Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1144

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Hi there! What's the procedure for removing editnotices? I blanked one

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EpicPupper: Hmm, good question. I'd ask at WT:Editnotice if there's nothing on that page about it. You might be breaking new ground if it hasn't been considered before. Beyond deletion or blanking, there's the third option of the expiry parameter of {{editnotice}}. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

19:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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RogueShanghai: Hello Shanghai! You can post a neutrally worded message stating that there is an RfC going on for that subject to a related Wikiproject's talk page. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:08, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Would something like Wikiproject Music or Wikiproject Musicians work? and should i use a template to notify people on that wikiproject? thank you ^-^

talk to me

17:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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RogueShanghai: WIkiProject Musicians would probably be more appropriate. I think you could use {{Rfc notice}} in this case. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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WP:APPNOTE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 21:30, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Can someone review Derek Mackay here an IP editor has added comments about courses at Glasgow twice with out any sources, I have tried reverting but dont want to enter into an edit war. Regards --Devokewater ^(talk) 20:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I found another source and reworded based upon the source. I hope that works for both of you.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Glasgow University? The BBC artcles etc seem to be based on what Mackay has told them. Devokewater ^(talk)

09:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Devokewater, We've got two sources that state that he attended the university. Had he actually graduated, I think it would be easier to confirm, though.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:58, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Glasgow University assuming the IP editor was correct, + where he studied social work. --Devokewater ^(talk)

21:42, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

For reference - Draft name - 'Draft:Sobhan Mukherjee' ; Draft link - 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sobhan_Mukherjee' ; Anonymous Atronauch (talk) 12:02, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

The draft is at Draft:Sobhan Mukherjee. To submit it for review, add {{subst|submit}} to the top of the draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:12, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@Anonymous Atronauch, Welcome to the Teahouse! It seems you never submitted the article for review, this isn't done automatically.

Based on sources like [1][2] it seems that your subject meets the demands of

WP:N

. However, as currently written, there are some problems.

Many sections have no refs, and seem to be based on personal knowledge. These have to go, please read

WP:AUTO. WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing

may be of interest.

The article is supposed to be a summary of the

WP:RS that can be found, anything else is mostly outside WP:s scope. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 13:34, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) In addition to the above, here are some concrete examples of the problems.

His was a typical bengali family, he carries on his social works gathering strength from his mother's memories, etc. are not objective facts about his life.

A lot of sentences are turned in a laudatory manner, as the struggle of one courageous hero and their close friends/relative against a hostile environment. That may well be true, but that is not how we write about it here. Have a look at the article for Mahatma Gandhi for inspiration, you will see that all the events are described in a down-to-earth manner. For instance, Gandhi was arrested on 10 March 1922, tried for sedition, and sentenced to six years' imprisonment., rather than The vicious British state apparatus decided to remove the inspiring hero from public life. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 14:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Dry, dusty and bland is often the right way. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

"Inspiring" is not a word that should be used to describe encyclopedic writing. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 00:03, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

I am trying to change the name for RABI so it appears like - RABI (artist). How do I fix this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RABI

Romanstuff (talk) 00:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC) Romanstuff (talk) 00:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @

casualdejekyll

00:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I edited the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gazeta_e_pavarur. Please review and let me know if there is anything I need to revise. Thanks! Junuzsalihi99 (talk) 19:34, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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Apmh

19:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@Junuzsalihi99 I looked at your three-sentence draft article, and then saw that all the information in that draft is found in your first reference. Unfortunately that reference is the "about page" of the newspaper you are writing about. Wikipedia doesn't want to know what Gazeta e pavarur has to say about itself, it wants to know what references that have no connection to Gazeta e pavarur have to say about the newspaper. Your first and last references are not useful for your article because they are both written by the newspaper itself.

These are the only references written in English and, since English is the only language I can read, I don't know what the other references have to say about Gazeta e pavarur. Do any of those references tell more about Gazeta e pavarur, such as when it was founded or how many people read it? Has it ever won an award? More information would help show it is notable.

Since this draft article has been declined four times I would suggest you continue to work on trying to improve the article before it is reviewed again. Show that you have read that past reviewers have stated that the references "do not show that the subject qualified for a Wikipedia article" and that you have done a lot of work to improve your draft, and you are showing why your references are showing that Gazeta e pavarur is worthy of a Wikipedia article.

There may not be many English Wikipedia reviewers that read multiple languages, so it may be helpful to find at least a couple of references written in English, but not anything written or published by Gazeta e pavarur, for Wikipedia wants to know what reliable source not connected to the newspaper have to say about it. Good luck on improving this article so that no other reviewer tells you the references "do not show that the subject qualified for a Wikipedia article." Karenthewriter (talk) 01:47, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm just curious I'm reading a book on Wikipedia titled Wikipedia: The Missing Manual from 2018 and I am wondering what is the average, min, and max of admin edit counts? 

No idea about the average (I'd guess somewhere in the 10k-100k range), but the lowest and highest edit counts that I am aware of are Lustiger seth (725) and Ser Amantio di Nicolao (4591220). —Kusma (talk) 03:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this statistic is a bit misleading: Lustiger seth contributed 43,723 edits to DE Wikipedia. Using the same logic, one could note that administrator Lustiger seth has only 27 edits on RU Wikipedia. Anton.bersh (talk) 10:43, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Lustiger seth is not an administrator of RU Wikipedia, though.

casualdejekyll

19:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Fair point. Where can I see whether person is admin or not on a particular Wiki? Anton.bersh (talk) 10:50, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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casualdejekyll

00:29, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Special:CentralAuth/Lustiger seth gives a table of edit-count and admin-status on every WMF site. DMacks (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

ScientistBuilder

,

Edit counts are constantly changing and increasing. At what point in time do you want this data? Edit counts for individual editors can be seen by clicking on Edit Count at the bottom of an editor's contributions page but not every editor enables this feature. Editors in different user classes are not tracked for edits. Admin statistics can be found at User:JamesR/AdminStats and are updated on a daily basis but they don't include edit counts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:44, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Edit count is not a meaningful measure of user's experience or contribution. I would recommend reading Wikipedia:Editcountitis (it's a humorous essay, but the points are valid). Most users with very high edit counts employ some level of automation. Anton.bersh (talk) 10:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

