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September 30
- 2008 Chinese milk scandal
- Dutch food giant Unilever began recalling Lipton-brand milk tea powder in Hong Kong and Macau after they were found to contain traces of melamine. (CBS News)
- Chinese police report having arrested 22 people on Monday over melamine tainted milk products. (BBC News)
- Shares of major Irish banks rise sharply following the announcement of a EBS, worth an estimated €400 billion. The guarantee includes Bank of Ireland branches in Northern Ireland while the coverage of AIB's subsidiary, First Trust is still under discussion. Deposits in foreign-owned banks remain guaranteed to €100,000. (RTÉ News) (BBC News)
- 147 people are dead after a human stampede at the Chamunda Hindu temple near Jodhpur in India. (Reuters), (CNN), (AFP via The Canberra Times)
- At least 35 people die when a bus collides with a milk tanker and catches fire in central Pakistan, police say. (News 24)
- 30 suspected mobsters arrested around Naples in "war against the Camorra". (BBC News)
- Piracy in Somalia:
- Pirates deny reports of three of their own killed in a shoot-out aboard the Ukrainian ship (MV Faina) off the African coast. (CBC News) (BBC News)
- The Dow Jones Industrial Average goes up almost 500 points, following its largest one day point drop in history yesterday.(Yahoo Finance)
ITN candidates for September 30
- A Navratri kills 89 and injures 250. --make a difference 04:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The death toll now stands at 113. But administrators here are fast asleep. --make a difference 06:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting after waking up. --Tone 07:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Results of
September 29
- Three bombs go off in western India, killing 8 people and injuring 30. (TOI)
- Subprime mortgage crisis:
- The
- Head of the Swedish National Debt Office Bo Lundgren says that the $700 billion U.S. financial industry bailout is based on too-optimistic valuations, and may not be enough to restore confidence in the financial system. (Dagens industri)
- The German government and private banks inject 35 billion Euros into the struggling Hypo Real Estate, a bank that is heavily involved in the real estate business. The bank had been struggling because its Irish subsidy Depfa Bank had suffered massive losses during the subprime mortgage crisis. The HRE is the first company from the DAX that had to be rescued by the government in recent memory. (Handelsblatt.com)
- São Paulo Stock Exchange sank 9.36% to 46,028.06 points, its steepest drop since 1999. (Reuters)
- Russian U.S. housing bubble. (MarketWatch)
- U.S. Government will take losses beyond that. (MarketWatch)
- The Government of Glitnir Bank (Reuters) (International Herald Tribune)
- The Fortis and a cash infusion from the Beneluxstates amounting to €11.2 billion.
- Intervention is needed to support the US's Fortis, following on from the Subprime mortgage crisis. (Sources as already listed)
- The Dow Jones Industrial Average has the biggest intra-day decline in its history as it drops by 777 points. (NY1)
- A Lebanese Army troops to work in Tripoli, Lebanon, which kills at least five people and injures 25. (AP via Fox News)
- Floods caused by Typhoon Hagupit cause at least 41 deaths in northern Vietnam. (News Limited)
- debt collection agency is suffering from severe economic problems after having over-spent and over-borrowed and may be forced to cut staff to stop the bleeding. (The Local)
- Brazil's government is named as the worst illegal logger of the Amazon rainforest. (BBC News)
ITN candidates for September 29
- Floods caused by Typhoon Hagupit cause at least 41 deaths in Vietnam. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 14:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support Article is updated.SpencerT♦C 22:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. --Tone 08:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- A U.S. House of Representatives, erasing $1.2 trillion in value from U.S. stocks, causing a global stock market crash, and causing the worst point drop ever in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. --66.166.47.147 (talk) 20:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Big duh support. cool stuff) 21:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)]
- A rather dramatic way of putting it. --Candlewicke (Talk) 21:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Big duh support.
- Hopefully my suggestion is slightly more positive. --Candlewicke (Talk) 21:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Scientists announce the discovery of clouds of ice above the surface of Mars.
- (As soon as an article is found!) :) --Candlewicke (Talk) 21:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- As soon as 30 September 2008 western India bombings is fully updated, it should go up. SpencerT♦C 22:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The news item on Delhi can be merged into this. Possible alternative:
- Three bomb blast in Delhikilled 3 and injured 30.
- --make a difference 22:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. --Tone 08:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
September 28
- space launch vehicle to do so. (AP via Google News)
- Subprime mortgage crisis:
- George W. Bush administration reach an outline Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 of a bailout of financial institutions as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis. (Reuters)
- British bank Bradford & Bingley is to be purchased by the Treasury and Financial Services Authority. (BBC News)
- Fortis NV is partly nationalised as part of an 11.4 billion euro rescue package funded by the Governments of Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. (AP via Google News)
- Piracy in Somalia:
- The captain of a Ukrainian vessel (MV Faina) loaded with tanks and weapons that was seized off the African coast says one crew member has died. (CNN)
- Somali pirates were surrounded by several foreign warships off the central coast of Somalia. (France 24)
- spacesuit. (Xinhua)
- Four days after the formation of new Japan cabinet, Transport Minister Nariaki Nakayama resigns after series of controversial speeches. (BBC News)
- Haile Gebrselassie of Ethiopia sets a new world record in the marathon of two hours three minutes 58 seconds at the Berlin Marathon. (Reuters)
- Elections
- In the CSU loses its absolute majority after 40 years. (Deutsche Welle)
- Voters in Belarusian parliamentary elections. According to election officials, allies of President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko will win all 110 seats renewing concerns about the process.(Reuters via The Globe and Mail) (Voice of America)
- Voters in Austrian legislative election. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- In the
- Fernando Alonso wins the Singapore Grand Prix in Formula One's first night race. (BBC News)
ITN candidates for September 28
Marathon world record looks good. --Tone 10:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom: 50 Somali pirates capture the Ukrainian cargo ship MV Faina, taking control of 33 T-72 tanks and other weapons and ammunition. SpencerT♦C 01:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Also, Image:MV Faina.jpg is uploaded on en.wikipedia, so you could possibly protect it and use it for the item. Thanks, SpencerT♦C 01:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Not really a standard ITN item so I support it. However, I'd like some more opinions from the others before posting. Also, should we include tanks in the blurb? --Tone 09:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- support, but exclude tanks--Ч) 18:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Is this going up? SpencerT♦C 13:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting. Thanks for the image upload. --Tone 13:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am having some problems with internet, could someone post the item? Thanks. --Tone 19:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- While I support the inclusion of this item, I feel it was a mistake to ignore the weapons angle completely. Yes I know we need to be concise but as Piracy in Somalia demonstrates, these sort of attacks are hardly rare but we rarely have them on ITN. Is this simply because we don't have the articles or is it because this particular attack more noteable then most? From what I can tell, it's the later and the primary reason is because the pirates happened to get lucky and captured a ship with a large number arms which understandbly has caused extra concern Nil Einne (talk) 09:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)]
- It's been added now by [1]. I forgot to mention, I don't have a preference for the specific wording, in fact the tanks part is not really that important. It's a bit headline grabbing but it seems likely to me (supported by sources[2]) that there is no chance in hell the pirates are going to be able to steal the tanks so they aren't whats bothering people. The smaller weapons are of great concern Nil Einne (talk) 16:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- While I support the inclusion of this item, I feel it was a mistake to ignore the weapons angle completely. Yes I know we need to be concise but as
- I am having some problems with internet, could someone post the item? Thanks. --Tone 19:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting. Thanks for the image upload. --Tone 13:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Is this going up? SpencerT♦C 13:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- support, but exclude tanks--
- Not really a standard ITN item so I support it. However, I'd like some more opinions from the others before posting. Also, should we include tanks in the blurb? --Tone 09:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Also, Image:MV Faina.jpg is uploaded on en.wikipedia, so you could possibly protect it and use it for the item. Thanks, SpencerT♦C 01:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom: Austrian legislative election, 2008. Well-updated article, nice amount of background. SpencerT♦C 01:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The article is in good shape. Since there are no official results yet, the headline should maybe focus on the high percentage for right-wing parties? By the way, the results of Slovenian election are expected to be out today, we should post those as well. The article is updated. --Tone 09:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Falcon rocket success. First privately developed space launch vehicle. Notable story and fairly well done article.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 04:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. --Tone 09:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
September 27
- A
- Maritime Provinces on Sunday. (Reuters)
- The automakers and the end of offshore drilling bans. (AP via Google News)
- The People's Council of Turkmenistan, implementing changes approved in the Constitution, passes a vote to abolish itself and allow opposition parties. (BBC News)
- During mission extra-vehicular activity independently. (CNN)
- In Australian football, the Hawthorn Football Club defeats the Geelong Football Club in the 2008 AFL Grand Final by 115 points to 89. (ABC News Australia)
- 2008 Damascus car bomb: A suspected car bomb targeting a military installation in Damascus, Syria kills at least 17 and injures 14 others. (BBC News)
- A 12.9 million digit Mersenne prime is discovered. (AP via Los Angeles Times)[permanent dead link]
- Government officials announce plans to nationalise British bank Bradford & Bingley in the aftermath of the subprime mortgage crisis. (BBC News)
- United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 1835 on Iran, calling for compliance with previous resolutions, with no further sanctions. (BBC News)
ITN candidates for September 27
- Nomination for update - main objective of the mission (the spacewalk) has been fulfilled - During mission ]
- This is a good proposal but I would prefer a better wording... Also, do we have an appropriate article for Turkmenistan item maybe? ITN worthy, IMO. --Tone 15:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support for Damascus story. Is quite a big event in the recent spate of bombings and the growth of global poltical insecurity. (+ something was supposed to have been added 6 hours ago) Lihaas (talk) 18:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Answer to Tone: Politics of Turkmenistan has an update. Narayanese (talk) 20:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
For the
- The article looks ok. Posting. --Tone 13:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support Delhi blast:
- A bomb blast in Delhi, India kills two and injures 25. --128.211.201.161 (talk) 23:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)]
- There is absolutely no connection between Damascus and Delhi blasts. Besides, this is the second attack in Delhi in the same month. So, that makes it all the more notable. Wonder what is taking so long to put it up? --128.211.201.161 (talk) 05:34, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article has been expanded now and features news inputs from various sources. So, ITN worthy. --128.211.201.161 (talk) 06:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- The pace at which people respond here is appalling. --128.211.201.161 (talk) 07:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nomination: Turkmenistan adopts a new constitution that abolishes the People's Council and allows opposition parties. Narayanese (talk) 05:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support. A nation which decides to join the family of democratic nations is definitely a noteworthy event. __talk) 06:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Support. A nation which decides to join the family of democratic nations is definitely a noteworthy event. __
Nominate In Australian football, the Hawthorn Football Club defeats the Geelong Football Club in the 2008 AFL Grand Final by 26 points. c4v3m4n 05:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support as per the ITN sports guidelines, although article currently lacks references --Daviessimo (talk) 09:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Let's wait for the ref. --Tone 13:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
September 26
- United States presidential election debates. (ABC News Australia)
- Cologne-Bonn Airport and arrest two men suspected of planning to carry out a terrorist attack. (AFP via News Limited)
- Subprime mortgage crisis:
- In the biggest bank failure in American history, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation seizes Washington Mutual and sells most of the bank to JPMorgan Chase. (The New York Times) (FDIC)
- A Ukrainian vessel carrying 30 piracy in Somalia. (The New York Times)
ITN candidates for September 26
- Nomination
- In the continuing J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.. This is the largest bank takeover in U.S. history.
