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September 30

Portal:Current events/2014 September 30

September 30, 2014 (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

War in Donbass
- The Ukrainian military say they have repelled a renewed assault by the pro-Russian forces on the Donetsk International Airport. The airport has been under sustained assaults for over 2 weeks despite an official ceasefire. (The Wall Street Journal)

Art and culture

Islamists. (Fox News)

Health

Ebola Virus in the United States

A case of
Dallas, Texas. (AP via The Olympian)^{[permanent dead link}
]

Law and crime

A student is shot and wounded at
Fern Creek Traditional High School in Louisville, Kentucky, U.S. A suspect, also a student at the school, has been arrested. (Yahoo News) (WDRB-TV)

A student is shot and wounded at
U.S. A student is arrested. (USA Today)

RD: Jerrie Mock

Article: Jerrie Mock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Columbus Dispatch
Credits:

Nominated by
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

talk to me 16:04, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Comment the "awards and honors" section has an orange unsourced tag. I've updated the tense in a couple of places in the article but I've run out of time to check if I got them all. Thryduulf (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose flying around the world is an arbitrary stunt. Anybody know without looking who was the first man to do so? μηδείς (talk) 18:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I think she meets DC2. I would disagree with calling it an "arbitrary stunt"; Amelia Earhart, Valentina Tereshkova, and Sally Ride were not performing "arbitrary stunts". There was a genuine belief at the time that women could not do those things. 331dot (talk) 18:24, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support but only if the article is improved with references. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to add I agree with TRM that improvement in references is needed. 331dot (talk) 19:52, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely notable enough - but as stated, references need a lot of TLC. Challenger l (talk) 00:48, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Not impressed with aviation "round the world" record claims. Those aiming for it are not required to cross the equator nor even to travel a distance equal to the full circumference of the earth. Neither Mock's article nor the reference allegedly supporting her "round the world" achievement tell us where she actually went. She obviously achieved a lot, but this is a crappily defined achievement. Can we drop that claim and just describe her as a great aviator? HiLo48 (talk) 22:41, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would completely agree if we were the ones making the claim, but that is what the sources in the article state, along with the aviation clubs mentioned in the article who accepted her accomplishments as a record. You have completely valid points- but they should be addressed to those who recognize this accomplishment as a record or achievement. As long as the relevant groups and sources recognize this as a record, we should state that they do. 331dot (talk) 23:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're advocating we post this on
WP:ATTRIBUTE then, and that requires a blurp that calls her a great aviator according to Aviatrix Weekly or Airborne Heiresses. When we can't even objectively define what she did we can't claim she qualifies under any of the criteria. We are not forced by vague sources to ignore that any more than we are forced to list the first person to ride across the us on a lawnmower as a great lawnmowerist. μηδείς (talk) 00:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Weak oppose Not all record breakers or first-time doers are necessary leaders in the field, and I don't see that here beyond the "first woman to do so" (please note: not trying to trivialize the gender aspect, I'd argue the same about the death of the first man to circumnavigate, if that were offered). Or in terms of past ITN, her act at the time would have been the ITN point, but not her passing. --MASEM (t) 00:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Quite a list of world records and honours. Neljack (talk) 07:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
article not ready - more references needed. Almost none of the awards and achievements listed have citations and the Early life section is also completely unreferenced. If the claims are verifiable (and definable, per 331dot) then I'll probably offer my weak support, but not yet. Thryduulf (talk) 07:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Masem. While gender-based records are notable for things like sporting events, gender is not particularly relevant to flying a plane (even if society supposedly deemed her unfit.) Wiley Post circumnavigated solo in 1933 (so circumnavigation was a pretty established thing when Mock did it in 1964), and Richarda Morrow-Tait did it in 1948-1949 with a navigator if we're going to look at gender. IRW0 (talk) 14:44, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- But the first is still the first? Surely, in the history of aviation as a whole, women have been hugely under-represented? We even still have a special gender-based word for them - aviatrix (which of course is now frowned upon). A bit late to nominate Morrow-Tait for RD, of course. I think we'd want to know how many women had ever circumnavigated the globe, or at least how many before 1964? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 29

Portal:Current events/2014 September 29

September 29, 2014 (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

War in Donbass
- Renewed clashes around the Donetsk International Airport between the pro-Russian rebels and Ukrainian government troops kill at least 12 people in the worst flareup of violence since the ceasefire accord earlier in September. (CBC)

International Relations

Argentina's central bank announces that it will pay the holders of its restructured debt Tuesday. Implicitly this indicates that it is ready to defy a U.S. federal court which has blocked such payments until the holders of hold-out bonds are included. (Reuters)

Politics and Elections

Ashraf Ghani is sworn in as new president of Afghanistan. (BBC)

[Closed] US judge finds Argentina in contempt of court

No consensus to post. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:43, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Argentine debt restructuring (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  US judge finds Argentina in contempt of court (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Count Iblis (talk) 02:07, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I'm not convinced this is sufficiently significant, given that it is a decision of a first-instance judge in a case where Argentina denies the jurisdiction of the court and where the decision is likely to be largely symbolic because enforcement of the judgment will probably be precluded by the sovereign immunity that attaches to most property of the Argentine Government within the jurisdiction. Neljack (talk) 03:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment what is the significance of this finding? It's not clear from the nomination that this has any kind of impact anywhere. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Seeing very little news coverage of this. Also not clear on the impact or significance. This is not a case in an international body(which might have more significance) 331dot (talk) 10:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 28

Portal:Current events/2014 September 28

September 28, 2014 (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Islamic State. (Al Jazeera)

War in North-West Pakistan
:
At least 21 militants are killed in airstrikes and a gunfight in Pakistan's northwestern tribal areas. (Sky News)
A
Burma says he is joining forces with the Bodu Bala Sena group in Sri Lanka in order to combat a "serious threat from jihadist groups". (Al Jazeera)

Disasters and accidents

2014 Mount Ontake eruption:
- Dozens of people are rescued from Japan's Mount Ontake following a volcanic eruption, with at least 30 feared dead. This is the first deadly eruption in Japan since 1991. (BBC)
Three people are killed in a
monster truck accident in Haaksbergen in the Netherlands. (Sky News)

Politics and elections

2014 Hong Kong protests:
- Benny Tai announces that Occupy Central is launched as Hong Kong's government headquarters is being occupied by thousands of protesters. (The Guardian)
- Hong Kong police resort to tear gas to disperse protesters but thousands remain. (Reuters UK)
A student protester hurls the book
Formosa Betrayed at President Ma Ying-jeou of Taiwan and hits the president; the Presidential Office condemns the act of violence. (AFP via Rappler)(Focus Taiwan)

Portuguese Socialist Party prime ministerial primary against the incumbent António José Seguro
.

Sports

Dennis Kimetto sets a new world record at the Berlin Marathon. (Daily Mail)

The European team wins the Ryder Cup, for the third straight time. (Associated Press)
In the
Dover International Speedway while Kurt Busch, A. J. Allmendinger, Greg Biffle and Aric Almirola are eliminated from championship contention. (ESPN)

[Posted] Occupy Central with Love and Peace

Article: Occupy Central with Love and Peace (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Hong Kong police resorts to tear gas to disperse Occupy Central protesters occupying government headquarters, but thousands remain. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  Benny Tai announces that Occupy Central is launched as Hong Kong's government headquarters is being occupied by thousands of protesters.
News source(s): (The Guardian), (Reuters UK)
Credits:

Nominated by Neelix (talk · give credit)
Updated by Mangoshake (talk · give credit)

Article updated

--Neelix (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and I'm guessing this will be a
WP:SNOW close. Protests are rarely posted, and this one doesn't even reach the national level, just one protest in Hong Kong that has not spread to mainland China. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 21:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support and suggest alternative article and blurb: Police
disperse pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong with tear gas. Now headline of CNN, Al Jazeera, Bloomberg and more. This isn't going to be a snow close anymore. The fact that it hasn't spread to Mainland China is due to active media suppression by China (one result of which was that Instagram has been banned in China since today). Der yck C. 21:35, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

The alternative article and blurb you propose look good to me. Neelix (talk) 21:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

comment This is far smaller than the People's Climate March which wasn't posted .--Johnsemlak (talk) 22:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure whether that's true or not, but this is certain getting more media attention. Formerip (talk) 23:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment OCLP has made onto zhwp's ITN. 野狼院ひさし _{Hisashi Yarouin} 00:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New York Times, The Globe and Mail, BBC, ABC, Wall Street Journal, CBC, Forbes, Fox, and plenty more. This thing is in the news in nearly all the main places except Wikipedia. Neelix (talk) 02:47, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant article is now called 2014 Hong Kong protests. Neelix (talk) 02:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This looks like it's moved beyond protests. 04:42, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Mild support this is now top news story on the BBC News homepage and is having an impact on HK's business operations. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think there may be a good story here, but I don't think either the main or the alternative blurb does a good job of communicating it. Right now, neither blurb mentions 1) how many protesters or 2) why they are protesting. They also don't do a good job including conflicts with police, which seems to be an important part of the news coverage. Dragons flight (talk) 08:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Nothing really groundbreaking has happened so far. The "pro-democracy" camp are often protesting and they often use these kinds of disruptive tactics. --Tocino 08:20, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support story and
disperse pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong with tear gas."). The protests in Hong Kong are presently in the front page of the BBC website and account for 2 of the top 10 most read articles on that site. Regardless of how common such protests are, this one is getting vastly significantly more media coverage than others have and so it is unquestionably in the news. Thryduulf (talk) 09:13, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

I don't think it's valid to compare this to the climate change march. They haven't used tear gas there for the most part. Now, what was the last protest action that the cops used significant amount of tear gas to disperse the protesters? That's the valid comparison. Did ITN post that? –H T D 12:03, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Google suggests the three most recent examples prior to HK were in Liberia [1], Ferguson, Missouri [2] (both in August), and Sao Paulo [3] in June. As far as I can tell (and my search-fu is very weak today) the Liberian protest was not nominated and would unlikely have gained consensus because it relates to the ongoing ebola outbreak. I can't see that we posted anything to do with the Ferguson shooting (which surprises me) - it was nominated (and rejected) for ongoing twice in August, but I don't think a blurb was proposed. The Brazilian protests again don't seem to have been nominated. Protests in Thailand in December 2013 that involved tear gas were posted, but the gas was not mentioned in the blurb [4]. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I understand that the current situation may look like nothing extraordinary. But the 24-hour mark is approaching and crowds are still up and running as ever. And with international impact emerging like emergency rallies around the world planned or in progress (SCMP), there is good potential this expands to Main Page material in due time (say by the end of the week perhaps). PS It coincides National Day on Wednesday. Guess how that turns out. 野狼院ひさし _{Hisashi Yarouin} 14:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Thryduulf. Saying Hong Kong is not at the national level ignores its history and economic status. μηδείς (talk) 16:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support, ongoing, very significant event in the region, reported worldwide. I would change the blurb to something like: The Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:29, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Weak Oppose, this type of protest (which includes both peaceful elements and perhaps-over-aggressive authorative response) is too common around the world to single out one. If it becomes overly violent (hopefully not) then that might be reason, but not at this stage. --MASEM (t) 16:31, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support – This is a top news story, far more significant than any previous protests. I don't understand nonsense about "national level" and "mainland China". Hong Kong is functionally separate from the mainland, both culturally and politically. In fact, that is one of the reasons for these protests. This is a watershed moment in Hong Kong history, and perhaps in the history of the democracy movement in China itself. RGloucester — ☎ 16:33, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support – top news on all news outlets. Also important to highlight the Chinese ridiculous regime.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Newsworthy and article in good shape except the "Global responses" section (for now I guess).
(Talk) 20:46, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support, has gotten a lot of international media attention; I think not in the least because no one imagines Hong Kong as a place where this kind of protest could happen and because this has a lot of bearing on the future of the most populous nation on the planet and its region. I also feel something of a connection, as I imagine those of us not from HK who attended
Wikimania 2013, seeing places I walked or otherwise traveled through on the way to other things I went to see being the sites of all this civil unrest. Daniel Case (talk) 23:19, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
While I agree that this protest would comes as surprise to most foreigners, Hong Kong is no stranger to protests and riots as evidenced by
Hong Kong 1981 riots, and more recently, the Hong Kong 1 July marches that have taken place every single years since 1997. WinterWall (talk) 03:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

True. Being a Hongkonger, I have to say protests are extremely common in Hong Kong. But this is a serious case.--Good afternoon (talk) 12:49, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I know about the past protests. But the world is used to pro-democracy protests taking place in countries that are far less democratic than even the OCwLP people would describe Hong Kong as. And there's the implications for China as a whole. Daniel Case (talk) 14:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
HK is that place where "it's not democratic enough" but "people are somehow free to protest" that's ripe for "pro-democracy protests" (see also Venezuela, Malaysia). In places where there's supposedly "democracy" people don't have to do "pro-democracy protests" (they'd protest about something else), and there are places where protests are not even allowed at all. HK is the perfect candidate for such protests to happen, and they're doing it quite frequently. –H T D 15:05, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Hugely important event that could change the political landscape of Hong Kong forever. WinterWall (talk) 03:52, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Gained international media attention. Also, I have changed the caption to a clearer one. --Good afternoon (talk) 08:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The media is already calling these events an "umbrella revolution", [6], [7], [8]. Nsk92 (talk) 10:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This protest seems to have enough legs both literally and figuratively to have an encyclopedic value. Rhodesisland (talk) 11:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posted Smurrayinchester 15:05, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revise blurb - is "using tear gas" the best we could come up with for the blurb? I don't recall any protests in recent memory to be framed in such a way. Would it not be more informative to the reader to say what the protests are actually about? Such as "Protesters gather in Hong Kong to demonstrate against proposed electoral changes announced by the Chinese government." Also I would consider putting this story in "on-going" as it is still developing. Colipon+(Talk) 16:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(
Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:26, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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I think that the blurb by
Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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How about "electoral changes are countered by the police using tear gas." That way, we make the protests more generally, but still mention the police response (which is the main story in the West, it seems). Also, we don't need an "Ongoing" as long as there's an entry in ITN - Ongoing is for when stories are still in the news by the time they reach the bottom of the page. Smurrayinchester 20:23, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
I don't think the tear gas is the western story. The story is the protest, with the context of Tiananmen Square etc. The tear gas is just a red herring, stupid over-reaction. I prefer the Colipon blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I second TRM's preference for the "Colipon" blurb. RGloucester — ☎ 20:40, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I too support Colipon's blurb and believe it should be posted as there is consensus for it, but disagree with Ongoing. Ongoing was not made for every event that is not instantaneous, only for the most important events that consistently have new stories each day. Only Ebola and IS meet that criteria right now. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 01:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revised. I posted the Colipon blurb, as annotated by Vejvančický. Dragons flight (talk) 02:28, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] 2014 Ryder Cup

Article: 2014 Ryder Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  In golf, Europe wins the Ryder Cup. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Nominated by
talk · give credit
)

The nominated event is listed on
talk to me 18:52, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
Comment dare we get some prose in that article? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I could replace the content with IN THE HOLE!!! if you like. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 19:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks like the article now has prosein the sections describing the game. CaptRik (talk) 18:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support The article is good.
(Talk) 20:52, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 07:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Marathon World Record

Article:
marathon world record with a time of 2h 2m 57s at the Berlin Marathon (Post)
News source(s): http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/dennis-kimetto-sets-world-mark-berlin-marathon-25814155

Credits:

Nominated by ShakyIsles (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
--ShakyIsles (talk) 09:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Comment It could be OK if the marathon article contained text about the record, detailing how it was established. I wrote the blurb, feel free to change it.
(Talk) 10:00, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

There is also
Dennis Kimetto page needs some work.ShakyIsles (talk) 10:08, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Comment Some work is needed before posting but marathon world records are usually the ITN stuff. --Tone 10:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Notability doesn't really need to be established here since the Berlin marathon is ITNR. I can't see us covering the marathon and neglecting to mention the record. Justin Urquhart Stewart (talk) 17:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment target article (marathon) is a bit of a mess and covers this record in a single sentence (with redirect). Would prefer to see Kimetto's article being the target with a good update. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:02, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I've updated to reflect this. ShakyIsles (talk) 21:08, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - a new world record is notable.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support A worthy sports record and the marathon is on ITN/R. It's only been a year since the last one, but I don't think that's a big deal, especially combined with the marathon (we're getting down to physical impossibility in the near future here...) IRW0 (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tone (talk • contribs)

September 27

Portal:Current events/2014 September 27

September 27, 2014 (2014-09-27) (Saturday)

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Disasters and accidents

Japan's Mount Ontake volcano erupts causing 250 people to be stranded, injuring at least eight people and forcing aircraft to divert their routes. (Reuters)

Business and economy

After 139 years of ferry crossings between the Danish town of Esbjerg and Harwich in England, MS Sirena Seaways carries passengers on the route for the last time as DFDS closes the route due to "dwindling demand and high costs"; a freight service will still be available on the route from Esbjerg to Immingham. (BBC) (DFDS Connects)

Health

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa
:
The official death toll from the
World Health Organisation warning that the official figures "vastly underestimate the true scale of the epidemic". (The Independent)

International relations

The
LGBT rights. (Human Rights Watch)^{[permanent dead link}
]

Law and crime

Vaughan Foods beheading incident. A recent convert to Islam goes on a rampage in a grocery warehouse in Oklahoma, beheading a woman with a knife and stabbing another female colleague. (Fox News)

Politics and elections

election, but will nominate himself as leader in the subsequent leadership contest. (Sky News Australia)

President of the Spanish region of Catalonia, authorises a referendum on independence on November 9 despite the opposition of the Government of Spain. (AP)

Dozens of people are arrested as Hong Kong pro-democracy rallies continue. (CNN)

Sport

In
Australian rules football, Hawthorn Football Club defeats the Sydney Swans in the 2014 AFL Grand Final 137-74. (ABC News Australia)

RD: James Traficant

Article: James Traficant (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News International Business Times Daily Mail
Credits:

Nominated by 331dot (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see
WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Important to US politics for the bad things he did; convicted of bribery, only the second person since the end of the Civil War to be expelled from Congress. Died somewhat unexpectedly. RD is empty at the moment. --331dot (talk) 21:27, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
Oppose Not top of field (being notable for crimes is not top of field) , and while the death was somewhat unusual, we are talking a 70-some old not recovering from a bad accident, so not really a surprise. --MASEM (t) 21:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why is being notable for crimes not important to a field? Being important isn't just for good things. Richard Nixon isn't known for the good things he did. I knew this was a longshot, but I thought the discussion was worth it. 331dot (talk) 22:01, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose mediocre personality with no real shot at being "top his field", no awards, nothing. Death was unexpected, but doesn't elevate this individual to the heights of Lauren Bacall etc., regardless of the emptiness of RD. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being expelled from Congress is essentially a negative award. 331dot (talk) 22:01, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll take your word for it. Doesn't change anything about the oppose at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:12, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can oppose for any reason- but it is wrong to say "no awards, nothing". There is clearly something; people are not expelled from Congress even once every 50 years. Only twice in 150 years. 331dot (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you. But this is not really relevant to anything. So what if was expelled? What relevance does that have to being top of his field? Top of his field for being crap in his field? Brilliant. When you say "wrong to say "no awards, nothing" - can you clarify what actual awards he won? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:32, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being expelled is essentially an award; a great rarity in US politics(and I'd be willing to bet somewhat rare worldwide, at a national level) equivalent to an executive branch official being impeached and removed from office. (you can see Expulsion from the United States Congress for more information if you wish) It really doesn't bother me if you or anyone oppose this, I just felt it would be better than a blank line on the main page. I truly appreciate your consideration. 331dot (talk) 22:40, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, fair enough, I just wouldn't rank this individual along with Lauran Bacall etc. Enough from us. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:43, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose His expulsion from the US congress was a notable event, and had ITN existed back then it would've been featured. However that happened years ago. He doesn't get to "double dip" on the same notoriety twice. WinterWall (talk) 23:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support probably most well known US House member during the time of his service, except Gingrich, but not other speakers, on the news nightly, widely seen as prosecuted in order to be silenced. Adding him will not bump anyone else, and it is unquestionable he will be remembered 100 years from now by anyone interested in the politics of the era. μηδείς (talk) 01:17, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I'd be more willing to post someone known for their enormous positive contributions to the country as a member of Congress, but being the only member expelled since the Civil War is more Congress trivia. Didn't really set a key precedent for expelling members of Congress and did not substantially change the way Congress is run (if at all). Spencer^T♦C 04:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll assume you're not an American old enough to remember his term in office? He's what would be called a backbencher in the loyal opposition who spoke truth to power. He regularly brought to light issues the majority parties, both Democrat and Republican didn't want raised. The fact that you describe him as basically a criminal makes it clear you are unaware he was one of the least culpable members of congress. Look, for example,at the $100,000,000.00 worth of the senior senator from Nevada, who cannot account for any of it as private earnings. Look at what Trent Lott earned from
Bernie Ebbers, and took home as legal spoils that would have landed Tony Soprano in jail. Trafficant was an inconvenient voice. We're not supposed to be here to puppet narratives.μηδείς (talk) 04:56, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
In that case, the current article (James_Traficant#U.S._House_of_Representatives) does not do a very good job explaining his Congressional contributions. For something that I would consider an equivalent standard, see Robert_Byrd#Congressional_service, describing Byrd (who was posted on ITN). If the article is better filled out and makes a better case for his importance, I will reconsider my position. Spencer^T♦C 19:45, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, User:Spencer, but at this point it's a lost cause and I am basically coming here to recreate since I have real world deadlines. The big thing with TRafficant was he was on the news weekly for pointing out other's lies and hypocrises, a household name during his service, and while hated by the leaders of both parties, beloved of everyone else and continuously returned by his constituency. Byrd was just a corrupt ex-Klu-Klux-Klan member who graduated to the political boss of the landlocked state of West Virginia. μηδείς (talk) 23:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Not significant enough of a career to be considered "top of his field". Rhodesisland (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above. The expulsion should have been here if this existed in 2002, the death shouldn't. Busy Moose (talk) 14:23, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - per 331dot and Medeis. This RD nomination is exactly what the RD slot is for: a recent death of someone notable in the news. Trafficant's death, as befit his service in Congress and his personality, was unusual. I acknowledge the concerns of opposers but am unconvinced. This would a fine RD addition. The article appears to be in good shape and is an interesting read. Jus da fax 18:35, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose not only does the article have an orange-level tag, but in the grand scheme of things, he was a minor politician and not one whose career merits a RD posting.
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[Posted] 2014 Mount Ontake eruption

