are presumed dead in this bridge collapse. Davey2116 (talk) 04:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question: should the (presumed) 6 fatalities now be added to the blurb? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it should be added. Jbvann05 19:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@
WP:ERRORS for a faster response. Natg 19 (talk) 05:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
It's best asked here, it's already been removed from Errors as it's a change to an existing blurb. I personally don't see the need to mention deaths as that number is not something that would normally drive a posting. Stephen 05:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Stephen. In the big scheme of things, the fatalities are not what makes this event notable. Therefore, it's not necessary to expand the blurb for this. Schwede66 07:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thirded, Stephen and Schwede. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 25

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Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Politics and elections


RD: Elisabeth Guttenberger

Article: Elisabeth Guttenberger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/mannheim/holocaust-ueberlebende-elisabeth-guttenberger-gestorben-100.html
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

Romani Holocaust survivor and human rights activist. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 04:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Ian Heads

Article: Ian Heads (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nrl.com/news/2024/03/25/vale-ian-heads-oam/
Credits:
Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

Australian historian, journalist, commentator and author. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 04:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Claude Alphandéry

Article: Claude Alphandéry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Needs Expansion. Thriley (talk) 13:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Diana Wall

Article: Diana Wall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Colorado State University News
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Scientist.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Posted) RD: Günther Leib

Article: Günther Leib (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gotha
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

Internationally performing baritone, whose death (on 3 March) was entered here only yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Support everything looks well sourced and ready to go. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 23:17, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Senegalese presidential election

Article: 2024 Senegalese presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Bassirou Diomaye Faye is elected President of Senegal. (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Rival candidates have conceded defeat meaning Faye has won BastianMAT (talk) 16:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Support. Massive feat in Senegalese history. Jebiguess (talk) 16:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks good and sourced. Terminator46man (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article seems well-written and well-sourced, marking as Ready. The Kip 18:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 23:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update The associated picture does not reflect the image of the elected President Heatrave (talk) 12:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull. Still very limited results in the article (.3% reporting) and the article states the results are not finalized yet. I believe this posting was a tad premature. DarkSide830 (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Results aren't finalized, but the opposition has conceded defeat and the election is widely reported as a Faye victory. DecafPotato (talk) 00:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Very few of the articles I've read state that he's won, more that he's "projected to", "likely to" or is "expected to" win. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again: The opposition has conceded, as has been widely reported in reliable sources. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Projected to" is generally the bar we use or, more specifically, the fact that reliable sources are calling it. In the US presidential election of 2020, the opposition rather notably did not concede the election, but we still posted once reliable sources projected the win for the Democratic candidate.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:00, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I'm not arguing that we should only post when the opposition concedes. But when it comes to assessing reliable sources for who has won the election, the defeated party saying they're defeated is pretty significant. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What exactly is going on? Conceding an election with .3% reporting is bizarre. Is there any more context we can give in the blurb? Bremps... 17:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Incumbent APR party was extremely unpopular due to some pretty blatant corruption, and opposition candidate Faye had some big endorsements, so it was already expected that he was going to win by a landslide. Election was free and fair keeping up with Senegal's strong democratic traditions, nothing unusual here. Curbon7 (talk) 06:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) UNSC ceasefire resolution

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Article: 
Israel-Hamas war and the immediate unconditional release of all hostages.
News source(s): NPR Aljazeera CNN

Credits:
First UNSC res to pass for ceasefire. US abstained. Big news story. Israel won't send delegation, deepening rift in relations. Personisinsterest (talk) 16:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment would rather wait to see if both sides actually abide by this. The UNSC can call for a ceasefire but that's got little enforcement weight behind it. -Masem (t) 16:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose it is unlikely for it to actually happen, but support if it does happen Ion.want.uu (talk) 16:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We already have an entry for Gaza in Ongoing and there have been repeated hostage and ceasefire proposals before. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As far as I can tell, this resolution won't necessarily have any real effects for getting a ceasefire. Of course, if a ceasefire actually happens, then that would be notable enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose covered by ongoing. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as covered by ongoing. The Kip 18:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Covered by Ongoing. Editor 5426387 (talk) 18:47, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Imogen Stuart

Article: Imogen Stuart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/03/25/prolific-irish-german-sculptor-imogen-stuart-dies-aged-96/
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD
.