- In the continuing
- I'll leave it to a reviewer to determine if the linked articles satisfy sufficiently. The official government source is the U.S. FDIC:
JPMorgan Chase Acquires Banking Operations of Washington Mutual FDIC Facilitates Transaction that Protects All Depositors and Comes at No Cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 02:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support - here is my recommendation:
Strong support WaMu's assets are circa $307 billion. Ian3055 (talk) 03:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Support Given that IndyMac was included here, it would follow that WaMu should be mentioned. In opposition to both the suggested wordings, though, I would suggest a link to Subprime mortgage crisis is given. ~ UBeR (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Strong Support To be frank: This is absolutely insane that Wikipedia doesn't have something about this financial crisis on our news section. We are potentially on the verge of a global financial meltdown. In my opinion, it makes the encyclopedia appear to be written by high schoolers by not having something about this up there. I apologize for my frustration, but this adds to the perception that the encyclopedia is amateur, especially when it comes to financial matters. Stock markets in Asia are falling right now because the US Congress can't get a bailout plan written; tonight just had the largest bank failure in u.s. history.[3] We really need to look alive here. People from Michigan to Melbourne to Macau to Mumbai are going to feel the effects of what's happening, maybe for years. --JayHenry (talk) 05:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Several items have been placed prominently in ITN over the past three months, including the failures of IndyMac Bank, Fannie and Freddie, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch and HBOS. Significant improvements have been made to each of those articles as a result of their postings on the main page. I'm sure this will get posted too, but believe me when I tell you that we're on top of it here. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Note that we place items on ITN because they may be of interest to readers (which amongst other things means they must be of sufficient quality before we list them on ITN), not because they may be improved as a result of being shown (that's just an added bonus and doesn't come at all into consideration) Nil Einne (talk) 07:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- As Cumulus has said, we have already had several items on ITN and are probably going to have another here. Also, bear in mind that wikipedia is an encylopaedia not a news website (we have wikinews for that) and ITN despite the poor choice of name, is not intended to be a a news service. You should definitely not expect all breaking news headlines on ITN, no matter how important the events seem. Nil Einne (talk) 07:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure that I understand the premises of your assertion here. I certainly would expect to see a correlation between the global importance of a breaking news story and its likelihood of being featured in the ITN section, not as a result of policy but as a result of Wikipedia editors placing focus on articles covered by the event. but perhaps that is the same as what you're saying? __talk) 07:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)]
- There should be no great correlation beyond that caused by editor interest. Provided the item is of international interest, then the only concern when it comes to ITN is the article is up to scratch. To use one infamous (IMHO anyway) example, if a meteor hits Detroit or someone called the Messiah appears in Los Angeles tomorrow, we won't have these items on ITN unless we have suitable articles, no matter how important the events may seem. That is because wikipedia is not a news site so we don't really care how important something is, provided it's important enough. Of course, these items are likely to have so much interest that their article will quickly get up to scratch, but if that doesn't happen, it's not a failure of ITN that we don't have these items. (Perhaps a wider failure in wikipedia but not ITN) Nil Einne (talk) 15:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure that I understand the premises of your assertion here. I certainly would expect to see a correlation between the global importance of a breaking news story and its likelihood of being featured in the ITN section, not as a result of policy but as a result of Wikipedia editors placing focus on articles covered by the event. but perhaps that is the same as what you're saying? __
- Thanks for that. Several items have been placed prominently in ITN over the past three months, including the failures of IndyMac Bank, Fannie and Freddie, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch and HBOS. Significant improvements have been made to each of those articles as a result of their postings on the main page. I'm sure this will get posted too, but believe me when I tell you that we're on top of it here. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Support We should definitely post this as it evidences the unperturbed onslaught of the financial collapse juggernaut. __
weak support the story definitely seems to be ITN worthy. The article is a bit on the weak side, but probably good enough for ITN Nil Einne (talk) 07:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Support. However, please expand the intro of the article and suggest a final headline. There are 3 options here at the moment, hard to decide. --Tone 07:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Just a thought, since it's sleeping time currently in the US and these financial events center on Wall Street and the US financial system, some of the most active editors in this field (which is rather specialized) may be not be editing right now. I think we should not wait 6 hours before posting this even if the improvements which you request aren't made. __talk) 08:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Just a thought, since it's sleeping time currently in the US and these financial events center on Wall Street and the US financial system, some of the most active editors in this field (which is rather specialized) may be not be editing right now. I think we should not wait 6 hours before posting this even if the improvements which you request aren't made. __
Support The largest bank failure in U.S. history.... --Hapsala (talk) 09:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Alternate wording:
- Continuing the JP Morgan Chase.
- Continuing the
- Dragons flight (talk) 10:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Note: OTS is the regulator empowered to close/seize WaMu. Ordinarily the FDIC is then named by the OTS as the receiver (i.e. put in charge of winding down operations). It appears that the sale to JP Morgan Chase was concurrent with the seizure in this case, so I'm not technically sure whether OTS or FDIC (or both) is responsible for the sale. Our article currently attributes the sale to OTS, but at least one news report says FDIC was instrumental in arranging the sale. Dragons flight (talk) 10:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Note: OTS is the regulator empowered to close/seize WaMu. Ordinarily the
This is fairly big news; I've gone ahead and updated with the following text:
In the
This seems accurate and informative to me, after looking at the article and multiple news reports. I've also updated the image to
- In the interest of maintaining a pretense of brevity, can I suggest using FDIC rather than Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation? The acronym is widely recognized, the phrase "as receiver" already provides context, and the link can satisfy people who want more. Even with that contraction, this item would still be the longest on ITN at the moment. Dragons flight (talk) 12:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The revised text is great, thanks to Slowking Man for apt revision, and others for helping to get this out when I was off line. Comment to Dragon's Flight on acronyms: It's preferable to spell out the first use of acronyms in any occasion, in preference to brevity, and its friendlier to an international audience. What South African or Brazilian knows what FDIC means?
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 13:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree it is generally a benefit to spell things out, but in this case I believe it would be a greater benefit to shorten the blurb. In the alternative, you could drop FDIC entirely and reduce the second sentence to: "The bank's accounts and operations are sold to JPMorgan Chase." I just scanned through the last six weeks of ITN history, and this stands out as the longest blurb during that time period. One way or another I feel this should be pruned back. Dragons flight (talk) 15:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Here is a better picture of WaMu center if anyone would think it's useful for the front page: Image:WaMu_Center_January_17_2008.jpg. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 15:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Or this one. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 15:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Belated support (and thanks, this was up before I read it in a newspaper). -SusanLesch (talk) 15:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
September 25
- exchange fire on the Afghan-Pakistan border. (The New York Times)
- Senior members of the United States Congress agree on a legislative deal to bail out the U.S. financial system from lingering effects of the subprime mortgage crisis. (AFP via News Limited)
- The Texas Supreme Court denies a petition by the Bob Barr US Presidential campaign seeking removal of Senators Barack Obama and John McCain from that state's ballot due to both candidates missing the filing deadline. (TX Supreme Court) (Nolan Report) (Dallas Morning News)
- An effigy of Barack Obama is found hanging from a tree at George Fox University in Newberg, Oregon. (AP via Google News)
- A young
- United States economy
- United States economy. (Fox Business)
- Home sales in the August 2008 fall to a 17-year low. (Bloomberg)
- Following the purchase of Electricité de France, plans for a new Hinkley Point C nuclear power station have been announced. (Nuclear News)
- The death toll from People's Republic of China as well as 8 people killed earlier in the Philippines. (CNN)
- Kgalema Motlanthe is sworn in as the third post-apartheid President of South Africa. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- Dark flow, a new and unexplained cosmic phenomenon, is observed by astronomers for the first time. (The Daily Telegraph)
- spacewalk. (Xinhua)(The New York Times)
ITN candidates for September 25
- Nominate New South African president. __talk) 12:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Posted, I updated the previous item. --Tone 13:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate: ]
- Suggest using "crew members" instead of taikonauts. Some Chinese media sources use astronauts, some use taikonauts. Best to use a term that everyone will understand. --Joowwww (talk) 16:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting. Taikonaut is becoming known so I will use it here. Feel free to change it later. --Tone 17:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- I took out the part about the spacewalk, as this has yet to happen. Pls feel free to put this back on ITN when this historic moment comes. --PFHLai (talk) 23:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support but Oppose the word taikonaut unless somebody can explain why it isn't in the article. -SusanLesch (talk) 06:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Taikonaut is not the talk) 13:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Ben I will copy a note to main page errors (no way to know when who will be available). -SusanLesch (talk) 15:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Taikonaut is not the
- As promised, I've just added a bit about ]
- Support but Oppose the word taikonaut unless somebody can explain why it isn't in the article. -SusanLesch (talk) 06:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Suggest using "crew members" instead of taikonauts. Some Chinese media sources use astronauts, some use taikonauts. Best to use a term that everyone will understand. --Joowwww (talk) 16:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
September 24
- At least 17 civilians are killed in battles between
- Subprime mortgage crisis
- President of the United States George W. Bush addresses the nation on prime time television to discuss the crisis and the Paulson plan. He warns that the United States faces a "long and painful recession" if the package is not passed. (AP via San Francisco Chronicle) (Canadian Press via Google News)
- President Bush invites Senator McCain, Senator Barack Obama the Democratic Party and leaders of the United States Congress to a meeting at the White House tomorrow to discuss the crisis. (AP via the New York Sun)
- Preliminary findings made for the American Geophysical Union that support the Clathrate gun hypothesis, indicate the possible release of millions of tons of methane, a greenhouse gas, from Arctic seabeds. (The Independent)
- The Taro Aso of the Liberal Democratic Party as the new Prime Minister of Japan. (AP via CNN) (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- Tomislav Nikolić announces that his party (a splinter from the Serbian Radical Party) will be called Serbian Progressive Party and that it will be founded on 21 October 2008. (B92)
- Typhoon Hagupit hits Vietnam, the Philippines and southern China, killing at least eight. (BBC News)
ITN candidates for September 24
- Nom: 18 are killed after Typhoon Hagupit hits the Philippines and China. --SpencerT♦C 23:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- And there's an image, too: Image:Typhoon Hagupit 23 September 2008.JPG
- Arctic scientists for the global warming by releasing large quantities of methane, a greenhouse gas.