Article: 2014 Mount Ontake eruption (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  In Japan, Mount Ontake erupts, killing at least one person and seriously injuring more than 30. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  In Japan, Mount Ontake erupts, and the bodies of at least 31 hikers are found.
News source(s): Reuters
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Nominated by
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Nominator's comments: Prime Minister
talk to me 16:14, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Comment It does not look like there are wider ramifications at this point (evacuations past the mountain itself, travel disruptions, etc.) 250 people near the volcano are staying put, and the "volcanic alert level" has only been raised from 1 to 3 (on a 5-point scale.) [10] There is a good bit of worldwide coverage, but perhaps wait to see if initial media interest quickly subsides or not; I think it's borderline at this point. IRW0 (talk) 18:37, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose not significant. If we rotated blurbs (like DYK wants to do) every eight hours, then yes, but this isn't Wikinews. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now. Like the Kiluaea eruption in Hawaii (currently threatening a small neighborhood and state highway) I don't think this is significant enough yet. If that changes, I would reassess. 331dot (talk) 22:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - BBC TV reporting that the eruption was not forecast, and 30+ deaths. Mjroots (talk) 06:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support pending suitable and clear update based on the breaking information that 30 hikers have been found, most likely dead but awaiting the official Japanese medical verdict. BBC. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

looks like The Rambling Man has changed his mind from the oppose he wrote above - so ~~that~~ might want striking out?EdwardLane (talk) 15:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, why not directly message me or ping me? 18:05, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Change to Support; now starting to appear as a top story in CNN, more effects seem to be coming out. 331dot (talk) 07:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

was coming here to nominate it based on the 30 dead - pending update obviously EdwardLane (talk) 08:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Major volcanic eruptions are still relatively rare and the death toll from this seems to be > 30 (once officially confirmed). CaptRik (talk) 08:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Maybe a little expansion of the eruptions section with the current event would help. Newsworthy nonetheless.
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Support. Ditto The Rambling Man; it needs an update! Rhodesisland (talk) 10:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Definitely for ITN per coverage.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've suggested a more suitable alt-blurb, article is a little light but once the deaths of the hikers are confirmed, and the article is updated, it should be posted ASAP. According to the BBC, there are at least 45 people "missing. Highly significant natural disaster for Japan. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - pending article update. A big story in the international news right now, but the article needs fleshing out as it is too brief as of this posting. Jus da fax 19:07, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is light but I don't think that's a problem; information is sparse. BBC simply says "The hikers were not breathing and their hearts had stopped" about the apparent deaths. I assume they are dead, but an AP image shows a medical team transporting a frozen body "for urgent medical help". [11] (That article says Japanese officials can only announce deaths after a formal doctor's examination.) IRW0 (talk) 21:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
31 confirmed dead: [12]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:44, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That only says 4 confirmed dead at the moment. ("Four people were transported back down the mountain on Sunday and later confirmed dead") The other 25+ are still "not breathing with their hearts stopped." I can't find other sources confirming those deaths yet, but I assume it'll happen soon enough. For now, we could use a blurb like "In Japan, Mount Ontake erupts, and the bodies of at least 31 hikers are found." IRW0 (talk) 22:16, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest that "not breathing with their hearts stopped", when covered by volcanic ash, at the top of a mountain, is not a good prospect for most people. In fact, I think it's rather likely to mean death. Especially if they are not the four transported down. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:00, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not arguing they're not dead; I'm personally quite sure that they are in fact dead. But the RSes do not support calling them "dead" yet. All sources are very careful to frame it in "bodies found" or "apparently dead", etc. IRW0 (talk) 23:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - significant event, reported worldwide. The article as it stands now is acceptable for the main page. --
Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 05:42, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Posting altblurb. Feel free to change it. --Tone 08:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 26

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September 26, 2014 (2014-09-26) (Friday)

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Armed conflicts and attacks

The People's Republic of China says that 50 people died in recent violence in the western province of Xinjiang. (Voice of America)

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

The
2014 military intervention against ISIS. (Daily Mail) (Telegraph.uk)

The Parliament approves air strikes against ISIS in Iraq by 524 votes to 43. (BBC)

Taliban insurgency
The Taliban gains control of the Ajristan District in Afghanistan's Ghazni Province after a week of battle. (BBC)

An act of arson at an air traffic control facility in Aurora, Illinois causes close to 2000 airline flights to be grounded.(ABC News)

Business and economy

Pacific Solution:
The small Pacific state of Nauru has run out of money following a legal dispute in Australia. (ABC News Australia)

BlackBerry Limited, the Canadian corporation formerly known as Research in Motion, although continues to operate at a loss overall, posted unexpectedly good second quarter results, including the first adjusted profit for its hardware unit in five quarters. (Reuters)

Health

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa

The
Ebola virus is over 2,900. (Nigeria Punch)

Politics and elections

At least 100 pro-democracy protestors enter the main government compound in Hong Kong. (BBC)

state media photographs. (Al Jazeera)

Fatah and Hamas agree to form a unity government on the Gaza Strip. (EuroNews)

[Closed] 2014 air traffic control facility fire

Consensus against posting.
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Article:
An act of arson at an air traffic control facility in Aurora, Illinois causes close to 2000 airline flights to be grounded. (Post)
News source(s): ^[1]
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Nominated by Jax 0677 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Caused close to 2000 airline flights to be grounded and pointed to potentially significant flaws in air traffic control security --Jax 0677 (talk) 07:31, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The only reported injury was the alleged arsonist, and no planes crashed. Just at ORD/MDW, a comparable number of flights were canceled after a fire at the Chicago TRACON about 4 months ago. [13] Inconvenient for some travelers, but not newsworthy. IRW0 (talk) 11:51, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Basically no similar at the end of a day to a bad weather front shutting down a number of regional airports and messing up traffic. --MASEM (t) 14:37, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose barely significant act of vandalism results in minor disruption to a minor portion travellers. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree; it was a very large act of vandalism. It disrupted quite a few travelers. You don't have to downplay the event to argue against its posting. Abductive (reasoning) 18:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. Worldwide we have around eight to ten million air travellers per day. This is a minuscule glitch. It has no real impact, it's not in the news, it's not ITN. Move on to something else. Thanks for your advice though, always welcome. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:18, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, no lasting impact. Abductive (reasoning) 18:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, unusual and worrying but, compared to the misery imposed regularly by French and Italian
Air Traffic Control, not such a tumultuous event. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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[Closed] UNGA 69

Clearly no consensus. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: sixty-ninth session of the United Nations General Assembly (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  The 69th session of the UNGA opens with the General Debate. (Post)
Credits:

Nominated by Lihaas (talk · give credit)

--Lihaas (talk) 16:48, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose routine meetings and their openings are not normally fodder for ITN. If and when something happens to be specifically newsworthy, we can post that. --Jayron32 16:50, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the news.. (im on a public comp so the formatting aint there sorry)Lihaas (talk) 16:55, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - It is not, in fact, in the news. Proposed airstrikes on ISIS are getting more attention right now.--WaltCip (talk) 17:55, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - it is in the news. seems newsworthy.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:09, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. If something notable happens, let's post that.
Talk To Me 00:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose. Routine meeting. If this is in the news, it is buried in it. Not a story garnering a lot of interest. As others said, if something notable happens there, that's another matter. 331dot (talk) 09:12, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It definitely is in the news, buried or not: [14] It seems Mahmoud Abbas is very unhappy about Israel's negotiations with Palestine. Perhaps we could post that.
talk to me 17:54, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose nothing to see here, more bureaucrats spending their various tax payers money to discuss various items, most of which are ignored by many members of the club. Not news. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Yawn. The UN was actually established to end all wars. Epic failure.
(Talk) 10:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose per above. Fairly routine. Agree with Calidum, something unusual I'd support. Busy Moose (talk) 14:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Cambodia Australia deal

Article: Australia–Cambodia relations#2014 refugee resettlement deal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Cambodia and Australia sign a controversial refugee resettlement deal. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominated by SovanDara (talk · give credit)

SovanDara 02:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Comment: Article update could use a little more expansion to clarify what the actual deal is; article right now just says it would "allow refugees from Australia to resettle in Cambodia". Spencer^T♦C 04:09, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I might be interested if the blurb or notes associated with the nomination actually tried to explain the story. Right now, it's a no. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support- Intriguing story, article needs to be sorted out before this can run though. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 04:46, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - noteworthy story.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 25

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September 25, 2014 (2014-09-25) (Thursday)

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Syrian Civil War

Several Syrian rebel groups sign an agreement to unite in the fight against the
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and President Bashar al-Assad's forces. (CNN)

Disasters and accidents

A 6.2 magnitude earthquake strikes southern Alaska, causing minor damage and affecting the state's largest city,
Anchorage. (Alaska Dispatch News)

International relations

Barack Obama, the President of the United States, signs a memorandum expanding the Pacific Remote Islands Marine National Monument to 490,000 square miles, making it the biggest marine preserve in the world. (AP via ABC News)

Politics

Attorney General of the United States, effective from when the Senate confirms a successor. (NPR)
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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko announces a wide-ranging reform program entitled Strategy 2020 to prepare Ukraine for applying for European Union membership in 2020. (BBC)

[Ready] Shellshock software bug reveals several severe vulnerabilities

Article: Shellshock (software bug) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Undiscovered for 22 years, the Shellshock bug reveals several remote exploit vulnerabilities in software widely used on web servers; severity considered by some to be similar to Heartbleed. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  Undiscovered for 22 years, the Shellshock bug reveals several remote exploit vulnerabilities in software widely used on Internet servers.
News source(s): NIST National Vulnerability Database (first bug), New York Times, The Register, Arstechnica, iTnews, ZDNet, etc
Credits:

Nominated by ZeniffMartineau (talk · give credit)

Updated by Edprevost (talk · give credit), Drbogdan (talk · give credit) and IRW0 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I thought this might be worthwhile news, due to the bug's severity (NIST rated it 10/10 and it can affect OpenSSH, CGI in Apache, DHCP, and possibly anything which uses Bash, such as Mac OSX, some routers, etc), possibility of unauthenticated remote code execution, the 22 years it went undiscovered (meaning old and new systems affected), further bugs discovered while trying to patch it, and reports of a botnet and malware actively exploiting this bug as of the day it went public. --Zeniff (talk) 12:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support: the BBC quotes an expert as saying that Shellshock could be worse than the Heartbleed bug. It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 12:58, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Significant and newsworthy, given that it went unnoticed for 22 years and that the vulnerability is present in a wide variety of devices and machines. The blurb can be worked on, though, so that it flows better. 174.112.177.36 (talk) 14:27, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose I've seen the news of it, but while it technically might be equivalent to Heartbleed as how widely spread the affected software is, I'm also not seeing the same level of possible threat to all internet users that heartbleed could have done (eg massive password problems). --MASEM (t) 14:36, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually this bug allows full access to the remote machine which allows full reading of the machines memory. It can do everything heartbleed can do as well as allow the system to be taken over. It is worse in every way.
Chillum 16:03, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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I'm aware the effect is potentially more dangerous, but at the same time, the amount of effort to actual get the bug to work to get into that system seems much more difficult than the Heartbleed, hence that being much more a serious threat of its exploitability. --MASEM (t) 16:51, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is simply not so. Heartbleed required slow and extended memory reading, interpreting remote memory maps and all sorts of fuss. This allows you to simply run a command over many types of systems. This requires less effort to get more access. In particular the lack of need to interpret remote memory addresses makes this bug more automatable and creates a greater threat of a prolific worm. I have worked in computer security for over 15 years so I can be pretty confident in my assessment.
Chillum 17:03, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Support: The Devil is in the details here, really the only similarity the two events have is that both can be executed remotely. In a nsut shell, heartbleed allowed a malicious attacker to leverage a software feature (heartbeat) to dump portions of memory, basically being able to 'see' things that shouldn't be allowed, and yes, potentially seeing passwords. But shellshock is an attack against the program that handles pretty much every function on the device, allowing an attacker to do quite literally anything. Forget poking around dumped memory for passwords, with shellshock you literally just make yourself a new admin account. [15][16][17] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edprevost (talk • contribs) 15:55, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support This is much more serious than heartbleed. This one allows for arbitrary command(and by extension code) execution which could allow for an incredibly effective worm. Heartbleed only allowed read access. Considering this has been here for 22 years it is on of the biggest stories in computer security in decades.
Chillum 16:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Comment, I'm concerned that there is no event to the story. Abductive (reasoning) 18:31, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Also, people are doing their best, but the article is very messy and hard to understand at present. Abductive (reasoning) 18:35, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support due to severity and nature of the bug, but have concerns about article quality as well. I don't think we should compare it to Heartbleed in the blurb, though; it's significant enough to stand on its own. Bug also affects more than web servers; I suggested an altblurb to address both issues, though the bug affects more than servers so it should be improved further. (The "22 years" bit may still be too sensationalistic, as it potentially implies the bug was being actively exploited during that time, which would've been noticed.) IRW0 (talk) 19:50, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I'd echo some of the above concerns (although any paraphrasing and erroneous assumptions are entirely of my own creation). This could be like the
Millennium bug, a lot of bluster and fuss and all, without an actual derogatory outcome. In which case, the story, paraphrasing (once again) becomes "Security flaw in many OSs discovered, all fixed up now, no major trauma". Right now we have "Security flaw in many OSs discovered, something bad may happen...........". So although the numbers (in their billions) are scary and impressive, the genuine impact may be negligible. No actual story to post. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:17, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The derogatory outcome is that probably 100k+ machines (more?) have already been newly infected by botnets, starting within an hour of the embargo on the vulnerability being lifted. [18] (To the people running the botnets, this was a special, rare gift. This vulnerability affected far more "high value" targets than a typical vulnerability, e.g. Unix servers with lots of bandwidth or valuable data rather than primarily home computers, than all but a few recent things like Heartbleed.) I would agree there is not a great single story to post, but this wasn't a non-event like the
Millennium bug. ~~The article still isn't great either (I'd work on it, but I'm still busy with fallout from the actual bug, as are many people.)~~ The article is improving. IRW0 (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose. I agree with TRM's comment; if something bad actually happened, that would be worthy of posting, but I'm not convinced the possibility of something bad happening merits posting. 331dot (talk) 22:25, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support WP is the first place I'd come for a clear, objective, informative discussion of this. My sole objection might be article quality, which I will leave to the qualified to judge. μηδείς (talk) 01:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support wortwhile item, but the article is currently meant only for experts. Less jargon pls? Also, there should be a section on what was/is the current impact, who or what got exploited.
Nergaal (talk) 07:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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The jargon has been cleaned up somewhat and reported impact been summarized better. The article is orange-tagged now, but that will hopefully be resolved soon enough. ITN is pretty dated right now, so even if the article takes a bit longer to be in a good shape, it should still be worth posting. IRW0 (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support I'm not a connoisseur about this topic, but this is intriguing and seems very newsworthy in my opinion.
(Talk) 10:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose until impact is certain. Also, "The bug causes Bash to unintentionally execute commands when they are stored in environment variables in a non-standard form", but I thought that was a feature? I knew about that quirk years ago, and presumably many others did, too. So, "undiscovered" really means "undiscovered by IT agencies needing headlines."128.214.53.18 (talk) 04:50, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Having any service that executes a shell-level environment itself seems like waiting for trouble to happen, so there's a matter of bad programming by those that relied on bash for some aspects...--MASEM (t) 05:22, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The orange tag is gone, and the article is in decent shape for ITN. There's more of an impact section now, etc. Shellshock has turned into a series of bugs with patches that trickled out until just a couple days ago, so this item is still in the news despite the initial release being a week ago. (Apple just released an incomplete patch, for one. A Google News search shows tons of hits in the past 24 hours alone.) There is a good deal of botnet activity and large-scale scanning due to this bug. Given that ITN is pretty sparse, I don't think it'd hurt to post this one. IRW0 (talk) 04:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose- "Revealing vulnerabilities" is not news. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 04:32, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Holder resigns

Doesn't have a
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Article: Eric Holder (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Eric Holder (pictured) announced his resignation as the United States Attorney General. (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg and ABC News
Credits:

Nominated by George Ho (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The subject is well-known to Americans, Canadians, and Europeans.^{[citation needed]} People would expect who will be the next Attorney General. I welcome alternative blurbs because this is my first nomination. --George Ho (talk) 16:41, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose We've been through this before with cabinet-level individuals resigning. It happens often and does not represent any major shift in policy. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:46, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. (edit conflict) Thanks for the nomination, and welcome, but unless there is some unusual circumstance(such as being convicted of a crime/impeachment, corruption, etc.) I don't see a reason to post this, as cabinet officials carry out the policies of the President and serve at his pleasure, so there won't be a massive shift in policies here. I don't think any such official would be posted (such as the Home Secretary of the UK, Russian Foreign Minister, etc.). 331dot (talk) 16:49, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose agree with the above. Minor blip in US politics. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose that he would resign in the fall was announced earlier this year, he's not been asked or forced to resign for some scandal, we don't post such routine resignations for other countries. μηδείς (talk) 17:02, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, he was planning to resign at the end of the year no matter what. This was not due to some scandal of some sort. –H T D 17:12, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 24

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September 24, 2014 (2014-09-24) (Wednesday)

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Islamic State of Iraq and Syria

Hervé Gourdel being killed because of French participation in airstrikes against ISIS. (BBC)

ISIS militants blow up the Green Church in Tikrit, an important historic site in early Christianity. (The New York Times)

Disasters and accidents

At least 55 people are dead as a result of
mudslides in northeast India following days of heavy rain. (Sky News)

International relations

Japan imposes additional sanctions on Russia due to the Ukraine conflict and a visit by an aide of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin to a contested island off the coast off northern Japan. (Reuters)

Law and crime

Disappearance of Hannah Graham

A Virginia man is arrested in relation to the disappearance of Hannah Graham, a British student studying at the University of Virginia. (BBC)

Politics and elections

Venezuela's opposition parties named Jesus Torrealba, a 56-year-old journalist and teacher, to head their coalition ahead of 2015 parliamentary elections where they hope to weaken President Maduro's socialist government. (Voice of America)

Science and technology

India's Mars Orbiter Mission of ISRO successfully enters Mars orbit. (Reuters, AFP via ABC News Online)

After 32 years of service, the last operational HU-25 Falcon, the only jet to ever be a part of the US Coast Guard's air fleet, was retired in Corpus Christi, Texas. The Falcon played a significant role in search and rescue as well as counter drug missions and was a critical asset during the Gulf War. (KPTV.com)

Sports

In
Kevin Ward, Jr. during an August sprint car race. The prosecutor also reveals that Ward was under the influence of marijuana at the time of the accident. (ESPN)

[Posted] Mars Orbiter Mission

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ISRO probe Mars Orbiter Mission, India's first interplanetary craft, both enter orbit around Mars.
News source(s): spaceflightnow.com

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Nominated by Hektor (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Space probes reaching their destination are ITNR. MAVEN arrived a few days ago perhaps a combined blurb? I welcome advice on the blurb. Hektor (talk) 05:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Support combined blurb The Rambling Man (talk) 06:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Suggested a combined blurb. If it's too long, the "India's first interplanetary craft" part could be left out. Smurrayinchester 06:13, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support A combined blurb would be better, especially since this is huge for India and it's around the same time as the NASA probe. I do think it should be noted that this is India's first probe (since again, it is a momentous achievement for any nation), and I wouldn't support not having it in there.
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Support - per Kevin. Jus da fax 07:13, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment When the orange tag is gone, ready to post. --Tone 07:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:NOTROCKETSCIENCE Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per Kevin Rutherford. CaptRik (talk) 08:03, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support separate blurp Since this is India's first attempt, and a first successful one in a first try. --Samuelled (talk) 09:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support combined blurb, now that the maintainence tags are gone.128.214.53.18 (talk) 11:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posting. --Tone 12:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support separate blurp Note that these two are two separate missions. Unlike US Open or some tounament where you can combine two accomplisments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinderlander (talk • contribs) 12:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The combined blurb is fine - yes, separate missions but to "waste" another line to say "another probe entered Mars orbit" is inefficient. This helps the reader who may have heard that a probe reached Mars realize that there were actually two of them and find the right now. --MASEM (t) 20:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 23

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September 23, 2014 (2014-09-23) (Tuesday)

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Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

2014 military intervention against ISIS in Syria -- The United States and its allies commence air strikes against Islamic State in Syria with reports of at least 120 deaths. (BBC), (AFP via Yahoo! News)

Georgia denies media reports alleging that the country has offered hosting of a training center for anti-Islamic State Syrian rebel fighters and states that its involvement in the crisis will be limited to "humanitarian missions". (Civil Georgia)

The al-Nusra Front claims that its leader Abu Yousef al-Turki was killed in the air strikes. (CNN)

War in North-West Pakistan

Three people are killed in a bombing in Peshawar. (Pakistan Tribune)

Arab–Israeli conflict
Israel shoots down a Syrian Air Force Sukhoi Su-24 that had infiltrated its air space. (AP)

While trying to arrest two
Israeli teenagers in June, a shootout resulted in the deaths of the two suspects. (AP via Fox News)

Health

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa

The
World Health Organisation and the Government of Liberia introduce a controversial program to move infected people out of their homes and into de facto shelters. (Washington Post)

International relations

President of Russia Vladimir Putin warns in a letter to his Ukrainian counterpart Petro Poroshenko that Moscow will restrict Ukraine's access to Russian markets if Kiev implements any part of a trade agreement with the European Union. (Reuters)

Video Games

FIFA 15 on Microsoft Windows, Nintendo 3DS, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, Wii, Xbox 360 and Xbox One,

US conducts air strikes against ISIL targets in Syria

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ISIL targets in Syria (Post)
News source(s): CNN