You can get a comparison of administrator admin actions (not edits) with this tool. You can get editing statistics for individual admins with this tool or this tool. The last one only has limited data if the user does not sign up to it. I don't know of any tool that compares all admin edits. SpinningSpark 11:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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ScientistBuilder: You could also look at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits and focus on those users that have "Ad" in the "User groups" column. GoingBatty (talk

) 16:23, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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talk

) 22:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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ScientistBuilder: no, there is nothing like that. Becoming an admin is (ideally) a function of sound judgment and the community's trust in an editor, which cannot be guaranteed at any raw number of edits. Writ Keeper ⚇♔

22:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't want to become an admin by the way because you have to deal with vandalism.

talk

) 22:46, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Is there something like an admin for a WikiProject?

talk

) 22:46, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, @

ScientistBuilder:! No, most WikiProjects are fairly informal: they serve more like a bulletin board where people can coordinate work on articles related to a topic. I personally use them mostly for content assessment tables when I want to find something to improve. Anton.bersh (talk

) 10:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi ScientistBuilder, not all admins are needed to deal with vandalism, we have admins dealing with copyright violations, the DYK queue, spammers, AFC and several other places where you are unlikely to encounter vandalism. As for edit counts and adminship, it used to be said that if you haven't become an admin before your 10,000th edit you were unlikely to make admin. Nowadays I'd be as surprised at someone passing in their first three thousand edits as I would be if someone passed in their first 12 months of active editing. Oh and as for admins for Wikiprojects, MILHist elects some people, but I haven't heard of any other Wikiproject doing so, though whether this is a matter of MILHist scale or culture I wouldn't be sure. ϢereSpielChequers 00:48, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

I had a look with the API. Excluding 4 adminbots (Edit filter, ProcseeBot, ST47ProxyBot, TFA Protector Bot) and one 'rename' (Khaosworks101), you get this: Count: 1,050; Min: 725; Max: 4,598,060; Mean: 75,218; Median: 35,931 -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 16:51, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Is there a way to be an admin and mostly focus on editing well and less vandalism patrol, or is the role of an admin to enforce the pillars of Wikipedia?

talk

) 20:48, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

This is a controversial point, actually. The thing about RfA is that it's a horrible, terrible, place. At least in my opinion. The thing about adminship is that it's kind of biased to those people who work behind the scenes - simply because it's much more useful to them. There's a reason they call it the mop, you know. Admin tools are mainly used for cleanup rather then actual writing, and if you just want to write, then there's very few uses you'd have for the toolset. (Not that everything admins do is vandalism patrol - there are many many many many other things admins do as well.)

casualdejekyll

00:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

According to User:JamesR/AdminStats, in Wikipedia history more than half of all admins have never blocked a single person. But when asking for a toolset, people are going to ask, "why do you need that and what are you going to do with it?" -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 00:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

According to that same source there have been 4,257 admin accounts, about two thousand admins more than we think. Some of those are stewards, WMF staff and others with admin rights, but hundreds of the accounts with 1 or 2 admin actions allocated to them are non admin accounts with an admin action credited to them due to a bug. There are also an unkown number of admins from the early days who performed all their blocks before December 2004, but at least one admin action afterwards. Unless things have changed since I last looked into those stats and admin history, that bot has no access to admin logs from before Dec 2004. There may also be some accounts that got the mop to do something that we have since unbundled such as Rollback. I looked into this several years ago to check the myth that lots of people pass RFA and then never use the tools. As I remember it the myth was pretty much busted, and new admins who don't use the tools are very very rare. However, adminstats does make it look as if we have lots of never active admins. ϢereSpielChequers 19:03, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks WereSpielChequers. I had better look. Of current admins, 53 have made zero blocks, and only half have made more than 179 blocks. 61 have never protected anything. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 00:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

It should also be noted that there are also a lot of former admins, a number that has been growing much faster in recent years due to a change in policy where inactive accounts with the admin tools are de-adminned semi-automatically; we also have a number of former admins who have either voluntarily given up the tools, or had them taken from them. Furthermore, many of the things the admin bit allows are unlogged actions, especially for things like editing through protection and the like; there are likely several admins who "use" the toolset every day, in the sense that they couldn't complete their tasks without it, but who do not regularly block or protect or delete things. --Jayron32 17:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

The edit filter is a bot? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:47, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Not really, but the edit filter owns an account (

User:Edit filter) which it can use to block and change user rights (theoretically, long story). It's described as an admin, sort of: Special:UserRights/Edit filter. -- zzuuzz ^(talk)

00:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

The grammar needs improvement. Fijipedia (talk) 17:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

As does the tense used. This is a list of defunct/finished services, as far as I can see. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:45, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I have to ask, is a list like this really needed? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

ofc its not needed. The same goes for the entire wikipedia. TzarN64 (talk) 18:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Does it fall under one of the things listed in

WP:N? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:10, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes it is notable and i made sure it had enough content to be an actual page. TzarN64 (talk) 18:15, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I am not finding any other list like that here or here. Besides the guidelines already mentioned, this seems to be a

WP:INDISCRIMINATE issue to me.–CaroleHenson (talk

) 20:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I just noticed that there's an article and section that seems to have some of the same info at Wii#Third-party applications. Perhaps anything that isn't already in that section could be similarly summarized - and then the info would just be presented one time.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I made my best article yet

I used your guys criticisms and i improved it! The page is List of streaming services for the Nintendo Wii. TzarN64 (talk) 00:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

List of streaming services for the Nintendo Wii  melecie  t

- 01:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Not gonna comment on the value, since it's a topic that I know nothing about (because it really doesn't interest me), but I notice that in your "sortable" table, in the columns about dates, the sorting is alphabetical by name of the months, which is not really helpful. Also, does the column on references really need to be sortable? Uporządnicki (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi. I am trying to post some short research I did on wikipedia and while it says that I have posted it I cannot seem to be able to search for it. Any ideas what I have done wrong? thanks.

