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July 16

Health and environment

Politics and elections


RD: Jacques Boudet

Article: Jacques Boudet (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Figaro
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

French actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:64A3:5EA7:A3BF:F045 (talk) 09:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

July 15

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology


RD: Norm Hewitt

Article: Norm Hewitt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New Zealand Herald
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

New Zealand All Blacks rugby union player. 240F:7A:6253:1:3588:1738:72A2:F85A (talk) 07:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Closed) Chinese cooking oil scandal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: Food safety incidents in China (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Chinese cooking oil scandal (Post)
News source(s): DW
Credits:

Article updated
"The investigative report into the latest scandal revealed that two tanker trucks had been loaded with cooking oil for delivery immediately after carrying chemical products, a cost-saving measure that the media said had become an "open secret" in the supply chain." Count Iblis (talk) 17:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose One sentence update is not sufficient for a posting.
]
  • Oppose Two dirty tanker trucks is relatively insignificant.
Celjski Grad (talk) 17:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) 2024 Copa América final

Article: 2024 Copa América final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Argentina defeat Colombia to win the 2024 Copa América. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Argentina defeats Colombia to win the 2024 Copa América.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In association football, the 2024 Copa América final ends 1-0, Argentina over Colombia.
News source(s): The Athletic
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Article is well-referenced as of nomination, with a few updates being added. — MarkH21talk 04:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

July 14

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) UEFA Euro 2024 final

Article: UEFA Euro 2024 final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Spain defeat England to win UEFA Euro 2024. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Spain wins the UEFA Euro 2024, defeating England.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

The article for the final may need some sourcing work. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Support Per answer above; in principle. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:4DE:B079:824F:421A (talk) 21:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the final as the primary article as it seems quite perfunctory, doesn't provide any narrative for the game and needs work for issues like tense. The UEFA Euro 2024 article would be better as the primary article as it covers the entire event but that needs work too. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Those oppose votes that the article on the final lacks a prose recap of the match only 20 minutes after its end are very unproductive and may delay posting this because the majority of admins here blindly count votes. We all know that this won’t be posted in the next two hours, at least.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:28, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: The prose summary has been started and is well-referenced. No preference for primary-linked article or wording in the blurb. — MarkH21talk 21:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SUPPORT! Apparently, it’s agreeable that the summary is well authentically referenced with good citations. 207.194.85.134 (talk) 23:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well this is clearly an AI chatbot re-writing of the !vote directly above... Kingsif (talk) 02:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support article looks good to go. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If both this blurb and the next Copa América one are posted, they could be merged into one blurb to avoid repetition (e.g: In ]
I don't think it's wise to merge them as it may delude people that it's a single event or two closely related events, especially when we have a combined blurb on the Wimbledon Championships already on the main page.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, they are completely separate events. Every year we get a glut of sporting ITN/Rs around this time, it's just one of those things. Black Kite (talk) 11:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But it would avoid the tiff of which one gets posted on top and in turn lasts longer. I get they are different events, but still "continent level championship for national teams in the same sport at the same time" is close enough that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. But no strong opinion either way, just seems like it would avoid some drama. nableezy - 17:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Oppose on quality (and unmarked as Ready). Four sentences of prose on the entire final match is not sufficient. Black Kite (talk) 11:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support there really is nothing more you can write about the match, the quality is good enough Reme77 (talk) 12:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Evan Wright

Article: Evan Wright (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Baltimore Sun
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Author of Generation Kill. Article could use some reorganizing (I'm new to this so lmk if I'm doing this wrong). CrazyMagicPickle (talk) 18:28, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Posted) Wimbledon 2024

Article: 2024 Wimbledon Championships (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In tennis, Barbora Krejčíková and Carlos Alcaraz (pictured) win the women's and men's singles respectively at the Wimbledon Championships. (Post)
News source(s): NYT - The Washington Post
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

I think the article is in a good enough shape to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 16:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: Jacoby Jones

Article: Jacoby Jones (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Baltimore Sun
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American football wide receiver. Article needs a decent bit of work. The Kip (contribs) 16:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

(Posted) RD: Shannen Doherty

(Closed) Suspension of Alice Guo

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Proposed image
Article: 
Bamban, Tarlac mayor Alice Guo is suspended after her actual identity is revealed to be Chinese. (Post)
News source(s): Rappler Inquirer Philstar