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Count Iblis (talk) 01:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Major world news, may escalate further.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:00, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment These airstrikes need their own article, no?
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Oppose for now Already ongoing, does not represent enough of a change in the situation to demand a blurb, yet. Willing to sit this one out, and see what develops, but this is already linked. --Jayron32 03:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - The USA is now bombing Syria. That's big news in my book, and for a lot of people worldwide as well. Jus da fax 03:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Major development. Escalation into a new country by USA, not seen since the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Top of the news. Abductive (reasoning) 04:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As Jayron has noted, this is already ongoing. Stated as 'Escalation into a new country' or 'The USA is now bombing Syria', this sounds like big news, but the border between Iraq and Syria does not currently exist for all practical purposes and in practice this is the USA bombing the ISIL caliphate, just as they have been for weeks now. GoldenRing (talk) 05:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - note that back in August, at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/August 2014#U.S. aerial support against ISIS, we never posted a blurb on the US's aerial bombing against ISIS, despite it being a major story in itself. It went straight to ongoing. Ongoing just tells me something is happening, but it doesn't tell me what exactly is going on. Perhaps now would be a good time for a blurb. starship.paint ~ regal 05:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose adequate coverage in Ongoing. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as covered by Ongoing.128.214.53.18 (talk) 08:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose; if this was the start of US action against ISIS, that might warrant a blurb, but the US has been bombing them for a little while, just not in Syria(and as GoldenRing said the border is pretty much worthless right now). 331dot (talk) 09:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per 331dot. It's not a news that the United States were already involved there; it just supplements the development of the whole story. The purpose of the sticky in the bottom of the box is to cover such news.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The sticky covers it. The BBC article on the same subject notes that the US aim is to ramp up and down the airstrikes based upon developments on the ground, so Ongoing is perfect for this. CaptRik (talk) 11:50, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Opppose This isn't a big enough development to swap out the ISIL "ongoing" for a blurb. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:00, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose They have been conducting those for a while now. Anyway, as said by others, it seems better for Ongoing
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All these identical arguments are all weak as pisswater. Bombing a sovereign nation (Syria) without permission for the first time? Putting together a new coalition? Top of the news worldwide for days? Means nothing according to these users who think that because ISIS operates in Iraq and is getting bombed there, being bombed in Syria is not ITN-worthy. Abductive (reasoning) 01:55, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Except the "pisswatter" argument being made is that Syria is no longer effectively sovereign over that territory. It would be rather like violence in Israel spilling over into the West Bank; would you be here arguing for a new blurb because it's now in a new country? GoldenRing (talk) 04:12, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If Iran and Saudi Arabia were on the same side as Israel, you don't think that would be ITN? Abductive (reasoning) 04:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes, except it's already there, in ongoing... GoldenRing (talk) 04:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, turns out "Bombing a sovereign nation (Syria) without permission" is a pisswater erroneous statement. You don't get "permission" to bomb a country. What the US did do was inform Syria that this was going to take place. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:23, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
One certainly can get permission. The US is bombing Yemen and Iraq with permission. Abductive (reasoning) 17:50, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so. And my apology for the error. However, it is true to say that the US told Syria, and Syria didn't say no. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:27, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support – This is a major milestone in the US attacks against ISIL because it's now picking a whole new country to bomb; the event needs an article, though. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Yes, it's in ongoing, but this is a major development. The media are treating it as an attack on a new country, even if it's still within ISIS-controlled territory. IRW0 (talk) 13:04, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support – major milestone.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - just another turn in the conflict, adequately covered by ongoing Legaleagle86 (talk) 23:36, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support — This, along with the UN resolution, is the No. 1 story in the world today. Sca (talk) 23:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. Apparently it's fine to leave number one stories in "Ongoing" just because they are ongoing, without any further explanation of what exactly is in the news. Furthermore,
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant#September 2014 the appropriate section. starship.paint ~ regal 00:08, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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I agree. If we didn't have "Ongoing", we'd probably have had a couple informative blurbs over the past couple weeks regarding the Iraq/Syria situation. I'm not against "Ongoing" itself, but it shouldn't be used to suppress useful blurbs simply because a topic already has a vague link. IRW0 (talk) 12:20, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment But the US isn't alone, is it? --Երևանցի ^talk 22:25, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Jadavpur University protests

Article: 2014 Jadavpur University protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  2014 Jadavpur University protests is an ongoing series of protests by the students of Jadavpur University, Kolkata, India (Post)
News source(s): 1, 2, 3, 4
Credits:

Nominated by Titodutta (talk · give credit)

Updated by Dwaipayanc (talk · give credit) and ArkaBlue (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: IPs are making some trouble. I have added few tags, inclduing the "citation needed" recently. We can fix those. --Tito☸Dutta 00:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Question: What makes these protests unusual, newsworthy, interesting, or otherwise standout as something other than garden-variety university protests? Your proposed blurb basically says that the protests exists. It doesn't tell us why we should care. Why should we? Before I can decide to support or oppose this, help me understand why these protests stand out as particularly worthy of note?--Jayron32 00:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Blurb 1: a police attack on students in University campus sparked nation-wide outrage in India.

Actually a news article reports, many international universities are going to hold protests. --Tito☸Dutta 01:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What started as a garden variety student protest grew to a citi-wide, then state-wide proportion, with significant nation-wide interest. This university is one of the premiere universities in the country, and, like any other universities in the world, has had its share of student agitations in the past. However, direct administration of the police and commando forces by the state government, political ramifications in the state level, moral support from students of other universities/institutes, spontaneous support from the urban citizens of India have set it apart. Also, this is likely to be the first major student protest in India that is using social media at the level the world has witnessed in other countries (Egypt, for example) in recent years. --Dwaipayan (talk) 01:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can pretty much vouch for Dwaipayan's last statement. As a student of Jadavpur University and being a part of the movement, I have seen for myself how far social media has taken this. There has been, in fact, 'unofficial' state response on social media. I hope to introduce the entire subsection with pictures on this point. The students' wing of the state government has held a counter-demonstration, all of which will be updated. The movement is also very likely to be the largest collective student movement independent India has seen in terms of sheer number. I apologize in advance for any stylistic errors I have made. I'm very new here and intended only to represent the protest wiki page impartially as far as possible. The introductory paragraphs I reworked with citations. If I may propose a Blurb: International solidarity with the 2014 Jadavpur University protests sees protest demonstration planned in New York.--Arkaprabha (talk) 08:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the neutrality tag needs to be addressed before this nomination can be considered. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If I can rework most or all of it today, can we nominate this again tomorrow? (I'm very new here. Don't know how this works)--Arkaprabha (talk) 08:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's fine, no need to renominate, but we are generally advised against posting anything with an orange or red maintenance tag, so that will need to be fixed, whenever you can. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What specific event is being nominated here? The police attack on September 17, the scheduled global protests for September 27, or is this a nomination for "Ongoing" for the entire thing? Whether or not the police attack was notable, it's too old to post now. We don't generally post things like scheduled protests, and I see minimal coverage of these planned global protests in Indian media (and none in other worldwide media.) IRW0 (talk) 14:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose personally I support these protests, but if you look at the other ITN items this seems to be an insignificant one. If we compare this with the 2013 Shahbag protests which was successfully nominated for ITN, we would find that there is little wider ramification and almost no recognition outside India (apart from BBC and mailonline) for the Jadavpur protests. Legaleagle86 (talk) 17:53, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Just not a significant protest. Rhodesisland (talk) 03:15, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 22

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September 22, 2014 (2014-09-22) (Monday)

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Business and economy

Dresser-Rand Group Inc for US$7.6 billion. (Reuters via Yahoo!)

Merck KGaA agrees to buy American chemical company Sigma-Aldrich for US$17 billion. (AP via USA Today)

advertisement that attacks the country. (Rappler)

Politics and elections

The
general election. (AP)

2014 Hong Kong electoral reform

Students from more than 20 universities and colleges in
decision to rule out fully democratic elections. (The Guardian)

Science and technology

NASA's MAVEN space probe successfully arrives in orbit over Mars. (BBC)

September 21

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September 21, 2014 (2014-09-21) (Sunday)

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Shia insurgency in Yemen

The Yemeni government and Shia
Mohammed Basindwa resigns, and under the deal, rebels will nominate a new prime minister within three days. (BBC)

Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant

Tens of thousands of Kurds flee into Turkey ahead of an ISIL offensive. (AFP, New York Times via Sydney Morning Herald)

Terrorism in Pakistan
The
F-16, and releases pictures of the wreckage. (The Blaze)

An explosion near the Egyptian foreign ministry building in Cairo kills at least two police officers. (BBC)

Health

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa

A three day curfew in Sierra Leone ends and will not be extended. (BBC)

Politics and elections

More than 26,000 people in
War in Donbass. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty) (BBC)

Rallies in support of Ukraine and against the
War in Donbass take place in Boston, New York, Sydney, Dublin, Madrid, London, Paris, Oslo, Tallinn, Limassol, Istanbul, Antalya, Cologne, Milan, Rome, Vienna, Munich, Prague, Berlin, Moscow, Volgograd, Yekaterinburg, Perm, Krasnoyarsk, Novosibirsk, Berlaul and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. (LiveUAMap)

Afghanistan’s rival presidential candidates, Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah, sign a power-sharing deal that establishes a unity government with Ghani as President and Abdullah as Chief Executive. (Euronews), (AP via Mashable)

Religion

Pope Francis celebrates Mass in Albania. (BBC)

Sport

In tennis, two-time Australian Open champion Victoria Azarenka is to miss the remainder of the season because of the foot injury that has blighted her year. (BBC)

[Posted] MAVEN probe

Article: MAVEN (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  The NASA probe MAVEN enters orbit of Mars to study its atmospheric loss. (Post)
News source(s): NBC News ABC News (US) BBC The Guardian Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

Nominated by 331dot (talk · give credit)

Updated by
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Space probes reaching their destination are ITNR. An Indian Mars probe (the Mars Orbiter Mission) will arrive on Tuesday; perhaps a combined blurb? I welcome advice on the blurb. --331dot (talk) 09:18, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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I suggest we post this now and expand the blurb tomorrow. --Tone 09:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support I think it is newsworthy and a quality article.
(Talk) 09:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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@
ITNR list it has already been judged notable enough for posting; we are now just judging article quality and deciding on a blurb. 331dot (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Support - INTR, and the article is in good shape. Happy to support as a solo, or combined blurb, but I have not looked at the other article yet. Tone's suggestion is good. Jus da fax 09:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posting. Feel free to update the image. --Tone 09:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Mars Orbiter Mission has also entered the orbit. The news needs to be updated.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:27, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Mars Orbiter Mission article is also updated -Abhishikt (talk) 04:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

People's Climate March

Article: People's Climate March (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Over 300,000 people take part in the People's Climate March in New York City. (Post)
News source(s): NY Times NBC News
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Nominated by Johnsemlak (talk · give credit)

--Johnsemlak (talk) 23:04, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Opppose Maybe 10,000. The pictures show show maybe 50 people wide by 200 deep at most. This leftist magazine has a picture, and except for overestimating the number, tells the exact truth: The Mainstream Media Ignores 100000+ Progressive Protesters. I.e., everyone is ignoring this. μηδείς (talk) 00:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like OR to me. It's on the top of the news here, probably because it wasn't expected to do so well. Also, marches held in many cites across the world, not just NYC. Abductive (reasoning) 01:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One note on the number--I would like to see an independent estimate on the crowd size in NY. The estimate of 300,000+ is by the organizers. The major media sources have quoted that figure but not made their own estimate..--Johnsemlak (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment As this appears to have been something that occurred in several worldwide locations, if we could get an accurate (within Medeis' concern above) count and a city number, a better blurb would be "Over x00,000 people in y cities participate in the People's Climate March". --MASEM (t) 01:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Protests happened in several cities but the main one was in NY which is aimed at a UN summit on climate change .--Johnsemlak (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe that the march was in advance of the summit might help the blurb (to give more relevance in the ITN box) eg, staying with your current language "Over 300,000 people take part in the People's Climate March in advance of the UN Climate Summit in New York City." --MASEM (t) 02:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose- We should post only the summit, not these meaningless preliminary protests. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:35, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Major event, worldwide coverage in the news. Article looks ok. Opposes fail to make the case that this is not a valid ITN blurb. Jus da fax 04:22, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support if the blurb is globalized as the event was not limited to New York. Starting to get coverage in MSM. Not sure where the crowd estimates are from but we should try to lock that down too. 331dot (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Bzweebl. Protests, marches and demonstrations around the world take place every day, but we usually post only those who end up in civil disorder, political response and significant international reactions. Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with it and seems to be notable only for the record, although the number of participants in the march also seems to be heavily inflated. The article is in very good shape, though.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Simply not major news. I think this showed up once in my news feed this morning. Opposes fail to make the case that this is not a valid ITN blurb - please try to raise the level of debate above, Yes it is! Not it isn't!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldenRing (talk • contribs) 00:50, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Not a significant protest. Should we close it or just let it slide off? Rhodesisland (talk) 03:11, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship

Article: 2014 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  The 2014 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship concludes with Poland defeating Brazil in the final. (Post)
Credits:

Nominated by Kiril Simeonovski (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on
WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
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Oppose- Orange tag, article has little prose. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:36, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Amazing work putting all those tables together, but all tables and no text makes Jack a dull boy.
(Talk) 09:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah

Articles: Ashraf Ghani (talk · history · tag) and Abdullah Abdullah (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah agree to become president and chief executive officer of Afghanistan, respectively. (Post)
News source(s): Businessweek
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Nominated by
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One or both nominated events are listed on
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Support, a major development after months of deadlock. Nsk92 (talk) 17:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I think this would be ITNR (the results of the election/change in head of state). 331dot (talk) 20:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article refers to Abdullah Abdullah as Prime Minister of Afghanistan. 174.112.177.36 (talk) 21:02, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support in principle; however, the update to the Ashraf Ghani article seems to be entirely unreferenced. GoldenRing (talk) 05:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question The BBC reports 1 that Abdullah Abdullah will nominate the CEO, not be the CEO. Who is right? GoldenRing (talk) 05:41, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Needs Attention Just hoping to raise awareness of this one before it slips off! Rhodesisland (talk) 03:09, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 20

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September 20, 2014 (2014-09-20) (Saturday)

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Shia insurgency in Yemen

Fierce battles between army and
Sana'a, killing 123 people and forcing hundreds to flee their homes. (AJE)

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

The
Kurdish town of Kobani on the border with Turkey. (ABC Australia)

The
Ahmet Davutoglu says that 49 Turkish hostages taken after the fall of Mosul have been released. (AP)

Arts and culture

An
Chinese President Xi Jinping as 'Eleven' Jinping, apparently confusing Xi's name with the Roman numerals XI. (The Hindu)

Bishop
Francis Eugene George, O.M.I., 77, who is ill with a recurrence of cancer, as Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago. (New York Times)

Disasters and accidents

Tropical Storm Fung-wong (2014)
Tropical Storm Fung-wong heads towards Taiwan after leaving five people dead and 200,000 displaced in the Philippines. (Reuters via ABC News Australia)

Law and crime

Two high-visibility U.S based law firms
Morgan Lewis & Bockius, have decided to merge, according to a Reuters report relying on confidential sources. (Reuters)
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Politics and elections

New Zealand general election, 2014

Voters in
general election. (AP via ABC News America)

On preliminary counts, the National Party, led by John Key, wins a majority of 61 seats in the new 121-seat 51st Parliament. It is the first time a single party has held a majority since New Zealand switched to the Mixed Member Proportional voting system in 1994. Official results are expected to be released on 4 October 2014. (NZ Herald)

Slovenian MEPs of the European People's Party announce that they will vote against the new line-up of the European Commission on 22 October unless former PM Alenka Bratušek is replaced as Slovenia's commissioner. (Slovenia Times)

Sports

In
New Hampshire International Speedway, becoming the youngest driver ever to win a race in a NASCAR national series. (AP via ESPN)

In Australian rules football, Hawthorn advance to the AFL Grand Final against Sydney Swans by defeating Port Adelaide by 3 points in the second preliminary final at the MCG in Melbourne. (The Age)

[Posted] New Zealand general election, 2014

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New Zealand general election. (Post)
News source(s): BBC

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Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

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Support - A general elections in a country is always important.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:12, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a side note, this article does not need your support on importance, ITNR says we've already pre-approved it on importance. It needs your support on quality. --Jayron32 20:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
However, as per the "2014 Asian Games opening ceremony" discussion, you are absolutely entitled to discuss the importance of the ITNR, although this would not be the best venue for such a discussion. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A support goes hand in hand with all that you mentioned Jayron. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's not really clear from your comment, which is just about the merits of posting this(which, as Jayron said, has already been judged by being on the ITNR list). If you think the quality is adequate for an ITNR item, simply state that. 331dot (talk) 23:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously not for this specific items, but ITN/C item that is an ITNR item can still be judged if that instance shouldn't be posted, considering possible issues beyond article quality. A case I would consider would be where an incumbent is fully expected to win by a landslide and remain in power, and does win by a landslide and remains in power, and absolutely no one in the world is surprised by that. Yes, the election happened, but there's no real news story about that. It doesn't mean the overall ITNR entry on that list is bad, just that some cases it will be a non-newsworthy result. This type of situation would be very exceptional, of course, but the ITNR/ITNC process does account for this (note the language on the ITNR blurb in the template box above). --MASEM (t) 23:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posting. That is one seriously updated article ... --Tone 22:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Can we get someone to put up
David Levy: who's usually on the ball with all the picture stuff? --Jayron32 01:14, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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We also have the final Fijian election results due in 6 hours which might put a "brown" balding man on the main page, the decision is on wikipedia lol, the win for Key was a majority but a win for bainimarama would mean Fiji having a democratically elected government for the first time in 8 years...technically both the john key image and the swedish PM image were cropped by me so whatever works.. :P --Ste moc 02:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - could someone please fix the horrible grammatical error which is currently on the front page on

~~WP:ITN. It should say "wins" not "win", because "National Party" is singular. Adpete (talk) 04:41, 24 September 2014 (UTC)~~ Never mind, fixed after raising it at the correct place: Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors Adpete (talk) 07:18, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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September 19

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September 19, 2014 (Friday)

Accidents and disasters

Tropical Storm Fung-wong
- Manila is inundated by massive flooding causing flights to the international airport to be cancelled and businesses to shut down. (Bloomberg)
Between 20,000 to 30,000 people are evacuated in
Mayon spews lava. (TIME)

Indonesia's Mount Slamet erupts.(TIME)

Arts and culture

Saturday Night Live alumnus Darrell Hammond is chosen to be the new announcer of the long running U.S. variety show following the death of Don Pardo in August. (The New York Times)

Business and economy

NYSE in one of the largest initial public offerings in history. (BBC)

A report by Verité states that one third of migrant workers in
slaves. (The Guardian)

Attacks and armed conflicts

2014 Australian terror raids

Australia raises security for its Parliament after conducting raids that arrest dozens of suspected terrorists. (CBS News)
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
- France launches airstrikes against the Islamic State. (Fox News)
- prostitutes" which is contrary to the teachings of Islam. (The Diplomat)

Health

2014 West African ebola outbreak

Sierra Leone begins a nationwide lockdown in order to slow the spread of the disease. (CNN)

International relations

Japan vows to continue its whaling program despite passage of an anti-whaling vote in the International Whaling Commission. (Reuters)

Law and crime

Glaxosmithkline US$490 million for its alleged involvement in a bribery scandal. (BBC)

Politics and elections

2014 Scottish independence referendum
- Scotland votes "No" to Scottish independence. (The New York Times)
- Voter turnout in the referendum hits 84.5%, a record high for any election held in the United Kingdom since the introduction of universal suffrage in 1918. (ITV)
- Prime Minister David Cameron announces plans to devolve further powers to Scotland, as well as the UK's other constituent countries. (BBC)
- Alex Salmond announces his resignation as First Minister of Scotland and leader of the Scottish National Party following the referendum. (BBC)
Slovenia's 12th government is sworn in with Miro Cerar as the new prime minister. (Slovenia Times)
Radoslaw Sikorski becomes speaker of the parliament. (Euronews)

Sports

In tennis, Chinese two-time Grand Slam winner Li Na announces her retirement after persistent knee problems. (AP via Sports Fan)
The 2014 Asian Games gets underway in Incheon, South Korea. (AP)
In Australian rules football, the AFL minor premiers, the Sydney Swans, advance to the AFL Grand Final by defeating North Melbourne by 71 points in the first preliminary final at ANZ Stadium in Sydney. (THE AGE)

[Posted] Alibaba IPO

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NYSE, in the largest ever initial public offering. (Post)
News source(s): [19]

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Nominated by King of Hearts (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Very important financial event. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - A record, notable enough for ITN.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:20, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I find this a good story to post but I'd like to see some more support. --Tone 22:12, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support A notable record. Neljack (talk) 04:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems very newsworthy to me.
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Support, based on the "what does this mean for you?" type news articles I'm seeing. Abductive (reasoning) 02:58, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support- Not notable for an arbitrary record, but for the significance of a massive Chinese corporation making an IPO in the US. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment good level of support, article has a couple of "out of date" orange tags that could use a fix before posting. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:53, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Revise header to $25 billion after greenshoe option. Now makes it the largest IPO in world history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.105.153 (talk) 19:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Updated. The Rambling Man: Could this be posted ASAP? It's quickly getting stale... -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Also tweaked the blurb wording slightly - it sounded a bit stilted as it was, to my ear. GoldenRing (talk) 05:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 07:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Asian Games opening ceremony

Article: 2014 Asian Games opening ceremony (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  The 2014 Asian Games opens in Incheon, South Korea (Post)
Credits:

Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk · give credit)
Updated by GTVM92 (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Updates are ~~a bit~~ light, but for a new article, this could be acceptable. --–H T D 17:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Comment/question. Do we typically post the opening and closing ceremony of non-Olympic sporting events or just one of them? Thryduulf (talk) 23:00, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The ITNR list states that only the opening of this(and the other non-Olympic events) is posted; the closing would have to be nominated and judged on its merits. 331dot (talk) 23:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I can't even imagine the uproar if we had an American or European games, let alone an opening ceremony. μηδείς (talk) 23:34, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- All-Africa Games, Pacific Games. Thryduulf (talk) 00:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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  - To all of which I am opposed. Nothing regional/racist. All that should be posted is significant new world records if they occur in these games, otherwise we are saying nothing more than some calendar event like Christmas has come around. It's a total bastardization of the encyclopedic system. μηδείς (talk) 00:54, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - I can understand this reasoning, but then we'd have a problem on which "story" would be posted. For the Winter Olympics, would it be the much opposed (and supported) ice hockey final? There'd be a long discussion on this, the 12-hour veto won't have to be invoked if ever that was passed. –H T D 10:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at talk you'll see there's even more opposition to this carp, from User:HiLo48, nonetheless, the two of us being sworn emenies. μηδείς (talk) 03:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Listed on ITN/R means it should be posted. IMO this is not the place to discuss if Asian Games should be ITNR, that place is the ITNR talk page which is that-a-away ----> - NickGibson3900 ^Talk 08:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support- This is ITN/R so importance is not discussed on this page, only article quality. American or European Games are much smaller than this. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 23:49, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus to Remove the consensus so far is to remove the opening ceremonies from ITNR. The fact that they habve until now been listed at ITNR is not itself a reason the item should be posted. A listing at ITNR is supposed to indicate repeated overwhelming consensus to post, and that most obviously does not exist. Again, any new world record at the games should be nominated and posted on its own merits. μηδείς (talk) 00:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Show me the consensus and I'll agree we should propose removal from ITNR and discuss. Right now I'm not seeing any consensus on anything related to this nomination, especially since you were the only one who opposed. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:39, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here. HiLo48 (talk) 03:42, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Ok, stricken. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:46, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Removed] Remove from Ongoing:
Ukraine Conflict