- This is as important as an Antarctic ice shelf breaking off, but the information may need to be expanded (and an improvement to the blurb is needed). ~U) 23:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)]
September 23
- North Waziristan, but flew off after Pakistani troops and tribesmen opened fire. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Government officials say that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is looking into possible fraud for mortgage financing companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, and insurer American International Group. (AP via CNNMoney)
- The Large Hadron Collider near Geneva is shut down until the northern spring while engineers probe magnet failures. (BBC News)
- Ben Bernanke, the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, warns the United States Congress that failure to pass the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 quickly would make a recession more likely. (AP via Miami Herald)[permanent dead link]
- investment bank Nomura Holdings acquires the European, Asian and Middle Eastern equities and investment banking operations of Lehman Brothers. (MarketWatch)
- Sweden's National Television issues a public apology for a "misleading" report on comments made by foreign minister Carl Bildt about Sweden's intelligence services. (The Local)
- Colin Barnett is sworn in as the 29th Premier of Western Australia. (The West Australian)
- Eleven die in a school shooting in Kauhajoki, Finland. (BBC News)
ITN candidates for September 23
- Nominate Finland school shooting. Pretty major for a Western European nation and all the more so because it took place at a school --Daviessimo (talk) 11:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- I added it but ITN isn't my area of expertise. Can anybody double check if it is correct? Talk 12:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)]
September 22
- Heete Simm, who works as a lawyer at Estonia's National Police Board, are arrested on suspicion of spying for Russia. (The International Herald Tribune)
- Four people die in Puerto Rico as a result of heavy rains. (AP via Fox News)
- South Africa's ruling African National Congress party names deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe as the successor to President Thabo Mbeki. (Bloomberg News)
- More than 18,000 archived radio programs are indefinitely lost after the main
- ]
- Ham Lini. (The International Herald Tribune)
- 15 people, including 11 foreign nationals, are kidnapped near Aswan in southern Egypt. (BBC News)
- Radiocarbon dating estimates that Stonehenge was constructed around 2300 BC. (BBC News)
- The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 is debated on by the 110th United States Congress. (The New York Times)
- The Dow Jones Industrial Average falls by 370 points due to uncertainty over the plan. (The New York Times)
- A car is driven into a group of people in Jerusalem in what Israeli authorities are describing as a "terror attack". (BBC News)
ITN candidates for September 22
- elected to succeed Yasuo Fukuda as President of the Liberal Democratic Party in Japan, making him the likely candidate to become the next Prime Minister of Japan in two days. (Maybe we should wait till Taro Aso is officially named the PM in 2 days before this item appears on ITN?) --199.71.174.100 (talk) 20:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Wait until he becomes PM, then it goes up. This is a standard procedure on ITN. --Tone 21:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know. Just wanted to be the first one to mention "Taro Aso" here on ITN/C. :) --199.71.174.100 (talk) 14:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wait until he becomes PM, then it goes up. This is a standard procedure on ITN. --Tone 21:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ham Lini (pictured) after weeks of negotiations to form a new government. -- Nominated Scanlan (talk) 02:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Does anyone remember if the Vanuatu election was on here? If not then support. Either way, no to the photo. Random89 04:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
What's wrong with the photo? It needs to be cropped but beyond that, I don't see why it shouldn't go upEr nevermind I just realised the photo is of the outgoing PM not the new one. In that case I agree, don't see any reason for it Nil Einne (talk) 07:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)- Posting a shorter blurb. --Tone 07:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- I was wondering if it was possible for an editor to place some kind of editing protection on the Edward Natapei article if possible. Edward Natapei and the Prime Minister of Vanuatu have been repeatedly vandalized since they were posted on the front page, especially Natapei. Please take a look at the article history. This is very unusual for an article to be vandalized this much in such a short period of time. Thanks! Scanlan (talk) 02:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
September 21
- Mad Men wins the Emmy Award for Best Drama and 30 Rock wins for Best Comedy at the 60th Primetime Emmy Awards. (Reuters)
- investment banks on Wall Street, become bank holding companies as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis. (The New York Times)
- The number of babies in adulterated milk products and infant formula reaches 12,892. (CNN)
- The parliamentary election. (AFP via Melbourne Herald Sun)
- The United States wins the Ryder Cup for the first time since 1999. (The Times)
- Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni begins talks on forming a new government. (AP via Google News)
- 2008. (RTÉ)
- The New York Yankees beat The Baltimore Orioles, 7-3, at their last home game at Yankee Stadium. This is the last time the New York Yankees play at Yankee Stadium before moving to the New Yankee Stadium across the street. (Yankees.com)
ITN candidates for September 21
- USA beat Europe in the 2008 Ryder Cup to win {{Insert score here - not yet finished}} - Nothing wrong here I think. It'll probably get added to the Portal:Current events for today shortly. D.M.N. (talk) 21:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
-
- Hows that? Beat isn't the best word. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 23:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Already posted by Stephen. --PFHLai (talk) 23:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not thrilled about the linking of USA and Europe. First of all, Europe (as linked) is a geographical region, and has little to do with golfers. If there was a Team USA at the Ryder Cup aticle, that would be a good link, but right now I think both USA and Europe should be unlinked. Random89 16:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom: ]
- No, hold on a sec., wait a day. There might be a ballot check. SpencerT♦C 00:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Besides, the article is not in good shape either. I'll try to fix that in some days when more is known. --Tone 07:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- The results are currently unofficial and may change yet as there was such a small difference between SDS and SD. Some votes have not been counted yet. See [4] (Slovene) --my talk 10:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The results are currently unofficial and may change yet as there was such a small difference between SDS and SD. Some votes have not been counted yet. See [4] (Slovene) --
- Besides, the article is not in good shape either. I'll try to fix that in some days when more is known. --Tone 07:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- The number of babies in adulterated milk products and infant formula approaches 13,000. Please update the figure on ITN and move the headline up the template. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 01:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Nominate Goldman and Morgan becoming bank-holding companies, could be included in the section already on the main page about the subprime crisis.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 06:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
September 20
- A fire in a Chinese city of Shenzhen results in 43 dead and another 51 injured. (AFP via ABC News Australia)
- The Ugandan Lord's Resistance Army has launched a surprise offensive in Southern Sudan hitting an army base and villages in the nearby Democratic Republic of the Congo. (BBC News)
- Residents of Hurricane Ike destroyed much of the town. (CNN)
- The Bush administration asks the United States Congress for $700 billion to buy mortgage-related assets to try to resolve the subprime mortgage crisis. (AP via USA Today)
- War in North-West Pakistan:
- A suicide bomber attacks a Pakistan Army convoy, killing eight soldiers. (France 24)[permanent dead link]
- The 2008 Marriott Hotel bombing occurs. (AP via Google News)
- A
- South African President Thabo Mbeki agrees to resign after the ruling African National Congress requested him to step down.(Reuters Africa via Google News)
- drifted in Pakistani waters. (Press Trust of India)
ITN candidates for September 20
- Nominate: At least 40 people are killed and 100 injured in a .
Article okay...could be expanded, but an update is needed. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 18:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom: South African President Thabo Mbeki (pictured) agrees to resign after the ruling African National Congress requested him to step down. --Hapsala (talk) 19:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Article needs more updates, but otherwise, it's a good candidate. SpencerT♦C 21:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support, but I would prefer an article about the current crisis/development in South African politics, how Mbeki was "sacked" etc. Polipopo (talk) 02:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. When we have a page on the current crisis, we can switch the bolded link on ITN to that page. --PFHLai (talk) 04:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Belated support. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
September 19
- Four people die in a plane crash in Blink 182, and DJ AM being critically injured. (AP via CNN)
- Financial crisis of 2007–2010
- The short-selling of financial companies stock. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- The mutual funds up to an amount of $50 billion to guarantee their viability. (The New York Times)
- The New York Stock Exchange responds positively to these initiatives with the Dow Jones Industrial Average rising by 390 points. (The New York Times)
- The
- Nigerian Oil Crisis
- The Royal Dutch Shell. (BBC News)
- Nigerian oil production has been reduced by 280,000 barrels per day since renewed attacks on oil facilities began. (Bloomberg)
- The
- Professor Stephen Hawking unveils the Corpus Clock, a 'terrifying' new way to read the time, at Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, England. (BBC News)
- Travis Barker, drummer of Pop Punk band Blink-182 suffers life threatening injuries in a plane crash. (Today.com)
ITN candidates for September 19
- If someone created and article for the 2008 Nigerian Oil Crisis, I think we could have a good candidate...I've been seeing several stories in Portal:Current events days about related stuff. 00:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
September 18
- 2008 South Ossetia war:
- US President George W. Bush will urge Russia to honor its commitment to fully withdraw troops from Georgia during his speech at the United Nations General Assembly next week, a top White House official said Friday. (AFP via Google News)
- Russia says EU observers and extra Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) monitors should monitor situation on the border land of Georgia and South Ossetia and Abkhazia. On September 1 Tbilisi has withdrew from Dagomys peace agreement, which was providing legal basis for OSCE monitors in the two states. (EurAsia)
- Rozi Khan, the Governor of the Chora District in Afghanistan, is killed in a firefight involving Australian Army soldiers. (ABC News Australia)
- Sri Lankan Civil War: The Sri Lanka Navy sinks 10 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) boats and kills 25 LTTE rebels in heavy fighting off the port of Nachikkudah in Sri Lanka, according to the navy. (Reuters via The International Herald Tribune)
- 2008 Russian financial crisis:
- Trading is suspended for the third day in succession on MICEX and the dollar-denominated RTS, amidst fear of financial collapse. News agencies are quoting Russia's Finance Minister, Alexei Kudrin, as saying trading on Russian exchanges won't resume until September 19. (MarketWatch)
- Officials at MICEX stock exchange describe conditions in the Russian markets as "extraordinary". (The Times)
- Russia is facing its worst stock market decline in a decade mainly because of a confidence crisis rather than liquidity problems, Deputy Finance Minister Pyotr Kazakevich says. (Hurriyet)
- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev orders ministers to inject another 500 billion rubles (£10.8 billion, US$20 billion) of funds from the state budget into the markets and pledges in remarks broadcast on national television that the financial system would receive "all necessary support". (The Times)
- Trading is suspended for the third day in succession on
- Subprime mortgage crisis:
- British bank mortgage market. (BBC News)
- The treasury bonds, which are seen as a safe investment during rocky periods in the financial markets. (Riksgäldskontoret)
- Following the recent rapid fall of the share value of short selling in an attempt to bring about market stability in the United Kingdom. This action follows a similar move by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in the United States on Wednesday. (BBC News)
- Chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, to be dismissed. (The Wall Street Journal)
- Kraft Foods replaces American International Group in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. (Reuters via Forbes)
- The
- British bank
- A CH-47 Chinook helicopter crashes in southern Iraq killing seven United States soldiers. (AP via The New York Times)
- Pirates hijack a Greek bulk carrier with 25 crew aboard off the coast of Somalia. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link] (Wikinews)
- Bruessel/EU:In European media, journalists report that some US politicians and military personnel supported with financial help the Anti-Europe Movement in Ireland against the Treaty of Lisbon. Ftd:USA sollen EU-Vertrag sabotiert haben
ITN candidates for September 18
Nominate —
- It's in the portal news under Sept. 17, but I think the full results weren't confirmed until today. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Can we wait until she actually becomes the Prime Minister? - Mark 05:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking that the change of party leadership in a parliamentary system was roughly equivalent to the nomination of the Presidential candidates in the US — Obama and McCain made ITN when they secured the leadership of their parties, so why shouldn't Livni? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- That was rather controversial and really only got through because of the level of international coverage the/this US election buildup is receiving. (Plus with Obama since he was the first African American.) Changes of leadership of parties in countries with parliamentry systems are not necessarily uncommon (for example one happened several days ago in Australia) and definitely are not usually ITN worthy in themselves (the change of leader of opposition for example is definitely not in itself of sufficient significance for ITN). If there is something special about this change (is she the first female leader of a major party in Israel?) then there may be a case, but if the only thing here is she may become the Prime Minister then we should wait until she becomes Prime Minister. If she doesn't become Prime Minister then really there's no reason it should have been there anyway. Nil Einne (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think this was discussed before. It is not for sure she will become PM, she's only the predisent of the party now. We can put this on when she becomes PM. --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support when the time comes. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think this was discussed before. It is not for sure she will become PM, she's only the predisent of the party now. We can put this on when she becomes PM. --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- That was rather controversial and really only got through because of the level of international coverage the/this US election buildup is receiving. (Plus with Obama since he was the first African American.) Changes of leadership of parties in countries with parliamentry systems are not necessarily uncommon (for example one happened several days ago in Australia) and definitely are not usually ITN worthy in themselves (the change of leader of opposition for example is definitely not in itself of sufficient significance for ITN). If there is something special about this change (is she the first female leader of a major party in Israel?) then there may be a case, but if the only thing here is she may become the Prime Minister then we should wait until she becomes Prime Minister. If she doesn't become Prime Minister then really there's no reason it should have been there anyway. Nil Einne (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking that the change of party leadership in a parliamentary system was roughly equivalent to the nomination of the Presidential candidates in the US — Obama and McCain made ITN when they secured the leadership of their parties, so why shouldn't Livni? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Can we wait until she actually becomes the Prime Minister? - Mark 05:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate '
- Support adding this to the current item on the ]
- This blurb is becoming longer and longer, maybe we should drop one or two events that happened a few days ago and focus on the latest? --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Drop the Merrill Lynch-Bank of America story for this one. Or the AIG story since nothing really happened yet. –Howard the Duck 16:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I do not support Lloyds news. Not as big as US corp news. --gppande «talk» 18:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh so the rule is now that only US firms or banks going belly up are 'big' enough to get on ITN. £12.2bn is over $21Bn which is huge some of money. Also the newly merged firm will have over 35m customers and even with the expected 40,000 job losses will employ over 100,000 people (which is 4 times more than Lehmann brothers about 15,000 fewer than AIG). Oh but I forgot AIG 'nearly' collapsing is a bigger than this 'actual' development --Daviessimo (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Oh so the rule is now that only US firms or banks going belly up are 'big' enough to get on ITN. £12.2bn is over $21Bn which is huge some of money. Also the newly merged firm will have over 35m customers and even with the expected 40,000 job losses will employ over 100,000 people (which is 4 times more than Lehmann brothers about 15,000 fewer than AIG). Oh but I forgot
- Posted, by dropping Merrill Lynch from the existing blurb, adding in the HBOS news and rejigging it a bit. The fourth and fifth biggest banks in the United Kingdom merging is definitely 'as big as US corp news'. And HBOS is bigger than Merrill Lynch anyway. - Mark 03:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Suggestion Can the blurb be shortened down? -c4v3m4n 03:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- This blurb is becoming longer and longer, maybe we should drop one or two events that happened a few days ago and focus on the latest? --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- I definitely support this news piece as well and I agree with the removal of Merrill Lynch since both AIG and Lehman supersede that item in terms of market impact. Given the condition of English financial markets, we definitely need more coverage of the subprime crisis in the UK too. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Belated support. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate "Somchai Wongsawat is selected to be the next Prime Minister of Thailand during that country's current political crisis."