Credits:

Really big incident in the Philippines, a lot of news sources talking about it, I might as well try to put it on the main page.🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Subnational incident that doesn't rise to the level of impact required for a main page posting.
]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

July 13

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Law and crime

Sports


RD: Naomi Pomeroy

Article: Naomi Pomeroy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Oregon Live
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American chef. 240F:7A:6253:1:5:1EE6:C9D5:AA47 (talk) 03:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: P. Buckley Moss

Article: P. Buckley Moss (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News Virginian
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American artist and philanthropist. 240F:7A:6253:1:5:1EE6:C9D5:AA47 (talk) 03:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

RD: James B. Sikking

Article: James B. Sikking (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood, The Hollywood Reporter, Variety
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:B0BC:D35C:F470:BF2D (talk) 05:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose uncited filmography/discography. But aside from that, there's a massive uncited list of movies in paragraph form that needs to be fixed. Bremps... 22:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 shooting at a Donald Trump rally

Proposed image
Article: 
assassination attempt at a political rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
News source(s): The New York Times, AP

Credits:

Probably the most serious security incident involving Donald Trump. Trump survived the assassination attempt. 2 people were injured, and the perpetrator and an audience was killed. Currently reported live by major news sites worldwide. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 23:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, now a shooting has been confirmed. Trump is injured. The perpetrator and an audience member died. This country is going to suffer extreme political violence in the coming weeks, so it was nice knowing you. Personisinsterest (talk) 23:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have sources for any of that? None of it is on the BBC live feed. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is one: 1 Gödel2200 (talk) 23:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That message was labelled '4 min ago' as I saw it. Could we perhaps all slow down a little and not try to push this story onto the home page while it's still developing? GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The original source appears to be local DA speaking to various media. Different media have different threshold for single/double/triple confirmation before reporting something big. Which is why there's some reporting of dead shooter in some media but not others. Wait until it's reported across major media before referencing such if it's considered to be included with a blurb. -- KTC (talk) 23:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Injured? Trump's people are saying he's fine. Nfitz (talk) 23:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not unreasonable to say injured when there's literally video of him with blood coming out of his ear, whether through being shot, hit his head on something during the whole incident or a USSS agent accidentally whacking him in the head as they cover him with their bodies. -- KTC (talk) 23:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They’re saying he’s alive. Personisinsterest (talk) 23:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wafflefrites (talk) 23:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not re: your vote Wafflefrites, but just so you know: it seems that the shooter was on a rooftop outside the rally. Zanahary 00:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Holy shit. Bremps... 00:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - this is a significant and recent news story Enoryt nwased lamaj (talk) 00:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note He was injured as a result of the shooting, there is (I haven't seen) as yet no confirmation that he was shot, so neither of the proposed blurb is okay as it stand. -- KTC (talk) 00:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support posting but Strong Oppose current blurb and alternative. Former President of the United States Donald Trump injured in assassination attempt at campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. Dr Fell (talk) 00:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Not sure how else you can interpret this as anything other than an assassination attempt. Scu ba (talk) 00:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not up to Wikipedia editors to "interpret" an event. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia is a tertiary source, and luckily we are not saddled with the task of interpreting events—only repeating the reports of reliable secondary sources. It'll become clear in the next few hours how sources are treating this (and I'll be surprised if it's not as an assassination attempt, considering the report I read about the local police investigating it as an attempt on DJT's life). Zanahary 00:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb3 This was an assassination attempt. "was injured" is ambiguous. — hako9 (talk) 00:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Assassination attempt or not, there's no question that one person was shot dead at an event involving a former U.S. president. As I write this the story at NY Times' website says "Trump ‘Safe’ After Shooting at Rally; Suspect Is Killed". This is a no brainer for main page. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support There’s no ambiguity around this shooting happening and being notable. CNN has already reported this is being investigated as an assassination attempt. Delay this further is absurd. Kcmastrpc (talk) 00:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - No need to wait as article is cited and will grow as we speak. Morogris () 00:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Further international coverage, [3] from the ABC, who had a reporter on site, and who describes one of the dead as "the person who fired shots in the former president's direction". Elsewhere, the same page says "Associated Press is reporting that the shooting is being investigated as an assassination attempt", "Washington Post reporter Meryl Kornfield says authorities told her Mr Trump was grazed by gunfire", and our ambassador and former PM Kevin Rudd has released a statement regarding "the attack on former President Trump". Nyttend (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Incident itself has been confirmed. --DannyC55 (Talk) 00:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Posted. El_C 00:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image cannot be used, as it is likely a copyrighted image, and not fair use. Natg 19 (talk) 00:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Change blurb to Alt2 Mentioning that someone was killed makes it the best description of what happened. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 02:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Change to Altblurb2 "investigated as an assassination attempt" =/= "confirmed assassination attempt." Goal and motive still not know, so we should
avoid assuming on what it is. Unless we get a RS stating that it's not just being "investigated as an assassination attempt" but outright declared as one, the ITN should not claim it as such. Nottheking (talk) 05:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
The FBI specifically called it an assassination attempt. ]
  • Oppose The incident is obviously interesting and in the news but it doesn't seem sufficiently certain, settled and stable to be suitable for presentation as an encyclopedia article. Issues include:
  1. Biden and Trump are both continually in the news as the presidential campaign progresses. For example, Biden's gaffes and the pressure on him to retire have been all over the news lately. It seems difficult to cherry-pick particular incidents in a balanced way and so the whole thing better belongs in Ongoing.
  2. The article about the incident is still a work-in-progress. For example, it currently uses a powerful image as fair use but the validity of this copyright issue is contested and unresolved.
  3. The incident is a crime but investigations are not yet complete. For example, the BBC reports that the shooter was spotted crawling into position minutes ahead of the shooting but nothing was done. The article does not yet explain this.
  4. There's already a big cloud of social media speculation, disinformation and misinformation out there which muddies the waters.
  5. We really don't need Donald Trump's smiling picture on the main page once again.
Andrew🐉(talk) 06:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. If 'In the news' covered everyday campaign news, concern about cherry-picking events in a balanced way would be justified. Certain events within the presidential campaign are independently newsworthy. An assassination attempt on a former president and current presidential candidate is a significant (and likely historical) event.
  2. Featuring relevant and timely news often means linking to articles that are neither settled nor stable. The article is unambiguously flagged as a current event.
  3. You've repeated your concern about developing stories featuring in 'In the news.' The utility of 'In the news' is reduced for users if articles are only featured once they have matured.
  4. On the contrary, featuring this story helps combat social media speculation, disinformation, and misinformation by offering readers a fact-based resource.
  5. Your last point significantly weakens the preceding four.
Dr Fell (talk) 17:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ITN has moved on and so these points are mostly moot now. But the red link for Dr Fell is a nice puzzle and I fancy I have a solution. Now that's encyclopædic – well done! Andrew🐉(talk) 20:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support We recently posted Robert Fico’s assassination attempt, so it’s sensible to post a similar event involving a former US president and a clear front-runner in this year’s election. Yes, it seems like we post a lot of news about him, but we’re closely approaching the election and the next news to post should be his victory.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Slightly jumping ahead of the electoral process there, aren't you? GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The user did jump the gun a bit, but I have a gut feeling that Trump's face is going to get on ITN at least six more times before he dies (win or lose this election) then again after he does. Bremps... 12:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I now support the posting (although I don't think we need the picture - it's still not related to the story). It was the 'should be his victory' part that seems wildly premature! GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) KP Sharma Oli becomes PM of Nepal

Article: KP Sharma Oli (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: KP Sharma Oli (pictured) is appointed Prime Minister of Nepal following the ouster of incumbent Pushpa Kamal Dahal in a no confidence motion. (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT
, not the significance.