In terms on new encyclopedic news, this is in a bit of a lull. The ceasefire seems to pretty much be sticking and although there are outbreaks of incidents, they haven't been of individually significant to be full news stories in themselves. Latest events are here

War_in_Donbass#September_ceasefire. I'd like to start a place for people's opinions on when this would drop below the criteria for staying on as Ongoing. For reference, the Gaza conflict ceasefire took place on the 26th August, and we pulled it from ongoing on the 28th [20]. CaptRik (talk) 21:36, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Not to prejudice the question, but is there a template for ongoing? And if not, shouldn't there be? μηδείς (talk) 00:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Remove this has dropped off the bottom of most news outlets, we can always re-add should something kick off again. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:19, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Remove as this is not a top ongoing story; as TRM said it can always be put back. 331dot (talk) 22:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Removed, as suggested. --Tone 22:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 18

Portal:Current events/2014 September 18

September 18, 2014 (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
- Islamic State release a video purporting to be from British journalist John Cantlie as propaganda. (Reuters)
- The United States Senate passes a budget measure authorising President Barack Obama to equip and train moderate rebels to fight ISIL in Syria. (Washington Examiner)

International relations

Russian military intervention in Ukraine
- The President of Ukraine visits the United States to seek assistance in combating separatists in eastern Ukraine. (BBC)

Health

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa
- The Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon announces the creation of an emergency mission to respond to the virus which has killed over 2,500 people in West Africa . (Bloomberg via Washington Post)

Law and crime

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant sympathisers based on intelligence claims that they were planning a public execution in Australia with fifteen people arrested. (News Limited)

Eight people have been shot dead including six children in the small American town of Bell, Florida. (AAP via The Australian)

Politics and elections

2014 Scottish independence referendum
- Voters in Scotland go to the polls to vote on the referendum on independence. (Reuters), (The Telegraph), (BBC)
German president Joachim Gauck welcomes state officials to Mecklenburg-Vorpommern to address demographic change in Europe and commemorate 25 years of the Peaceful Revolution. (Official press release)

Science

Ultracompact dwarf galaxy M60-UCD1 is revealed to be the smallest known galaxy to have a supermassive black hole at its centre. (Washington Post via Sydney Morning Herald)

Sports

In cycling, Germany's Jens Voigt sets a new hour record, covering 51.115 kilometers at the Velodrome Suisse in Grenchen, Switzerland. It is the first hour record attempt since the UCI established new unified rules for such attempts. (The Guardian)

Ebola

Article: No article specified
Blurb:  The

Ebola virus a "threat to international peace and security" in its first-ever resolution regarding a public health crisis.
News source(s): BBC

Credits:

Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Move from Ongoing to blurb considering the gravity of the situation. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC page states that it was the UN Security Council, not the WHO. 331dot (talk) 20:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, where did I get that from? Updated. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Understandable; the WHO is mentioned in that article. 331dot (talk) 20:40, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If this is blurbed, this should not remove the ongoing, since this is only a critical midpoint and the ebola story will still be going strong. --MASEM (t) 20:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, no big deal. We could always place it back onto Ongoing once the blurb got stale. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:49, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a link for some solid numbers? I have just recently read that this might go into six figures, but some bureaucratic body pontificating makes me want to ask how many divisions the pope has. μηδείς (talk) 21:01, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there's already a sticky on the epidemic. The UN's $0.02 on the subject doesn't really change the facts of the epidemic. Didn't the UN warn us that the polar ice cap would be gone by now anyway. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The UN expressing an opinion does not create a material change in the situation. Reso lute 23:17, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose It's a major story but I worry about it yo-yo'ing between full blurb and Ongoing if major announcements are made about it. As it stands, a full blurb would drop back off again in 7 days or so. There's absolutely no doubt that it should be on the main page, but as it stands I believe we've not even reached the peak of the outbreak. CaptRik (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support with added altblurb. Per the BBC ref: "Never before has the United Nations Security Council met to confront a public health crisis". From a Science article [21]: "the resolution had 130 co-sponsors, more than any previous one in the history of the Security Council." IRW0 (talk) 22:20, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Will the UN's statement have any lasting significance? No. -- Ypnypn (talk) 02:43, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Royal & Ancient allow women

No consensus to post. --Tone 13:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: The Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St Andrews (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Members of The Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St Andrews vote to allow women members for the first time in its 260-year history. (Post)
News source(s): BBC CNN
Credits:

Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Very odd, but yet curiously notable. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. It seems notable that the 'home of golf' would change its longstanding membership policy. 331dot (talk) 20:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The most prestigious club in the US did this in the 90's and the result, historically, was nix, nada, nichevo. It's almost as bad as 40 year old couple accept that their only child is gay. μηδείς (talk) 21:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken, but Augusta National wasn't nearly as old as this club, nor was it essentially where golf arose from. 331dot (talk) 22:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose welcome to the 21st century. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:08, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support as the home of golf. The matter (allowing women to join a golf club) isn't notably any more. It was in the 90s. But the club in this case makes it worthy of ITN. We don't post ITNs when countries legislate for same-sex marriage any more, for example. But if Afghanistan did, we'd post that. --Tóraí (talk) 05:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support, this really is an epoch-defining event, given the timescales and global significance involved. Rule changes made by distant foreign countries don't really factor into it; this is the real thing. --
talk) 00:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Is this a legitimate support vote, or a parody of users supporting this nomination and others like it? Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:43, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Can't you see that it's so blatantly obvious that this event has "long lasting impact" and is "of worldwide significance"??? #haha –H T D 12:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, elicited little more than a yawn when it happened, and mostly forgotten already. Nsk92 (talk) 17:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Other than exposing some elitist retardedness, not very notable.
(Talk) 01:47, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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[Closed] Archbishop of Canterbury admits he has doubts about God

No consensus to post an individual's doubts about his employer. Step hen 03:58, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Archbishop of Canterbury (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  The Archbishop of Canterbury sometimes has doubts in his belief in God. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Count Iblis (talk) 20:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose posting the mere statement; if there are repercussions from it (such as attempts to remove him from his position) that might merit posting. 331dot (talk) 20:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose if we didn't post the fact that the Pope suggested that there was a significant percentage of child sex abusers in the Catholic Church, why post this? I imagine most, if not all people of faith have occasional doubts. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless and until we get an official statement to confirm that God has doubts about the existence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Bencherlite^Talk 21:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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I LOLed. xD
☎ • ✎) 02:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose not every utterance that may be construed as against the faith made by the leading priest of that faith is newsworthy enough all the comments by Pope Francis about gays and divorcees taking communion were never posted - now if he had declared himself an atheist and quit the post, that would be newsy, but apparently his doubts, however deep or fleeting they may have been, have been settled. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It makes a good sound-bite, but not news. GoldenRing (talk) 01:32, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] Hour record

Articles:

Nergaal (talk) 18:08, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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~~Weak oppose~~ suggest you enhance the blurb a touch to allow non-experts to understand what this is about. Target article is in a poor state, badly referenced, lots of reliance on discussion forums and so on. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:39, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I have no idea why you say the article is badly referenced my friend. Only the doping section has bare URLs.
  (Talk) 19:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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  - I was talking about the original blurb target. The change is why I've struck my oppose. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - OK. I'm in the process of getting more references in there (and info)
      (Talk) 20:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Support Just about to come here to nominate this. Suggest the target article is Voigt with the blurb along the lines of "In cycling, Jens Voigt set a new hour record." Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 18:47, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps, if we allow ourselves to indulge in grammatically correct blurbs and blurbs which most people could get to grips with, we could go for something like "In cycling, Jens Voigt sets a new hour record, riding more than 51 kilometres (31.7 mi) in an hour." The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is THE record of cycling, and the only featured news about cycling is once a year, the Tour de France.
(Talk) 18:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Just a point of information, we do have
WP:ITNR as well. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Comment, I don't see this as an extraordinary record. It pales in comparison to this feat by Indurain: "The definitive answer came on the 65-kilometer time trial in Luxembourg after only a week of racing. Steamrolling the hilly course, he averaged over 49 kilometers an hour, effectively obliterating his competition. Leaving his nearest competitors four minutes behind he zapped all suspense and demonstrated why "Big Mig" would be the greatest Tour rider of his generation.". In the cycling news article, we can read what is really going on with these "hour records": "The hour record dates back to the early days of the bicycle, but it was made famous in recent history by the long-standing record of Eddy Merckx. Although Merckx's mark of 49.431km held only until Francesco Moser broke 50km in 1984, the UCI retroactively changed the rules in 2000, disallowing all records set that did not adhere to the traditional position and equipment set by Merckx in 1972. Therefore, the efforts of Tony Rominger, Miguel Indurain, Graeme Obree and Moser were all relegated to the "best human effort" category." Count Iblis (talk) 20:47, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Your long text is interesting, but not relevant to the Hour record. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is similar to marathon times: unless you have some standardization, you can not exclude i.e wind from having enhanced Indurain's performance. This record is done under very well standardized conditions. Some people from the past might have beaten this distance with current equipment, but we are talking here about an officially sanctioned performance.

Nergaal (talk) 21:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Support - interesting. itn material.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Cycling's equivalent to the 100m sprint world record. Something different for ITN. CaptRik (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 2% is not a particularly significant margin in my view, nor is it a particularly long standing record at 9 years. There are thousands of world records out there, we can't possibly post every single one. If this does go up then at least modify the blurb - the emboldened link by itself should give some clue as to the context. The fact that an inherently generic term such as "hour record" in a free standing sense points to the relevant article (for context) is irrelevant - that speaks more of Wikipedia politics than of the legitimacy of a claim of primary sense. Justin Urquhart Stewart (talk) 03:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I would argue that 2% is a HUGE margin, as the record has sometimes been beaten by meters in the past, and he totally smashed it by 1.4 km. Most of the articles about it say he 'smashed it'
  (Talk) 23:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Note this is a 5-1 vote.
Nergaal (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose. This headline appears way at the bottom of the BBC Sport website right now and it's not getting huge coverage. This seems to mainly be of interest for cycling aficionados which is a niche group as it is. The comparison to major track and field records seems pretty weak to me-- those records generate a lot more interest.--Johnsemlak (talk) 14:23, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point to me the where it states it has to be high on the BBC website before it's included on WP's frontpage? I'm guessing if Bradley Wiggins had a pop at this, it'll be frontpage on the BBC and WP. The "cycling aficionados" comment adds more weight for it to be posted IMO. A non-American in a sport not that well covered getting some good quality article updates. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 18:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is in pretty good shape (not perfect, there's maybe 1-2 more cites needed), but really a solid article, and the information is certainly current. I see no harm in showing the world a good Wikipedia article. It's certainly better than 90% of the stuff we put up in ITN merely because something is happening now. It would be nice to post something which is meant to showcase quality work for a change. --Jayron32 14:36, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jens Voigt just set a very important cycling record, eclipsing a long standing mark. See also Hour record. This is a big deal! He did it on a closed track. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:30, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A pic of the record has been added to the article, so I replaced it here too. We now have a pic of the record in progress.
(Talk) 23:36, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Comment Here's some sources from around the world. This is a very big deal.

I saw the source on the kw output, but I haven't found it again. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:57, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Marked as ready as I've already offered an opinion. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:13, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What happens now? How long before it's posted? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Need an independent admin to pop by and post it. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:18, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sod it, posted. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one, Rambles. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] 25 years of the Peaceful Revolution

MORE APPROPRIATE FOR "ON THIS DAY"

Try to get this on

WP:OTD instead; it was made specifically for anniversaries of this type. --Jayron32 17:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Articles: Peaceful Revolution (talk · history · tag) and Joachim Gauck (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  German president Gauck welcomes state officials to Mecklenburg to celebrate 25 years of the Peaceful Revolution (pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb:  German president Gauck welcomes state officials to Mecklenburg to adress demographic change in Europe and commemorate 25 years of the Peaceful Revolution (pictured).
News source(s): ^[2]
Credits:

Nominated by Horst-schlaemma (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: For all I can see we didn't have an ITN piece on the anniversary of the most important event in late 20th century history. I think we should, especially in these times of more upcoming war and despair it's important to remember how things can be carried out peacefully. ---- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The demographic aspect is important and wasn't featured on ITN either, but the alternative blurb could be a bit long for the box, so we might stick with the shorter blurb. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'speedy close' if anything this is for OTDLihaas (talk) 11:44, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This anniversary may well be suitable for OTD, but not ITN. As a general rule we don't post anniversaries - even of things as big as WW1. Modest Genius ^talk 11:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What's OTD, if I may ask? -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 11:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- On This Day... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:04, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Oppose Would've been a better fit for OTD. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. We generally don't post anniversaries unless the actual commemoration events are somehow noteworthy themselves; I don't think the President meeting with state officials qualifies. 331dot (talk) 16:41, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] Scottish independence referendum

Article:

votes against

independence from the United Kingdom.
Credits:

Nominated by Ashishg55 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I know this will almost certainly be posted after the result but this maybe one of few votes where readers would want some background and will be interested in it as it happens. Bump nomination to 18th sept afterwards please. ---- Ashish -g55 23:05, 17 September 2014 (UTC) [relocated under correct date as per nominator's request - Justin Urquhart Stewart (talk) 00:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)][reply]

I think this is only notable if the Yes vote passes, otherwise it's just another domestic vote. DHN (talk) 23:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support only if yes wins. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 00:02, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose posting the fact of the referendum, I don't see what point it would serve, ITN is not some kind of reminder service. It'd be an obvious support for the actual result (expected on the 19th) regardless of the outcome, given its huge constitutional significance, but that is not the nomination here. Justin Urquhart Stewart (talk) 00:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose posting before the results. Support only if it passes. Reach Out to the Truth 01:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Whilst I don't support posting this now (until we've got results), why exactly would it only be news if Scotland voted in favour of independence? It would be just as newsworthy if Scotland decided to stay in union, given the close nature of the race. RGloucester — ☎ 01:12, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is there to report if they vote no? Scotland almost declares independence but doesn't? And anyway, from a statistical perspective, the outcome of the race has been close, but has never been in statistical doubt. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 01:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This has been a slow burning issue for at least the last twenty years: whatever the outcome the matter is put to bed for a generation. It is not as if in the event of a no vote Salmond (or anyone else in the SNP) will be allowed to try again in five years - Britain has a general aversion to referenda compared to many other countries and you certainly can't simply re-poll until you get the "right" answer. Justin Urquhart Stewart (talk) 01:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Times are a -chanin...got an EU referendum due soon. And some precedence in Quecec for a nother vote within a generation (depends how its defined)Lihaas (talk) 08:40, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the context of ITN, this is one of the few referendums where the outcome doesn't really matter, imnsho. The vote itself is a historic and defining moment in the history of Scotland and Great Britain, much in the way the

1995 Quebec referendum was for the province and Canada as a whole. We should post the result either way. Reso lute 19:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Support once the result is known, whether yes or no. Cameron, Klegg, and what's'sname all just signed a pledge to give each Scott a diamond-studded golden tooth plate, a low rider wif subwoofahs, and 5,000 Swiss Francs if they vote no (I realize that's bad Cockney, please don't chime in). That pledge alone is hysterical enough to be noted in an encyclopedia. When's the last time a UN security council permanent member let half a province decide to take away its sole deep water naval base? μηδείς (talk) 01:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support once certified election results are known. Given the worldwide interest in this, and the closeness of the opinion polling, it should be posted no matter the result. Abductive (reasoning) 02:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support once results are in - whatever the result. The referendum has been getting lots of international media attention. If Scotland voting to become independent would have significant effects, then by the same token it voting against independence would be equally significant since it would prevent these effects from happening. Neljack (talk) 03:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support regardless of the results as this is a huge story with worldwide implications. Jus da fax 04:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Neljack. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:01, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support once results are in, whichever way they go. Given the general opposition to posting before results are available, I've updated the blurb and provided an altblurb for the two outcomes. GoldenRing (talk) 23:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DAMN! took my nom ;( 'support regardless with result' to be declared in under 24 hours. Its got ramification and is certainly in the news.

ALBA GO BRAIG!!!! Let freedom reign!!!!!!Lihaas (talk) 08:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. We need to be careful over precise terminology, given that the question asked is simply "Should Scotland be an independent country?" We should not try to interpret the result in an over-specific way. Words like "secession", and even "United Kingdom", are not on the ballot paper and are best avoided - for example, we simply do not know if the remaining parts of the UK will still be called the "United Kingdom" or not. There is uncertainty and scope for interpretation over precisely what happens next. Hence, Altblurb2 - In a
referendum, Scotland votes for/against becoming an independent country. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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yes to "Should Scotland be an independent country" by definition means secession.Lihaas (talk) 11:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Blimey, that's a big article. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ye, should move the issues to a separate section as per the endorsementsLihaas (talk) 11:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Ghmyrtle's Altblurb2, whatever the result, once announced. — An
Pek the Penguin) 11:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Strong support, but only once the result is known and the article has been updated. Results are expected to be announced between 6:30 and 7:30 (BST) on Friday morning, so we have plenty of time yet. Modest Genius ^talk 11:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
'WHY is this not on the ITN template yet?
Nergaal (talk) 16:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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- Because voting is still taking place and we won't know the results for at least another 13/14 hours, that's why. ITN posts results of votes, not "voting begins" stories.
  Bencherlite ^Talk 16:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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- Um, Nergaal, have you suddenly become unaware of how ITN works? This is about the third or fourth time you've posted something that is most unusual. What's the deal? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Umh, not sure what u r taking about TRM. In this particular case the story itself seems unusually well covered even outside UK so I don't understand why can't this be posted before the results are out.

Nergaal (talk) 21:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Support once results are known. It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 16:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support when the tally is complete, regardless of the outcome. In a discussion on the main ITN talk page, I opposed posting this before the vote took place. Given all of the news coverage I've seen leading up to the vote in this past week, I'm certain this should be posted even if the "status quo" wins. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:26, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - It would be nice to get something up to say that votes are being counted (in a few hours time), and then update it to give the result at about 07:00 UTC. Franklin's ship can certainly be moved out of ITN. James^x12345 17:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Per Modest Genius. Miyagawa (talk) 19:25, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting the result, whatever way it goes. Historic event for UK and Scotland. Mjroots (talk) 19:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting the result. Defining moment in Scotland and the UK's history, no matter how it turns out. Reso lute 19:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support when results are known to us. GoodDay (talk) 21:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - when results are becoming clear.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:41, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting result when article is updated. Posting the fact of the referendum today would have been reasonable, but it's a moot point now. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The vote alone is major world news. Let's get this on the Main Page! ----Another Believer _(Talk) 01:32, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The official results will be in soon enough. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a news wire. Abductive (reasoning) 02:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support regardless of outcome. Seems obvious.
Talk To Me 02:06, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support after outcome, regardless of outcome. It is news either way.
Chillum Need help? Type {{ping|Chillum}} 02:08, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Post the altburb now. It's clear that the No-campaign has won, there is no point in waiting for the official result. Count Iblis (talk) 02:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pending results, irregardless of outcome (and right now with less than 1% between y/n, we're waiting until it is officially declared, not based on ongoing ballet tallies) --MASEM (t) 03:08, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting now; BBC have officially projected for No. Sceptre ^(talk) 04:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting now, per Sceptre; I can hear the fat lady warming up. Only three local authorities have not yet declared results. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:03, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posted The result just in pushes the question over the line. Scotland has voted No. --Tóraí (talk) 05:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's all over but the pouting. Sca (talk) 15:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's all over, bar the trouting. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC) [reply]

Suggest Update (Proposed as altblurb) to reflect the fact that Salmond has resigned. We don't often mention second-level leaders, but it fits well into the blurb (i.e., his resignation is not the whole story) and the circumstances of his resignation are, well, somewhat exceptional. Smurrayinchester 15:33, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I"d oppose that--we don't need to include details of the SNP politics in the blurb. Support blurb as is.--Johnsemlak (talk) 15:44, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 17

Portal:Current events/2014 September 17

September 17, 2014 (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Syrian Civil War
:
- Nearly 50 people have been killed in two days of
  Syrian government airstrikes on the town of Talbiseh in Homs Governorate. (BBC)

War in Donbass

A rocket attack by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine kills 10 civilians and injures 12 others in the village of Nyzhnya Krynka near Donetsk. (CNN)
Islamist insurgency in Nigeria
- At least 13 people are dead and 34 injured after Boko Haram gunmen attack a government college in the northern Nigerian city of Kano. (AFP via The Age)
Terrorism in Pakistan
- Al-Qaeda announced that it had temporarily captured the
  PNS Zulfiquar, in an attempt to attack the U.S fleet with onboard missiles, before it was recaptured by Pakistani Forces. (Reuters)

Arts and culture

Forensic teams from the
Battle of Bosworth by a combination of blows to the skull and pelvis. (BBC)

Disasters and accidents

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden is involved in a car accident on the Nockebybron bridge west of Stockholm. (The Local)
Evacuations continue from the area surrounding the
Mayon Volcano in the Philippines as lava flows down the mountain ahead of a possible eruption. (AFP via ABC News Australia)

International relations

Xi Jinping, the President of China, travels to India to improve trade links and attempt to resolve decades old disputes over borders. (BBC)

Politics and elections

Fijian general election, 2014
:
- Voters in
  Fiji First Party achieving 60 per cent of the vote. (ABC News Australia), (SBS)

Sport

The Minnesota Vikings National Football League team place star running back Adrian Peterson on the exempt/commissioner's permission list until his child abuse charges have been dealt with. (AP via ABC News America)

[Posted] Fijian general election, 2014

Article:

Fijian general election

, the first Fijian election in eight years.
Credits:

Updated and nominated by NickGibson3900 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on

WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: If the Swedish election gets ITN so should the Fijian one. Also it is on ITN/R. ~~ NickGibson3900 ^Talk 06:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Support - yes, every election on a General election level should be included at ITN.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support after update. Frank Bainimarama was re-elected. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 00:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support -"
FijiFirst Party returning as PM." Counting still ongoing for now and results should be out in less than 3 hours and please use this image of the winning PM....--Ste moc 04:00, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

NO prose update. Also updated te blurb to combine the alt with theunifhnished one...and added the coup part Lihaas (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ article needs to be updated, there's no excuse, plus the lead is pathetically short and contravenes
WP:LEAD. Look forward to seeing the supporters get involved with improvements if they have time. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