- Or something like that. New PM seems pretty newsworthy to me. - Mark 09:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support, we usually include such type of news. --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support. --gppande «talk» 18:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support. New national leaders are always newsworthy. Benjaminx (talk) 22:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. - Mark 03:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
September 17
- The emerging 2008 baby milk scandal shows evidence of coverup by officials during the Olympics. (MSNBC)
- The falls by 440 points as the bailout of the American International Group by the Federal Reserve fails to reassure jittery investors. (The New York Times)
- Foreign Minister of Israel Tzipi Livni is selected as the new leader of the Kadima party, putting her in position to possibly become the first female Prime Minister of Israel since Golda Meir. (Reuters)
- Rwanda becomes the first nation where women outnumber men in parliament. (BBC News)
- 2008 Russian financial crisis:
- Trading is suspended for the second day in succession on MICEX and the dollar-denominated RTS) after shares fall dramatically, forcing the central bank in Moscow to intervene. (The Times) (Bloomberg)
- Russia's government lends the country's three biggest banks, Sberbank, VTB Bank and Gazprombank, as much as 1.13 trillion rubles ($44 billion) for at least three months to boost liquidity. (Bloomberg)
- Trading is suspended for the second day in succession on
- embassy in Yemen that results in 16 confirmed deaths. (The New York Times)
- The Lloyds TSB as HBOS share prices plummet as a result of exposure to the subprime mortgage crisis. (AP via International Herald Tribune)
- nuclear warheads in Jammu and Kashmir amidst continuing ceasefire violations with Pakistan along the Line of Control. (Times of India)
- National Assembly of Thailand with King Bhumibol Adulyadej having to endorse the selection. (AFP via The Canberra Times)
- BAA Limited decides to sell Gatwick Airport following a recent ruling by the United Kingdom Competition Commission. (BBC News)
- The Haumea as the fifth dwarf planet in the Solar System and names it after the Hawaiian goddess of childbirth and fertility. (IAU press release)
- National Television Service, a free-to-air state-run channel which competes with EM TV. (ABC News Australia)
ITN candidates for September 17
- More than 6,200 children in ]
I'd suggest an update to the lead Subprime Crisis item indicating that Lehman Brothers is to be partially acquired by
]- Comment The 2008 unrest in Bolivia really needs to be mentioned, its been going on for days. Medvedenko (talk) 21:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Nominate the Nergaal (talk) 21:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)]
- More on the subprime crisis; the UK press are reporting that Lloyds TSB has agreed to take over HBOS to avoid the latter's collapse. --Kwekubo (talk) 22:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Nom 2008 Yemeni American embassy attack...It needs some updates, and I'll try to do that. SpencerT♦C 01:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Done. Wording: 16 are killed in an San‘a’, Yemen.
- Should American embassy link to United States–Yemen relations? Thanks, SpencerT♦C 02:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. - Mark 03:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Belated support. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. - Mark 03:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
September 16
- Unrest in Bolivia:
- Governor of Pando Leopoldo Fernández is taken into custody by the armed forces, on charges of hiring hitmen to attack pro-government protesters. (BBC News)
- The United States organises at least two evacuation flights from Bolivia as the political situation worsens. (AP via Google News)
- Fighting in Somalia has killed 838 people since June, according to local rights activists, bringing the total to have died in an insurgency that began early last year to 9,474. (Reuters)
- 2008 Russian financial crisis:
- MICEX and the dollar-denominated RTS suspend trade for one hour after the worst one-day fall in ten years as Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin reassured markets there was no "systemic" crisis. (Reuters)
- United States Federal Reserve agrees to lend the American International Group $85 billion in return for a 79.9% stake. (The New York Times)
- Six men have been found guilty of terrorism-related offences in Melbourne, Australia. Abdul Nacer Benbrika was found guilty of intentionally directing the activities of a terrorist organization while five other men were found guilty of being members of the same organization. Four other men were acquitted and the jury is still considering its verdict on two men. (ABC News Australia)
- The Iraq war. (The Local)
- Doghmush organised crime family leaves 5 dead in Gaza City. (BBC News)
- Ukraine's ruling coalition is formally dissolved after parties supporting Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, in alliance with the Party of Regions, pushed legislation limiting the powers of President Viktor Yushchenko resulting in his party's withdrawal from the coalition. Tymoshenko's party is expected to form an alliance with the Party of Regions or new elections will be held. (AFP via Google News)
- 2008 South Ossetia war. (AFP via Rawstory) (The Telegraph)
- The employees (not the members) of Oregon's largest teachers' union go on strike against the union itself. (OPB News)
- Leader of the Opposition following a leadership spill. (News Limited)
- The Chinese romanization, switching from the previously-official Tongyong Pinyin.(Taipei Times), (China Post)
ITN candidates for September 16
- Nominating 2008 Ukrainian political crisis since past situations tended to result in problems, greater attention will be given here following the conflict in Georgia, and it could lead to a major shift in Ukraine's political situation as well as impacting its potential NATO membership.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 09:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support IF the parliament has officially been dissolved because snap elections are normally ITN material --Daviessimo (talk) 10:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Snap elections announcement makes it to ITN. Otherwise... maybe, what would the headline be? Even the formation of different government would be ITN. Let's wait a day or two to see the development. --Tone 11:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Coalition is down; posted.--chaser - t 03:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - as it is now - "related to the South Ossetia war" - it gives an wp:undue weight to South Ossetia war as a main reason of the crisis. This is disputable and sources like BBC doesn't even mention the war as a reason for the crisis. See also latest edits to the article and article talk page. --windyhead (talk) 17:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Comment - as it is now - "related to the South Ossetia war" - it gives an
- Coalition is down; posted.--chaser - t 03:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - The New York Times has reported that American International Group may file for bankruptcy protection as early as Wednesday, September 17. This would be the largest bankruptcy in United States history and possibly the largest bankruptcy in world history. AIG is the largest insurance company in the world and its collapse will, according to the Times, have far reaching global financial impact. This could be combined with the news on Lehman and Merrill Lynch, provided that it's reposted at the top to provide more updated coverage. Otherwise, it can stand by itself as a major news event. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 16:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support if this happens and if the article is updated properly. From natural didasters to bank disasters in a couple of days... --Tone 17:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
September 15
- The government of recognizes the independence of Kosovo. (New Kosova Report)
- El Grito Independence Day celebrations in the main square of Morelia, Michoacán. (BBC News) (El Universal)
- Hewlett-Packard announces plans to cut 24,600 jobs. (Reuters)
- Shots are fired into the air in a confrontation between US and Pakistani forces; US forces retreat; Pakistan denies involvement of their forces. (BBC News)
- Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, the Secretary General of NATO, visits Georgia in a show of support. (AP via USA Today)
- Richard Wright, a founding member of the English rock group Pink Floyd, dies at the age of 65 after a long battle with cancer. (CNN)
- At least 11 spectators die in a stampede at a club football match in Butembo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, following a riot incited when a goalkeeper used an animist spell in an attempt to rally his team. (Radio Okapi via ESPN)
- Twelve tourists are killed and 37 injured when a Ras Sidr in Egypt. Reports suggest 7 of the 12 dead are foreign nationals. (Sky News)
- A the country's army. (The Telegraph)
- Shell in the Rivers State region in the south of the country. (BBC News)
- A stampede in the Indonesian town of Pasuruan leaves 21 people dead, most of whom are thought to be women. (BBC News)
- At least one person has died and 26 are missing after a Bandirma. (Sky News)
- Subprime mortgage crisis
- Chapter 11 bankruptcy resulting from the subprime mortgage crisis. (The New York Times)
- The Dow Jones Industrial Average falls by over 500 points as the New York Stock Exchange responds to events over the weekend. (The New York Times)
- Six men have been found guilty of terrorism-related offences in Melbourne, Australia. Abdul Nacer Benbrika was found guilty of intentionally directing the activities of a terrorist organization while five other men were found guilty of being members of the same organisation. Four other men were acquitted and the jury is still considering its verdict on two men. (ABC News Australia)
- Hurricane Ike (2008)
- The remnants of Ike are blamed for 13 more deaths in the Midwestern United States. (Boston Herald)
- More than one million households in the Midwestern United States are left without electricity due to high winds. (Columbus Dispatch)
- President George W. Bush warns that motorists will face a "pinch" from rising costs caused by Hurricane Ike. (AP via Fox News)
- NASA scientists report that the
ITN candidates for September 15
- Nominating talk) 06:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- We need a headline with no redlinks. Anyways, pls see on-going discussion on Subprime mortgage crisis and related wikiarticles at #ITN candidates for September 14 below. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 07:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Suggest an update of the Zimbabwe power sharing deal to show it is official and that Tsvangarai in the now PM --Daviessimo (talk) 10:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- As part of a power-sharing agreement with President Robert Mugabe, opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai takes office as Prime Minister of Zimbabwe, a post previously abolished by Mugabe's regime in 1987. --PFHLai (talk) 06:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)]
- That sounds good to me. Although the emboldened link should be power-sharing agreement so it links to the 2008 Zimbabwean political negotiations article which has more info --Daviessimo (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC)]
- As part of a
- Amateur supernova hunters Koichi Itagaki and Hiroshi Kaneda rediscovered on September 10 the long-lost comet D/1896 R2, which had been discovered by the French astronomer Michel Giacobini at Nice on September 4, 1896. With a period of a little less than 7 years, this comet had returned sixteen times without being seen until now. It was added to the list of periodic cometsas the 205th such comet.