Ali Aanowroozi (talk) 01:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @

casualdejekyll

01:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I do not see anything relevant in your contributions at Special:Contributions/Aanowroozi. Here are few possibilities:

1. It is very unlikely (but possible) that the article was deleted already (without any prior warning on your Talk page at User talk:Aanowroozi). If the article was deleted, you would see a notification. If you did not get any notification, then probably it was not deleted.
2. Is it possible that you forgot to log in and edited as an IP user?
3. Is it possible that you forgot to save it?

Also, if you write about your own work you might have

draft process and not posting it into main space just yet. Anton.bersh (talk

) 01:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

As a new editor, important to understand that "Publish changes" means Save, not publish as an article. David notMD (talk) 10:37, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Aanowroozi: you have uploaded File:FINAL Some parameters of the Universe February 23 2022.pdf, but this is not how articles are created on Wikipedia. MKFI (talk) 11:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I currently work on Zabbix and want to add details from the reputated | US Gov National Vulnerability Database since the article is self-promotional so far and I want to add critical and reputable sources. This database can be an important source for a lot of software articles to establish the security of software. In this case the database contains entries of research done by independent security researchers. But I struggle to find basic information how to handle this source even I read the obvious guidelines. I have the following questions:

1. How to handle information coming from databases on Wikipedia?
2. Are information coming from databases usually considered primary? Secondary? Tertiary?
3. How to trigger a discussion and inclusion to Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources and does it have any chance of success?
4. How to cite databases? Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Links_and_ID_numbers mentiones IDs but I don't know how I cite a NIST-NVD entry like 'CVE-2017-2824' via citing templates.

GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 02:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, GavriilaDmitriev. The external link you provided does not work for me, so I cannot comment on this specific database. Most databases are primary sources because they consist of a large number of entries in a highly structured and standardized format and rarely include the characteristics of a secondary source, which includes an author's analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. You mention "entries of research done by independent security researchers". If these "entries" meet the standards mentioned above,then perhaps they are secondary sources. Unless this particular database is widely cited and debated on Wikipedia, then an entry in perennial sources is not justified. For citing it, I recommend Template:Cite web. Cullen328 (talk) 03:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Cullen328 and thank you for your reply. I've read it and appreciate it. I fixed the original link (formatting issue) and would like to provide a specific example here. You can consider this database as an index which leads to further links and details. In this example under References to Advisories, Solutions, and Tools which contains a link to https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts-announce/2020/11/msg00039.html you can find an independent entity which includes the characteristics you mentioned. That is my opinion though and I would love to hear your opinion about it in case I might misjudge it. That is the reason why I am posting here in the Teahouse to learn to differentiate those cases better.

You might reply why I don't use this example link not as original source then. It is because it backlinks to the database I mentioned and it's easier to start from the official ID. As I said this is specific to the topic Software Security but is still applicable to almost all articles of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Software/Free and open-source software task force

To your point widely cited and debated on wikipedia: I repeat that it is important for software related parts of wikipedia. The database already has a wikipedia article. What do yuou consider the best part to getting it's usage discussed/standardized/templated? I'm fine if the result is a no, but I would like to hear more input on how and why. GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 06:04, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

punched cards, and a class on Systems analysis where we were advised to always maintain a paper based backup system for any computer based business applications. In other words, I am not up to date on software matters except as a consumer. That being said, the things you have linked to look to me like primary sources. That is not a bad thing. Such sources can be useful but must be used properly. You seem to think that a positive listing on perennial sources is some kind of "stamp of approval" that a source must achieve. That is incorrect. That list is for an assessment of sources that editors have repeatedly disagreed about. Unless there is a history of ongoing disagreement, there is no reason to discuss this source there. If you believe that the source is reliable, feel free to use it until another editor objects. If you believe that the source is unreliable, then do not use it, and move on to something else. Cullen328 (talk

) 07:18, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Right, while "Lulu Press" is on the list, you don't find, say, Oxford, Cambridge or Yale university press. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

• @GavriilaDmitriev: There is the template {{CVE}} to cite CVEs by number, which links to the CVE website.

CVEs are more than a raw database, as each entry has a summary description of the vulnerability. I would say those descriptions are usually reliable, but you can ask at

due weight. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)}

12:29, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

❤️ Thank you so much. That was the primer I needed! GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Icosium

Hi, I think it is you that added sources in the Wikipedia article about ISOSIUM , especially "Diocese of Icosium". I am trying to translate this article in French and I think this source is now suppressed . Is it true ? Thank you for your answer. Sincerely yours.

--Joisy78 (talk) 11:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Joisy78--Joisy78 (talk) 11:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC) Joisy78 (talk) 11:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

• It is not very clear what question you have, Joisy78.

If you think a source was removed from the article (linguistic note: suppress/supprimer is a false friend, "suppressed" translates to censurée, for supprimée you want "removed" in this context), you can check out the history of that article.

If you want to contact a particular editor, you would usually ask on the talk page of the article (Talk:Icosium) or the talk page of that editor (but then you need their username). Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 12:49, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

What are the rules on using United States military documents as sources? Would they be allowed as straight forward statements of promotions, transfers and awards received or would there be some kind of conflict of interest? In this case I am talking about this order here [3] regarding the subject of an article I am writing. Could I use this to confirm his transfer to the Invalid Corps? Thanks in advance, Gandalf the Groovy. 

Hi @

casualdejekyll

14:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Gandalf the Groovy Looks ok-ish to me (at least as a source that the order was given), but consider getting input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 14:25, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Ooh, yes!

Gandalf the Groovy WikiProject Military history is a group project of users who specialize in military history and wars; not only are they one of our most active projects, they're really good at what they do, too! You can ask them any military-specific questions and you're bound to get good and specific answers. Panini! • 🥪

14:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm doing basic structuring of my userpage. I'm quite happy with the current userboxes but I would like to fix the formatting of the TWA badges - I'm open for design suggestions. I know the badges aren't meant for the userbox although I think this may be the best place for them. Any ideas of improvents? Feel free to change it on my userpage directly first and then discuss with me here. I posted this already here in Teahouse but received no help GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 05:55, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @FormalDude for improving my issue with those boxes. Is it maybe possible to have the column in the same width as the userboxes? Because then it's exactly how I imagined it to be. Currently it's still exploding the layout. GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 10:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't think that's possible. Another option would be a collapsible table in the body of your userpage. ––FormalDude talk 10:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