@The Rambling Man and Lihaas: I understand your concerns. TRM; I have expanded the lead and the info box. Official results are currently been announced as I type (06:59, 19 September 2014 (UTC)). I think it will be updated in the next 12-24 hours. Also - both your help would be appreciated if you have any spare time. -- NickGibson3900 ^Talk 06:59, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Counting is still ongoing and we should definitely get the final results (in relation to seats) in the next 5 hours even though some of the preliminary results may be out within the next hour..--Ste moc 09:28, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Obviously more significant (even) than "routine" general elections in most countries: official restoration of democracy after eight years of military rule. And it seems to me the article has been adequately updated. Aridd (talk) 19:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment should the result not be summarised in the lead of the article? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Done. NickGibson3900 ^Talk 08:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per
WP:ITN/R, but can you suggest an alternative blurb? Yogwi21^talk 09:20, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

@Yogwi21: Suggested alt blurb -- NickGibson3900 ^Talk 09:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: This is ready to go - NickGibson3900 ^Talk 02:45, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posted. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:26, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 17

Portal:Current events/2014 September 17

September 17, 2014 (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Syrian Civil War
:
- Nearly 50 people have been killed in two days of
  Syrian government airstrikes on the town of Talbiseh in Homs Governorate. (BBC)

War in Donbass

A rocket attack by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine kills 10 civilians and injures 12 others in the village of Nyzhnya Krynka near Donetsk. (CNN)
Islamist insurgency in Nigeria
- At least 13 people are dead and 34 injured after Boko Haram gunmen attack a government college in the northern Nigerian city of Kano. (AFP via The Age)
Terrorism in Pakistan
- Al-Qaeda announced that it had temporarily captured the
  PNS Zulfiquar, in an attempt to attack the U.S fleet with onboard missiles, before it was recaptured by Pakistani Forces. (Reuters)

Arts and culture

Forensic teams from the
Battle of Bosworth by a combination of blows to the skull and pelvis. (BBC)

Disasters and accidents

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden is involved in a car accident on the Nockebybron bridge west of Stockholm. (The Local)
Evacuations continue from the area surrounding the
Mayon Volcano in the Philippines as lava flows down the mountain ahead of a possible eruption. (AFP via ABC News Australia)

International relations

Xi Jinping, the President of China, travels to India to improve trade links and attempt to resolve decades old disputes over borders. (BBC)

Politics and elections

Fijian general election, 2014
:
- Voters in
  Fiji First Party achieving 60 per cent of the vote. (ABC News Australia), (SBS)

Sport

The Minnesota Vikings National Football League team place star running back Adrian Peterson on the exempt/commissioner's permission list until his child abuse charges have been dealt with. (AP via ABC News America)

[Posted] Fijian general election, 2014

Article:

Fijian general election

, the first Fijian election in eight years.
Credits:

Updated and nominated by NickGibson3900 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on

WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: If the Swedish election gets ITN so should the Fijian one. Also it is on ITN/R. ~~ NickGibson3900 ^Talk 06:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Support - yes, every election on a General election level should be included at ITN.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support after update. Frank Bainimarama was re-elected. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 00:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support -"
FijiFirst Party returning as PM." Counting still ongoing for now and results should be out in less than 3 hours and please use this image of the winning PM....--Ste moc 04:00, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

NO prose update. Also updated te blurb to combine the alt with theunifhnished one...and added the coup part Lihaas (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ article needs to be updated, there's no excuse, plus the lead is pathetically short and contravenes
WP:LEAD. Look forward to seeing the supporters get involved with improvements if they have time. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

@The Rambling Man and Lihaas: I understand your concerns. TRM; I have expanded the lead and the info box. Official results are currently been announced as I type (06:59, 19 September 2014 (UTC)). I think it will be updated in the next 12-24 hours. Also - both your help would be appreciated if you have any spare time. -- NickGibson3900 ^Talk 06:59, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Counting is still ongoing and we should definitely get the final results (in relation to seats) in the next 5 hours even though some of the preliminary results may be out within the next hour..--Ste moc 09:28, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Obviously more significant (even) than "routine" general elections in most countries: official restoration of democracy after eight years of military rule. And it seems to me the article has been adequately updated. Aridd (talk) 19:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment should the result not be summarised in the lead of the article? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Done. NickGibson3900 ^Talk 08:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per
WP:ITN/R, but can you suggest an alternative blurb? Yogwi21^talk 09:20, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

@Yogwi21: Suggested alt blurb -- NickGibson3900 ^Talk 09:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: This is ready to go - NickGibson3900 ^Talk 02:45, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posted. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:26, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 16

Portal:Current events/2014 September 16

September 16, 2014 (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Taliban insurgency:
- A large bomb explodes in Afghan capital Kabul resulting in at least three deaths of international troops and five injuries. (BBC), (Reuters), (AP)
Sinai insurgency:
- Six
  Sinai peninsula. (BBC)

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
:
Islamic State fighters shoot down a Syrian Air Force warplane conducting an airstrike on Raqqa. (AFP via NDTV)

Disasters and accidents

Twelve thousand people have been evacuated from the area near the
Mayon Volcano on the Philippines island of Luzon due to concerns over a possible eruption. (Reuters via Time)

2014 Pacific typhoon season:
- Typhoon Kalmaegi sweeps past Hong Kong after causing six deaths in the Philippines on Saturday. (PTI via The Hindu)
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370:
- Indonesian police chief General Sutarman says he knows what happened to the MH370 and an aviation expert claims MH370’s pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, caused the plane to crash by locking his copilot out of the cockpit, depressurised the cabin and shut down all communications before turning the plane around. (News.com.au)

Health

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa
:
- The
  Ebola virus clinics and train health workers. (The Hindu)
- Eight members of an Ebola awareness team are killed by
  rioting villagers in a remote area of southeastern Guinea. (Reuters)

International relations

Lawmakers from Ukraine ratify a landmark agreement with the European Union in tandem with a meeting of the European Parliament. (BBC)

Law and crime

Russian billionaire Vladimir Yevtushenkov is placed under house arrest for alleged money laundering. (AP)

Typhoon Kalmaegi (2014)

Article:

the Philippines. (Post)
News source(s): Weather Channel

Credits:

Nominated by
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talk to me 14:23, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Suggestion - Is this considered part of the typhoon season that hit India and other parts of Asia roughly a week ago (where there was tons of reported flooding and missing persons?) I don't think that got posted, so perhaps pushing that point again that "a series of typhoons in the SE Asia region have killed X people" or something like that. --MASEM (t) 14:38, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose a tragedy, to be sure, but frankly 10 storm- or accident- or disease- related deaths is of such frequent occurrence that the threshold really needs to be higher. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:11, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 15

Portal:Current events/2014 September 15

September 15, 2014 (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

War in Donbass
:
- Heavy shelling on the city of Donetsk, Ukraine, leaves 6 people dead and 15 wounded. (AP via Houston Chronicle)

Business and economics

Information technology company Cognizant agrees to buy health care information company TriZetto Corporation for US$2.7 billion. (New York Times)
Mojang, the makers of Minecraft, for US$2.5 billion. (AP)

Disasters and accidents

An accidental fire severely burns a
Taoyuan, Taiwan. (AFP via Channel NewsAsia) (New York Times)

Five hundred people drowned off the coast of
people traffickers deliberately sank their ship. (Reuters)

Two wildfires around Bass Lake, California, USA, cause the destruction of 21 homes and the evacuation of over 1,000 people. (The Weather Channel)

Politics and elections

prime minister. (Reuters)

Swedish Minister of Finance Anders Borg quits politics after he was considered to be the next leader of the Moderate Party, which he did not want. (Wall Street Journal)

Libya migrant shipwreck

Article: 2014 Libya migrant shipwreck (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  More than 200 migrants are believed to have drowned in a sinking off the coast of Libya. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  About 500 migrants drown in a shipwreck off Maltese coast and another 200 off Libyan coast.
News source(s): Daily Telegraph
Credits:

Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Once expanded, could be combined with news from 2014 Malta migrant shipwreck. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:48, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support alblurb Once the Libyan number is confirmed and both articles become fleshy. The total number (about 700) is dramatic. Brandmeister^talk 17:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Engvar these seem to have been one way illegal immigrants carried by human traffickers. Why would the blurb call them migrants if they are not seasonal/annual travellers with papers? Cannot we just call them Libyans who were drowned by human traffickers? μηδείς (talk) 21:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See the BBC article linked in my post below - I think this is an engvar issue where anyone migrating legally or illegally are referred to as migrants. CaptRik (talk) 22:05, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That the term is used in the British press, but not the American is precisely the issue. In the US there are legal migrant farm workers who work the season then go home. There are migrat birds that summer in one range and winter in another. We take huge pains to be Engvar neutral in sports results. I think it would make sense to say something likeX-hundred Africans/Libyans drown when human trafficker ram their vessel. μηδείς (talk) 23:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'Migrant' means someone who is migrating from one place to another. It applies regardless of how long for, whether legally or illegally, how far apart those places are etc. This meaning appears in every AmE dictionary I checked [22]. I can't see how it presents ENGVAR problems. Modest Genius ^talk 12:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's a thing called proper usage. According you, my sister and her family were migrants when the drove across a few states to visit their cousin for his first birthday? These may be refugees or undocumented workers but they are not seasonal travellers. Likewise, they weren't euthanized by pleasure-boaters. μηδείς (talk) 19:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did they go there in order to seek work? I doubt the infant was offering employment ;) Having said that, if there is a more neutral/inclusive way to put it, we should strive for mutual comprehension. Modest Genius ^talk 22:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Migrant" is the correct term and is uncoloured by politics at least in an encyclopedic sense. "Immigrant" or "emigrant" are matters of perspective best avoided but ultimately we have to assume that readers of the English language Wikipedia can at least speak English. MonumentallyIncompetent (talk) 04:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support the new ~200 death sinking, but according to [23] the 500+ one was last week and so might be ineligible? (despite being a tragedy that's only really coming to light now). CaptRik (talk) 22:05, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems as though the 500 death sinking occurred on the 10th [24] and so should be moved under that date, although as noted above it took some time for this to come to light.

talk to me 22:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Support altblurb. I think it'd be sensible to combine these two rather than consider them on separate dates, when the news has only emerged more recently. GoldenRing (talk) 05:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the term "migrant" actually is used in this sense globally e.g. The New York Times here, The Sydney Morning Herald here, The Times of India here, The Boston Globe here (different event, same wording), The Washington Post here.... The suggested usage appears to be just fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:21, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Just to reiterate, global and differing ENG variants use migrant in reliable sources. There's no issue with this usage. We use
  WP:POV. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:10, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
  ]

Comment: Engvar to my (native English) ear, "migrant" has something of a negative connotation when applied to people (compare with "vagrant"). Perhaps it's safer to just use "people" here.128.214.53.18 (talk) 09:21, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

óppose'' far too frequent...at this rate we shoul post the Iraq/Syria/Libya /Pakistan bombingsLihaas (talk) 16:45, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand your post, we do post Iraq etc in Ongoing when the going gets hot. Sinkings like this are nowhere near as common as bombings in the Middle East, as well you know. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

the article is a mere stub. CNN is reporting that the ship was deliberately rammed by the Palestinian smugglers and most aboard were Palestinians who used their rebuilding money to pay some official agency to be smuggled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.185.242.18 (talk) 01:34, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - significant number of deaths.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I would only support if the articles were expanded, but it's been a few days now and nothing has happened. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 21:18, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Microsoft acquires Mojang

No consensus to post. Step hen 06:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article:

Mojang for $2.5 billion. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, WSJ

Credits:

Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: While I fully recognize this is otherwise a small business deal in the scope of things, this is a rather huge thing in the world of video games, given the popularity and success of Minecraft. --MASEM (t) 13:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose regrettably. I've been paying attention to this story rather closely, but this is a small category of business news. Company acquisitions of small publishers and developrs are rather frequent, especially in the gaming world.--WaltCip (talk) 14:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support while I accept it's not the largest business news in the world, it is of interest to a large portion of our readers. I think waiting for the massive business news items now means we are unlikely to post any. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WaltCip. Admittedly of a large interest to readers but it's too small and frequent of a story. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 14:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- In terms of the video game industry, $2B is huge, and this is a rarity in that scale. Yes, in all of business, drop in the bucket, but not in this industry. --MASEM (t) 15:18, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support I believe that this is big news. While Mojang is a small company and may only have one big game (Minecraft), that game has sold "nearly 54 million copies across all platforms" and is a big gain for Microsoft Palmtree5551 (talk) 15:13, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Had that been Mojo, however. μηδείς (talk) 21:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Question: did we post Microsoft's acquisition of Nokia? Because that was a much bigger deal (both literally and figuratively). Modest Genius ^talk 21:21, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was discussed here - [25] and looks like it went stale without being posted. CaptRik (talk) 22:08, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, minor, minor deal. No impact on the players of minecraft. Abductive (reasoning) 23:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Says who? Do you have proof that this won't have any effect on Minecraft players? Palmtree5551 (talk) 00:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have proof. "In a nod to the backlash, the executive in charge of Microsoft's Xbox business said Monday the company will do whatever it takes to sustain the loyalty of "Minecraft" devotees.". Abductive (reasoning) 00:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The deal may be huge in the particular industry that Mojang is involved in, but no doubt that could be said about plenty of business deals of this size. I don't see why the video games industry should get preferential treatment over other industries. Neljack (talk) 23:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Arguably, it is almost impossible for video game news to make ITN, because some see it as too far niche despite numerous coming on part with other entertainment mediums for specific works. No, I'm not saying that we need to flood ITN with video game coverage, but it is a major development in that specific field, and since we generally try to consider stories relative to the field they are in, this would be a reason to consider inclusion. --MASEM (t) 01:02, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'd rather see those video game championships posted than business deals. Abductive (reasoning) 01:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 14

Portal:Current events/2014 September 14

September 14, 2014 (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
:
- Islamic State. (The Australian)

War in Donbass

Heavy fighting resumes between Ukraine forces and rebels near Donetsk International Airport with at least six people dead. The terminal is burning. (Deutsche Welle), (New York Times)

Disasters and accidents

At least 70 people are still missing after the ferry MV Maharlika II sinks off the Philippines island of Leyte. (AFP via Channel News Asia)
2014 India–Pakistan floods:
- India suspends rescue operations due to heavy rain in Jammu and Kashmir state where over 100,000 still await rescue. (Zee News)
The death toll from a collapse of
T. B. Joshua's The Synagogue Church of All Nations on Friday in the Ikotun area of the Nigerian largest city Lagos reaches 40. (The Express Tribune)

2014 Pacific hurricane season
- Hurricane Odile reaches Category 4 strength as it nears Mexico's Baja California coast. (AFP via Telesur)

2014 Pacific typhoon season
- Typhoon Kalmaegi hits the northeast Philippines with warnings of potential floods and landslides. (AP via Daily Mail)
A boat carrying 250 people from
Tajoura in Libya with most people feared drowned. (Reuters via New York Times)

Law and crime

American tourist Matthew Miller who was detained in April and sentences him to six years of hard labor. (AP) (CNN)

The Carolina Panthers deactivate defensive end Greg Hardy after his conviction on two counts of female assault and communicating threats. (USA Today)

Politics and elections

Swedish general election, 2014
:
- Voters in Sweden go to the polls for a general election with a leftist coalition led by the Swedish Social Democratic Party set to form government. Incumbent Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt announces that he will step aside as PM and as leader of the Moderate Party. (BBC), (AP)

Sport

The closing ceremony of the inaugural
Invictus Games takes place in London, with a music concert at Olympic Park featuring artists and groups such as Bryan Adams, Ellie Goulding, James Blunt and the Kaiser Chiefs. (BBC) (London Evening Standard) (The Daily Telegraph)

In
Serbia 129-92 to win the 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup. (New York Times)

In golf:
- American
  The Tour Championship played in Atlanta. (Reuters)
- South Korean teenager Kim Hyo-joo wins the year's final LPGA major, the Evian Championship, in France. (AP via ESPN)

[Closed] Matthew Todd Miller

No consensus to post. Step hen 04:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Matthew Todd Miller (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Matthew Todd Miller is sentenced to six years of hard labor by a North Korean court. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Nominated by
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Nominator's comments: Miller was convicted on charges of espionage. This seems to be a significant story since Miller and 2 other Americans have appealed to the US government to send a "senior statesman" to Pyongyang. [26] --

talk to me 00:58, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose Given they appeared to have willingly gone into NK to be disruptive, I'm not seeing this as a significant story. And 6 years is really a slap on the wrist in comparison to other top level ITN stories. --MASEM (t) 01:06, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose seems that nothing will come of this, he got caught, fair enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per TRM; also is not a top level news story(not even really in the US). 331dot (talk) 09:27, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's North Korea being North Korea. The U.S. Department of State even has a travel advisory saying that this sort of thing is typical.--WaltCip (talk) 12:29, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. He definitely got what he deserves and there is nothing pointing out that the North Korean court has violated any of its country's laws. We all know that the US media are familiar with misreporting the news relating to countries that are not in their favour, but we're simply not here to post stories about every single American "martyr".--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:13, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup Final

Article:

final (Post)
News source(s): ESPN, BBC

Credits:

Updated and nominated by Howard the Duck (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on

WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Updated and in ITNR. Good to go. –H T D 00:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC) --–H T D 00:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Support - ITN/R , and the article is updating and in good shape. --MASEM (t) 01:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support ITN/R—Bagumba (talk) 07:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mild support looks okay, but a heavy dependency on primary sources (FIBA) and an inconsistent approach to diacritics. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:29, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm a bit sceptical about this nomination as the quality of this tournament is far lower than the Olympic tournament. Many players from the European national teams usually prefer to play at the Olympics or the EuroBasket instead of the FIBA World Cup. For example, Tony Parker refused to play for France three times, while he regularly plays at the Olympics and the EuroBasket. The United States national team are also typically not represented by their top players. Evidently, even the media do not pay serious attention on it: its coverage here in Europe is definitely less than the EuroBasket, while in the United States it's not even on the level of the pre-seasonal NBA news. Another major issue is that even the FIBA officials are afraid about the popularity of this tournament and they decided to abandon organising it in the same year with the FIFA World Cup and thereby scheduled the next one to take place in 2019. I know that much of my concern will have to be addressed
elsewhere and so I decided to leave this just as a comment.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Posting. Well, it only takes place every 4 years and it's ITNR, so I guess we should keep it. I understand the concerns, otherwise. --Tone 13:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto International Film Festival

Article: 2014 Toronto International Film Festival (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  The Imitation Game wins the People's Choice Award at the 2014 Toronto International Film Festival. (Post)
News source(s): USA Today, WSJ
Credits:

Nominated by JuneGloom07 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on

WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

--JuneGloom Talk 17:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose one para of prose in the whole article, lots of unreferenced material (red links, sure, but that's no guarantee of anything), and out of date. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support - I know the article format is the same as previous years but it feels a bit thin, I'd like to point out to other commentors if we should expect more or is otherwise fine. I don't think it needs more based on this but otherwise seems good to go. --MASEM (t) 20:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Swedish general election, 2014

Article:

Swedish general election.
News source(s): [27], [28], [29], [30], [31]

Credits:

Nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on

WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Please feel free to change the blurb or add new ones, I think this election is noteworthy. --BabbaQ (talk) 12:25, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

comment. I think we generally wait until the result to post unless this is more notable than a normal general election in Sweden for some reason? Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment agreed, these kind of items are
WP:ITN/R so there's absolutely no point in nominating them until they're update suitably after the results have been ratified and announced. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:08, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Comment. Can someone expound on its " long-lasting impact in the world of politics"? Not just Swedish politics but I dunno, "world politics"? –H T D 20:09, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- See
  WP:ITNR (which you are commensurate with, of course). The Rambling Man (talk) 20:10, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  - The phrase "long-lasting impact" doesn't appear at
    WP:ITNR. Am I missing something? It does mention something about "importance", which most people won't ordinarily associate with "long-lasting impact". –H T D 20:14, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    You're commensurate with ITN/R, if you'd like to add/remove/modify the way items are added/removed there, this isn't the venue to do it. As you know. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah I know that. I'm just wondering how "long-lasting impact" gets in to the mix if it isn't at
    WP:ITNR. –H T D 20:37, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Now the results have come in, I've proposed an altblurb highlighting the Social Democrats winning the most seats - in line with our usual practice for elections. Neljack (talk) 01:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support The results are in and unless anyone wants to wait until they're verified and counted again this is ready to go. Bluefist ^talk 02:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support supposing the article update is done. Also made a minor adjustment to the altblurb wording. GoldenRing (talk) 03:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support the alt blurb, although it would be good to mention also the rise of the far-right
Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 09:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Posting. --Tone 13:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to replace the image of Oscar Pistorius by this image of

Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 13:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Done. —

David Levy 17:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

September 13

Portal:Current events/2014 September 13

September 13, 2014 (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Naxalite–Maoist insurgency:
- Three Maoists are killed and two are seriously injured in a fight with security forces in the Giridih district of India's Jharkhand state. (PTI)
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
:
- The
  Islamic State where there are civilians present. (AP)
- Islamic State releases a video purporting to show the beheading of British aid worker David Haines. (NBC News)

Disasters and accidents

At least 29 people are missing after the ferry MV Maharlika II sinks off the Philippines coast. (CNN)

Health

2014 Taiwan food scandal
:
- Yeh Wen-hsiang, the chairman of Chang Guann Co, is arrested for fraud for his role in the scandal. (AFP via SBA)

International relations

The government of Qatar asks exiled leaders of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood to leave. (AP)

Sports

In American football, Adrian Peterson, running back for the Minnesota Vikings, turns himself in to authorities in the Houston area. The day before, he had been indicted on child abuse charges stemming from an incident in which he spanked his 4-year-old son with a tree branch that he used as a switch. The Vikings have deactivated him from Sunday's game against the New England Patriots. (ESPN)

[Closed] Floyd Mayweather vs. Marcos Maidana

Consensus against, and closing now to avoid further fisticuffs.