- Nominating ]
September 14
- 2008 South Ossetia war:
- The Georgian foreign ministry has released an official statement stating that 'In the villages of the Tskhinvali region/South Ossetia, Georgia, the separatist regime continues carrying out persecution of local Georgian population based on their ethnic origin', adding that 'Once again it becomes evident that for the Russian government the ethnic cleansing remains as one of the main methods for achieving its political goals'. (Rustavi 2)
- Dick Cheney on his visit to Tbilisi, Georgia (country) earlier condemned Russian "invasion" and said that United States was "fully committed" to Georgia's efforts to join NATO. (Sky News)
- Russian forces have pulled out of the Black Sea port of Poti and are preparing to withdraw from positions in western Georgia. Russian forces are to withdraw completely from Georgia proper to an October 10 deadline. EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said he was confident this deadline would be met. (Reuters) (The International Herald Tribune) (Sky News)
- Saakashvili on plans to regain control on Abkhazia and South Ossetia since 2005 but was sure that Georgia could not succeed by military means. (Spiegel) (Civil.Ge)
- The
- Subprime mortgage crisis
- The United States Federal Reserve. (The New York Times)
- Merrill Lynch for $38.25 billion in stock. (The New York Times) (The Wall Street Journal)
- The United States Federal Reserve announces several initiatives to expand emergency lending to combat the crisis. (AP via Minneapolis St-Paul Tribune)
- Chapter 11 bankruptcy after British bank Barclays and Bank of America pull out of emergency talks on a buyout. (AFP via Google News) (The New York Times)
- The
- Hurricane Ike
- Authorities in Texas have rescued nearly 2,000 victims of Hurricane Ike who refused to evacuate. (AP via Google News)
- The American death toll from Hurricane Ike rises to 8. (The New York Times)
- Shootout between police and unknown assailants leaves 20 police officers dead in Ashkhabad, Turkmenistan. (The Sydney Morning Herald)
- Monza, becoming the youngest driver in history to win a Formula One grand prix. (BBC News)
- Two people are killed and 10 injured when a tourist riverboat collides with a pillar of the River Seine in Paris. (The Telegraph)
- 2008 Thai political crisis: The Acting Prime Minister of Thailand Somchai Wongsawat lifts a state of emergency in place since September 2. (The New York Times)
- The National Party of Western Australia indicates that it will support the Liberal Party of Australia in forming a minority government in Western Australia. Liberal leader, Colin Barnett, becomes the Premier-elect and incumbent Premier Alan Carpenter of the Australian Labor Party concedes defeat. (The Australian)[permanent dead link]
- Perm in Russia, killing all 88 on board. The cause of the crash is attributed to engine failure. (BBC News) (AP via Chicago Tribune)[permanent dead link]
- 2008 unrest in Bolivia
- Brazil suffers severe natural gas shortages following the cut off of natural gas supplies from Bolivia, which provides half of Brazil's natural gas. (Financial Times)[permanent dead link]
- Government officials announce they plan to arrest Pando Governor Leopoldo Fernández and that troops from Cobija airport will be sent to retake the city. (Reuters)
- Accusations of witchcraft cause football riots in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, resulting in 13 dead and 36 injured. (The Daily Telegraph)
ITN candidates for September 14
Nominate Flight 821. Article's short, but definitely a notable topic. Maybe some new info will emerge overnight. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 03:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, but Aeroflot Flight 821 still needs to be de-stubbed. We'll wait. --PFHLai (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- After causing more than 80 deaths in ]
- Landfall is not really descriptive, maybe you should formulate it in such a way that it mentions damage caused? --Tone 22:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Try to include Effects of Hurricane Ike in Texas. --Tone 22:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- I deliberately left Effects of Hurricane Ike in Texas out to avoid the appearance of US-centrism on MainPage. Effects of Hurricane Ike in Haiti are much more lethal and severe, yet we don't even have a wikiarticle. I chose to focus on the landfall because the landfall pic appears to be the best pic available when midnight UTC comes. With a short TFA coming in, the LA train crash may have to come off ITN soon in order to balance MainPage. We need a new pic soon. --PFHLai (talk) 23:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support If we need an image, there's plenty of Ike. SpencerT♦C 00:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, try to include both articles, effects on Haiti and effects on Texas. ITN should also promote newly created articles and this is not too US-centric, if you include both. --Tone 09:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- The issue is, we don't have an article on the effects on Haiti. SpencerT♦C 11:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like Hurricane Ike won't make a second landfall at ITN till Wikipedia has a more balanced coverage of the hurricane damages. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 17:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- The issue is, we don't have an article on the effects on Haiti. SpencerT♦C 11:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, try to include both articles, effects on Haiti and effects on Texas. ITN should also promote newly created articles and this is not too US-centric, if you include both. --Tone 09:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support If we need an image, there's plenty of Ike. SpencerT♦C 00:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I deliberately left Effects of Hurricane Ike in Texas out to avoid the appearance of US-centrism on MainPage. Effects of Hurricane Ike in Haiti are much more lethal and severe, yet we don't even have a wikiarticle. I chose to focus on the landfall because the landfall pic appears to be the best pic available when midnight UTC comes. With a short TFA coming in, the LA train crash may have to come off ITN soon in order to balance MainPage. We need a new pic soon. --PFHLai (talk) 23:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Try to include Effects of Hurricane Ike in Texas. --Tone 22:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- (Revised) After causing more than 80 deaths in Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Cuba, Hurricane Ike moves to the United States where at least 38 more people are killed. --PFHLai (talk) 06:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Landfall is not really descriptive, maybe you should formulate it in such a way that it mentions damage caused? --Tone 22:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate -
- Though unusual, I actually support this one because of the recent catastrophy-biased coverage. Good we still have CERN up there...--Tone 22:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Depressing stuff. I support. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 22:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- 2008 Italian Grand Prix needs more references. Otherwise it is good to go up. Or should the focus be on Vettel? There is not much update regarding the news there... --Tone 22:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose There are many auto races, and this isn't listed at WP:ITNSPORTS. However, Support if the focus is on the driver, who is the youngest to win an F1 race. SpencerT♦C 00:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Sebastian Vettel#2008 needs footnotes and refs. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 03:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think ITNSPORTS is relevant here. ITNSPORTS makes it clear it's not intended to supercede normal discussion when there is an unusual event. Despite the perhaps confusing suggestion above, I don't think anyone is trying to suggest we put up this race because we should put up every F1 race or every Italian GP but rather because of the record here of Vettel being the youngest person ever to win an F1 race. Whether the reason is good enough is a relevant point of contention and the article clearly needs to be up to scratch but I think any discussion should be on the real issues here. I do agree the depressing part doesn't seem of great relevance to the discussion either Nil Einne (talk) 06:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've updated Vettel's article with a section devoted to the Grand Prix but its only small as its hard to maintain the focus on the Driver without wondering to much towards a race report. I definately think we can get this up as it is a very noteworthy event in sport -- Daviessimo (talk) 09:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- OK I've updated this a bit more now so that it is a decent size and contains several references. It can be updated with more imformation about the race (or specifically how Vettel did) but i'll only add that if its not considered ready to go up --Daviessimo (talk) 11:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- What is it with the lack of admins on ITN? Its over 24hrs since an update and the concensus is that this should go up --Daviessimo (talk) 12:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK I've updated this a bit more now so that it is a decent size and contains several references. It can be updated with more imformation about the race (or specifically how Vettel did) but i'll only add that if its not considered ready to go up --Daviessimo (talk) 11:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've updated
- Oppose There are many auto races, and this isn't listed at
- 2008 Italian Grand Prix needs more references. Otherwise it is good to go up. Or should the focus be on Vettel? There is not much update regarding the news there... --Tone 22:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting. The article looks ok now. --Tone 16:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Depressing stuff. I support. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 22:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Angolan legislative election, 2008, the first election there in 16 years, is not depressing. The official results came out on September 9th. Maybe we can stick this to the bottom of ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 03:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Actually the official results are not out yet, only the provisional results although the results are clear. And I would say it's at least a bit depressing, while it's good that they've finally held an election after such a long time and one that went off without major incident, the article suggests they've still far away from an ideal democracy Angolan legislative election, 2008#Observers and assessments of the election. Nil Einne (talk) 06:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Look on the bright side -- things are improving there, just slowly. It's a significant moment in Angolan history anyhow. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 07:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- So what would the blurb here be? --Tone 09:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- The ruling first parliamentary elections in Angola since 1992. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 17:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I'd rather say majority instead of 82%. So is this official or still provisional? At least secure enough to put it on ITN? --Tone 17:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Either way, the opposition has already conceded (See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7605454.stm or Ref.24 in the article.) It was a landslide victory for the MPLA. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 19:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting. --Tone 21:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Either way, the opposition has already conceded (See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7605454.stm or Ref.24 in the article.) It was a landslide victory for the MPLA. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 19:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- The ruling
- So what would the blurb here be? --Tone 09:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Look on the bright side -- things are improving there, just slowly. It's a significant moment in Angolan history anyhow. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 07:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Actually the official results are not out yet, only the provisional results although the results are clear. And I would say it's at least a bit depressing, while it's good that they've finally held an election after such a long time and one that went off without major incident, the article suggests they've still far away from an ideal democracy
Comment - It took a little longer than I thought (see my first suggestion further down this page) but I expect two things will happen tomorrow: 1.
- AIG is also planning a major announcement tomorrow, which may prove to be equally important to those of the three banks mentioned above. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 23:14, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Wait for the talks to be completed before this goes up. SpencerT♦C 00:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Merrill Lynch is sold to Bank of America after intense negotiations. It is one of the largest banking mergers in United States history. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 02:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Lehman Brothers files for bankruptcy protection amid falling stock prices from the ongoing subprime mortgage crisis in the United States. It is one of the largest investment banking failures in history. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 02:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Merged: Merrill Lynch is sold to Bank of America amid sweeping changes on Wall Street as part of the ongoing subprime mortgage crisis. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 02:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I'd support this merged version. - Mark 02:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Can the {{Merrill Lynch be taken care of before this shows up on the main page? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 03:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I put it there, it seems that several editors have worked on correcting those issues so I'll go ahead and remove it. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting, the merged blurb is fine. --Tone 09:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
(unindent)Okay, the Lehman brothers article looks okay, while a 2-sentence update for Merrill Lynch isn't good. If possible, please update further Merrill Lynch. SpencerT♦C 11:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'll put more information, but bear in mind that before Sunday afternoon, that article was missing any relevant history for Merrill from the past 10 years. I'll update it further at some point today. Also, American International Group and Washington Mutual are both on deck for big news in the next week, so I will work on those articles as well. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 15:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
September 13
- The death toll from the 2008 Chatsworth train collision in Los Angeles rises to 24 with more fatalities expected. (Reuters)
- Five explosions rock various places in Delhi, killing at least 30 people. (India Times)
- Hurricane Ike:
- Hurricane Ike makes landfall in the United States at Galveston, Texas, as a Category 2 hurricane. (Bloomberg)
- Hurricane Ike weakens to a tropical storm over eastern Texas. (National Hurricane Center via Nola.com)
- President George W. Bush declares that Texas is a disaster zone. (BBC News)
- As many as one million Haitians become homeless due to hurricanes. (BBC)
- Abullah Wardak, the Governor of the Lowgar Province of Afghanistan, is assassinated in a car bomb. (AFP via Google News)
- China kills 254 people. (Xinhua News Agency)
- A bus crashes into a 100 m gorge in China, killing 51. (Zee News)
- The
- 2008 South Ossetia war:
- Russians troops leave west, but remain in Georgia. (AP via Google News)
- North Ossetia, Russia, others were forced to relocate during the conflict. (Press Trust of India)
- A US Defense Department team to arrive in Georgia. (Rustavi 2)
- Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday that Abkhazia and South Ossetia cannot legally join the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) due to their status, local press reported. (Xinhua)
- Western countries are pledging substantial aid to Georgia – as much as 3.5-4 billion dollars in grants and loans. (RP)
- Georgia's President Mikheil Saakashvili has arrived in the village of Koda and to supervise rehabilitation works of ten blocks, owned by the Georgian Defense ministry, in which the IDPs from South Ossetia will be temporarily settled there. (Rustavi 2)
ITN candidates for September 13
Nominate - At least 24 people are killed in a train collision in Los Angeles, California. Good article that is well updated and also includes possible pictures. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 23:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- This is already on ITN. SpencerT♦C 23:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Whoops, tee-hee. Now I feel like an idiot. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 03:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate - There is an ongoing series of bomb blasts in New Delhi. So far at least 5 blasts have been reported and 12 people killed.
- An article needs to be created for this, and as anon, I cannot create. --122.162.60.204 (talk) 14:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article is 2008 New Delhi bombings. Some more updates and I can put this up. Propose a good formulation. --Tone 15:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The article is
- An article needs to be created for this, and as anon, I cannot create. --122.162.60.204 (talk) 14:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate - Hurricane Ike makes landfall over Galveston, Texas. Justice America (talk) 13:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate - The
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- Posting, I will just change the wording to mention rugby and write New Zealand instead of All Blacks because not everyone is familiar with this term. --Tone 13:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- The teams name is officially (and colloquially) the All Blacks, unlike the other countires teams. How does this sound?
Alternative 1 -
- Ok, better. Still, I have omitted the result as we usually don't include it. --Tone 13:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Last thing, could you possibly change the "In talk) 13:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Done. --Tone 13:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Last thing, could you possibly change the "In
- Oppose. The All Blacks almost always win this tourney, it's not news anymore. –Howard the Duck 01:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've removed this news story. The article as it stands isn't updated enough to satisfy the updated content requirements of WP:ITNMP, namely "Updated content must be thoroughly referenced" (there is only one reference provided) and "while articles in topics such as sporting events ... lend themselves to tables of numbers, updates must be at least in part written in prose to qualify for ITN consideration". I couldn't find any prose in there which says that New Zealand won the series. - Mark 02:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I've updated the article now, 4 citations and rewriten some of the prose to indicate All Blacks won. Could you either re-add it, or tell me what I need to do in addition to that? talk) 04:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Thanks for addressing my concerns. It's still a little low on the prose for my liking (why no match summaries or things like that?) but in any event I've restored it now. - Mark 09:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've updated the article now, 4 citations and rewriten some of the prose to indicate All Blacks won. Could you either re-add it, or tell me what I need to do in addition to that?