GavriilaDmitriev, I have no idea how I acheived this and I cannot relay this information to you (tables are confusing!), but I've organized your badges into a collapsed table and crammed it into your infobox, under your userboxes. Please let me know if you're still envisioning something else, and I'll do some further head-scratching to get it to work. Panini! • 🥪 14:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Panini! Thank you for the edit! But I have to admit that my initial intention was to keep the two columns and to have it shown at all times. So the previous state was more near to what I had imagined 😀 GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 14:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

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Vukky actually has a single userbox that says that you have all of the TWA badges which not only is more in the same style as most other userboxes, but should help reduce the amount of userboxes you have. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

GavriilaDmitriev, I took another crack at your idea. Is this what you mean by being the same width as the userboxes? The word "Communicator" is messing with the table shape due to its length, but it roughly matches the infoox size. I also aligned it on the right. Panini! • 🥪 15:12, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Since there's an odd numer of badges, I had to get creatiev with the "TWA Badges" title as well. Panini! • 🥪 15:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

That is great! Thank you ❤️

Good thinking of you GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 15:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello i made a edit [[4]] and used a worldcat.org link for Andrew McGregor source, military history, instead of a wiki library link that contains the info, question how do you use the library link for the article? When i tried using it, an error came up (supposedly because of ebsco). Thanks Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 00:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Your reference looks good to me and you do not need to include a link to the source at all. References do not need to be accessible online. People should be able to find it (if they are allowed access). I managed without the link by searching The Wikipedia Library. However, if I try linking to the url from which I got access but from a Wikipedia reference I don't get a result either. It is probably to prevent unauthorised access. Thincat (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I just added a Cast section to the stub article

Hello Pete Best Beatles, and welcome to the Teahouse. You added a link Margaret Hamilton, which is a disambiguation link. The correct link to add would be Margaret Hamilton (actress). Same for William Forrest (which should be William Forrest (actor) Kpddg ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I have now fixed it in this edit. Kpddg ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:19, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kpddg Thanks. To figure it out, should I have just checked each link until I found ones that didn't link to regular pages? -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 16:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Most often it's people's names (multiple people with same name), but there are surprises. For example,

Egg as food is another. David notMD (talk

) 17:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Pete Best Beatles: Under "Appearance" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets you'll see an option to "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". --David Biddulph (talk) 19:31, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I've been doing research to attempt to get another image that could be used, if needed, for the Claremont Fan Court School page. I've been in touch with the owner of the image and he had a few questions: 1. "Can you make sure it’s marked so it says the copyright belongs to me, and that it can’t be used by anyone without prior consent from myself?" 2. "Or do all Wiki images have to be in the public domain?"

He has given me the image to upload if I want. What would be a good way of uploading it with the correct permissions? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 23:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

As a rule, images do not have to be in the

certain conditions are met, we can use non-free media, but one of those conditions is that there could be a free version, so pictures of currently-existing buildings almost never meet them). Usually the easiest thing is to take a picture yourself, or find somebody who is able and willing to take a picture and then upload it and donate it to Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk

) 00:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:NFCI. All of the terms and conditions must be followed precisely. Cullen328 (talk

) 05:42, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine: and @Cullen328: Thank you for your response. I've reached out to the copyright holder of this image and he's willing to donate the image to Wikipedia. However, I don't think he has any knowledge of how to upload the image himself to Wikipedia. Is there any way that I can do this on his behalf and supply you with any relevant information needed? If so, I've done some reading and is the first step for me to upload the image and secondly, what initial license should I apply to it? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 12:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

See WP:Donating copyrighted materials. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@David Biddulph This is my first time uploading an image on behalf of the person who owns the copyright. The image can be found at this website: https://www.horizonimaging.co.uk/blog/new-schools-case-study-added-to-website/. However the image itself is a lower resolution image without the trademark signs on the bottom of the picture. In regular emails he has given me permission to upload the image on Wikipedia and freely shared on his behalf. 1. Does Wikipedia need another email of written consent or could I upload the image as if "I represent the copyright holder"? 2. Would I just do my best and then at the end, if I went through the process incorrectly, I could delete the image and start over? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 15:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Archivingperson, the only person who can freely license a copyrighted image is the copyright holder. A casual email is not enough to give you the authority to do it because you are not the copyright holder. You can assist that person but in the end, they must go through the legal formalities. Please read Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission and follow those instructions carefully. You cannot cut any corners. Cullen328 (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cullen328 Thanks for the information. I have just uploaded this image (Claremont Fan Court School from the air.jpg) with a category for the Claremont Fan Court School page to Wikipedia Commons. My next step is to get full permission from the copyright holder (which I have, but I understand it needs to come from him). 1. If he is computer savvy, would the quickest way be for him to go through the process on this page:: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimedia_VRT_release_generator? However, does he need to have a Wikipedia account set up for that? 2. I'm trying to make the process seamless for him, is there a way I can go through the process on my own with a dummy picture so I would know all the steps involved? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Archivingperson, yes, the copyright holder can deal with it on Wikimedia Commmons and that requires an account, but it is very easy to set up an account. If you want to freely license an image that you have created, and upload it for practice, that is fine. But do not upload something that is inappropriate. It could be a photo of an historic building near you, for example. Cullen328 (talk) 00:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

OTRS pending}} Is that the correct thing to do right now? Also it looks like a deletion notice was applied by a Anticompositebot. Is that normal? Thanks Archivingperson (talk