Bencherlite ^Talk 20:59, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

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Article:

Floyd Mayweather, Jr. defeats Marcos Maidana by unanimous decision to retain his welterweight and lightweight titles. (Post)
News source(s): USA Today Los Angeles Times ESPN Fox Sports The Guardian CBS Sports Wall Street Journal Sports Illustrated

Credits:

Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: I think boxing should be covered on ITN, especially one of the greats such as Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Andise1 (talk) 04:28, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Boxing should be covered in ITN. Just not this fight. Right now, the only prospective fight with any juju would be the putative Mayweather-Pacquiao fight; but barring that one I can't imagine this fight (or nearly any other excepting perhaps a major heavyweight title unification fight) having enough importance to the sporting world to merit inclusion in ITN given the deplorable state of boxing right now. Even respectable boxing press derided this fight as Mayweather beating up an inferior opponent; it's another tomato can for Mayweather to take on while he and Pacquiao avoid each other even more. "Less than engaging", for just one example... --Jayron32 05:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For the love of god no Such an event should never be covered at ITN. It is not a sporting event of worldwide significance such as the Olympics or the Tennis Opens or the World Cup. Valiant Patriot (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Per above, "Please do not... ... complain about an event only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." Andise1 (talk) 05:33, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Per my objection, Floyd Mayweather winning his boxing match isn't news anywhere. This story is not news. Not news, ok? I'm not seeing it on BBC.Com NYT.com or News.com.au. This story is not news. Not news at all. Please don't assume people are so stupid they haven't read the guidelines at the top of the page. Valiant Patriot (talk) 05:40, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The only sporting events we should cover at ITN are the olympics, Tennis Opens, World cups and so on. Items of actual significance only please. Valiant Patriot (talk) 05:41, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BBC.com, New York Times, news.com.au. Seriously, if you're going to raise objections, you could at least do so from a place other than self-righteous "I'm so much better than all you people because I'm protecting the world from what I think are unimportant stories" bullshit. --Jayron32 05:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Jayron. I respect your oppose as you agree with me that Boxing should be covered on ITN. This match has been covered quite a bit, so to use the argument that it's not news is ridiculous. Andise1 (talk) 05:53, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I thought ITN was were we voiced our opinions on news articles, not where Jayron32 accused other people of spouting 'bullshit' and attacking those he disagrees with. How terribly 'self-righteous' of him. I was referring to the frontpages of those sites, clearly this 'bullshit' story is not warranting front page coverage anywhere in the world. Frankly, the fact that you so quickly jump to accusations, attacks and swear words demonstrates a severe lack of character. Thankyou and goodbye Valiant Patriot (talk) 06:09, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jayron is obviously having a bad day, but, to quote him, "he does need to modify how he interacts with people". Pot, kettle etc. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:15, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Given the nature of boxing, where there's no regular season, matches, or championship structure that we can use as a metric, we have to be very selective of what matches should be included. A significant boxing match would be ITN which would have had significant coverage before it happened would make sense, but this match does not seem to have that. --MASEM (t) 06:16, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose A single boxing match is almost never going to have long-lasting notability. They are usually just a swap of belts, the odd unification bout. If someone was e.g. killed during a prominent fight, that might have long-term implications for the sport and be worthy of consideration here. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:15, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per the reasons given; I think the heavyweight title might get the attention to be posted. 331dot (talk) 08:27, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- TBH, this fight had more press than the last 10 heavyweight bouts combined... or the Swedish election. –H T D 12:54, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  Can you quantify its long-lasting impact in the world of boxing, or the world of sport, or ... the world? If you object to Swedish elections, please focus your gripe at
  WT:ITN/R, as you are abundantly aware. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  - I dunno if I can quantify its long-lasting impact in the world of boxing; has anyone quantified Oscar Pistorious' murder case's long-lasting impact in the world of murder trials? I don't think anyone has did that.
    
    Now, I dunno anyone would agree to me, but I could quantify which boxing matches are worth posting. The same way how we judge which "championship match" in other sports with "multiple champions" (Golf, tennis) are posted: if the purse's big enough. Now, I dunno if the purse was big on this one, though. –H T D 19:18, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Lots of don't know. This is really not newsworthy, has no long-term impact on the sport, unlike this match for instance. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - This Mayweather fight is actually linked here above the fold, while that match is below the fold already, probably because it happened yesterday, and because some Brit is in the ICU. The fight you had suggested isn't even at ESPN.com's home page, while the Mayweather fight is. A fight being reported prominently in the leading sports websites across the pond? Remarkable. Boxing is always given the afterthought nowadays, mainly because the heavyweights suck. –H T D 20:06, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        You missed the point entirely. The fight I linked to includes a boxer who may die. The fight you're talking about was a run-of-the-mill money-making exercise which changed nothing. Nothing at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:37, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 12

Portal:Current events/2014 September 12

September 12, 2014 (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Central African Republic conflict (2012–present)
:
- More than 5,000 people have died in the Central African Republic in the past 9 months. (AP via Washington Post)
Russian military intervention in Ukraine
:
- The Government of Ukraine and pro-Russian separatists exchange dozens of prisoners agreed to as part of a ceasefire a week ago. Both sides still hold thousands of prisoners. (Washington Post)

Health

2014 Taiwan food scandal
:
- Taiwan's
  Food and Drug Administration indefinitely halts imports of edible lard oil from Hong Kong, since an exporter was found to have falsely listed and sold industrial grade lard as safe for human consumption. (Taipei Times)

Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa
:
Ebola virus outbreak that has claimed more than 2,400 lives. (New York Times)

International relations

Australia raises its terror threat level to high following concerns about militants returning from conflicts in Iraq and Syria. (BBC)

Law and crime

South African athlete Oscar Pistorius is found guilty of the "culpable homicide" of his partner Reeva Steenkamp. (BBC)
Three people are sentenced to death and one person given a life sentence for the
China's Xinjiang region. (AAP via SBS News)

Politics

Former
First Minister of Northern Ireland and Democratic Unionist Party leader Ian Paisley dies, aged 88. (BBC)

Science

Gale Crater. (Gizmodo)

Sport

In
Metropolitan Police Service in relation to a 2012 libel trial regarding allegations of match fixing made by former Indian Premier League boss Lalit Modi. (The Age)

[Posted] RD: Ian Paisley

Article: Ian Paisley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD

.

Support once improved but article needs a lot of work.
Bencherlite^Talk 12:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support By far the most visible unionist politician in modern Northern Ireland, and for a while,
the country's First Minister. I don't think the article's in very bad shape, although certainly some of the sections referring to contentious parts of the Troubles (such as the claim that he had direct control of a vigilante group in Ravenhill) need more references. Smurrayinchester 12:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support. Love him or loathe him (and most people went one way or the other) he was a hugely significant figure. Northern Ireland would be a very different place without him. The article does have quite a few {{
cn}} tags in some areas, but it's mostly fine and overall probably good enough to post to RD. Modest Genius ^talk 12:44, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support A major player in a countries recent history. CaptRik (talk) 14:12, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - A major player in one of the major conflicts of the 20th century--Yaksar (let's chat) 15:12, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - A significant individual involved in Northern Irish politics. Miyagawa (talk) 15:36, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Without a shadow of a doubt he was one of the two biggest figures in Northern Ireland politics. Thryduulf (talk) 16:02, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support – hugely influential figure in Northern Ireland. —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support any armed militant who stands up in the European parliament in 1988 holding a sign calling Karol Wojtilła (!) the antichrist deserves consideration, and his recurring role as Dr. Evil's sidekick, The Paisley Baron in Mike Myers' films makes him a shoe-in for RD. I am reminded of Christopher Hitchens, who when stopped by militants in the area was asked, "Catholic or Protestant?" On answering, "Atheist", he was asked, "Catholic Atheist or Protestant Atheist"? This is the end of an era. μηδείς (talk) 17:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD Clearly meeting the "top of field" as an important leader in events in Ireland. --MASEM (t) 20:32, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD From uncompromising Unionist firebrand to power-sharing First Minister, he certainly had a big role in the recent history of Northern Ireland. Neljack (talk) 22:45, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I see 12 citations needed, and as a Catholic sympathizer, I don't see myself qualified just to hide some, just so this gets posted. But the nom will go up if someone with better knowledge than I attends it. μηδείς (talk) 23:22, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed all of them.

talk to me 22:14, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Posted good work Jinkinson. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are 2 sentences for an update...meanwhile when you deem something not worthy despite consensus and a bigger update that is not fai r enough for ITN. Lord dictators of ITN...11:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Lihaas (talk)

Give it a rest. There was clear consensus in favour of it being posted, it was updated, albeit briefly, and had the many [citation needed] tags resolved by people who actually work to improve things around here. Get it? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:57, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Oscar Pistorius convicted

Article: Trial of Oscar Pistorius (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  South African athlete Oscar Pistorius is found guilty of culpable homicide of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  South African athlete Oscar Pistorius is found not guilty of murder but guilty of culpable homicide of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.
News source(s): BBC Le Monde CNN Times of India News 24 (South Africa)
Credits:

Nominated by Lugnuts (talk · give credit)

Thought I'd stump this one up for nomination as the verdict is (likely) to be today. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:13, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strongest Possible Opposse There is absolutely nothing newsworthy about the murder trial of an olympic athlete in South Africa. While ITN does in part reflect the news media, there is no actual encyclopedic value to the story. Valiant Patriot (talk) 08:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

....which is why it is the top headline story around the world, appearing on the top of most news sites, in some cases in large print(including France, the UK, India)- because it isn't newsworthy. This is something people will be interested in learning about, which is what ITN is about. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support original blurb – ~~when the article has been updated~~ altblurb is too long for itn and not necessary. Helen Online 08:44, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This is the top story around the world at the moment. Very rarely does one see one story get such attention in a wide variety of countries. Now that he has been convicted we don't have the lack of a conviction as an argument against. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support – I came here to nominate this but it already had been NickGibson3900 ^Talk 09:03, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Surely to be fair the blurb should also include his acquittal on the murder count - the most serious charge he faced. I've proposed an altblurb to this effect. We have to be scrupulously careful to be fair when it comes to a living person. Neljack (talk) 09:21, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support alt blurb. I agree. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two bold links to the same article? Nein danke. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:30, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point - I have no problem with taking one of them out. Neljack (talk) 09:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've amended it to incorporate them into one linked to the article. I don't think we really need to wikilink murder - unlike culpable homicide, it is a generally understood term. Neljack (talk) 09:59, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support original blurb The altblurb looks excessively moot to me, the wikilink to culpable homicide sorts this out. Brandmeister^talk 09:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I prefer the original blurb, but I don't object to the alt. Clearly the top story around the world at the moment. Thryduulf (talk) 10:00, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral, but use original blurb if posted (as seems likely). The story here is the crime he has been found guilty of committing, not the ones he didn't do. I'm a little uncomfortable about posting a sensational story like this, but it is certainly in the news and our article is extensive so I won't oppose. Modest Genius ^talk 11:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support and my preference is for the original blurb as I don't feel we're being biased by not mentioning the not-guilty. Ultimately this verdict was one of the possible outcomes so it's not news that others weren't chosen. CaptRik (talk) 12:14, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posted original blurb. It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 12:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Got a pic idea. I'm terrible at doing these right, but can we get a crop on
David Levy: don't you usually do these? --Jayron32 14:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

I have uploaded a cropped version for someone more powerful than me to add to the main page. HelenOnline 14:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Picture updated, thanks HelenOnline. Thryduulf (talk) 16:07, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Why was this picture uploaded to the front page without any discussion or consensus? Valiant Patriot (talk) 02:23, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - - Because we don't care what trolls think. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - The old picture was up for more than a week. Why wouldn't we replace it? And there was some discussion directly above, but that's a bonus; these picture swaps are usually uncontroversial enough to be done without prior discussion, as long as the updater knows what they are doing. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - I'll start a discussion about pictures generally at
        WT:ITN. Thryduulf (talk) 08:24, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
        ]

Per the FAR more notably ICC/ICJ trials we post the senencing not the conviction.

Make up your mind ITN, for consistency Lihaas (talk) 11:56, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? We judge consensus. There is no such entity as "ITN" which "makes up its mind". You aren't making any sense at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:58, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nigeria church collapse

Article:

talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): [32]

Mossad did it no doubt..v.Lihaas (talk) 12:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment why are you nominating an article which you have just put up at
WP:AFD? Are you being deliberately disruptive? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

September 11

Portal:Current events/2014 September 11

September 11, 2014 (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Islamist insurgency in Nigeria
:
- The Elders Forum in the Nigerian state of Borno warns that Boko Haram militants have surrounded the city of Maiduguri. (BBC)
Syrian Civil War
:
- The
  Nusra Front releases dozens of Fijian United Nations peacekeepers captured near the Golan Heights. (Reuters)

Law and crime

South African athlete Oscar Pistorius is found not guilty of murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp but may be convicted of a lesser charge. (AP)

[Closed] RD: Richard Kiel

fair chance given, obviously going nowhere. μηδείς (talk) 00:25, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Richard Kiel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/movies/richard-kiel-actor-who-played-james-bond-villain-jaws-dies-n200621
Credits:

Nominated by Palmtree5551 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD

.

Oppose Not an actor at the top of the field (well known if you know Bond films, but outside of that...). Not unusual death. --MASEM (t) 02:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not a significant actor. He played a significant sidekick for a villain in a couple of films. Not enough.--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:34, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose He was at the top of his field as a fictional metal-toothed assassin saved by the love of a girl with pigtails, so I'd support if that is the field we are talking about, but as an actor unfortunately not. Belle (talk) 07:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I must agree with the others; while notable for a couple roles(Bond films and Happy Gilmore) he is not very important to the field of acting. 331dot (talk) 09:41, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support this closure was premature, nominated at bedtime and closed before dawn in the US. The figure was iconic, and reader interest high. No one said subtleness of roles was a requirement for RD, which has plenty of space.
- We don't use "iconic" as an RD metric; it's "top of the field", and by all measures, Kiel was not close at all due to his limited role. Iconic but not important. --MASEM (t) 17:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
346,000 Views Today Kiel was certainly top of his field in "monstrous" character acters (forgive me for not finding a more PC way to say that). Again, closing this, overnight, with four opposes in about 6 hours while America was asleep is not seemly, and although I will be happy to support a no vote if tha's consensus, I am not happy to do so under current circumstances. A look at his huge TV and Filmography shows a legitimate reason for leaving this open a full 24 hours--otherwise users not familiar with the process will think a closure is like an ArbCom decision. Are we seriously afraid someoneone besides Joan Rivers will make it to RD? μηδείς (talk) 20:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Played one iconic role, and a bit role in Happy Gilmore. Not at the top of his field, or otherwise making a significant impact. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose only discussed because he was in two Bond movies, otherwise not significant, nowhere near top of his field, no objective evidence to the contrary. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:02, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest his over 70 TV and film appearances each with blue links (see his TV & Filmography) easily place him in the realm of Peter Lorre and Vincent Price. His physical disability seems to be the only reason he's treated as below first tier here. μηδείς (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- No, it's simply because none of those roles were considered top of the line for either film or movies. No nominations or awards to be listed. It has zero to do with his deformity, outside of the fact that he probably got type-casted for roles that called on it (turning that disadvantage into an advantage for himself). --MASEM (t) 02:35, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per pretty much all of the above. Regular actor who had a regular career. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Closed] Sir Donald Sinden

boldly close due to lack of interest from editors here (no template?) and very small readership compared to Kiel μηδείς (talk) 00:28, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Donald Sinden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29170107
Credits:

Nominated by
talk · give credit
)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD

.

RD: Leading British actor of stage, screen and TV.

talk) 05:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Weak oppose I considered this but couldn't really find substantive evidence that he could be considered top of his field. Sure a lengthy career and a couple of awards but nothing that indicates he was one of the best at what he did. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. Was he the best actor of his period? Probably not, but he was up there with the best of them and I think he qualifies as being at the top if not the very top. Thryduulf (talk) 10:04, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. A good actor, but not really a leader in his field, and with almost no profile outside the UK. On the other hand, the article looks OK. Formerip (talk) 10:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not seeing him as terribly significant or notable in his field. Challenger l (talk) 14:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 10

Portal:Current events/2014 September 10

September 10, 2014 (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Moro insurgency in the Philippines
:
- Bangsamoro and bring peace to Mindanao.(The New York Times) (Channel News Asia)

Timeline of the Iraqi insurgency (2014)
:
The
Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant to Syria in a televised address to the nation. (Reuters)(Washington Examiner)

Business and economic

Gold extends a fresh three-month low as a stronger
U.S. dollar sapped investor appetite for the metal. (The Wall Street Journal)

Disasters and accidents

2014 India–Pakistan floods:
- The Chenab River overflows its banks threatening Pakistan's Jhang District. (AP)

Sports

In American football, a law enforcement official tells the Associated Press that in April 2014, he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancée in an Atlantic City casino to the NFL office. This contradicts statements made by several league officials, including commissioner Roger Goodell, claiming they had not received or seen the video before it became public on September 8. (ESPN)
The first
Duchess of Cornwall. (BBC)

[Posted] Germanene

Article:

nanomaterial that is the germanium equivalent of graphene
News source(s): phys.org, natureworldnews.com

Credits:

Nominated by Abductive (talk · give credit)
Updated by Khamar (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The sources say this semiconducting nanomaterial will have an array of interesting properties and lead to many technological advancements. Graphene is now a $9 billion a year industry and led to Nobels for its discoverers. --Abductive (reasoning) 02:04, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose Technically the discovery of how to synth it right is fine, but that article target is a long way from being a target from the front page, more than just a few sourcing and other tweaks. --MASEM (t) 02:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Article is in better shape, though I would ask if it was possible just to distill a bit more what the uses of the material could be for at a slightly higher (read : broader audience) level. But that shouldn't stop posting of this at this point. --MASEM (t) 15:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Perhaps the discovery of Graphene was notable, the discovery of another very similar compound is not notable. The blurb you propose evidently bases germanene's notability off the mere fact it is 'similar to graphene'. Valiant Patriot (talk) 06:18, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the weakness of my blurb. I am not basing my claim of notability on the similarity to graphene; that was just to describe germanene. As with most of my nominations to ITN/C, I just like to bring these stories to people's attention. Abductive (reasoning) 06:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I created the stub to expand upon. This ITN candidate discussion occurred before I could return to the article. The work was far from suitable for the front page. I have now expanded the prose a bit and added a number of new references. The finding of methods for creation of high-quality films is significant; and could follow the path of previous Nobel-quality discoveries. -Kyle^(talk) 08:09, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Interesting discovery with good encyclopaedic value. The related materials of graphene and silicene are of major importance in the electronics industry, despite only having been discovered a few years ago. Germanium is the second-most-important semiconductor in the world, so this can be expected to have an important impact. The article is uninspiring to look at, but seems a good summary to me and is well-referenced. Modest Genius ^talk 11:35, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I added an alternative blurb. This could do with a little more support before posting. Modest Genius ^talk 11:28, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - interesting discovery.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support marked ready since we have "a little more support" and the discovery of a new allotrope of any element is interesting indeed. μηδείς (talk) 00:32, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posted The Rambling Man (talk) 07:20, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stonehenge

Article: Stonehenge (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  A hidden complex of monuments, including 17 wooden or stone structures, is discovered near Stonehenge. (Post)
News source(s): Telegraph
Credits:

Nominated by
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Nominator's comments: According to the source above, the survey that produced these finds was the "largest geophysical survey ever undertaken". --

talk to me 15:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Comment. Amazing what the right kind of
exposure can do. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Conditional Support as significant archaeological find, thought article doesn't appear updated to include this (also considered with lack of inline cites in some sections already). But of course we all know that Doctor Who found it first. --MASEM (t) 15:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support but a suitable update is required in the target article. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Over 1500 new bytes not enough for you? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:33, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's great but it's odd that it's all stacked into the lead, and then one sentence in the article. It's ass-about-visage. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to have been fixed; the lead now contains 1 sentence on the new research and there is a paragraph about it in the section "Archaeological research and restoration".

talk to me 00:41, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Comment. The target article, Stonehenge Hidden Landscapes Project, doesn't exist yet. Abductive (reasoning) 00:34, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
comment Stonehenge is a fine target. Creating a new article on this is fine too, but we've got a decent enough target... --Jayron32 00:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am afraid I must oppose on the grounds that the update provides little actual information, and more PR verbiage than I would care to see in an encyclopedia: "On 10 September 2014 the University of Birmingham released a video of current research being led by Vincent Gaffney that announced findings ... the four-year study is likely to provide digital information that will transform perceptions of use of the site dramatically, for both professionals and the public." Once that text is disregarded, what is left is a claim, unvetted by peer review, that there are 17 additional monuments, and that these are important somehow. Take a look at this GIS image of the new monuments. See all those other bumps, about 100 other monuments? Hmmm.... Abductive (reasoning) 01:18, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A few more media reports for you to consider: [33], [34], [35], [36]. I'm sure that update could easily be expanded. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Opposse on grounds that such a discovery is hardly newsworthy. If you type 'stonehenge discovery' into google with any year of your choice post 2000 you'll find a multitude of similar 'discoveries' regarding Stonehenge. Stonehenge has been discovered to death and that circle of rocks doesn't need ITN coverage. Valiant Patriot (talk) 06:13, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is a PR blurb promoting an ongoing archaeological investigation process rather than a newsworthy discovery. It's very interesting, but it's not really "news". Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:45, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those good people at BBC News at Ten might disagree with you! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:04, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If we judge newsworthiness by what story appears on TV news the most, Ray Rice and Roger Goodell would already be on ITN.--WaltCip (talk) 19:00, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the only metric, but it is a part of it. ITN reflects what is "in the news", on TV news or otherwise. 331dot (talk) 19:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - significant discovery.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 9

Portal:Current events/2014 September 9

September 9, 2014 (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
- The Dutch Safety Board issues a preliminary report on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 which crashed on 17 July. It finds that the aircraft was probably hit by multiple "high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside” indicating a missile. (BBC), (The Australian)

Disasters and accidents

2014 India–Pakistan floods
- The death toll from the floods rises to at least 205 in Pakistan and 200 in India. (AP via ABC News America)
At least nine people are killed as a roof collapses in a mosque in the low income neighbourhood of Daroghawala in the Pakistani city of Lahore. (AFP via ABC News Australia)
A massive explosion occurs at a chemical plant in the German town of Ritterhude near Bremen. (AFP via ABC News Australia)

Health

2014 Taiwan food scandal
- Products from at least 900 food makers are being recalled after authorities say a factory illegally used 243 tonnes of recycled waste oil disguised as lard, some of which may have been exported overseas. (Taipei Times) (Bloomberg)

Sports

Former Formula One driver Michael Schumacher leaves hospital in Switzerland to go home after a skiing accident last December. (AP)

[Closed] RD: Bob Suter

Consensus against.