- Nominate. FBI announced looser restrictions on national-security probes. “Wall Street Journal”AnAnthro (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom: 2008 Shanxi mudslide. Needs some expanding, and I'll try to do it. SpencerT♦C 14:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
A BIG thanks to Tone for his outstanding work in keeping ITN lighting fast... Keep up buddy. --gppande «talk» 20:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- :-) I have realized that I am sometimes forgetting to add ITN banner on the talkpages of the articles featured and on the nominator's talk. Someone please add it when I forget (or I don't have time to do it). --Tone 20:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
September 12
- Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 2501: Fifty years after the airliner vanished over Lake Michigan, it is claimed that human remains washed ashore and were buried without the relatives' knowledge in an unmarked mass grave.(Detroit Free Press)
- 2008 unrest in Bolivia
- Bolivia declares martial law in the department of Pando following days of clashes between supporters of the national and local governments. (AFP) (BBC Mundo)
- Honduran President Manuel Zelaya tells the incoming U.S. ambassador not to present his credentials in a show of solidarity with Bolivia and Venezuela. (Reuters)
- The collapse of the United Kingdom's third largest tour operator XL Leisure Group, leaves over 85,000 British holidaymakers stranded abroad. (BBC)
- Twenty Four people die in Chatsworth in Los Angeles, California following a collision between a Metrolink passenger train and a Union Pacific freight train. At least 135 people were also injured in the accident. (Los Angeles Times) (San Francisco Chronicle)
- A
- The Thai People's Power Party agrees not to renominate ousted Prime Minister of Thailand Samak Sundaravej for the position following objections from the other members of the coalition. (AP via ABC News America)
- The Bajaur region of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas. (AP via Google News)
- The
- The United States-led coalition claims to kill at least 10 militants in fighting in Afghanistan. (AP via Google News)
- The election for November 8. (Melbourne Herald Sun)
- North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il is said by Chinese authorities to be suffering irregular convulsions following a stroke which kept him from attending the country's 60th anniversary celebration. Chinese authorities believe his long-term ability to govern will be impeded. (AFP via Google News)
- The planned referendum on working towards self-determination as only the Government of Spain could call such a vote; the Basque Government said it would appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. (IHT)
ITN candidates for September 12
- Nominate: ]
- This is a scheduled election, not a snap election. The calling of the election was merely a procedural move. We should wait till we have the final results are in the article before we post this on ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 06:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I still don't think we should have put the Canadian election, which while an early election was evidentally nothing unusual. But this one has even less reason. If we're going to put this, we might as well make it official policy to put every election when it's called if there is a suitable article Nil Einne (talk) 08:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Canada's election was a snap election; it belongs up there. If this one is a regular election, which it is, then it does not. --Talk : Contrib) 18:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Canada's election was a snap election; it belongs up there. If this one is a regular election, which it is, then it does not. --
- Agreed. I still don't think we should have put the Canadian election, which while an early election was evidentally nothing unusual. But this one has even less reason. If we're going to put this, we might as well make it official policy to put every election when it's called if there is a suitable article Nil Einne (talk) 08:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate: A Los Angeles kills 15. – Zntrip 05:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Support, but the article needs some expansion. SpencerT♦C 14:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Much better now. Could be used with Image:Chatsworth Train Collision 20080913-022324.jpg. SpencerT♦C 18:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting. 4th new ITN item today. --Tone 19:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Much better now. Could be used with Image:Chatsworth Train Collision 20080913-022324.jpg. SpencerT♦C 18:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
September 11
- al Qaeda in Iraq, and accuses that organization's umbrella group, the Islamic State of Iraq, of lying to the media about its activities.
- Prices for oil fall (CNN Money), and wholesale prices for gasoline rise sharply. (CNN Money)
- 2008 unrest in Bolivia:
- Fresh violence in Bolivia stokes civil war fears. (Times of India)
- The President of Venezuela Hugo Chávez gives the United States ambassador 72 hours to leave Venezuela in part to show solidarity with the President Evo Morales who recently expelled the U.S. ambassador to Bolivia, accusing the U.S. of supporting protests against Morales. (AP via Google News)
- Morgan Tsvangirai, the leader of the Movement for Democratic Change, claims that a power sharing agreement has been reached with the President of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe. (BBC News)
- Officials order the Hurricane Ike makes landfall later in the week. (USA Today)
- President George W. Bush is reported to have authorized United States special forces to conduct operations against insurgents inside Pakistan without seeking approval from the Government of Pakistan. (CNN)
- A new survey of residents of 17 countries by WorldPublicOpinion.org indicates that an average of 46 percent believe that
- Two Tu-160 bombers arrive in Venezuela to carry out training flights over a course of several days. (BBC News)
- A 6.6 magnitude earthquake hits near Ternate, Indonesia, followed by a 7.2 magnitude quake near Hokkaido, Japan. (BBC News)
- Forty people go missing in the northern Indian state of Bihar after a boat capsizes in the Harohar River. (AP via Google News)
- A fire occurs in the Channel Tunnel and the tunnel is closed until further notice. (BBC News)
- The September 11, 2001, is opened to the public. (ABC News)
ITN candidates for September 11
- Nominate. The ]
- Nominate. The Channel Tunnel fire . Major transport artery between UK and France (and longest undersea tunnel) is closed. Pretty noteworthy I'd say
- Are there any deaths or ₤100000+ damage to the tunnel? Otherwise, it's not quite notable as it is. Just because it is closed doesn't exactly meet notability. SpencerT♦C 19:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I updated Channel Tunnel fire (2008) is already written. Looks WP has recorded more than 1 fire :-D Which two would be extinguished??? --gppande «talk» 19:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I support this. Good article, news, etc. Put 'er up! BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 01:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Query: The tunnel wasn't destroyed. There was no high death toll. What is the significance of this fire? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 06:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- The significance is because the tunnel is widely regarded as a huge feat of engineering (often seen as one of the seven modern wonders of the world), is a key transport artery in North Western Europe that could have far reaching consequences in hauliage etc given the current economic climate. Latest news i have seen suggests the fire is under control but still burning some 17 hours later which is longer than the 1996 fire. Obviously no one will know the damage as of yet but it could 10's of million of pounds
- Query: The tunnel wasn't destroyed. There was no high death toll. What is the significance of this fire? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 06:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I support this. Good article, news, etc. Put 'er up! BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 01:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I updated
- I support this. The tunnel is the longest under-sea tunnel in the world, and this is (apparently) only the second fire in its history. - Mark 07:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- What't the consensus on this going up. It now appears that this was a major fire destroying almost 30 lorries and damaging over 700m of tunnel. It is likely to cost several hundred million pounds to repair and will affect services through the tunnel for months to come -77.96.49.30 (talk) 21:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate. agreement between President Robert Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai.
- When will Politics of Zimbabwe get updated with info on the new political structure? Looking forward to seeing this on ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 06:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support: The article 2008 Zimbabwean political negotiations is too much elaborate. I think this is great news to go up. Also the red banner on top of this page looks ugly. Some admin please update the ITN with above nominated blurb quickly. --gppande «talk» 07:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)]
- WHERE ARE ADMINS???? SINCE 52 HOURS NO UPDATE. WHY IS THIS NOT GOING UP? --gppande «talk» 13:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
September 10
- 2008 United States presidential election: Former Republican candidate Ron Paul endorses third-party candidates Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader, calling the two-party system a "charade."(Los Angeles Times)
- Philip Goldberg, for allegedly encouraging anti-government protests. (CBS)[permanent dead link]
- OPEC announces it will cut oil production by 500,000 barrels a day; prices rise accordingly. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- U.S.-based financial services company Lehman Brothers announces a third-quarter loss of $4.9 billion and plans to sell assets. (CNN Money)
- The U.K., Germany, and Spain 'to fall into recession'; the outlook for rest of the Eurozone is gloomy. (BBC News)
- The Kim Jong-il has a serious health problem. (AFP via Google News)
- Western intelligence officials say Kim Jong-il might have suffered a stroke (BBC News) (NPR), which North Korea denies. (Reuters)
- CERN successfully circulates a beam through the entire Large Hadron Collider for the first time. (Wired) (Wired)
- 2008 South Ossetia war:
- Some members of the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs have expressed disagreement with Georgia's actions in the war: 'The recent fighting [...] was started by Georgia. The Georgians broke the truce, not the Russians' said Dana Rohrabacher, Senior Republican. (RT via YouTube) (RT)
ITN candidates for September 10
September 9
- Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola wins more than 80% of the votes. (BBC)
- Minnesota Senate election. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- The Mullaittivu. (BBC News)
- Prime Minister of Malaysia Abdullah Ahmad Badawi states that the governing United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) will punish Ahmad Ismail, a party official, for a series of statements he made about Malaysia's ethnic Chinese population. (Wall Street Journal)
- The United Nations decides to withdraw aid workers from Tamil Tiger-held areas of Sri Lanka. (BBC News)
- Hurricane Ike makes its second landfall on Cuba, near San Cristóbal, north of the Isle of Youth, on its way into the Gulf of Mexico. (CNN)
- A Thai court rules that Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej must be removed from office for receiving payment for appearing on a television cooking show. (AP via Google News)
- US President George W. Bush pledges 4,500 troops to Afghanistan over the next few months and orders 8,000 troops currently stationed in Iraq to be home by February. (CBC News)
- Apple Inc. unveils the revamped iPod line-up including the redesigned, fourth-generation iPod Nano. (Reuters)
- Georgian opposition members demand President of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili's resignation. Saakashvili believes he will "survive the crisis politically". (Washington Post)(Newstin)
ITN candidates for September 9
The new setup in CERN starts operating tomorrow. Make sure the article is in good condition so that it gets a place on ITN. Some good science news! --Tone 20:47, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- We should be looking at Large Hadron Collider instead of CERN as it speaks more of the Big Bang experiment. --gppande «talk» 21:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I know, LHC. There is not much about tomorrow's test running in the article yet but no doubt there will be soon. No black holes, I hope :-) --Tone 21:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- We should be looking at Large Hadron Collider instead of CERN as it speaks more of the Big Bang experiment. --gppande «talk» 21:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- This may be news for the mainstream media, but I don't see why we should put it on the main page yet. Sending the first beam around — which is what is supposedly happening tomorrow — is not that big of a deal. We should only be putting this on the main page when they do something that hasn't been done before (i.e., colliding at full speed, making some sort of discovery, etc). --- RockMFR 00:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I sort of agree, sort of disagree. There's been a lot of build-up to this first test, but it will be far more noteworth if they find the Higgs boson. If nothing better, post this, I say. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 02:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's the largest science experiment ever, that alone makes it worthwhile. The conspiracy theories about Earth's destruction are just icing on the crazy cake. Besides, we so rarely have news that's something other than sports, elections or disasters. This would be nice for a change. --Hemlock Martinis (talk) 03:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, the news should be put up once the experiment begins today and later if there is a major discovery then the blurb can be updated accordingly or another blurb can be put up. What is the scenario at the time of discovery. But let's put it up for now --gppande «talk» 08:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- The first beam is successfully steered around the Large Hadron Collider accelerator ring at CERN, Switzerland. (ready to put this up when the formulation in the article changes to the fact that they did it.) --Tone 08:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Article updated, posting. --Tone 09:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- The first beam is successfully steered around the Large Hadron Collider accelerator ring at CERN, Switzerland. (ready to put this up when the formulation in the article changes to the fact that they did it.) --Tone 08:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - There will be a major announcement tomorrow morning in New York on the fate of Lehman Brothers, the largest investment firm in the country. They are expected to release a report detailing a large quarterly loss and, after the collapse of today's takeover purchase from a South Korean investment firm, may send the bank into insolvency or bankruptcy. If that happens this item should definitely be covered in the template (concious, as we all are, of the news from Fannie & Freddie that was just placed there), possibly as early as tomorrow afternoon. If this happens, it will be the largest collapse of a Wall Street bank resulting from the current subprime mortgage crisis (larger still than Bear Stearns). I will update the article tomorrow and will nominate it for ITN if this happens. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 06:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Although I have Google NEWS and see Lehman Brothers' current troubles it would be nice to have a cite to where you are getting your information. Otherwise, there is an appearance of speculation.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 03:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've been continuously updating the article and you can find references there. The financial crisis is also expanding to include Washington Mutual, whose stock lost 30 percent of its value yesterday. We may see two large national banks come down in the next few days, so I'll follow it carefully and update here accordingly. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- The Lehman article was apparently just mentioned on CNBC for some unsourced OR that was inserted earlier on the imminent sale of the company. There's a couple mentions on it here and here. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 22:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
September 8
- The 2008 legislative election. (Reuters via The New York Times)
- U.S. Tennis Open for a record-breaking fifth consecutive time. (Fox Sports)
- Chief Executive Kerry Killinger as a result of losses incurred as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis. (The New York Times)
- A China, killing at least 26 people and injuring others. (Canadian Press)
- The Herat province, Afghanistan, after a new video evidence emerged indicating 'scores of civilian deaths'. The US air raid in Afghanistan left up to 90 people dead, 'many of them women and children', the Afghan government and the UN said. However, US officials claimed earlier that 'no more than seven civilians died'. The bodies of 'at least 10 children and many more adults' appear in two videos made with cell phones in the Afghan village Azizabad after the raid. (BBC News) (AP)
- 2008 South Ossetia war:
- Russian forces from Georgia within a month has been reached. The agreement has become possible as EU will send 200 civilian monitors to the area and guarantee that Georgia signs a pledge to not use military force in Abkhazia and South Ossetia again. (Reuters) (The Globe and Mail)
- 'Senior US military knew these commandos 'were likely be used in the assault on South Ossetia'. (Financial Times)
- Three
ITN Candidates for September 8
- Note: the link to the 2008_Indian_Floods#September_flooding on ITN should be changed to 2008_Indian_floods#September_flooding to avoid a redirect. Thanks, BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 01:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Changed; thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate.