) 11:11, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Archivingperson. If the copyright holder has sent a consent email to Wikimedia VRT ("OTRS" is VRT's former name), then adding the "OTRS pending" template is fine. The copyright holder should receive an automated reply containing a VRT ticket number. This means their email has been received and they should keep a record of this number because it's sort of like a case number. Eventually a VRT volunteer will get to the email and assess it. If the VRT volunteer verifies the email, they will add the template c:Template:PermissionTicket to the email. This will make it known on the file's page that the licensing and copyright holder's consent has been verified. If, on the other hand, there's a problem with the email, the VRT volunteer will likely add c:Template:Permission received to let others know that an email has been received but there was a problems with it. The VRT volunteer will most likely also email the copyright holder and let them know what the problem is and what needs to be done to fix things. Sometimes the VRT process can take some time, so the copyright holder needs to be patient. If things seem to be dragging on to long, they can seek assistance at c:Commons:VRT/Noticeboard. They can use their VRT ticket number for reference. Now, it's important to understand that VRT volunteers aren't allowed to publicly discuss specific details about the emails they are privy to and they will only discuss such thing with the copyright holders who email them. They might be able to answer general questions asked by others on Wikipedia or Commons pages, but they won't go into specifics. They can't because they've signed an agreement not to do such things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly and @Cullen328 I've added the "OTRS pending" license to the File:Claremont Fan Court School in the air.jpg because the copyright holder told me he received a email confirming that he had sent in a "Wikimedia OTRS release". I also noticed that there is a Anticompositebot warning on the image saying the image will be removed in seven days. Is that something that I need to remove on my own? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 12:19, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Files tagged with a speedy deletion template like the one added by the bot are going to be ultimately reviewed by a Commons administrator. That administrator should see when such a file has been subsequently tagged with

WP:IUP#Adding images to articles; in other words, a file released under a perfectly acceptable copyright license could be removed by someone from an article for other (perhaps encyclopedic) reasons. In a case like that, you may have to establish a consensus to re-add the file through discussion on the relevant article's talk page. Sometimes it's not only a question of whether a file can be used, but also whether it should be used. It's the latter one that's sometimes a bit hard to sort out when people are of differing opinions. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 21:55, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly Thank you for all the information. I appreciate it! Archivingperson (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey Guys,

I had a whole thing with my only article being deleted, but it did give me a kick to get back into editing, so alls well that ends well... :) I've reworked the draft, and I was wondering if any of you would be so good as to look at my citations for me to see if they're okay?

I added most of them as cite web, because I wasn't 100% on how I should do them. I think a couple of them should maybe be news instead, and there's one which is an exhibition catalogue, which I couldn't find a template for.

In the process of the deletion, there was also a flag of it being a COI, because my username is similar to the article subject's husband, and it was my only article. I did contest it, but didn't want to get dragged into a whole thing... Anyway - In the course of that, I did email the artist looking for extra info, so now apparently I am a COI! Is there anything extra I should do due to this before moving it to the main space? The only extra update I need to make is to go take some photos of my own so I can legitimately upload them.

Thanks so much for all your help, you guys have been mega so far! Wil57 (talk) 23:46, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh - this is the article Draft:BerriBlue Wil57 (talk) 23:47, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

• • WP:NOT. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want to, a host is always readily available to attend to you. Celestina007 (talk
    ) 00:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

 LostCitrationHunter (talk) 17:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@LostCitrationHunter: This isn't the appropriate place to ask a question like this (Unless you're referring to arb com elections or something). Do you have a question about actually editing Wikipedia? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I think it's safe to assume he means ArbCom elections. (And possibly RfA's/RfB's, which are not elections but are close to elections.) @

casualdejekyll

19:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes i meant exactly that, thanks. so any relevant updates comes in the page you shared? (also i have updated the title to better reflect my intentions)--LostCitrationHunter (talk) 11:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

where is the use of country/territory flags appropriate? is it appropriate to use them in locations on infoboxes or no? please let me know as much as you can about the use of flags, thank you very much in advance :) ExtremelyUniqueUsername (talk) 11:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi ExtremelyUniqueUsername,

We have a written guideline about it in the Manual of Style:

MOS:FLAGS. For inforboxes, the answer from there is "virtually never, except in military conflicts or sports competitions". DMacks (talk

) 12:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

 116.72.128.97 (talk) 05:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC) I know how to edit but I don't know how to create an article so can anyone please help me

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! This article will be of great help Help:Your first article. Please be aware that creating an article is a huge effort for unexperienced editors and that you should get experience first with smaller tasks before. GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 05:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC). Ok I understood thanks for telling me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.72.128.97 (talk • contribs)

Since you are an anonymous user, you cannot create new articles directly, due to some technical restrictions. However, you are still able to create articles via the

H:YFA. Hopefully this helps. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS

— 15:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, can an editor possibly review my draft, making suggestions as appropriate? Draft:New_Forest_Pride --Shickman98 (talk) 14:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:CRYSTAL

).

I'm afraid it's a lot of work to be done (mainly by the organization itself, only then by Wikipedia editors) before the draft becomes acceptable to the main space.

But I do not review drafts for promotion to articles. Let's wait and hear opinions from potential reviewers. --CiaPan (talk) 15:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I do. I did. I see

WP:TOOSOON. May it grow and become notable. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me

15:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Can someone come and look at Draft:List of longest running film series and franchise it was submission 7 weeks ago 92.236.253.249 (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP! I looked at your Draft and it seems fine, however the Teahouse is not here to help you jump the queue for AFC. Remember,

there is no deadline. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:46, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft is already waiting for review, so please be patient. If you need any help with your draft, you are welcome to ask.

--

Apmh

14:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there! While you are waiting for a review, you could add italics for the film titles, fix the red cite errors, and convert the bare URLs to full citations. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:19, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I think the Draft will pass muster but I suggest you upgrade the references that currently say things like "Archived copy. Archived from the original" to show the original title. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

How do you make properly cited refs? Is there a Wikipedia tool that does it automatically, or do most editors do it manually? --Sorry sir, that's classified information (talk) 22:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi @

casualdejekyll

22:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

HI @Sorry sir, that's classified information. See the referencing sections at Help:Introduction, the Wikipedia tutorial. You can find out how to do it whether using the Visual Editor or the source editor. StarryGrandma (talk) 00:47, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry sir, that's classified information If you are going to do a lot of editing using journal articles as sources, I recommend activating the Wikipedia:Citation expander, which creates citations from doi, isbn and URL. Hence you can avoid articles having, even temporarily, poor citations like this one you added until it was changed in this diff. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:30, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello just wondering wikipedians Hosters i was wondering for my account back, also can I publish my own alternative world? --Cluster Lyn (talk) 11:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC) Cluster Lyn (talk) 11:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

email adress in its preferences (or it wasn't confirmed), so if you don't remember the password, there is no way to recover it. In that case I strongely reccomend that you set an email for this account and confirm it, so that this doesn't happen again. If you still remember the password of the original account, please log out of this account and then log into the old one

. The tip of adding an email adress still applies. If you don't want to get emails from other users, simply turn that option off after specifiying an email adress.

