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August 31

File:The Scream2.jpg
Ohmigawd ! The police found me with a naked lady! -- 199.71.174.100 22:21, 31 August 2006
  • The image caption made me laugh. Thanks ! :-D -- 64.229.204.189 15:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 29

August 27

  • Let's leave out the floods and the mudslide as per
    WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. "Hurricane Ernesto approaches Haiti and Cuba." would be fine. But then, if Ernesto hasn't done anything wrong yet, does this belong to ITN ? Probably not, as least not yet. -- 199.71.174.100 20:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • It would need a new headline. I withdraw my suggestion until (1) substantial casualty reports accumulate or (2) Ernesto approaches the US near hurricane strength. -Runningonbrains 01:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • May want to try for DYK instead. Better chance of getting on the Main Page over there than on ITN. -- 199.71.174.100 02:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, it's a current event. But I dunno... --Howard the Duck 03:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I saw it! yes! (lol, everytime my article goes to DYK I can't see it hehehe) --Howard the Duck 05:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 24

August 23

Hello32020 14:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merely a convenient redirect. Wikipedia still has no article on the
    Holy Jihad Brigades. --64.229.224.60 05:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]

August 22

  • Pulkovo Airlines Flight 612 has crashed in the Ukraine, 170 feared dead, at least 30 confirmed bodies. I'm an admin, but I don't have much experience with ITN, so I'm going to suggest this here inbstead of just changing the template (though the introduction to this page kinda says I can...) anyway. I feel it should go on ITN as most airline disasters usually do. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 18:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Astronomers observe gravitational signature of
    Peta 00:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]

You beat me to it, but this is an important discovery. Relevant links are:

Anon. -- 01:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I had updated the article, but someone over there calims it is not an important discovery and removed it.--
Peta 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Look again. The dark matter page has undergone quite a few edits in the past day or so. -- 64.229.227.18 13:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Poincare conjecture. It has human interset as well as the maths because Perelman is kinb of a recluse and is expected not to acept his US$million. A Geek Tragedy 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Has he actually been awarded it? According to Auntie[1], he's declined it. Not sure if this item is technically correct as currently worded. Badgerpatrol 15:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He was awarded the medal in absentia. So it's ok. -- 64.229.227.18 13:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Justin Gatlin
Justin Gatlin

August 21

August 19

Flag of New Zealand
Flag of New Zealand
Biggest rugby competition in the southern hemisphere, so it needs to be up. We should tweak the page a little, before it (hopefully) goes on the min page. Cvene64 08:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Tri-Nations is not officially over, but winner has been established. This is a major international sporting event and should be properly documented in the news section. For the image, I would recommend the rugby picture rather than the NZ flag (the All Blacks flag might be more appropriate if a flag were to be used). hoopydinkConas tá tú? 12:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Posted--HamedogTalk|@ 14:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 16

Tungurahua in 2004
Tungurahua in 2004
  • (Maybe for something a little different, and for a more world-wide view) A major
    volcanic eruption is underway in Ecuador, as Tungurahua spews out ash, rock and lava. Batmanand | Talk 16:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Something about the arrest of the alleged murderer of
    JonBenet Ramsey should definitely be on the front page.-Andrewia 15:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • It's not too tabloid-ish. It's one of the biggest news stories in the country and it deserves attention here too, especially when the most important issues here appears to be the addition of planets.-Andrewia 03:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • In one hundred years' time, the reclassification of the planets will be part of every standard textbook on astronomy. A child beauty queen's death will not. Come on, let's get our priorities right here. Batmanand | Talk 20:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • If/when it happens, something about the planet re-classification should be on ITN. Batmanand | Talk 14:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Agreed. The draft proposal made a fair number of newspaper front pages on the way to work this morning, and its historically speaking, a relatively big deal. We'll see if its adopted by the end of the conference. The Tom 15:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 15

  • The flag of Māori is now "hoisted". I'd looked for it, but couldn't find it on the Māori article and gave up. Thanks. -- PFHLai 15:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't really say it meets the high ranking office of power criteria. From the Māori King Movement article:
The Māori monarch is a non-constitutional role with no legal power in New Zealand; rather, it is a symbolic role invested with a high degree of mana (prestige). I have no objections to having it there though.
Rafy 19:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
I thought that the end of the longest reign of any Māori monarch in history deserves a mention on ITN. -- PFHLai 21:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Māori Queen doesn't = Queen of the Māori - only certain members of the Māoridom recognise the position.--HamedogTalk|@ 09:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I typed in "Queen of the Maori" to avoid sticking "(flag pictured)" in between "Maori" and "Queen". I've fixed it now. Hope it's better. --PFHLai 13:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 14

I think that the XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 that started last night in Toronto, Canada, warrents inclusion in the "In The News" section. It's the largest conference on HIV/AIDS ever and this is an event that affects the whole world. Many new studies will be unveiled this week which will impact future progess. Here is an article talking about the launch of the conference [2] and here is one about one study to be released there. [3] There is an entire section at the Globe about it. [4]

I propose: The International AIDS Conference continues in Toronto, Canada.