- Support. Serena Williams seems to be only updated article so it should be the bolded link. 2008 US Open should probably be linked to in the blurb as well. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 13:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. Too little information present in Serena Williams article. Expand it first. --gppande «talk» 13:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- The better link to bold would be 2008 U.S. Open (tennis), which has been updated daily over the course of the tournament. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 23:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)]
- The better link to bold would be
- Support. The information doesn't seem to be lacking now. Also, the result of the Murray-Federer match (Murray win) should be added to this, after it has finished in about 8-10 hours time. It should probably be bumped back up to the top at that point as well. Also, the 2008 US Open article has been updated. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 17:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support, and suggest the following wording:
- In the women's singlesfor the third time, regaining the number one ranking for the first time in five years.
- In the
- I think that leaves more room for an update with the men's champion when that's known (and the relevant articles are updated). I'll also note that a crop of Image:Serena Williams.jpg would be (IMO) much more interesting on the front page than a shot of the Canadian House of Commons. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate. Serena Williams and Roger Federer win the 2008 U.S. Open. - c4v3m4n 23:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Added, since there seems to be a consensus above. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Angolan legislative election, 2008. The article seems to have enough content and refs, and with all the US election news going up, people can't complain of systemic bias. :). --SpencerT♦C 23:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Support. What do you propose the hook should be? Also, why aren't the election figures in the table yet? Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 04:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Pls fill out the results table first. --76.64.76.141 (talk) 17:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Official results won't be released for another 5 days, though there are preliminary results. I'll see if I can make this update to the article later. SpencerT♦C 00:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Pls fill out the results table first. --76.64.76.141 (talk) 17:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
September 7
- .
- World Number 1 ranking for the first time in five years. (The New York Times)
- Hurricane Ike damages 80 percent of homes in the Turks and Caicos Islands. (The Australian)
- Two suicide bombers strike in the police headquarters in Kandahar, Afghanistan killing six officers and wounding several more. (AP via International Herald Tribune)
- mortgage financing companies Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae into conservatorship. The Federal Housing Finance Agency will manage the companies on a temporary basis. (Reuters)
- Canadian Prime Minister an early election scheduled for October 14. (BBC News)
- 2009 elections. (ARD German)
- Voters in Democratic Alliance remains the largest party in the legislature. (Xinhua) (Bloomberg)
- China following flooding. (AP via Charlotte Observer)[permanent dead link]
- Vineet Raj Srivastava, The top Developer of HP India died
ITN Candidates for September 7
- Is there an article for the floods? SpencerT♦C 16:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Again the floods? The section in the article is expanded, this is ok. --Tone 16:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I had made the word bold in news line above but somehow it was reduced to normal text. The article is same 2008 Indian floods. Yes, again floods, this year India is dealing floods in one state after another. Even if Bihar flood waters have not receaded Assam is battering with floods now. So there is a need for the news should go to ITN. It's just like Americas see huricanes one after another. I have added a new section in the main article. Please post it to ITN. --gppande «talk» 19:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Good. Propose a headline. --Tone 19:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- ]
- Good. Propose a headline. --Tone 19:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I had made the word bold in news line above but somehow it was reduced to normal text. The article is same 2008 Indian floods. Yes, again floods, this year India is dealing floods in one state after another. Even if Bihar flood waters have not receaded Assam is battering with floods now. So there is a need for the news should go to ITN. It's just like Americas see huricanes one after another. I have added a new section in the main article. Please post it to ITN. --gppande «talk» 19:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Again the floods? The section in the article is expanded, this is ok. --Tone 16:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Is there an article for the floods? SpencerT♦C 16:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please post: The blurb has been suggested above and news qualifies to ITN. --gppande «talk» 10:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Note: I am making this a color box to direct the admin attention. The box can be removed once the news is posted.--gppande «talk» 15:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Done. --Tone 15:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't usually edit politics, but doesn't saying someone should be arrested give Wikipedia a liability problem? 2008 Indian floods says "Nilendu Sanyal should have been booked under law for his past misdeeds ... " Art LaPella (talk) 22:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, this part is bad. Someone please edit this (or add ref). --Tone 08:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't usually edit politics, but doesn't saying someone should be arrested give Wikipedia a liability problem? 2008 Indian floods says "Nilendu Sanyal should have been booked under law for his past misdeeds ... " Art LaPella (talk) 22:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom Hurricane Ike. SpencerT♦C 16:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'd put it on hold until something significant happens (so that there is a decent headline). Bad luck with the huricanes this year... (Anyone feels we are getting weather-centric recently? - check also the post above) --Tone 16:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- As well, this could be combined with the Hannah blurb for now. Any suggestions for formulation? --Tone 19:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hanna and Ike cause at least 584 deaths in Haiti, the United States, and the Dominican Republic. SpencerT♦C 00:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)]
- As well, this could be combined with the Hannah blurb for now. Any suggestions for formulation? --Tone 19:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'd put it on hold until something significant happens (so that there is a decent headline). Bad luck with the huricanes this year... (Anyone feels we are getting weather-centric recently? - check also the post above) --Tone 16:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac
- Nom Fannie and Frankie going into conservatorship. Lead should mention that these two hold over 50% of all US mortgages, which gives the perspective of the magnitude of this action. __talk) 17:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)]
- This news I think could need a separate article. And conservatorship could also use some cleanup. SpencerT♦C 18:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'd suggest the following wording. "The United States Treasury Department seizes control of mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." Benjaminx (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Support. I would say "takes control" instead of "seizes control." -- Mwalcoff (talk) 18:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Does it have international impact? Probably yes, considering the finance crisis. Conditional support, in order not to have only weather-related catastrophes on ITN. --Tone 19:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think "seizes" is quite appropriate. Also, I would very much like to have some flesh for the many users who haven't heard about these institutions and don't immediately grasp the magnitude of this. There are several factoids in this to conseptualize this, i.e.
- "one of the most sweeping government interventions in private financial markets in decades" according to the Washington Post[6]
- The fact I mentioned in nominating this story about these two companies holding over 50% of all US home mortgages.
- 70-80% of new mortgages are held by F&F
- They guarantee for more than $5.3 trillion.
- "one of the most sweeping government interventions in private financial markets in decades" according to the
- __talk) 20:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Support. I would say "takes control" instead of "seizes control." -- Mwalcoff (talk) 18:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that this should become an article on its own. __talk) 20:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)]
- -The U.S. Treasury department did not seize control.
Yes it has tremendous international impact. As much as several trillion of dollars of Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) , guaranteed by the two, and in addition, debt issued directly by the two entities in question are held by international financial entities, one very significant holder being the central bank of China, for which I don't have citations, but have read about. At the moment the article Federal Housing Finance Agency, gives a good brief on the conservatorship intents and actions, with citations, and the Fannie Mae#Conservatorship section and citations give fair background, mostly provided by me.
Some details:- -The director of the government sponsored entities into a conservatorship, with the FHFA as the conservator, pursuant to the authority created in the Federal Housing Finance Regulatory Reform Act of 2008, which is a sub-part of the larger Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, Public Law 110-289, signed into law July 30, 2008. The U.S. Treasury is only a financing body for the in-conservatorship enties.
In that conservatorship, the CEOs were dismissed, board and management authority is assumed by the conservator; the former CEOs agreed to stay on in a consultative capacity, and the rest of managment team is intended to be retained for the near term; dividends were suspended on common stock and preferred stock, normally payments amounting to US$ two billion annually; financing facilities were made available at the Treasury department; all political activity is ceased, especially lobbying activities, and capital requirements relating to MBEs are also suspended, The colloquial "seize" and "control" is not specific enough for the very particular actions that have taken place. - A quote from the Washington Post:
- The action is "one of the most sweeping government interventions in private financial markets in decades".
Source: Goldfarb, Zachary A. (2008-09-07). "Treasury to Rescue Fannie and Freddie: Regulators Seek to Keep Firms' Troubles From Setting Off Wave of Bank Failures". )
- The action is "one of the most sweeping government interventions in private financial markets in decades".
- -The director of the
- -- Yellowdesk (talk) 20:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Couldn't somebody start the article talk) 22:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I created a stub for this article, using the suggested article title: Federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. After doing so, I suspect a more correct title would have been "U.S. Government takeover..." -- but any change will have to be handled later on after more editors are working on the article. N2e (talk) 00:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Couldn't somebody start the article
- I'd suggest the following wording. "The
- I don't think anyone is going to disagree with this item, we just need to get the wording and article right. Nil Einne (talk) 04:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- This is similar to another ITN item that was posted in August on the failure of IndyMac Bank. By the old wording, this one would look something like this: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are placed into conservatorship by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. It is one of the largest banking failures in United States history. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)]
- - I'll attempt phrasing based on this example. It's not a failure though, but a regulatory action to prevent failure. - Yellowdesk (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- The New York Times this morning called it "one of the most expensive financial bailouts in history," so maybe you want to go with that phrasing. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 15:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- -I'm not sure which "that" you intend. This distinguishing charateristic is that this is NOT receivership, and there is no liquidation, and although stockholders will lose a lot of money, they're not completely out of the picture. I'll try a draft here:
How about:
- U.S. Treasuryimmediately invests US$ 1 billion dollars in each, with plans for additional capital infusions. It is already one of the largest banking interventions in United States history.
- -- Yellowdesk (talk) 17:09, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Too long, and it introduces several terms which we cannot assume many readers are familiar with. It doesn't convey the gravity to the casual reader. __talk) 17:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I don't intend to stand in the way. My formulation by being more general encompasses the idea of bailout. You could take out the 1 billion sentence to shorten it. I'll be off line for two hours. Do what you can without me. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 17:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Just a note to say per Nil Einne, support addition. Global story. 86.44.22.206 (talk) 17:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Too long, and it introduces several terms which we cannot assume many readers are familiar with. It doesn't convey the gravity to the casual reader. __
- - I'll attempt phrasing based on this example. It's not a failure though, but a regulatory action to prevent failure. - Yellowdesk (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- This is similar to another ITN item that was posted in August on the failure of
- OK, how about we go with Yellowdesk's revision minus the second sentence: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are placed into conservatorship by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. It is one of the largest banking interventions in United States history.
- This should go up today (ASAP really) since it's already big news and we're trailing on this one. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 19:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, this is dragging out. __talk) 19:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Agreed, this is dragging out. __
- OK with me. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 21:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- This looks good, and there appears to be consensus on it. It's a bit late, but better late than never. I'll put it up. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Stephen (talk · contribs) removed the sentence "It is one of the largest banking failures in United States history" for being "editorial". I understand that concern, but I think that without that sentence, the item lacks context and will be incomprehensible to many readers, especially outside the United States. Does anyone have further suggestions for better wording, to indicate the magnitude of this event? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oops — I should have read more carefully, and seen the correction about "banking interventions" as opposed to "banking failures". I'll put that wording up for now, but am happy to have a better context-providing wording provided later.. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Canadian election call. Don't know how to word the blurb right. Big news from a (mostly) English-speaking country with lots of Wikipedia users. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 21:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Since when have we posted the calling of an election? We usually only post the result. talk) 00:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I think one of the big, English-speaking Westminster countries (UK, Can., Aus.) merits a blurb for the beginning and end of the election. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Does that mean we should have stuff on China and India then? Each probably has more competent English speakers then Australia, Canada or possibly the UK (definitely for India, not sure about China). I personally see absolutely no reason for this, a lot of people feel we already have to much election stuff on ITN expanding our coverage to include news of an impending election just makes it worse for no good reason. If there were something unusual about it then maybe but according to the article it's not. Edit: According to this List of countries by English-speaking population we should be putting Germany and the Phillipines and Nigeria before Canada and Australia. The list is pretty crap since the definitions vary (for example, China's 2 million which only counts HK is absurdly low and is repeated twice) but is an interesting read. Okay you may argue there is a decent German wiki so there is less reason for German but the others there's that's not the case. Even if you want to start getting into number of English speaking internet users, which you didn't mention before, India surely must at least come close to Australia, probably Nigeria too Nil Einne (talk) 04:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- - The difference is that the calling of an election is an event in those countries. It's a non-event in countries with a lockstep election calendar. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 14:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think one of the big, English-speaking Westminster countries (UK, Can., Aus.) merits a blurb for the beginning and end of the election. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
September 6
- 2008 Pacific hurricane season: Tropical Storm Lowell forms off the coast of Mexico. (AP via Houston Chronicle)
- Darren Aronofsky's The Wrestler wins the Golden Lion for best film at the Venice Film Festival. (AP via Google News)
- Indo-US nuclear deal. (CNN-IBN)
- 2008 Cairo landslide: At least 18 people are killed and 22 injured when dozens of homes in northern Cairo collapse after being hit by a massive rockslide. (AFP via Google News)
- The 2008 Summer Paralympic Games begin in Beijing. (BBC News)
- 2008 Atlantic hurricane season
- Tropical Storm Hanna makes landfall in the United States on the border between North Carolina and South Carolina. (AFP via the Melbourne Age)
- Turks and Caicos. (AP via Google News)[dead link]
- Pakistan
- The Pakistan Peoples Party as the next President of Pakistan. (The New York Times)
- A car bomb in Peshawar in northwest Pakistan kills at least thirty people. (BBC News)
- The
ITN Candidates for September 6
- Asif Ali Zardari, widower of two-term former Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto, is elected as President of Pakistan. who .I really feel that, though I know I'm probably breaking all the ITN rules by stating my support without reading the rules, that the election of the widow of Benazir Bhutto is a great choice for ITN. 129.62.103.82 (talk) 00:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nom: Komlan Mally resigning. SpencerT♦C 22:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- I am putting Zardari up. --Tone 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominating news of 45 nation NSG clearing the India US nuke deal. The news is prominent as NSG approved the deal after 3 days of hectic negotiations and ending India's 34 years of nuclear apartheid. --gppande «talk» 14:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- Tomislav Nikolicresigns.