-. Rushtheedtior (talk) 16:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is well-sourced and of sufficient quality for ITN --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Many very reliable authentic citations and sources in an article of sufficient quality, like above. 64.251.82.42 (talk) 02:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Notable and of passable quality. Deprecated controversy section, but oh well, nothing's perfect. Bremps... 04:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Admins willing to post ITN: I believe that this is ready for posting. Bremps... 12:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Richard Simmons

Article: Richard Simmons (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Mooonswimmer 20:50, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

July 12

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Tonke Dragt

Article: Tonke Dragt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NOS
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Dutch children's author and illustrator. 240F:7A:6253:1:8C6E:5302:D3E9:4A7A (talk) 01:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose Only a few uncited statements holding this back. Bremps... 06:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support no more uncited statements, this can be promoted now. Jaguarnik (talk) 04:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bill Viola

Article: Bill Viola (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American contemporary video artist. 240F:7A:6253:1:8C6E:5302:D3E9:4A7A (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose Several uncited statements. Bremps... 06:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support have referenced the uncited statements. yorkshiresky (talk) 19:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ruth Westheimer

Proposed image
Article: Ruth Westheimer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post, Times of Israel, NPR
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD
.

Support, but some issues remain, but close She's pretty close, but likely there's missing sources or some other issues. However, she should be ready soon. TheCorriynial (talk) 18:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Picture/blurb I'm in the UK and just heard a BBC news bulletin announce her death. I was already familiar with her large reputation and feel that she's a good example of the celebrity for which an RD picture is appropriate. A blurb would be good too, to explain to unfamiliar readers how and why she was so influential. Note also that the article is substantial, has a high quality rating, 175 inline citations and a huge bibliography.
Also, we should run this as
WP:COMMONNAME
.
Andrew🐉(talk) 19:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support Death was very newsworthy in numerous international sources. With respect to the listing name, I agree commonname applies, but would propose

Dr. Ruth Westheimer
which would provide more adequate detail and clarification. I'll also propose the following as a blurb to further that discussion, however I am not sure if a blurb is necessarily called for here:

  • "Radio and television celebrity
    Dr. Ruth Westheimer, dies at age 96 in Manhattan
    ."

With or without blurb, definitely a strong candidate for inclusion.Bgv. (talk) 19:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - No blurb - "American celebrity dies" should go to RD. Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for RD - article looks thoroughly sourced. Challenger l (talk) 23:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Photo RD More known by name than face, but the photo seems to be the whole point of an otherwise superfluous blurb for some (and the currently posted smiley makes little sense in its context). InedibleHulk (talk) 04:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Requests I've cleaned up most of the citation overkill, but She appeared on the BBC radio show Desert Island Discs in 1990, on The Arsenio Hall Show once in 1990, once in 1991, once in 1993, and once in 1994, on The Howard Stern Show once in 1991, on Late Night with Conan O'Brien once in 1994, twice in 1995, three times in 1996, and once in 1997, on The Daily Show once in 1998, and was featured in a Celebrity Deathmatch episode in 1999.[111][112][113][114][115][116] is prohibitively clunky. Anyone more skilled want to try? Maybe get the Accolades in chronological order? InedibleHulk (talk) 05:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It'd seem these flaws don't affect "article quality" here. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • PostedBagumba (talk) 15:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Billy Ibadulla

Article: Billy Ibadulla (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Warwickshire County Cricket Club obit
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Death announced on 12 July. Article will need further updates to make it ready. Schwede66 23:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Oppose Uncited statements. Bremps... 22:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 11

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Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections


RD: Monte Kiffin

Article: Monte Kiffin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

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NFL coach. Needs some work. Natg 19 (talk) 00:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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RD: Aparna (television presenter)

Article: Aparna (television presenter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4] [5]
Credits:

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Indian anchor and actress. mwwv converseedits 18:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Not ready; many citations are missing. Schwede66 21:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Shelley Duvall

Proposed image
Article: Shelley Duvall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD
.
  • We don't do picture RDs, but go ahead and propose it if you want. Natg 19 (talk) 06:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We've posted a picture RD more than once. For example, see Kirk Douglas. And it's good to do this because otherwise we keep running the same picture day after day. For example, we're 12 days into the month but we've only posted 4 different pictures. Changing the picture every day like the other main page sections ought to be our goal and using RD pics is an easy way of achieving this. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This was four years ago, and I don't think we need to open another front of endless debate. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a discussion about this on the talk page, and unless there is a consensus to do picture RDs, there is no point asking for this. Natg 19 (talk) 16:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The general consensus of the talk page discussion seems to be that picture RDs are a good idea and should be posted when appropriate. So let's get on with it – nothing ventured, nothing gained. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Kcmastrpc (talk) 18:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: David Liederman

Article: David Liederman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

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WP:ITNRD.

Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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(Posted) RD: Nana Nuriana

Article: Nana Nuriana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD
.

Former governor in Indonesia. Juxlos (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, with AGF for the offline Indonesian source backing up what it claims to back up. Schwede66 21:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 10

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Business and economy

  • The
    National Samsung Electronics Union announces that around 30,000 Samsung Electronics workers will now strike indefinitely after accusing the company of refusing to hold talks on better pay. (BBC News)

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Science and technology


RD: Thomas Hoepker

Article: Thomas Hoepker (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Oppose The usual problem. Bremps... 08:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Peter Steedman

Article: Peter Steedman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://tributes.theage.com.au/obituaries/515066/alan-peter-pete-steedman/?r=https://tributes.theage.com.au/obituaries/theage-au/
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

Student activist from the 1960s and ratbag Australian politician from the 1980s, known for wearing jeans and a leather jacket into Parliament. HiLo48 (talk) 11:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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RD: Dave Loggins

Article: Dave Loggins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline, Variety
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

American singer-songwriter. 240F:7A:6253:1:D121:B15C:C03A:6F95 (talk) 04:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Support Good to go. Let's roll. Bremps... 04:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The career section needs more sources for all the namedropping. The third table in the Discography section is also completely unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 01:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Joe Engle

Article: Joe Engle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Space.com
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

NASA astronaut. 240F:7A:6253:1:D121:B15C:C03A:6F95 (talk) 03:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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It might be a big deal, but what does " last of the 12 X-15 pilots" mean? HiLo48 (talk) 05:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It indicates that Joe Engle was one of the earliest pioneers of spaceflight, and was the last surviving member of the first group in this list of all astronauts/cosmonauts. (to be honest, that article tells the entire answer/story well enough on its own; the rest of my reply is just more historical context)
Worth noting that the X-15 pilots were selected before those of either Mercury or Vostok, thus making the X-15 program the earliest astronaut program to put anyone in space. (even if said spaceflights did not occur until a year or so after the other two programs) On top of that, the X-15 was the world's first hypersonic fixed-wing aircraft.
This placed Engle in a very exclusive club; while the FAI does not recognize him as having flown in space in the X-15, both NASA & the US Air Force do recognize him as having flown due to having passed an altitude of 50 miles (80,467.2 meters or 264,000 feet) on three occasions. (also worth noting that the Air Force selection for X-15 pilots would include a far more well-known member in Neil Armstrong, first person to set foot on the Moon)
With Engle's passing, there are no longer any surviving members of the first group of pilots seriously selected to go to space. This leaves Boris Volynov as the earliest-surviving astronaut/cosmonaut, as the sole surviving member of the USSR's first cosmonaut selection. Nottheking (talk) 17:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but can you translate "12 X-15" to English please? HiLo48 (talk) 23:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The ]
Thank you. HiLo48 (talk) 23:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Benji Gregory

Article: Benji Gregory (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People, Deadline
Credits:
Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

American actor. He was found dead on June 13, but his death was announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:A864:DA97:9C83:9E71 (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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(Posted) RD: Maxine Singer

Article: Maxine Singer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD
.

Article updated and well sourced. Death announced on this day. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Don't see any issues, solid B-class (or maybe even GA) article in my opinion. Bremps... 23:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Other than an unreferenced date of birth, that looks solid. Schwede66 06:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now fixed; support since article looks good. Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks good! Estreyeria (talk) 13:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PostedSchwede66 23:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 9

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International relations

Law and crime

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Sports


RD: Dan Collins (journalist)

Article: Dan Collins (journalist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Support Can't see any issues. Bremps... 08:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Diana Hill

Article: Diana Hill (scientist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Diana Hill obituary
Credits:

Article updated
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WP:ITNRD.