This is short and simple and can be changed if a major breakthrough is announced during the conference (running until August 18th) Jeff 13:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • Support this.--HamedogTalk|@ 13:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support FellowWikipedian 16:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support withheld till "a major breakthrough is announced". Don't forget to update
      Current events as per ITN guidelines. Thanks. -- PFHLai 16:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
      ]

The conference seems to have taken the position that the new goal should be to empower women in the fight against HIV/AIDS. (Since much of the control is with the man and the choice to use condoms) Bill Gates and Bill Clinton have been speaking about the issue [5]. I feel that this conference has more international significance than the death of the Maori Queen, though that is for the ITN editors to decide. I am unsure as to what else needs to be done to fullfill ITN guidelines as there is a Wikinews article [6] present. Hopefully someone with more experience than me may be able to fullfill these obligations. Jeff 17:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just added this to Portal:Current events, as per ITN guideline #1. External newslinks are included, as per guidelines there.
Just convening an international conference is not enough, IMO. (Maybe I'm biased. I have attended conferences as part of my day-job. It seems like no big deal to me.) I have trouble accepting celebrities talking and people booing at Canadian government officials as major news with encyclopedic worth, but that's all we have so far. The conference seems to have taken the position ... ? Please add that to the article. The article XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 needs updates on who talked about what, and summary of major announcements (sth like this, maybe?) If the wikiarticle has more things to read, I may be more supportive. ITN, afterall, is just another section on MainPage to feature good wikicontent. BTW, Wikinews is not part of Wikipedia, just a sister project under the Wikimedia Foundation. What happens there does not affect ITN. --PFHLai 21:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 11

The

2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict
.

We have the full text of the resolution. --Thomas Blomberg 00:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You shouldn't have the full text, just any highlights. FUll text should probably be on wikisource, but that doesn't matter here other than the poor quality article. -(unsigned comment by User:Say1988)
The full text will eventually end up on Wikisource, when the adopted draft has been reformatted and re-published by the UN as a proper resolution, but until then we can have the draft text in Wikipedia. As for your comment about a "poor quality article", I would appreciate if you would voice your views on Talk:United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701 instead of here. --Thomas Blomberg 17:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 10

Super Typhoon Saomai
Super Typhoon Saomai

--199.71.174.100 16:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: 103 Killed so far, should this be added?--Jerluvsthecubs 08:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Already updated. -- PFHLai 20:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The
    Peta 04:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Will support this when the diplomats are done talking and give us an actual
2006 United Nations Security Council resolution on Lebanon page standing by to take up new content. For now, perhaps someone more familiar with the news story can give us an article about the devastating oil spill in the Mediterranean along the Lebanese coast. A line about this would also be relevant and yet still "focusses on something oher than the fighting and remains netural". --PFHLai 06:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Where's the updated wikiarticle ? --PFHLai 06:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2006 UK plane terror plot Tell me to get back to work! 07:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
"Flights to and from the is banned on all flights from the UK as a precaution."
I suggest the above. Note that the security measures are because they *haven't* necessarily foiled the plot. zoney talk 09:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest "
a plot to blow up trans-atlantic planes in mid-flight" Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 10:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
I added a version much like that to the front page. Thue | talk 10:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest something more negative, the 5 articles posted on the Main Page aren't negative enough. Because we need more negative news. Thank you :) and remember the only news is Bad News.--Jerluvsthecubs 05:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ! If you feel like trolling, pick another page frequented by more admins. And frankly, good news items are preferred on ITN. Just that we can't find enough of them. -- PFHLai 20:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 9