- From what? --Tone 18:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- The 2008 Summer Paralympics opens in Beijing, China. Yorkshiresky (talk) 16:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good. My support. --Tone 18:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
September 5
- Five hundred people have died in the Tropical Storm Hanna. (Reuters via News Limited)
- According to several news reports, the US government plans to take control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in a takeover plan. (MSNBC)
- Estimates of sea-level rise due to global warming are scaled back. (Reuters)
- Condoleezza Rice becomes the first United States Secretary of State to visit Libya since 1953. (AP via the New York Daily News)
- Pakistan reinstates Supreme Court judges ousted by former President Pervez Musharraf. (CNN)
- The August 2008. (BBC News)
- European City of Culture celebrations. (BBC News)
- The European Union's Rosetta spacecraft performs a flyby of the asteroid 2867 Šteins. (AFP)
- Australia:
- Quentin Bryce is sworn in as the first female Governor-General of Australia. (AAP via The Melbourne Age)
- Premier of New South Wales following a loss of support in the Australian Labor Party caucus, and is replaced by Nathan Rees. (Sydney Morning Herald)
ITN Candidates for September 5
- Asteroid news is good and has a nice blurb too - Add it to ITN. --gppande «talk» 08:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have added more information to it as I could get from latest news articles. I think this is good to go. --gppande «talk» 08:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- What is actually notable about the flyby...is it any different than other flybys? 76.205.76.204 (talk) 11:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- Steins is Rosetta's first scientific target & ultimate destination is the comet 67/P Churyumov-Gerasimenko in 2014. --gppande «talk» 11:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- I would prefer putting this on when it reaches its target. Though it is interesting, I don't find anything particularly special about this flyby. What about the two stories proposed one day ago? --Tone 13:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- Steins is Rosetta's first scientific target & ultimate destination is the comet 67/P Churyumov-Gerasimenko in 2014. --gppande «talk» 11:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- What is actually notable about the flyby...is it any different than other flybys? 76.205.76.204 (talk) 11:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have added more information to it as I could get from latest news articles. I think this is good to go. --gppande «talk» 08:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
September 4
- Senator John McCain officially accepts the nomination of the Republican Party in the 2008 United States presidential election. (The New York Times)
- Former lobbyist Jack Abramoff is sentenced to four years in prison for his role in the Jack Abramoff scandals. (CBS)
- The death toll from Tropical Storm Hanna rises to 61. (CNN)
- The ]
- Trinamul Congress. (The Hindu)
- Physicists at the
ITN Candidates for September 4
A post about the new particle wuld be a nice refreshment to the ITN section, too bad the article is only a tiny stub. As well, I've read some news about rapid melting of the ice and Arctic becoming an island, do we have any update on that? --Tone 20:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- This one. --Tone 20:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Article seems good, let's do it. m 21:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Article seems good, let's do it.
September 3
- The Senator John McCain as its candidate in the 2008 United States presidential election. (The New York Times)
- 2008 Atlantic hurricane season:
- hurricane of the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, later strengthening to Category 3. (USA Today) (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Flooding from ]
- raid in the Angoor Ada region of Waziristan. Twenty civilians die. (ABC News)
- Earlier 'up to 90' people were killed during US HRW says civilians deaths from international air strikes nearly tripled between 2006 and 2007. (BBC News)
- Earlier 'up to 90' people were killed during US
- GMAC's Residential Capital mortgage provider announces plans to dramatically reduce the size of its business resulting in the loss of 5,000 jobs. (Minneapolis-St Paul Star-Tribune)
- Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center in retaliation for the United States failing to remove it from a list of states that sponsor terrorism. (CNN)
- The United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit finds "that a reliance on information in Wikipedia is insufficient grounds for a ruling" in an immigration case. (Ars Technica)
- Yousaf Raza Gilani survives an assassination attempt. (BBC News)
- The Provisional IRA Army Council still exists. (The Guardian)
ITN Candidates for September 3
I nominate Hurricane Hanna (2008), but I suppose people will complain of hurricane bias. SpencerT♦C 01:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Gustav is no longer newsworthy. Let's switch to Hanna.
- U.S. South Atlantic coast after causing at least 25 deaths in Haiti. --199.71.174.100 (talk)]
00:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)--04:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC) - Support as per the above IP. naerii 07:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posting, replacing Gustav. Please, upload the picture. --Tone 07:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Nominate:
]- Picture uploaded: Image:464px-Hanna 2008-09-01 over Bahamas.jpg. naerii 11:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support The article is fairly substantial and the material is noteworthy.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 03:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good. Propose a good headline. --Tone 07:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- attack Taliban fighters for the first time on Pakistani territory. --gppande «talk» 08:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)]
- War on Terrorism.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Posting. --Tone 17:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article now says that 3 helicopters (not helicopter gunships) and 2 jets were involved in the operation. There seems to be disagreement among the sources over this (what I would call minor) point, but perhaps we should clear it up.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 23:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)]
September 2
- New study shows that children of older fathers are at higher risk of psychological conditions such as autism and schizophrenia. (Reuters)
- A gunman goes on a shooting spree that leaves 6 people, including a police deputy, dead, and four injured, in Alger, Washington, United States.(CBS News)
- The United States Environmental Protection Agency vetoes plans by the Army Corps of Engineers to build the world's largest water pump on the Mississippi River Delta raising concerns about the impact on wetlands. (AP via Minneapolis StarTribune)[permanent dead link]
- 2008 Atlantic hurricane season:
- Hurricane Gustav weakens to a tropical depression. (Sydney Morning Herald)
- government bailouts of companies. (Bloomberg)
- 2008 Thai political crisis:
- Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej declares a state of emergency in Bangkok after clashes between groups of pro- and anti-government protesters resulted in one death and 43 injuries. (BBC News)
- Anupong Paochinda, the Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Thai Army, states that the Army "will not use force" in enforcing the state of emergency. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- A memorial service is held for the 229 victims of Swissair Flight 111, with some present complaining about a perceived lack of action by the authorities to prevent future disasters. (Canadian Press)[permanent dead link] (Wikinews)
ITN Candidates for September 2
- Thai Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej declares a state of emergency in Bangkok after clashes between pro- and anti-government protesters result in one death and 43 injuries. (self-nom, original blurb by User:Capitalistroadster --Paul_012 (talk) 19:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Article has been cleaned up immensely in the last day or so. Random89 22:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Looks nice, though an image would be good if we can find one. SpencerT♦C 22:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 01:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think it's better to bold "clashes" and link 2008 Thai political crisis from there, rather than "state of emergency", which should link to state of emergency instead. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 00:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 01:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Looks nice, though an image would be good if we can find one. SpencerT♦C 22:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate. Web browser Google Chrome is released for Microsoft Windows. Benjaminx (talk) 22:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
September 1
- U.S. Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's 17-year-old daughter Bristol is revealed to be five months pregnant. (BBC) (Telegraph.co.uk) (AP) (Al Jazeera) (Wall Street Journal)
- The
- An
- 2008 Atlantic hurricane season:
- Tropical Storm Hanna becomes Turks and Caicos. (MSNBC)
- ]
- Hurricane Gustav weakens to a tropical storm in central Louisiana after being responsible for 7 deaths in the United States and more than 90 in the Caribbean. (UPI)
- Tropical Storm Hanna becomes
- 2008 South Ossetia war:
- The European Union suspends talks on a new partnership agreement with Moscow until Russian troops have withdrawn from Georgia. (BBC)
- Russia accuses the West of sending weapons to Georgia along with aid, while the European Union considers possible sanctions against Russia. (CNN)
- leadership election. (BBC)
- A 2008 Orissa violence. (Times of India)
- Robert French is sworn in as the 12th Chief Justice of Australia. (ABC (Australia))
- Robinho for a British Record Fee of £32.5million. The takeover and the Robinho deal as a whole sent shockwaves throughout the Sporting world. (Independent)
ITN Candidates for September 1
- Nominating Orissa violence. Blurb:- violence in Orissa,India between Hindus and Christians. --gppande «talk» 15:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)]
- leadership election for the Liberal Democratic Party. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 15:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Or Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda resigns less than a year after taking office. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 15:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)]
- I've fixed the red links and also added a redirect for your title :-P However IMHO it's not that important to emphasise the election. I would say a bigger issue is that Japan/the LDP appears to be in the midst of a leadership crisis with 2 PMs resign abruptly after short times in office. So maybe
- Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda resigns less than a year after taking office following Shinzo Abe's abrupt resignation.
- Nil Einne (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've fixed the red links and also added a redirect for your title :-P However IMHO it's not that important to emphasise the election. I would say a bigger issue is that Japan/the LDP appears to be in the midst of a leadership crisis with 2 PMs resign abruptly after short times in office. So maybe
- Or
- Posting. Please, upload the photo. --Tone 17:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Suggest reword to "Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda resigns, less than a year after succeeding prime minister Shinzo Abe" the existing wording does not make it clear that Abe was the previous PM, or that his resignation was a year ago, not a recent event. Random89 20:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)]
- Suggest removal of any mention of Shinzo Abe. Japanese PMs have been abruptly leaving office after a year or two for the past decade or so. It's the norm now. Mentioning just the previous one isn't really meaningful. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 20:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Don't think that's accurate. Koizumi was there for over 5 years. Mori was only there for only a year it's true but he took over from someone who suffered a stroke about 3 months before an expected general election. It's hardly uncommon that a person acts as a temporary leader in such situations. Keizō Obuchi suffered a stroke so he's irrelevant. Ryūtarō Hashimoto was there for nearly two and a half years. Not a long time, but not extremely short either. Nil Einne (talk) 06:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, before Hashimoto, Sōsuke Uno, Toshiki Kaifu, Kiichi Miyazawa, Morihiro Hosokawa, Tsutomu Hata and Tomiichi Murayama all quit after less than two years in office. Hashimoto was there for two and a half years, but he indeed resigned. I wouldn't count Obuchi, either, but Mori after him wasn't a caretaker PM, and he indeed resigned, too. I consider Koizumi an anomaly, after which Abe and Fukuda kept the trend going again. As you can see, the trend actually started more than a decade ago. I under-estimated the length of time. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 23:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Don't think that's accurate. Koizumi was there for over 5 years. Mori was only there for only a year it's true but he took over from someone who suffered a stroke about 3 months before an expected general election. It's hardly uncommon that a person acts as a temporary leader in such situations. Keizō Obuchi suffered a stroke so he's irrelevant. Ryūtarō Hashimoto was there for nearly two and a half years. Not a long time, but not extremely short either. Nil Einne (talk) 06:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Suggest removal of any mention of Shinzo Abe. Japanese PMs have been abruptly leaving office after a year or two for the past decade or so. It's the norm now. Mentioning just the previous one isn't really meaningful. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 20:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)