New Zealand academic, and a full professor at the University of Otago. Article looks ok. Schwede66 04:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Ariane 6

Article: Ariane 6 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ariane 6 makes a successful maiden flight. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The launch was initially planned for 2020, but was postponed until today. Gödel2200 (talk) 21:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Note that the flight was only mostly successful, with the upper-stage re-entry burn not taking place as scheduled. --Carnildo (talk) 22:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The article doesn't include any details on the launch except to say that it occurred. In more than one instance the tense hasn't even been updated to show that the launch is now in the past. If we're going to blurb this we need to include at least some prose on the details of the maiden launch, what succeeded, what failed, etc. Otherwise I believe the maiden launch of a space vehicle (especially a major one from a government agency like ESA) is ITNR so support once the article is fixed. 142.163.137.123 (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maiden launches of rockets are not ITN/R, only the first launch by a country is. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, upper stage appears to have failed a relight per ESA livestream. Worth mentioning in blurb? [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 02:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lean oppose on notability I can't recall any precedent on "new type of rocket is launched", and could see this right on the borderline of trivia. I could well be wrong though. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It was ITNR until last year. -- KTC (talk) 19:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That it was removed suggests consensus against posting such things going forward This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a consensus that we'll judge each posting on its notability merit rather than assume merit and post every time (so long as quality of article). Removal from ITNR is not a "we'll never post it again". Your initial comment appears to suggest that you think new rocket type launch isn't something we post at all and that it's "borderline of trivia". The support for removal from ITNR are based on the increasing number of new rockets types launches with the advent of commercial space exploration/launches. Ariane isn't one of those commercial development/launch. It's a replacement of the workhorse launch system for the 22-member intergovernmental European Space Agency. -- KTC (talk) 08:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now, the flight itself (Ariane flight VA262) doesn't have its own article yet, which is a bit suboptimal. It did successfully send its payload to orbit, so it should be notable enough as a maiden flight (better than the perennial Starship test flights). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree, having an article about the flight would be nice. I don't want us to end up with the same result as the German Wikipedia, who currently have the same blurb in their version of "in the news", with a link to the article about de:Ariane 6 that barely mentions the maiden launch with a single sentence. I don't want to mock the German Wikipedia, but this rocket was largely developed in Germany, and if not even de:Liste der Ariane-6-Raketenstarts has anything to say about how the flight went, I find that quite sad. Renerpho (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as nominated, since the launch wasn't really a "success", but would support with modifications. It did send its payload to orbit, it just failed to then de-orbit the second stage, which really is the main new innovation of the Da Vinci upper stage compared to what Ariane 5 did. I have no concerns about notability, just about how to put it into a neutral blurb. Renerpho (talk) 03:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ESA put a lot of weight on their "zero debris" policy, and on how Vinci was a big step in that direction. Even if the problem with this launch doesn't affect plans for the future (which remains to be seen), putting 600 kg of debris into an orbit that will need decades to decay doesn't look like a success to me. With how the news cycle is working, I'd wait until it is day again in Europe and in the US, to see if the news actually lean towards success, or failure. Renerpho (talk) 03:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My local paper's article (mostly a reprint of one in the Orlando Sentinel) managed to avoid calling it either a "success" or a "failure". --Carnildo (talk) 06:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Cowards. Renerpho (talk) 10:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - this would be more supportable if the article linked on the target page for the "maiden flight" existed - Ariane flight VA262. Nfitz (talk) 12:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not convinced by the current state of the article that this merits posting, as it does not look ready. Almost more text is devoted to this launchdate being delayed, than to a description of the flight itself. Said description is completely limited to a table entry. Needs work. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle - I would fully support this if the article was up to par, but the launch itself doesn't have it's own article, and the main A6 article only has a small exerpt in launch history regarding it. This is exciting though; Arianespace is a major player in launch vehicles. qw3rty 14:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose nothing notable or significant about this launch. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Joe Bonsall

Article: Joe Bonsall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard, AP
Credits:

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Oppose Some improvements but still tagged for uncited statements. Bremps... 23:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jim Inhofe

Article: Jim Inhofe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.

Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Support, given Inhofe was notable for both representing Oklahoma for decades and climate change denial. I would wait until the article has been finished being edited, given Inhofe recently died, but Inhofe merits inclusion in RD. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Heaps of orange maintenance tags. Schwede66 05:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not ready: Page has a lot of orange maintenance tags. Once does are gone I'll support it. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 19:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - At least a half dozen orange tags need to be dealt with. Jusdafax (talk) 00:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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