As far as publishing your alternate world,

Wikipedia is not the correct place for this. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 12:27, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Victor I have another thing.Cluster Lyn (talk) 12:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC) of you.Cluster Lyn (talk) 12:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC) please check this page Draft:worldbox (God Simulation game) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cluster Lyn (talk • contribs) 12:50, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cluster Lyn: It seems as if that page does not exist because the link you provided is red. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 12:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:WorldBox_(God_Simulation_game) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cluster Lyn (talk • contribs) 12:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC) Cluster Lyn (talk) 12:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)is it good?Cluster Lyn (talk) 12:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

notable. Also please don’t forget to sign of your messages with your signature by putting 4 tildes waves at the end of your message like this ~~~~ ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 12:58, 25 February 2022 (UTCe)

Cluster Lyn, what's the meaning of "high wealthy areas"? Who says it's "interesting"? What do you mean by "Very Popular"? Etc. -- Hoary (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

in the steam it has a lot of good comments.Cluster Lyn (talk) 13:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

SITUATION:

Why shouldn't those articles be Semi-Protected? Though it is a good idea to place Semi-Protection on nations/countries, as they could easily be targeted by Vandalism on Wikipedia, and they also have long and troublesome demographics (and history), and to give Extended Confirmed Protection to to nations like the Arab world, India, and Turkey seems correct, as those nations all have a more familiar and acknowledged History, Culture, and Demographics, unlike these two nations, which are both are not as power nor great as Russia, one of the three East Slavic nations. Additionally, wouldn't it be better if Russia had Extended confirmed protection? IDunno0things (talk) 20:04, 24 February 2022

@

casualdejekyll

20:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll, another thing I'd like to know that i wasn't really answered was, may you please tell me why Belarus has Extended confirmed Protection? Thank you for telling me. IDunno0things (talk

) 17:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:ARBEE ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

partisans won't shut up and can't change the subject. Palestine/Israel is the same way. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano}

20:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

You can use Special:Log to check why any particular article is protected. Here is the entry for Belarus: [6], which has been protected since 2018 RudolfRed (talk) 20:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

fixing ping to @IDunno0things: RudolfRed (talk) 20:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

PAGE BEING DENIED FOR SOURCES, BUT THERE ARE NO SOURCES Pacothesheepdog (talk) 14:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC) Hello, I am writing because I am working on the page for a scholarly journal, Atlantic Studies: Global Currents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Atlantic_Studies:_Global_Currents Editors are saying the page needs verifiable sources. Unfortunately, that's not possible because a scholarly journal IS a source. Scholars publish their work IN it, they do not write ABOUT it. What can I do to get the page live? Thank you so much.

Hello Pacothesheepdog and welcome to the Teahouse, you can still site journals using Template:Cite journal. I would suggest reading Help:Referencing for beginners. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 14:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:NJOURNAL. Read that carefully to see if you can meet the criteria. Mike Turnbull (talk

) 15:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Content has to be referenced with in-line refs (embedded in the text, which automatically creates the references undr References). If there are no articles about the journal, no article. David notMD (talk) 18:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I have created a page in VisualEditor in my sandbox for the red linked Carol Van Strom. I am a beginner and so although I have done my best to do citations, reference list, internal and external links and categories, I am sure I have made a lot of mistakes. If someone had the patience to help me improve my draft, I would be grateful. Balance person (talk) 11:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Balance person, welcome! Did you consider asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa SångThanks I think I may have found someone but if not, I will follow your kind suggestion!Balance person (talk) 12:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

nominate it for a DYK on the Main Page, which would raise its profile. Mike Turnbull (talk

) 16:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Mike Turnbull (talk) Thank you for your very positive comment about the CVS article. I am at a low skill level as yet so although I have read the DYK page now, it is still a bit beyond me. But thank you for the suggestion! Balance person (talk) 18:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I have recently created an article of

@

Anakin Skywalker. They are in the same article as they are the same person. ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 12:43, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Help:YFA. Happy editing! ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 12:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

talk

) 12:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Neo the Twin, please bear in mind that for many imaginable article subjects, substantive, reliable sources simply do not exist. -- Hoary (talk) 13:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

talk

) 13:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:RSN unless it is most obviously unreliable (like a blog). ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 13:37, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

talk

) 13:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:THREE, it is an essay and by no means a policy or a guideline. It is strongly recommended to make reviewers' lives easier, but it isn't required. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 18:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes I am editing Charlie Lee (Computer Scientist) with what HE posted on Twitter saying he has a "Hazy Memory" and I was just sayin he wants to go see a doctor I am sure he will know what I mean and approve it 86.24.226.37 (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

You're adding personal commentary to the article. That is not acceptable. And that is why you keep being reverted. Keep that up and you'll likely be blocked. Just stick to objective facts that are encyclopedically relevant, preferably cited to secondary source coverage, not cited to the subject himself. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

How do you make a subscript? Reckitdor (talk) 19:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Reckitdor: Use the html <sub> tag. See https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_sub.asp for guidance. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Moved from Talk:Wikipedia § Why Wikipedia the biggest Encyclopedia doesn't have Trivia?

Why does Wikipedia the biggest Encyclopedia doesn't have Trivia? 😥😥 (Kinda rhymes isn't it?). I'm kinda used to Fandom and Fandom has trivia, and my favorite part of Fandom's page is Trivia. 210.185.171.187 (talk) 13:28, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Fandom is not Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia. Fandom is a wiki-farm. and Fandom wikis can have whatever they want. Extensive trivia is considered unencyclopedic - see

casualdejekyll

13:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

As a Fandom editor, the issue with most Wiki's on Fandom is they have no sources whatsoever, and that includes the Trivia sections. Here on Wikipedia, the trivia that would be included on Fandom Wiki isn't usually notable enough to deserve a mention. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

And what trivia is sourced would probably be better presented as a normal part of the article. I can't tell you how many times I've read a Fandom wiki article with a trivia section that just repeats points already made clear by the article itself. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 10:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Also see

WP:TRIVIA

for guidance.