Notable German–Irish sculptor who died aged 96 leaving behind a significant body of work. Page as is is cited, but does need some more expansion which am still working on...will take a day or two. Ceoil (talk) 03:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 24

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Judith Hemmendinger

Article: Judith Hemmendinger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): inn
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Centenarian psychologist who helped children survivors of the Holocaust. Found article in fine shape. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Takerufuji Mikiya

Article: Takerufuji Mikiya (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Takerufuji Mikiya becomes the first sumo wrestler in 110 years to win a championship in the sport's highest division during his first tournament at that level. (Post)
News source(s): 1, 2, 3 (in English) 4, 5 (in Japanese)
Credits:

Rare feat in an ancient sport like sumo, although the tournament was won on March 24. Potentially complicated but at least worth discussing. OtharLuin (talk) 10:48, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Unfortunately not ITN/R and not really that notable to be ITN-material. TwistedAxe [contact] 10:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Whilst a notable achievement, this doesn't really stand out overall. Our usual ITN story for sumo is the promotion of a new yokozuna. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Not being ITN/R is a plus as that means it's not routine. And it seems to be a once-in-a-century record. It's also a non-Anglo sport which provides some diversity. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on notability as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as trivia. Just because something is rare doesn't mean it is important. If he rises to the top of sumo (by becoming
    yokozuna) then we'll post that. One tournament along the way isn't suitable. Modest Genius talk 12:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Support Once-in-a-century achievement, and a good quality article. Would make a refreshing change to highlight something like this at ITN. That there is an ITN/R entry for sumo doesn't preclude us from posting something different once in a while. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:40, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. This is a rare achievement, but he hasn't become the top of sumo yet. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The oppose votes here seem very circular and gatekeep-y to me. We should not post this to ITN as this is not the kind of thing we post at ITN. In what way does this not meet our purpose? A recent event, getting wide coverage in the media, leading to a substantial, quality update to the encyclopedia. Let me put it this way: would posting this story help or hurt the project? It's a no-brainer. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the essence of this story is an athlete happening to win a major championship the first time they participated in that. That sounds like a happenstance and does not reflect on a career-spanning achievement, which would be a better story for ITN' s purpose. Masem (t) 16:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most people are destined to die, yet their death is recorded in ITN. I honestly don't see why achieving a feat that hasn't been seen for a century should be disqualifying just because an athlete is doing his job... and on the subject of "career-spanning achievement", I think that, on the contrary, people now remember Takeruufuji precisely because he achieved this performance. - OtharLuin (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Their death is recorded on ITN at the bottom of template in a smaller subsection with a bunch of other names, not at the big list of news that prominently sticks out and you read first, where the target article is bolded and highlighted in an entire sentence amongst the other news. Comparing this blurb nomination to an RD is not right. 2001:4651:F168:0:F55B:64A8:3A9C:A50A (talk) 21:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as trivia. nableezy - 16:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kuriga kidnapping

Article: Kuriga kidnapping (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nearly three-hundred abducted students are released after the kidnapping in Kuriga, Nigeria on March 7th. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Nearly three-hundred students are released after being kidnapped in the Kuriga kidnapping in Nigeria.
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated

Bremps... 23:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The initial kidnapping apparently flew under the radar, but the release is probably also ITN-worthy. A BBC piece (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-68649221) states that the army contested the number of students released (137 instead of 280), but I cannot find this information elsewhere. Bremps... 23:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would also appreciate an altblurb because I apparently suck at writing these things Bremps... 23:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability due to the scale of the event being larger than many of the previous kidnappings in the Nigerian bandit conflict. Oppose on quality due to the article being a stub, and having multiple statements in the infobox unsupported elsewhere. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: George Abbey (NASA)

Article: George Abbey (NASA) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://nasawatch.com/personnel-news/george-abbey
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

A list of sources is provided. Help is needed to place more citations inline. Flibirigit (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Péter Eötvös

Article: Péter Eötvös (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Magyar Nemzet
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Hungarian composer, conductor and teacher. 240F:7A:6253:1:54D8:C475:B710:FFE (talk) 08:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Closed) McDonald's closed in Sri Lanka