Bencherlite^Talk 17:43, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Article: Bob Suter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Windorstar
Credits:

Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Very known in the US and should be around the world for that "Miracle on Ice" game. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:34, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Oppose Doesn't appear to be top of field - yes, being a member of the Miracle on Ice team is a noteworthy facet, but that's just one person, and didn't seem to have much of a career afterward. --MASEM (t) 03:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Masem. Meh professional career. Spencer^T♦C 05:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nowhere near top of his field: would set a dangerous precedent to start posting all Olympic gold medallists to RD when they die. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Doesn't seem to be "very important" to his field; he won the gold medal as part of a team, not individually, and his career doesn't seem particularly remarkable. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. He was one player on a notable team. Herb Brooks would get and RD perhaps. I don't think any of hte players on that team should though.--Johnsemlak (talk) 13:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Closed] iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch

No consensus to post, and further discussion will only bring out the fanboys. Step hen 02:01, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles:

iPhone 6 Plus and Apple Watch at an event in Cupertino, California. (Post)
News source(s): CBS News

Credits:

Nominated by
talk · give credit
)

--

talk to me 23:34, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Oppose Nothing groundbreaking here. (Well, I mean, as a tech person, I recognize the importance, but these are really just incremental improvements.) --MASEM (t) 23:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment By "these" do you mean all three or just the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus? Because the Apple Watch is a totally new product, not a new version of an old one.

talk to me 00:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Oppose Just another random product announcement. Reso lute 23:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose rather than do a
pointy counter nomination for the MotoX and Moto 360 announced two days ago. Now that Apple is down to 12% market share, can we please stop pretending that they matter? --166.205.55.41 (talk) 00:21, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Oppose - Apple is insanely good at getting the Sheeple to upgrade. They are even better at quickly removing a product from the market when it goes below an obscene cost and releasing a "new and improved" $800 piece of plastic. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 00:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm fine with oppose votes, but

talk to me 00:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Is it IDONTLIKEIT or ITSAGIMMICK? Either way the point being that there is no significance to this (or any, really) product announcement - Floydian ^τ _¢ 01:28, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and SNOW close. ITN is not a product announcement ticker. 331dot (talk) 01:32, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] Franklin's lost expedition

Article: Franklin's lost expedition (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper announces that one of the boats from Franklin's lost expedition has been discovered. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  One of the boats from Franklin's lost expedition, missing since 1845, is discovered off King William Island.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

The Rambling Man (talk) 15:02, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional Support My concern as this would be considered a scientific discovery of the verification (I know the article says photographs). I'm assuming it wasn't Harper himself but it would be nice if we had some authority to whom the group/people that made the positive identification; like for any other scientific discovery we'd rather see a peer-review publication to affirm before at ITN. I don't know if we need exactly that here, but I'd rather see details of the verification process before posting. --MASEM (t) 15:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. My understanding is that Harper has been searching for this expedition as a publicity stunt. This is concerning because politicians should never be given a free pass. Anywhere. Abductive (reasoning) 15:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- This article points out that Canada as a gov't is interesting in finding these ships as it would assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage (which due to ice cap reduction, is becoming a usable transport corridor). I can certainly sense a bit of self-importance in Haper's motives, but its hard not to argue that this would be of great interest to the overall of Canada to have control on that passage. But then, to me, this makes it more important that we have independent verification of the find. --MASEM (t) 16:40, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Honestly, placing your own POV on this story is a complete waste of time unless you're prepared to actually help with it. Alt blurb suggested. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:50, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Would we want to revise headline to say "The Canadian Government" - it's not Harper who found the boat but rather a government funded expedition. We don't need to follow Conservative Party of Canada communication guidelines / censorship policies -- Tawker (talk) 18:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure where it says that Harper found it himself? Curious interpretation. In any case, please see alt blurb (which anyone can suggest by the way). The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - The Conservative Party likes to refer to the current Ministry as being the "Harper Government", which causes some people to get rather sensitive about any mention of Harper at all - even when contextually appropriate as in this case - because of the supposed implication that Harper and the Canadian government are synonyms. That said, the ALT1 blurb is better whether you refer to Harper by name or the Government in general. Reso lute 00:33, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT1 no need to mention who found it but only that is was found. same as we do to the new plants and new animals discoveries. in other case, Canada discovered Terror near an IS-land, would be funny.
– HonorTheKing (talk) 19:46, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT Both the blurb and the alt is missing a "the" in "one of boats".WinterWall (talk) 22:32, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt1. Significant discovery, agree with comments about the blurb. Reso lute 00:33, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posted Step hen 02:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] 2014 Pakistan - India floods

Duplicate nomination, see September 6. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:15, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article:

floods in India and Pakistan.
News source(s): Hindustan Times New York Times

Credits:

Nominated by Prateekmalviya20 (talk · give credit)

--Prateek Malviya^•✉•✎ 05:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 8

Portal:Current events/2014 September 8

September 8, 2014 (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Taliban insurgency
- A
  suicide bomb attack kills the police chief of a district in southern Kandahar Province in Afghanistan. (Tolo News)

War in Donbass

Pro-Russian rebels release 1,200 prisoners under ceasefire deal. (BBC)

Arts and culture

Duchess of Cambridge are expecting their second child. (BBC) (Wales Online)

Business

Sweden's AB Electrolux, the parent company of the U.S. brands Electrolux and Frigidaire, buys General Electric's appliances business for $3.3 billion. (Reuters)
American food manufacturer General Mills buys organic food producer Annie's Homegrown for $820 million. (CNBC)

Disasters and accidents

2014 India–Pakistan floods
- More than 160 people have died and thousands are stranded in one of the worst floods to occur in 60 years for India's Jammu and Kashmir. (NDTV)
Hurricane Norbert (2014)
- The remnant of Hurricane Norbert causes heavy flooding in the state of Arizona leading to the declaration of a state of emergency and causing one death. (CNN),

Health

It is reported that nearly one thousand children have been hospitalized with respiratory illnesses in several U.S. states. (USA Today)

Politics and elections

Speaking in Edinburgh, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Gordon Brown sets out a timetable for transferring more powers from Westminster to the Scottish Parliament in the event of a No vote in the forthcoming independence referendum. (BBC)

Sports

2014 US Open
- Men's Singles. It is Čilić's first grand slam victory and the first time since 1998 that there have been eight different winners of the grand slam singles finals. (BBC)

In
Revel Atlantic City casino. (AP via Seattle Times)

[Closed] 2014 US Open – Men's Singles

Duplicate nomination. Lihaas (talk) 06:52, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article:

2014 US Open – Men's Singles. (Post

)
Credits:

Nominated by Lihaas (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on

WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: History has een made...and the est ever Asian tenis player.. --Lihaas (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Been decided that this is grouped with the Women's Singles as done in the past (see below). --MASEM (t) 23:47, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Closed] RD: S. Truett Cathy

No consensus to post. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:31, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: S. Truett Cathy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Nominated by
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)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

talk to me 12:25, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Oppose - Chick-fil-A is not even in the top 5 US fast food chains, nor was Cathy one of the 10 richest people in the USA. I'm not sure in what sense that puts him at the top of his field. AlexTiefling (talk) 13:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Colonel Sanders maybe. Gamaliel (talk) 13:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree on above assessments of not really being the top of their field, Chic-fil-A does not have anywhere close to the market size as McDs . --MASEM (t) 14:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Barring recent appearances in the news due to the highly controversial remarks and opinions of the ownership, the company itself does not carry much lasting notability, and by extension, neither does the founder.--WaltCip (talk) 14:37, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Outside of Atlanta and South Florida, Chick-fil-A is a footnote to the rest of the US, as evidenced by this map of their locations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.95.216.224 (talk) 16:24, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support for RD, not full blurb I must digress on this matter from the five opposition arguments. Just last year, CFA (Mr. Cathy) bested KFC (Mr. Sanders) in terms of sales in the United States. Business Week, CNN Money, The New York Times CFA is the No. 9 top fast food chain in the United States, where we are the undisputed founders, kings and champions of fast food, is a tremendous accomplishment. QSR Magazine To boot, it has done so with a greatly reduced number of units. This proves loyalty to the brand by beating KFC with just 37 percent of the restaurant locations that KFC has at its disposal. So, I take it by your comments above Mr. Sanders would not even be eligible for RD if you hold that same criteria to Mr. Cathy. For your information, I don't particularly like Mr. Cathy's politics, but his chicken sandwich restaurant is the little engine that could as compared to KFC.AdditionSubtraction (talk) 03:56, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The first criteria states "or had a significant contribution/impact on the country/region". CFA is the biggest chicken fast food restaurant in the United States in terms of sales, and it beats goliath KFC in just six days of operation instead of seven. So, significant impact on region of the Southern United States made.AdditionSubtraction (talk) 05:14, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - KFC does $23 billion in sales, CFA does only $4 billion. Abductive (reasoning) 07:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - You probably confused KFC's global sales number with its US sales numbers. Last year, CFA pulled in $5 billion while KFC only did $4.22 billion[37]. WinterWall (talk) 07:51, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - The U.S. sales numbers would be more significant compared to the global sales number if we were a U.S.-based encyclopedia. We are not. We are a global encyclopedia. 128.227.222.83 (talk) 12:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        "Please do not ... complain about an event only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." --Jayron32 14:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- For purposes of "in their field", we're not going to be cutting the bounds of the field to force inclusion. The argument that he ran the largest chicken fast food restaurant (whether true or not) has no impact on whether he ran the larger fast food restaurant. Otherwise, I can see people start to nominate RDs for things like the CEO of the larger Chinese fast food, or Mexican fast food, etc. And don't get me into other industries where the possible bounds can be gamed even more. --MASEM (t) 13:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - You mean people like #RD: Gustavo Cerati? –H T D 13:39, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Not really. To get there you go : musician (broad category) --> Latin American musician. For this, you need business leader (broad category) --> fast food CEO --> chicken fast food CEO. --MASEM (t) 14:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - FWIW, "Gustavo Cerati" isn't mentioned at "
        Latin American music". That said, there are very few names, such as Enrique Iglesias, mentioned in that article. So it's musician (broad category) --> Latin American musician --> Argentinian musician, where are pal Gustavo shows up. –H T D 15:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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September 7

Portal:Current events/2014 September 7

September 7, 2014 (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

2014 Iraq conflict
:
- The United States launches new airstrikes on ISIS in western Iraq, in an effort to protect the Haditha Dam. (Fox News)

Disasters and accidents

A small plane carrying ten people from
Amazon jungle, with "little chance of finding survivors". (News24) (eNCA)

Science

Asteroid 2014 RC makes a close approach to Earth at 0.1 Lunar Distances (0.000267 astronomical units (39,900 km; 24,800 mi)) at 18:01 UTC (Yahoo News)

Sports

2014 US Open (tennis)
- Serena Williams of the United States wins her third straight US Open women's singles title tying with Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova for the number of grand slam singles wins. (CBS Sports)
- American twins
  ATP World Tour titles as a team. (AP via ESPN)

In North American basketball, Bruce Levenson decides to sell his interest in the Atlanta Hawks after confessing to sending a racist email back in 2012. (USA Today)

2014 US Open

Articles:

men's singles at the US Open.
News source(s): Huffington Post

Credits:

Nominated by
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)

Updated by Lihaas (talk · give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed on

talk to me 00:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

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Should we not cover both men's and women's results in the same blurb? (Yes, that means we need to wait a day)? --MASEM (t) 00:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that is what we usually do; this is also ITNR. 331dot (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We usually post the Women's once it's known, then modify the blurb to add the Men's once that happens. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Muboshgu is correct. They are both ITN/R. If the women's singles is ready, that can be posted and the men's singles added later. Neljack (talk) 22:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as TRM notes, we'll need the results more than just a table w/o sourcing before the women's can be posted. --MASEM (t) 22:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose until the article is more than just tables and a lead with no inline references at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but the draw pages like
2014 US Open – Women's Singles are always just a lead and then tables (the general references or external links to the official results support the whole draw so inline references are not needed). We usually bold the main tournament article. The men are done. I have added a suggested altblurb like 2013. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

The men's singles was nominated separately but now refers to here. I have changed the section heading to not mention gender. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support The blurb should be as follows: At the
Men's Doubles title, for the fifth time.AdditionSubtraction (talk) 04:19, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

The article still needs some referenced prose. This should of course go up as soon as that is available. Use the alt blurb - AdditionSubtraction's is too long and contains unnecessary details (doesn't matter how many they won before). Modest Genius ^talk 10:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I sourced it per your "referenced prose" in the lead section. BLURB: The US Open in tennis concludes with Marin Čilić and Serena Williams winning the men's and women's singles titles respectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdditionSubtraction (talk • contribs) 23:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - BLURB TWO: The women's singles.AdditionSubtraction (talk) 23:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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September 6

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September 6, 2014 (2014-09-06) (Saturday)

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Russian military intervention in Ukraine
:
In an official statement,
Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kyivan Patriarchate, says that Russian President Vladimir Putin has fallen under the spell of Satan and faces eternal damnation to hell unless he repents. (Reuters)

Syrian Civil War
:
The
Ar-Raqqah, killing 25 people. (Reuters)

The
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. (Business Standard)

Disasters

Heavy monsoon rains and flash floods leave over 200 people dead across India and Pakistan. (AP via NBC)

China says two pilots conducting fighter jet take-off and landing tests for the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning were killed during trials. (AFP via Yahoo)

2014 California wildfires
A wildfire is reported to have burned 300 acres near Yosemite National Park, forcing the evacuation of 700 nearby homes. (ABC News)

Health

West Africa Ebola virus epidemic
:
Sierra Leone declares a four day nationwide lockdown to attempt to stop the spread of Ebola. (CBC)

Law and crime

Mohammed Morsi and nine others for leaking sensitive government information to Qatar. (Reuters)

Politics and elections

2014 Scottish independence referendum
A surge for the yes-campaign following the TV debate Scotland Decides: Salmond versus Darling culminates with a poll from YouGov and The Sunday Times showing that a majority will vote in favor of Scottish independence. (YouGov)

Sports

Auto racing
In the
Chase for the Sprint Cup. 6-time and defending champion Jimmie Johnson is briefly treated for dehydration following the event, and one spectator was arrested for disorderly conduct after climbing the catch fence surrounding the track during the race. (ESPN)

Monsoons and Flooding in Asia

Article: Climate of Asia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  More than 200 people are killed in monsoons in China, India, and Pakistan. (Post)
News source(s): CNN USA Today Fox News ABC UPI
Credits:

Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: This seems notable because of the large death toll. Andise1 (talk) 06:49, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support subject to a suitable update. Affecting a huge number of people, and a large death toll. Neljack (talk) 07:20, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support Once the related article appears. Brandmeister^talk 07:35, 7 September 2014 (UTC) PS: As an alternative, I'd support the 2014 North Indian Ocean cyclone season or something like that if those rains were produced by this stuff. Brandmeister^talk 21:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional support Story is ITN-worthy, no question. Not thrilled with the current article target and would rather see something like "2014 monsoon season" or something with a more narrow focus to highlight the specific damage of these storms. --MASEM (t) 14:24, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question for someone with a better understanding of tropical cyclones in Asia. Is this story a combination of the 2014 North Indian Ocean cyclone season and 2014 Pacific typhoon season among others, or do we just not have an article for monsoon seasons? Also, if we were to post a story like this, which I don't remember ever doing, shouldn't we wait for the end of the relevant cyclone season? Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 15:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose unless this is being attributed to one storm. μηδείς (talk) 18:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semantic note: If this is used, "More than" would probably be better than "Over". Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, as a contributor ~~and an admin~~, you can make this trivial change yourself. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.
Talk To Me 00:50, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Question. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but are the present deaths unusual in some way? In 2013, flooding in India killed 5000+; in 2011, flooding in Asia killed 1800; in 2010, floods killed 1600 in Pakistan and 1000 in China; in 2008, flooding killed 2400 in India. Poor people living in underdeveloped countries are often vulnerable to flooding. Are we talking about an event that is unusual in some particular way, or is this just what often happens during the rainy season in Southeast Asia? If the latter, then ~250 deaths actually seems like a better than average year for that part of the world. Dragons flight (talk) 22:33, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Df, that's basically my point above. It's like saying the flu killed 2500 last winter in NA. It wasn't one outbreak of one strain over a one week period in Rochester. μηδείς (talk) 02:10, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As far as i know there were no tropical cyclones affecting India, Pakistan or China over the last week or so. What i believe has happened is that two areas of low pressure have dumped a significant amount of rain on India over the last week during the monsoon season.Jason Rees (talk) 03:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Would you say it would be comparable to
May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak then? In that while torandoes + damage in the midwest US is common during the spring/summer months, the 4 days of intense activity was extraordinary ? This is why I think a separate article to talk about this specific system would make sense for the target here. --MASEM (t) 03:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Comment
2014 Kashmir floods article is dealing with same topic. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 03:12, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Support, the total amount of water that was dumped in the region is so enormous that this will cause problems for the next few weeks. It will slowly make its way to the more densely populated South where the rivers the water is in meet with the Indus river. This problem is probably going to be smaller but of comparable order to the 2010 Pakistan floods. Count Iblis (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would support
2014 Kashmir floods once it's quality is at par for main page. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Conditional support worst floods the area has seen in half a century, [38] between this and huge death toll clearly significant enough for ITN. But the article needs a considerable amount of grammar work.
talk to me 18:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Comment I nominate another news related to this with another blurb and with
related topic. Please also observe that.--Prateek Malviya^•✉•✎ 07:53, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

[Closed] Iran and US

Discussion not for ITNC. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:58, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Nergaal (talk
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Why do you choose to not use the template to make nominations like everyone else does? If you want a news story to be on the main page, please use the template when making nominations and fill it in with the relevant information. Andise1 (talk) 19:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you are not formally nominating something, but just want to discuss it, please use the talk page. 331dot (talk) 22:25, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 5

Portal:Current events/2014 September 5

September 5, 2014 (2014-09-05) (Friday)

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Armed conflicts and attacks

War in Donbass
:
The government of Ukraine and pro-Russian rebels agree to a cease-fire, fighting continues after the announcement. (Reuters)

Somali Civil War
:
Moktar Ali Zubeyr was killed in an airstrike on September 1. (Reuters)

Arts and culture

Israeli President Shimon Peres meets with Pope Francis at a time of mounting tension in the Middle East. The last meeting between the Pontiff and the Israeli leader came in June, when the Pope invited Peres, along with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, to join in a prayer service for peace. (Reuters)

Disasters and accidents

A privately owned
cabin depressurization (see also) and crashes 14 miles off the coast of northeastern Jamaica. (Reuters)

International relations

Iranian air traffic control requires a plane chartered by
US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan to land over issues with the flight plan. (The New York Times) The flight later resumes without further incident. (Reuters)

Politics and elections

Outgoing Slovenian prime minister Alenka Bratušek is formally nominated by Jean-Claude Juncker as the country's EU commissioner despite resistance from the prime minister-designate Miro Cerar, and according to several European media she is slated to become a Vice-President of the Commission. (Slovenia Times)

Ceasefire in
War in Donbass

Article:

Ukrainian conflict (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NYTimes

Credits:

Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Clearly important point in the Ukrainian conflict. Note that this is from the official levels - everyone seems to be expected pockets of resistance to this. --MASEM (t) 16:04, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

obvious support to replace the ongoing, but wed need some concrete details as to the terms. Also just rebels would work (a la usage for Syria)Lihaas (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Article now up-to-date. I support this blurb. RGloucester — ☎ 17:24, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changed my mind. Clearly not much of a "ceasefire" at all. I now oppose inclusion, per TRM. RGloucester — ☎ 21:09, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

- Yeah, that's better than when I nominated. I know details of these specifics are still not big yet, but that primes the article for those when more come in. --MASEM (t) 17:28, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose not a single one of these cheesefires has been in good faith, it's just an incremental war, like Hitler's, from 32-39. Putin's will obviously be quicker in this case. But the article itself is not an objective self-contained encyclopedic event. The ongoing status is well merited and this development supports it but any blurb is premature. μηδείς (talk) 00:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Again, that type of thinking is crystal balling it. Yes, it might not hold, but the fact there was a formal cease fire agreement is the news and until it is officially broken, that's what we go with. --MASEM (t) 01:12, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Crystal balling it is declaring it is serious and significant ahead of time while it's ongoing and several past such promises have been worth hovno. We have already seen such promises fail. (THanks Eugen μηδείς (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC)) There is already an "ongoing" section. Unless the ongoing section is being nominated for deletion (and I may have missed that) there's no need for a separate this week's pretense. μηδείς (talk) 02:31, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, removing that is part of this nom. --MASEM (t) 02:33, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification, User:Masem. As it stands, I think the status quo is fine, and we can either update with "Russians remove troops from Ukraine" when it happens or leave this as ongoing until either actuallity changes.

What ceasefire? [39] - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 14:03, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As noted in my nom, and by reports on the ceasefire, it was unlikely that all violence would immediately stop, due to the nature of command structure and the conflict here. The key is the ceasefire is still agreed to on paper. --MASEM (t) 14:11, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment would be absurd of us to post "agrees to a ceasefire" which has already been "shaken" by shelling. Suggest this item is parked until we get further information. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cheesefire As we now know, the fighting is still continuing. As in the Israel-Gaza conflict earlier where countless cheesefires were broken by either side, the same is happening here. ITN really should take these announcements with a few more grains of salt than it is currently. Valiant Patriot (talk) 22:39, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] 2014 Wales summit

Not a place for a discussion, try a nomination instead. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:46, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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How come nobody nominated this yet?