I don't think a person being given the right to run in the election for a party is enough for ITN. I also don't believe the average person outside of the US (maybe even just outside Connecticut) Will have too much interest in this. 209.226.175.59 14:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with User:209.226.175.59. Too local. I'll pass. -- PFHLai 18:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The election itself is local, yes, but its importance is national and even international. It's about the direction of the
U.S. Democratic Party, and therefore the United States. -Fsotrain09 18:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
I agree that this can have some implications in US politics. But, IMO, it's rather speculative. "Impact is not imminent", so to speak. --PFHLai 20:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This could have an impact, but if Lamont loses the election, it is not important or if the Republicans have a majority whether Lamont is elected or not makes this pointless other than a little tidbit of trivia, to say that an incumbant got defeated without being indicted, by his own party even. Also, the above IP user, User:209.226.175.59 was me, I was on another comp and had forgot to sign in. say1988 22:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Supporters of Mexican
    Peta 23:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
This is old news. The protests are more than a month old. Maybe we should focus on the recount. Better to wait till there is an official result for the recount. -- PFHLai 01:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As of yesterday they were still causing problems [7].--
Peta 01:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Yes, they are. I meant the protests have "dragged on" for more than a month (and getting boring). The recount is new. -- PFHLai 01:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Then tweak it to say there will be recounts.--
Peta 01:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Actually, I recommend keeping this off ITN till we have the results of the recount. Right now, there isn't much new materials on
Mexican general election, 2006 to read. --PFHLai 01:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Adding this entry is better than retaining the week-old entry that it displaced. —
David Levy 02:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
Agree. Perhaps you can help with the item below about the dam in Turkey, David. (You've fixed my previous "colon-laden" bad English before.) That may be used to fill the space on ITN for the time being. --PFHLai 02:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't think of a good way to add a mention of the
David Levy 02:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
]
The recount has started. I've rewritten the blurb to mention this. -- PFHLai 18:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And thank you, David, for looking into the blurb on the dam. --PFHLai 20:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 8

  • About 35 000 people are evacuated as the
    Peta 23:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Posted. -- PFHLai 14:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will wait for the article to grow more. -- PFHLai 14:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Construction of the
    Peta 02:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • How about this:
Southeastern Anatolia Project: Construction of the Ilısu Dam, which upon completion would cause the flooding of the city of Hasankeyf in Turkey, begins.
I need help writing this in better English (without the colon), preferably emboldening the link to either Hasankeyf or Southeastern Anatolia Project as these pages are not stubby like Ilısu Dam. -- PFHLai 01:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. -- PFHLai 18:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Flooding on the
    Peta 02:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • 15 nations have so far presented plans for participation in a peace-keeping operation in the Near East. Another 15 have expressed willingness. [Based on AP's article]; unfortunately I couldn't find a Wikipedia article on the future peace keeping missions --Cryout 21:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will wait for an article to be created. -- PFHLai 14:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

August 4

[8][9], [10], [11], [12]] and [13]. --Wedian 23:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Posted a shorter headline on ITN. -- PFHLai 15:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Flag of Sri Lanka
Flag of Sri Lanka
  • Last year, in a similar story, Rafael Palmeiro was not welcomed on ITN. See the
    August 2005 archive. --64.229.204.14 15:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • The proper answer should be "Rafael Palmeiro is a member of the 3000-500 Club." As for notability, both are now more notable as drug cheats than for their professional achievements. Anyway, Gatlin is not banned yet. Thus, not posted. -- PFHLai 15:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Broker-Dealer Exemption: Good Or Bad [14]
Today, the SEC announced that it would officially conduct a study to see if allowing the so-called “Merrill exemption” did in fact confuse retail investors or not. So, the exemption is again being investigated. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by Babybear2 (talkcontribs) 14:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC).[reply
]

August 3

The new and old New Zealand 10 cent piece. The 10 cent piece is now New Zealand's smallest coin.
The new and old New Zealand 10 cent piece. The 10 cent piece is now New Zealand's smallest coin.
  • New coins become legal tender in New Zealand, leaving the 5 cent piece redundant and reducing the weight of the 10, 20 and 50 cent pieces.--HamedogTalk|@ 08:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I support this. Some of the items currently up are rather old, and this event has sufficient impact to be noted, I think. --Slowking Man 23:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Is this really a story of international importance or interest, per the ITN guidelines?[15] Badgerpatrol 00:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well I guess it is, when a country removes a coin from circulation (5 cent is now gone and is/was worth 4.95 Australian cent's, and not every day a country removes a coin from circulation (although 5 cents is still legal tender until Oct 31.))--HamedogTalk|@ 07:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • I don't believe this is of international importance. I don't even think it will affect the New Zealand economy at all. Finally, this event won't really become notable until a couple of decades later . --Cryout 15:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
            • Why won't it be notable until decades later?--HamedogTalk|@ 00:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
              • Because for the coins themselves to have a special value, they must be something hard to find or of historical importance. So far there are, I am sure, many coins like these in people's pockets, and also their removal is not caused or will cause a historical event. --Cryout 01:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]