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Archived discussions
A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.
Current discussions
- Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
March 17, 2024
Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern African Music & Sound
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern African Music & Sound (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
New "WikiProject", arbitrarily created by one user within the past few days with absolutely no discernible evidence of any consensus that there was any need for it. As always, WikiProjects are not free for just one user to create on a whim, and need some kind of broad consensus for their creation and use -- but although it was technically "proposed" by the creator per Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Southern African Music and Sound, its proposal generated absolutely no discussion whatsoever, and then the creator just proceeded to create it themselves anyway despite the lack of any discussion, and there's no evidence of any actual participation beyond the creator. They've also created a bunch of empty project categories without filing anything in any of them, which is not standard process either -- and even if such a project were warranted, "music & sound" isn't the name that would be expected for it anyway, since it would be a subproject of "WikiProject Music", not "WikiProject Music & Sound". A WikiProject is a group of editors, not a group of articles, so there would need to be evidence that numerous editors are participating in it, which I can't find. Bearcat (talk) 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are relevant discussions about the proposals process at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council; I invite any interested editors to join them. The bottom line is that we are in the process of re-writing the proposals system. This was the last proposal made under the "old" rules.
- I do not suggest deleting these pages. Userification would be preferable. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Userfy. Deletion is overkill, especially if they were following the instructions. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:35, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nomination seems unnecesarilly cantankerous, especially as creator made an effort to follow the established process at the time. Agree with userfy — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
March 15, 2024
Draft:One Piece: Part I
Wikipedia is
- Now there's Draft:One_Piece:_Part_I_(fanfic) too. Q T C 22:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as web hosting by non-contributors. Review of the history shows that the edits to the page have all been made by Brazilian IPs, sometimes IPv4, sometimes IPv6, that have apparently only used Wikipedia to maintain these pages. Since IP addresses are assigned dynamically by ISPs, these pages are probably the diddling of one human. If these pages were in user space, they would be U5. It would be silly to keep similar pages in draft space that are the diddling of an unregistered editor. There are also a few other pages that are more of the same. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:53, 16 March 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete per nom and Robert McClenon. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Draft:One Piece (fanfic)
Wikipedia is
- Delete as web hosting by non-contributors. Review of the history shows that the edits to the page have all been made by Brazilian IPs, sometimes IPv4, sometimes IPv6, that have apparently only used Wikipedia to maintain these pages. Since IP addresses are assigned dynamically by ISPs, these pages are probably the diddling of one human. If these pages were in user space, they would be U5. It would be silly to keep similar pages in draft space that are the diddling of an unregistered editor. There are also a few other pages that are more of the same. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:54, 16 March 2024 (UTC)]
- Delete per nom and Robert McClenon. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Apple S9
Redirect with same name already exists on Wikipedia. No point in keeping this one as the one in the mainspace redirects correctly while this one doesn't. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 00:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Apple silicon. Redirects are cheap and useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Robert McClenon I think you misunderstood. There is already a redirect in the mainspace with this exact name that redirects correctly. However, this one that is a draft does not. What I am saying is that we delete the non-working "draft" redirect whilst keeping the one in the mainspace. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 14:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- User:Mseingth2133444 - No, I did not misunderstand. I am saying that the draft should be redirected to Apple silicon in the same way as the title is in article space. I am saying that the title in draft space should redirect correctly, in the same way as the title in article space does. Redirects from draft space are cheap and useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Understood. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 20:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- User:Mseingth2133444 - No, I did not misunderstand. I am saying that the draft should be redirected to Apple silicon in the same way as the title is in article space. I am saying that the title in draft space should redirect correctly, in the same way as the title in article space does. Redirects from draft space are cheap and useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Robert McClenon I think you misunderstood. There is already a redirect in the mainspace with this exact name that redirects correctly. However, this one that is a draft does not. What I am saying is that we delete the non-working "draft" redirect whilst keeping the one in the mainspace. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 14:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
March 13, 2024
Draft:Qayaamat Se Qayaamat Tak
Another editor created a page called Qayaamat Se Qayaamat Tak on 10 March 2024, so the draft is redundant. Maybe there should be a history merge before the draft is deleted.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:30, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Redirect to the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Constellation
- Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Constellation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
I'm nominating this LTA report I've created in the past. I don't think this spam network is big enough to have it's own report, eventhough it spammed many xwikis for some time before gubernatorial elections in Russia and then stopped. I'll let the community decide on what to do with this now unactive LTA case. A09|(talk) 16:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Assuming no one opposes, you could tag it for speedy deletion under G7 (author requests deletion). Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 00:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)]
- Weak Keep - Even if there was no need for the LTA report, there is also no need to delete it if it is correct, and its correctness does not seem to be in question. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Draft:System Requirements for MS-DOS Based Windows Versions
- Draft:System Requirements for MS-DOS Based Windows Versions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Against the purpose of Wikipedia. Article consisting purely of Windows System Requirements and adds no encyclopedic value. No reliable sources cited. LLMs are not a reliable source. Deletion looks uncontroversial to me. Edit 1: Also add potential original research and weasel words to the issues. The fact that the draft might be going against
- Delete per nom. Catfurball (talk) 15:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Bduke (talk) 05:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 09:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: how long will we have to wait until this discussion is closed? Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 23:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - It's a draft. See NDRAFT. Drafts are not checked for notability. Deletion is controversial because keeping the draft should be uncontroversial. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)]
- Sorry, @Robert McClenon, but I think you misunderstood. I am not nominating for notability, I am nominating for LLM misuse and because it goes against what Wikipedia is not. It is also unencyclopedic, going against the purpose of Wikipedia. Last time I checked, drafts are checked for the latter two criteria. Mseingth2133444 (talk/contribs) 03:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - User:Mseingth2133444 - Seven days. What's the rush? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep average draft.—Alalch E. 11:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Old business
Everything below this point is old business; the 7-day review period that began 13:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC) ended today on 19 March 2024. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion below this marker may be closed at any time without further notice. Discussions that have already been closed will be removed from the page automatically by Legobot and need no further action. |
February 22, 2024
Wikipedia:Brion Vibber Interviews
Ancient junk from 2006 of no actual historical value. If kept rename to Wikipedia:Brooke Vibber interviews. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Not junk. Historical and valuable. No issue with moving or renaming. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Delete. I finished the transcription at the subpage:Wikipedia:Brion Vibber Interviews/MySQL Conference April 26th 2006.—Alalch E. 02:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)]- @WP:BROOKEDAY for context), add the link to the transcript to that line, and delete the here nominated one-entry index?—Alalch E. 13:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)]
- I moved the subpage to Wikipedia:History of Wikipedian processes and people/2006 Citizen Valley interview of Brooke Vibber.Wikipedia:Brion Vibber Interviews can be deleted.—Alalch E. 19:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Mark Historical if of little or no current value. There is no harm from keeping if useless, and there is possible harm to deleting if useful. This is more likely to be useful than a lot of the historical cruft in Wikipedia space, but it should all be kept if there is no actual need to delete. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:09, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Robert McClenon The page nominated for deletion is just a page with a link to Wikipedia:History of Wikipedian processes and people/2006 Citizen Valley interview of Brooke Vibber. It has no content and no real incoming links. The content about Wikipedia history (which is not the same as historical content) is at the page containing the interview transcript. —Alalch E. 15:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. As has been noted, this page just contains a link to a separate page. However, this on its own does not mean that it should be deleted, or that its existence is not helpful/valuable. Because it seems to be (in effect) a soft redirect page, I have assessed it based on the Redirects are cheap, and I can't see how the continued existence of this page would be harmful. Per Robert McClenon,Similar to SmokeyJoe, I have no issue with moving or renaming. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 01:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
[t]here is no harm from keeping if useless, and there is possible harm to deleting if useful
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- As was already pointed out by the nominator, the name of the nominated page WP:R#K4 would no longer have any bearing. For example, that reason not to delete is about not "breaking incoming or internal links" and in the esoteric scenario of this page being kept, moved, and treated as a redirect, links would be broken, so from the vantage point of that outcome as the consequence of applying RKEEP #4, when RKEEP #4 is thus applied it negates itself. —Alalch E. 02:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)]
- And when SmokeyJoe !voted to keep, circumstances were different, and surely his !vote was about the actual transcript which was at that time a subpage of the nominated page, and deleting the page would also automatically lead to deleting the subpage unless something was done in the meantime (something was indeed done). So it is understandable that he would want to preserve this historically valuable document, and, surely, what he referred to by "historical and valuable" is not the text "These are transcriptions of Brion Vibber's interviews" and a single link, but what is linked to, as the subpage. —Alalch E. 02:49, 6 March 2024 (UTC)