And trivia generally doesn't belong in the Fandom wikis either, for the same reason it doesn't belong here. The Minecraft Wiki, for example, has trivia guidelines too, and I often remove trivia from articles to be compliant with that guideline. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I mean, that might be because the Minecraft Wiki used to be the official Minecraft Wiki before Microsoft decided to make it unofficial, but that's besides the point. Actually I would say that depends on the Wiki you are looking at. Some Wikis have very lax rules, while others are more strict. That's merely the nature of Fandom. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I cannot remove the tag that says </includeonly> From my userpage please help FelixAnon (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello @FelixAnon: I think I have fixed the problem. I do not even think you need the noinclude or include. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 21:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

 MCB2022 (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse

WP:REDLINK. ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 21:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

because the page has not been created — Preceding unsigned comment added by FelixAnon (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello wikipedians , i am a editor looking for any articles needing improving regarding Fiddle faddle , and other Adminastrators i would like to edit and help articles daily or more then Normal 1,099 Articles published each day. --Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:11, 24 February 2022 (UTC) Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:11, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Fbhnhernhf: Welcome to the Teahouse! Are you referring to the popcorn Fiddle Faddle or Fiddle Faddle (musical composition) or User:Fiddle Faddle or something else? GoingBatty (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

The User Fiddle faddle or meant as another person on the wiki. --Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Why would you need to improve articles related to Timtrent's alt account? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:25, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

i wanted to ask fiddle faddle for articles for improvements Blazewolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:29, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah ok. You can do so at User talk:Timtrent (since Fiddle Faddle is their alt). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Also, for simplicity, when replying to me just use {{ping|Blaze Wolf}} instead of attempting to copy my name from my signature.― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:31, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

also why do you need to do your name Fancy? Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

It's my signature. I don't need to, it just looks nice. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

like also you and like all teahouse and Adminastrators on the wikipedia do the fancy thingy Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2022 (UTC) Even Panini and Fiddle faddle and others.

I'd like for you to read

WP:VALIDALT since you have stated on your userpage that User:DemonymsPlayer is your main account. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:37, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

so you read my user page ey mate? Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC) i have also can you do a clean start for my user? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbhnhernhf (talk • contribs) 16:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes because i was seeing if you're from another country that isn't english speaking because your English isn't really the best (no offense to you, just makes it a little hard to understand you). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

im doing a math test i'll talk to you at 3:00AM UTC-3 flordia. Fbhnhernhf (talk) 16:44, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't think Florida is in UTC -3 but ok ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

UTC-3 is pretty much the Atlantic ocean and bits of Brazil. Florida is -5 right now, and -4 during the summer.

casualdejekyll

17:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure part of Florida is in UTC -6, -5 in the summer, but that's irrelevant. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:56, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok.. so, something's off here.
1. This person claims to be an elementary school student and therefore should read

casualdejekyll

18:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Does anyone mind if I express a generic WTF? They could write a draft article about me if they wish, but I fail

WP:BIO by a country mile. If they want a list of stuff to do, way back when I was an amoeba there was a way of getting prompts about stuff to do ion their user talk page. The edit summary when this editor created their user page seems to link them to DemonymsPlayer whose talk page I have posted on. I declined Draft:Center Lake Park at AFC. Might they be seeking to learn how to improve a draft? Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me

18:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

19:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Casualdejekyll maybe I'll get some sales of my self published book, out of it! I sell a couple a month now, so I'll soon know! I shall feel quietly flattered, I guess. It all seems rather bizarre, though. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me

19:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Fbhnhernhf: Is there a reason why you aren't using your first account, User:DemonymsPlayer? --Jayron32 18:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

hello I'm back DemonymsPlayer (talk) 20:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@DemonymsPlayer, @Fbhnhernhf, please tell me, since you refer to me, what this is all about. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 15:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Timtrent: Maybe the proposal is to create articles about each Administrator (hence the 1,099)? Which is a total non-starter. David notMD (talk) 18:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD Well, since I'm not one, that has to mean 1098. How many admins do we have, though? And every day? Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

It's worth noting that despite the fact the user claimed they would be back at 3 AM, they responded at what is presumably 3 PM their timezone, since they claim to live in Florida and posted their elementary school in a since-oversighted edit.

casualdejekyll

20:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Timtrent According to Wikipedia:List of administrators, count is 1055, of which a bit fewer than half are quite active. This who do not participate in more than a year are delisted. David notMD (talk) 20:12, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

That is a very tiny number for the work that has to be done. Why did folk make RfA so huge a process? Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 22:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Uh.. because being an admin is a big responsibility? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:37, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Being an admin is

casualdejekyll

22:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm not saying that. I know it's not a big deal. But RFA is a huge process so that only those who are actually worthy of being an admin (as in they can be trusted with the tools) can become one. If people who aren't completely ready (but aren't necessarily people who have bad interests) to be an admin become one that can lead to some messes that will require cleaning up (yes I know even admins make mistakes sometimes, but probably fewer mistakes than if they weren't ready to be an admin). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:46, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello I have tried to add a notable ex pupil of Archbishop Tenisons Grammar School. Keith Harris attended Archbishop Tenisons Grammar School from 1966-1971 He won the Hairdressers Journal Avant Garde Hairdresser of the year 3 times and therefore was added to their Hall of fame in 1997 - This can be backed up with The wikipedia page on The Hairdressers Journal. He was a magnificent hairdresser and dressed the hair of multiple celebrities of the time. He is more than worthy to be on this page and feel that the page would be much the better for his addition.---- Completeterry (talk) 17:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

reliable sources to back this up, because other Wikipedia pages are not sources. ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 17:54, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

[Edit Conflict] Hello

Notable

" in the special Wikipedia meaning of that term, and by definition therefore are sufficiently notable as to be included in the list. This is usual for all similar lists in Wikipedia articles.

The best way to get Keith Harris accepted on the list is to first create an article about him (which will have to demonstrate his notability with references to suitable WP:Reliable sources), and then add his name linked to that article. Please understand that "worthiness" (or any other quality, good or bad) is not a criterion for whether someone (or something) qualifies for a Wikipedia article, the only criterion is their "notability", which really means "enough has been written about them, independently of them, and published in Reliable sources, on which to base an article." Be aware that Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source.