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Articles: McDonald's (talk · history · tag) and Abans (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ McDonald's outlets in Sri Lanka have been closed down due to the poor quality supply of food items and unhygienic food items in Sri Lanka and Abans is removed as franchisee of McDonald’s. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
  • Oppose Minor business news, which we normally don't post. --Masem (t) 02:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above --- RockinJack18 02:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. Also ITN requires a dedicated article. Natg 19 (talk) 03:37, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not true, it requires (outside of RDs) a significant update to an article. Whether thats a new one or an existing one, it just must be significant. — Masem (t) 03:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and close per above. Far too minor for ITN. The Kip 05:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. Heatrave (talk) 06:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Reviewers needed) RD: Amaechi Muonagor

Article: Amaechi Muonagor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC PidginPunchNG
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

Heatrave (talk) 22:06, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Closed) RD: Brigitte García

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Article: Brigitte García (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Microplastic Consumer (talkcontribs) 19:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Oppose Not notable. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 11:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Simon Harris (politician) in the 2024 Fine Gael leadership election

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Mentioned in the "Fine Gael leadership" section of
Simon Harris (politician) as well. There may be a better article more suited for this nomination, and the article likely needs more updates. Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Unless I am mistaken LV was the youngest taoiseach when he gained the office, so it works, but the main blurb is better. Black Kite (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support main blurb, altblurb is a bit clumsy. BilboBeggins (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hold until Harris becomes PM This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until he becomes Taoiseach, as per Gödel2200. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. Even though it's likely he will become the Taoiseach, it still has to go to a vote of the Dáil Éireann and then be appointed by the President. Only then should it be ITN Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:04, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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March 23

Armed conflicts and attacks

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Reviewers needed) RD: Eli Noyes

Article: Eli Noyes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

U.S. stop motion animator. gobonobo + c 09:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Weak oppose for now The filmography needs a few more references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Blaylockjam10: I've removed the items in the filmography that were unsourced until we can find references for them. gobonobo + c 00:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support This article has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Shahryar Khan

Article: Shahryar Khan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN Cricinfo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Diplomat and former chairman of PCB. Ktin (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

  • Thanks @Spencer:, I have added references and removed the CN tags. Please have a look at your convenience. Ktin (talk) 02:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Maurizio Pollini

Article: Maurizio Pollini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Notable pianist.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Posted) RD: Peter Angelos

Article: Peter Angelos (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Needs work. Will be worked on. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC) Should be fine now? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Laurent de Brunhoff

Article: Laurent de Brunhoff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, WaPo, People
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Author of the Babar the Elephant series since 1941. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 18:13, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

March 22

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections


RD: Partha Sarathi Deb

Article: Partha Sarathi Deb (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu, NDTV
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Veteran Bengali actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:A148:57EA:9AF:7A84 (talk) 06:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Closed) Catherine Princess of Wales announces cancer diagnosis

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Article: Catherine, Princess of Wales (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Catherine, Princess of Wales, announces a diagnosis of cancer. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/22/uk/kate-princess-of-wales-cancer-diagnosis-intl-gbr/index.html
Credits:
It isn't often a Princess announces a personal matter like this. Urbanracer34 (talk) 00:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) 2024 Crocus City Hall attack

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Article: 
A mass shooting and explosions kill more than 40 people at the Crocus City Hall (pictured in 2013) in Krasnogorsk, Russia. (Post)
News source(s): NBC

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Developing situation - article likely needs more work as events unfold. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Maybe mention ISIS in the blurb as they have just claimed responsibility Prodrummer619 (talk) 21:30, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gödel2200: I've removed your nom, as Staraction was slightly faster in nominating. Natg 19 (talk) 18:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - should blurb reference Krasnogorsk, Moscow Oblast, Moscow, or some combination of the three? Staraction (talk | contribs) 19:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say something like at the
queen of 🖤 (they/them; chat) 20:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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I've opted for the latter - thank you !! Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cryptic 20:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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changed as such, thank you! Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both Watford and Gaithersburg are administratively separate from those cities (Watford being part of Hertfordshire County, not London region; Gaithersburg in Maryland, not the District of Columbia). In contrast, Krasnogorsk is a part of Moscow Oblast, and as per COMMONNAME an overwhelming amount of sources describe the attack as taking place in Moscow, best to reflect it as such (important to show that this didn't happen in an unremarkable town in the vastness of Russia but right in the heart of the country). PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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