Nergaal (talk) 11:38, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Because no one has. Are you doing so? 331dot (talk) 14:14, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SOFIXIT. So far they haven't actually done anything except pose for a lot of photo opportunities, so I'm not sure what the news story would be. I suppose there might be an announcement this evening when the summit ends. Modest Genius ^talk 15:46, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Generally notable international gatherings of leaders like this get at least a shot as posting; the news seems focused on the creation of the rapid response force and other initiatives dealing with Russia/Ukraine. 331dot (talk) 15:55, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support posting a blurb related to this. It's a pretty high level gathering of powerful heads of state and there's been a chorus of very harsh criticism of another large state, a kind that is unusual.--Johnsemlak (talk) 16:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

oppose generic post. When something notably concrete comes out of thefinal ommunique then we an see. (if the focus is eukraine then teres a nother blurb abovev)Lihaas (talk) 17:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose cut and paste a template and fill in the relevant information. μηδείς (talk) 02:33, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 4

Portal:Current events/2014 September 4

September 4, 2014 (Thursday)

Disasters

Monsoon rains in Pakistan kill more than 40 people. (Channel News Asia)
In the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir, over 60 people are feared dead from floods. (Indian Express)

Health

2014 West Africa Ebola virus outbreak
:
- The Ebola death total in West Africa exceeds 1,900, according to the World Health Organization. (BBC)

International relations

The two-day
Newport, Wales, begins. Leaders agree to apply further sanctions on Russia. NATO sources claim that there are "several thousand" Russian troops inside Ukraine. (RTE)

Politics and elections

Juncker Commission
- European commissioner. (EU Observer)
- Following pressure from
  Corina Creţu as the country’s new candidate. (European Voice)

Arts and culture

For the first time in sixty years, a new
Harold Bluetooth. (The Copenhagen Post)

Comedy legend Joan Rivers dies at age 81. (New York Times)

2014 Zenica mine disaster

Article: 2014 Zenica mine disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  At least five miners are trapped underground after a mine collapses in Bosnia. (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

Nominated by
talk · give credit
)

Nominator's comments: It is still uncertain if the five unrescued miners are dead or not, so I decided not to put "believed to be dead" (or something like that) in the hook. --

talk to me 19:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Neutral First, we need the article updated, the link above says 29 have been rescued but the article does not state that; I'm also worried if this can be expanded any further beyond what's given, making the article better as part of something like Mining accident (or some closely related page) Second, assuming the worst that 5 miners died, I'm not sure if on the scale of the larger world that's really significant. I know we've posted mining incidents in the past but usually when the rescue effort is prolonged (The Chilian one comes to mind). Hence I'm neutral on this, as we've overlooked larger earthquakes that end up with death tolls less than 10 in the past. --MASEM (t) 20:01, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: article now clearly says "five were killed". Mercifully low death toll, but in my view therefore not worthy of front page coverage unless unexpected developments occur or more notable details are revealed. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Barring new information, this doesn't seem significant enough at this time- I'm not even sure an article is warranted in the first place. 331dot (talk) 21:27, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless there's some indication of foul play or an other extenuating circumstance its a risk of the business. μηδείς (talk) 04:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose not a great article, not a massively significant news item. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:01, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dreadnoughtus schrani

Article:

Dreadnoughtus schrani, is discovered in southern Patagonia. (Post)
News source(s): Nature New York Times BBC Popular Mechanics CBS News The Guardian Sydney Morning Herald

Credits:

Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Seems notabe enough for ITN. Andise1 (talk) 07:48, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support, new dinosaur species always make good ITN items. Especially as big as this one. I'd go with "Discovery of a dinosaur is announced"-type of wording. --Tone 08:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It appears that article was started on August 22, suggesting this is stale. Abductive (reasoning) 17:04, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- It looks like the mainstream media is only picking up on the story now, the scientific press had this back in August. --MASEM (t) 17:30, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - According to the official report from nature.com, the discovery was published yesterday. Also, I believe the general article is "Dreadnoughtus" (which was around before this finding) and the new, specific name (which has just been discovered) is "Dreadnoughtus schrani". Andise1 (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support, appears to be significant archeological find, backed by peer-review source (Nature) --MASEM (t) 17:30, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - significant discovery. sourced. definitely for itn.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - per above supports. International interest, decent article, good news coverage. A refreshing item, and if a photo is available that would be a plus. Jus da fax 19:40, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support, a good story to include. Prioryman (talk) 22:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support once it's cleaned up (the "Etymology" section, at least, is very nearly copied from the paper). This would also be a good opportunity to highlight the featured articles
[majestic titan] 04:16, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Support It's a no-brainer (they didn't find the skull). Andrew (talk) 11:00, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support once the duplicated section is sorted out. This is definitely a significant discovery. Challenger l (talk) 02:37, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support- "Biggest dinosaur ever"s don't get discovered every day. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 03:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In principle, support, but for now oppose until the copyright tag has been dealt with. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Crisco. Supporting an item with a copyright tag is a no-brainer fail I'm afraid. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Gustavo Cerati

Article: Gustavo Cerati (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: RD only (has been under medical care for a few years so more a matter of waiting); appears to be important musician in Latin American circles including winning at least one Latin Grammy award. --MASEM (t) 20:08, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Opposed I am not opposed as such but the article has been tagged for four years, and there is no section that points to any accolades that make a judgement possible. If the tags are removed and something more than one grammy can be demonstrated I may happily support. μηδείς (talk) 04:15, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support the guy is widely known in Latin America, but as long as the article remains with trouble, it should not be posted. Diego Grez (talk) 05:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support widely recognized as a major influence in
Rock en Español#Internationalization (1980s). His death made headlines in all major Latin American Newspapers (Chile, Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Venezuela, Uruguay, Ecuador Bolivia, Argentina and so on] + Two days of official mourning in Argentina (1). 190.190.185.246 (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]
- Some Eng-lang based recongnitions: Billboard, Argentina's Grammy-winning Gustavo Cerati dead at 55 (Reuters), NBC, Dailymail, LA Times, Hollywoodreporter w/mention of international accolades 190.190.185.246 (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose solely on article quality. Surely worthwhile to put on RD, however the article itself has major issues which we should NOT put on the main page. Referencing mostly; larges swaths of the text have no references at all. Fix the article, and you can consider this full support. But unless and until that is done, it should not appear on the main page. --Jayron32 09:34, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on article quality. It really needs a lot of work. Otherwise he looks significant enough for RD. Challenger l (talk) 02:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose terrible article, a shame that some of those who support the nomination and who are prepared to seek out references aren't prepared to actually work on the article. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:04, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment In case you are referring to my former participation in this thread, providing useful links for those interested: I wish I'd had the time to work a revamp of the article, when needed. I did not. In any case, I don't feel ashamed for trying to collaborate with WP as much as possible. Maybe you were overreacting. Salut, 190.190.185.246 (talk) 17:33, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say you should be ashamed, I said it was a shame. Maybe you misread. Salut. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Joan Rivers

Article: Joan Rivers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: RD only; died at old age at complications from a heart attack at 81 --MASEM (t) 19:03, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Support Meets DC as a leader in her field. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:14, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD only, obviously. Secret ^account 19:17, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support for RD, given her varied and lengthy (continuously active) career. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:25, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support meets RD criteria, one of the top US female comediennes. Mjroots (talk) 19:33, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support definitely meets the criteria, article just about meets what is needed. Marked as ready. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Marked Ready (ec) well updated [40] and incontrovertibly notable. μηδείς (talk) 19:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posted so sue me. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please may you explain this comment, The Rambling Man?

WP:NLT applies. 86.158.181.1 (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

99% sure this was a Joan Rivers-ism (or at least a Rivers-like quote) that TRM is citing and in no way a legal threat or attempt a such. eg it is a humorous addition. --MASEM (t) 22:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it refers to the fact that he supported it and posted it anyway(which I have zero problem with). 331dot (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's normal policy that an obvious nomination with four immediate supports, no opposes, and that meets all other requirements, is subject to immediate posting by an independent admin. In this case someone might have made a complaint there was an appearance of irregularity, but on further analysis it would have been found the action was correct. μηδείς (talk) 03:44, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly

WP:SNOW is the link you are after. GoldenRing (talk) 05:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Post-posting Support, She died of a medical mishap, not old age, and the media were intently following her travails before her death. Abductive (reasoning) 22:00, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DEAR dear...someone had to have the last laught.v. In her own ords: "getting what they deserved". "you know what the Chinese say cookie? beware what you wish for"Lihaas (talk) 11:34, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just toclarify for posterity, there is a 2 senetence update on her death from yest....and it apparently is reason enough for an ITN update. (per precedence now set)Lihaas (talk) 11:40, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the update encompasses all of what's been happening these past few days, from the surgery to the medically induced coma to the death. – Muboshgu (talk) 12:17, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support full blurb. Rivers, even in her 80s, was still active in her field and died of a botched surgery -- not old age. She was a significant figure in her field as well.
Talk To Me 11:48, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Oppose blurb, keep RD. While she did not "die of old age", people in their 80s are at a higher risk of dying, due to medical procedures or otherwise. She had been in the hospital on life support for a week (I think) which means it wasn't entirely unexpected, either. I don't think she warrants a blurb on those grounds or due to her career(she was not the greatest comedian of all time). 331dot (talk) 11:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, keep RD She was old, her death wasn't expected, but nonetheless she was in critical condition for several days, and also the sheer degree of american and euro-centrism with regard to blurbs is audacious in my view; she is virtually unknown outside of the US and some European countries. JDiala (talk) 13:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: does a long life, and/or health issues, in some way mitigate or reduce the notability of an entire career? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:47, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to the opposition to a blurb on the grounds that she was old and/or ill, generally RD is for posting the deaths of notable people, while a blurb is for deaths where the death is newsworthy itself. While her death is getting a lot of attention, that is largely due to her celebrity status and not the suddenness/unexpectedness of it. Occasionally we also post a blurb when the deceased was essentially #1 in importance in their field, too(which I don't think Rivers was). 331dot (talk) 14:10, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To compare this to another recent situation, I feel the Robin Williams death was a step above this in terms of ITN. Granted that's a subjective opinion. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

hmmm...pseud-subjective. is not doubt RW was miles above notability to this boadLihaas (talk) 17:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Brain to brain communication in humans

No prizes for guessing what I'm thinking here about this nomination's prospects.

Bencherlite^Talk 23:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Damn! at least a barnstar? ;)Lihaas (talk) 09:17, 5 September 2014 (UTC) [reply

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Article: No article specified
Blurb:  For the first time, neuroscientists transmit a message from a person's brain in India to three people's brains in France. (Post)
News source(s): EurekAlert Science Alert cnet Daily Mail
Credits:

Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I wasn't sure what the correct article to link was so if anyone knows a suitable article feel free to add it to the blurb or suggest an altblurb. Andise1 (talk) 06:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. If you look up the actual article in PLOS One (alarm bells ringing straight away there), rather than relying on the 'science' reporting of the Daily Mail (!) of all places, you'll see why I opposed. It has a three paragraph 'results' section, which contains very few actual results and is very light on any quantifiable data. Basically, a dressed up press statement, which may or may not be entirely composed of bovine excrement. (EDIT:Technically not even a nomination, since there is no article linked) Fgf10 (talk) 08:20, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- What precisely do you have against PLOS One? It's a perfectly legitimate peer reviewed journal. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, no. By their own admission "publish first, judge later". Have you seen the kind of crap that's in there some times? Perfectly good stuff as well, but you wonder why it didn't go into a proper journal if it was good enough. Especially stuff like this does them no favours at all. But that's beyond what we should be discussing here. Fgf10 (talk) 22:58, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. What an excellent way to get people's attention on ITN. Daily Mail notwithstanding, an interesting experiment, employing Bacon's cipher. And using "thoughts" in the sending process. But, as far as I can see, does not count as "communication" in any meaningful sense. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I transmit thoughts from my brain to other people's brains every day. I'm doing it now (No! Not that thought! You can't do that with an eggwhisk, you'll be arrested!) The blurb is also implying that it's the first time they've done it from one person in India to three people in France, when I'm assuming it is the first time they've done it at all. The blurb would need reworking at the very least, but the story sounds dodgy anyway. Belle (talk) 08:58, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This doesn't appear to be the first time this has been done see here, for example, for a pretty much identical study from last year and the distance involved doesn't seem to mean all that much, since the system uses the Internet. Formerip (talk) 12:03, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose A coherent, complex image? maybe. A yes-no signal? no. μηδείς (talk) 19:41, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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September 3

Portal:Current events/2014 September 3

September 3, 2014 (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine:
- The
  Andrey Stenin has been found dead in Ukraine. It was discovered that he died 4 weeks ago. (RT)
- Ukraine claims that the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and the President of Russia Vladimir Putin have agreed to a "permanent ceasefire". Russia later denies these claims. (AFP via BrisbaneCourier-Mail), (ABC News Australia)
- France halts delivery of the first of two Mistral-class amphibious assault ships to the Russian Navy due to circumstances in Ukraine. (BBC)
Syrian Civil War
:
- A spokesman for the
  American journalist Steven Sotloff being beheaded is authentic. (Fox News/AP)
- A spokesman for Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirms that Sotloff was a dual citizen of Israel and the U.S., a fact that had been concealed during his captivity, including by Sotloff himself. (USA Today)

Business and economy

Pharmacy chain CVS Pharmacy announces it will change its name to "CVS Health" and cease marketing tobacco products. (KPIX)

International relations

The President of the United States visits Estonia in a move to reassure the Baltic states ahead of a NATO summit in Wales. (CNN)
Palestinian President
Palestinian refugees. Mahmoud Abbas said that he rejected that offer. (Times of Israel)

Science and technology

Two species of dendrogramma, found off the coast of Australia in 1986, are discovered to be unclassifiable in any existing phylum. (Guardian)

[Posted] Dendrogramma

Article: Dendrogramma (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Two species of dendrogramma, found off the coast of Australia in 1986, are discovered to be unclassifiable in any existing phylum. (Post)
Alternative blurb:  Newly described dendrogramma specimens may represent a previously unknown phylum of animal life.
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Nominated by Mr. Stradivarius (talk · give credit)
Updated by Mercurywoodrose (talk · give credit), Plantdrew (talk · give credit) and Prioryman (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This discovery may lead to the creation of a new phylum, which would be a significant event for the science of biology. To see how rare and interesting of an occurrence this is, take a look at Dendrogramma#Reactions, which says it better than I ever could. --— Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:17, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~Post-posting Weak Support (eta due to updated blurb to indicate "may") I was looking at this last night to add to here (the event that a new phylum is a rare event, maybe 4 times per century), however, this story is basically saying that the only samples they've found of Dendrogramma appear to be a new phylum, but the samples, due to how they were stored, were ruined genetically to be able to make the assurance that this was a new phylum and that fresh samples, stored in a manner as to not ruin the DNA, would be needed. And that's not something that's going to happen overnight. (Even the peer-reviewed paper this is in ends on that effect; all microscopic signs point to a new phylum but they can't state that 100% without the DNA to test). --MASEM (t) 13:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Well, actually, the DNA would not confirm this as a new phylum, but just allow its placement in the tree of life. It's certain this critter's body plan (body plans are where scientists like to erect phyla) is very unusual, and ITN posts taxonomically uninteresting new species so why not a new phylum? Abductive (reasoning) 17:09, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My issue is that it is not confirmed yet. Yes, the chances that it is a new phylum based on its biological structure appears very strong, and it wouldn't have been published in a peer reviewed journal if that wasn't a very strong theory. But they can't put it into the books that it is one yet, they need samples uncontaiminated by formaldehyde or ethanol so they can do the generic profile and verify it is sufficiently different from the two other nearby phylums. And importantly, the authors of the paper themselves caution "we think this is new but we need more samples to test"; it's not a random skeptic throwing doubt at this. --MASEM (t) 17:33, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

- I will add in light of the comments below is that the only reason my oppose is that right now is of the doubt that the researchers themselves had. This is an ITN item if there was more surety to the claim, when we compare to other stories that we post (eg we don't post merges when they are announced but after they are completed) If other editors are fine with posting this now, then that's fine, as the story should be posted ITN at some point. --MASEM (t) 20:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support regardless of lack of DNA, the physiological uniqueness alone justifies the erection of a new class or order, both of which would merit posting. μηδείς (talk) 19:44, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support while I understand Masems argument these are nonetheless highly interesting new species, which in my opinion is enough to post them already. Also current blurb doesn't actually suggest that they necessarily belong to a completely new phylum so there is no problem there either. SeraV (talk) 20:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Highly unusual new organism, whether or not it ultimately gets recorded as a new phylum. I've suggested an alternative blurb that I think works a little better. Dragons flight (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Alt Blurb with "specimens of the genus Dendrogramma" is supported. This really should go up now unless there's a complaint that we don't post new species. μηδείς (talk) 03:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, the alt blurb looks better than the one I thought of. I won't mind at all if my suggestion isn't used. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:17, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support with the alt blurb. Prioryman (talk) 07:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posting altblurb with a slight modification. I am not sure about the picture, all the small text is hard to see in 100px. --Tone 08:30, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 2

Portal:Current events/2014 September 2

September 2, 2014 (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Islamist insurgency in Nigeria
:
- Dozens of people are killed as Boko Haram captures the town of Bama. (Reuters)
Somali Civil War (2009–present)
:
- At least six people are reported killed after a U.S. drone strikes a convoy of vehicles believed to be carrying senior members of the militant group Al-Shabaab. (Al-Jazeera)
Sinai insurgency:
- Eleven Egyptian Army soldiers are killed in a roadside bomb attack in the Sinai Peninsula. (Al-Jazeera)
Terrorism in Saudi Arabia:
- Saudi Arabian authorities announce they have arrested 88 people on suspicions of being part of an al-Qaeda cell and plotting attacks inside and outside the kingdom. (Al-Jazeera)
Syrian Civil War
- ISIL releases an Internet video showing the beheading of American journalist Steven Sotloff. (Washington Post)

Iraqi insurgency (2011–present)

The United States sends an additional 250 US troops to protect American personnel. (Fox News)

Law and crime

Former Kenyan presidential candidate Quincy Timberlake is charged with murder in the Australian city of Brisbane. (Brisbane Times)
The
nude photos of Jennifer Lawrence, Kate Upton and Ariana Grande, among others. (MTV)

Politics and elections

The
party currently holds the majority. (Economic Times)^{[permanent dead link}
]

[Posted] Gorham's Cave

Article: Gorham's Cave (talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Archaeologists announce the discovery of possibly the world's oldest piece of abstract art (pictured), attributed to Neanderthals, in Gorham's Cave, Gibraltar. (Post)
News source(s): http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/02/neanderthal-abstract-art-found-gibraltar-cave
Credits:

Updated and nominated by Prioryman (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Lots of news about this today (see [41]). I've persuaded one of the archaeologists who excavated the find to upload an image of it for us to use. The discovery is unique (thought to be the only known example of Neanderthal abstract art) and the story behind it is interesting, and certainly a change from the run of the mill in ITN recently. --Prioryman (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - A groundbreaking discovery in the field of human evolution by an international team of researchers led by Prof.
Gibraltar Museum, a renowned palaeontologist and an authority on Neanderthals. --Gibmetal 77^{talk 2 me} 20:35, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Comment. Looking at the sourcing, both the dating of the engraving and its status as "art" (as opposed to having a purely functional purpose) seem uncertain. So I'm reluctant to support this. I'm also reluctant to oppose a nomination from an editor who has secured a good, relevant CC image. So I'm just leaving this comment here for other editors to take into account. Formerip (talk) 23:59, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A significant discovery, and thanks to the nominator(and the archaeologist) for the image. 331dot (talk) 02:42, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Encyclopedic subject matter, academic impact, internationally reported, and an image even!128.214.53.18 (talk) 04:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, as usual, this sort of thing has been found before: Bacho Kiro engraved bone. (drawing here) Abductive (reasoning) 06:36, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's a good science/history story, oldest or not. We can also go with: "Archaeologists announce the discovery of engravings (pictured), attributed to Neanderthals, in Gorham's Cave, Gibraltar." --Tone 08:41, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - and post soon. academic impact.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:34, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Article in decent shape, news is from peer-reviewed paper source. Just waiting for someone to try to figure out how they could claim copyright on these images. :) (FWIW, while there is potential copyright of the 3D-nature of the work for the photographer, the uploader appears tied with the discovery and has licensed them freely, so no issues with including the image here). --MASEM (t) 15:48, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Posted Step hen 23:42, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Ongoing:
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

Okay, so it's a huge and cumbersome article, but with the alleged second beheading today of another American, and with mass executions and accusations of ethnic cleansing we should have something on the ITN section. It's sub-optimal, but this article is vaguely up to date. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:08, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment support the general idea that we should mention ISIS under ongoing but do not support the article title (ISIS), would support an alternate neutral title like - Iraq conflict etc. Legaleagle86 (talk) 19:20, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Definitely - it's perfect for ongoing, each day seems to be a pretty major story. CaptRik (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support comparable in history to Beer Hall Putsch, Occupation of Rhineland. μηδείς (talk) 19:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - definitely.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support I don't normally comment here, so please forgive the intrusion. I've noticed for a while now that this huge story has stayed off of the main page. This is an important current event and definitely belongs in the Ongoing section. If the IS article is insufficient, there are other articles that could be linked if necessary.-RHM22 (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support — When article updated. Sca (talk) 21:32, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Ypnypn (talk) 00:54, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- definitely need something on this. It's been a glaring omission for a while. It seems to me that the target article could be substantially improved simply by forking the History and Timeline sections off into separate articles; the rest seems fairly reasonable. GoldenRing (talk) 01:21, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Clearly a major news story of international significance. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 01:23, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Posted - Consensus is clear. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:46, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[Withdrawn] RD: Norman Gordon

Withdrawn by nominator. 331dot (talk) 14:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Norman Gordon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): REUTERS
Credits:

Nominated by Nathan121212 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see

WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The world's oldest test cricketer died at 103. --Nathan121212 (talk) 13:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Which of the
recent deaths criteria does this man meet? Is he important to cricket just for being old? His career doesn't seem particularly remarkable(though admittedly I know little of cricket). 331dot (talk) 13:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply
]

Oppose No evidence of being a leader in his field (cricket). Being the oldest X is not sufficient. --MASEM (t) 13:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose a minor cricketer I'm afraid, nowhere near the top of his field. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:57, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw I'll admit that a best of 7 runs in test cricket is not that impressive unfortunately. Nathan121212 (talk) 14:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

September 1

Portal:Current events/2014 September 1

September 1, 2014 (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Pakistan unrest
- Pakistani protesters armed with sticks and stones clash with police in the centre of Islamabad after protests calling for the resignation of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif turn violent. All schools in the capital have been closed as a result of the clashes. (Reuters via Yahoo! News)
- The Pakistan Television Corporation goes off air after protesters storm its headquarters. (BBC)
2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine
- Ukrainian forces battle pro-Russian rebels near Luhansk International Airport. The area is encircled by the pro-Russian forces for over 3 weeks. (BBC)
- Valeriy Heletey, Ukraine's Defence Minister, accuses Russia of launching a "great war". (BBC)
Four people are arrested after an attempted bombing in Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport. (CNN)

Law and crime

A gunman shoots dead two people and injures a third at the Work and Income office in Ashburton, New Zealand, before fleeing on a bicycle. The town is locked down for seven hours while police search for and apprehend the suspected gunman. (NZ Herald)
Mohammad Reza Rahimi, former Iranian vice president, is convicted to a prison term for his role in the 2011 embezzlement scandal. (Al Jazeera)

Ongoing: Pakistan anti-government protest

Article:

talk · history · tag)
Blurb:  Pakistan anti-government protest (Post)
Alternative blurb:  Pakistan unrest
News source(s): NYT, Guardian, ToI, BBC

-- Legaleagle86 (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply

]

Nominate under ongoing category. The article is well updated, the unrest is ongoing, has been covered by numerous newsoutlets etc. and has also been mentioned in the wiki Current Events portal. The unrest is important because it may lead to change in government and has already led to hundreds of casualties. Legaleagle86 (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Support~~. ~~For Ongoing; alas another area of conflict, let's include it with the others.~~ Mistook the "unrest". Let's change that to Oppose until the protests grow, spread, or have more of an effect. Rhodesisland (talk) 09:41, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose- This is not "another are of conflict", it's protests. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 00:33, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose at this time. If the change in government occurs,(or worse) that might be ITN worthy and would have a specific blurb to hang our hat on. I don't think it's a broad enough conflict for ongoing yet. 331dot (talk) 02:44, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose nothing since 1 September? Not ongoing. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:05, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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