* There was one name not blue-linked in the list. I have changed it to a red link (i.e. 'linked' to an as-yet nonexistent article) because the person is already mentioned in several other Wikipedia articles, which suggests they may be notable enough for an article to be written about them. Red links are understood as a signal of this, and if such an article is created they will automatically become blue links. You could re-add Keith Harris and red link the name, but at right now you probably know more (and care more) about Keith Harris than any other Wikipedia editor, so you would be the best person to create the article. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.121.1 (talk) 18:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Keith Harris is listed for 1997 at Hairdressers Journal International, but a wikipedia article cannot be a reference. Note: only one of the names in that list is blue, i.e., an existing article, and the list itself is not referenced. David notMD (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

moved from my talk page ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 18:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Keith Harris' fame and stature can be seen in this one man show put on by Wella in 2019 - https://respectyou.me/portfolio-item/keith-harris-presents-at-wella-world-studio/ Also. https://www.hji.co.uk/inspiration/life-through-lens-keith-harris/ Please look at this for proof of Hairdressing Hall of Fame - 1997. https://www.hji.co.uk/british-hairdressing-awards/british-hairdressing-awards-hall-of-fame/ Keith Harris appearance on this page is long overdue. He was a and still is an iconic fantastic hairdresser from the most humble of beginnings.---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Completeterry (talk • contribs) 18:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Completeterry Order of work: Only after a draft about Keith Harris is written and accepted can his name be in blue at the hairdressers' hall of fame and at Archbishop Tenison's school as notable. David notMD (talk) 19:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't completely agree with that. Providing that one or more citations to one or more

reliable source(s) shows this person might be notable because of how those sources cover that person, then a redlink in 'Notable alumni' section is fine by me. But no good sources; no entry. Nick Moyes (talk

) 23:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

For example, like this : WellThisIsTheReaper.

If so, could you kindly instruct me how to do so?

Cheers, --WellThisIsTheReaper 23:53, 24 February 2022

@WellThisIsTheReaper: Click on preferences, scroll down to your signature, copy and paste the code for your signature (including the link to your talk page please), click the check box that says "Treat the above as wiki markup" and then save. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: Alright, thanks! --WellThisIsTheReaper 00:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@WellThisIsTheReaper: No problem! Glad I Could help! ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Also, please don't remove Celestina's response for no reason. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• • • WP:CUSTOMSIG helpful. Celestina007 (talk
      ) 00:05, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

casualdejekyll

00:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:CUSTOMSIG. Celestina007 (talk

) 00:46, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Oops, that was a response to comment that got deleted. Disregard

casualdejekyll

00:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

THe user who answered the question removed the comment, which they shouldn't have done― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:12, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:REFACTOR'ed and did. so. Celestina007 (talk

) 00:26, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Celestina007: Whoops I meant the user who asked the question not answered. My bad. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

No worries, that was a rather odd edit on their part. perhaps an error, I have permanently added them to my watchlist to check for potential problematic edits. Celestina007 (talk) 00:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

00:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

casualdejekyll, my thinking is, arguing lexical ambiguity now is rather moot. It is my thinking that we have answered the question asked by the user, thus our duty here is done, which is what is paramount, Semantics and modulations can be done in a different avenue. Peace Profound. Celestina007 (talk

) 00:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Celestina007: Hey, check my talk page for my explanation. Thanks, --WellThisIsTheReaper 23:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I was considering joining Wikipedia. I finally joined today. I am a traveller (and am fortunate to have my own travel agency 😊🙏). Please let me know how I can I contribute here. I've genuine data of so many places. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveVOo0y (talk • contribs) 13:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok, four tildes😊! Noted with thanks. LoveVOo0y (talk) 13:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, welcome to Wikipedia

reliables sources and not just any random blog. Also, Wikipedia does not accept any original research. If you are looking to create an article I would suggest waiting until you get some more experience as an editor. Happy editing! ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 13:44, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Traveling allows me to expand my knowledge. I have a history degree. Those are definitely something I'll pay attention to. Could you kindly help me in understanding your internal policies? In any case, I'm looking for what. I am a quick learned but don't want to do mistakes in a new platform. LoveVOo0y (talk) 13:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, LoveVOo0y, welcome to the community! If you need some introduction, I'd suggest to start from:

• Wikipedia:Five pillars to quickly grasp what Wikipedia is;
• Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not – obvious; and then
• Wikipedia:Core content policies – what we need to do (or not do) to keep us on the IS side and not to deviate toward IS NOT.

Happy editing! --CiaPan (talk) 14:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Are you interested in photography? There are lots of articles about places and things that could benefit from high-quality pictures. There are some lists of pages that others have tagged specifically requesting pictures, but new and novel images are generally welcome (though we try not to overload articles with them). DMacks (talk) 14:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Photographs need to be what you yourself have taken, not downloaded from websites, as that infringes copyright.

LoveVOo0y A suggestion: start by looking at articles about locations you know well. Scan for wrong or outdated content. Fix or add stuff, always using reliable source references. (Hint: Use your own Sandbox to learn how to reference properly before attempting to add references directly to articles.) Looking at Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle will be helpful, as will looking at the Talk pages of location articles to get an understanding of previous discussions. David notMD (talk) 17:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

LoveVOo0y If you are lucky enough to travel to places and want to know if there are Wikipedia articles about interesting features nearby, and whether or not they have photos in them already (and whether you have some you could usefully upload), then there is a wonderful tool called Copernix which maps the locations of Wikipedia articles. So, imagining that you were a deranged Russian leader who had planned to visit Kyiv and wanted to find out what interesting Wikipedia articles there were about that magnificent, and now tragic, city you could click here to learn more. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I'm in marketing with Thompson Coburn LLP. I just created a new Talk section requesting outdated information to be removed. If an editor could assist, that would be great, thanks! Spencecomms (talk) 23:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

conflict of interest (COI) with the company, but you have done the right thing by asking here. Happy editing! ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 23:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposed C.A.M. Article: I plan to write a short article about the Central American Mint, a coin production facility that existed in San Salvador, El Salvador from 1892 to 1896. After 1896, coins with the "C.A.M." mint mark were produced by foreign mints under contract by El Salvador until 1914. Wikipedia articles exist for the Salvadoran peso, Salvadoran colón, and several worldwide mints - as well as all of the mints that produced coins for El Salvador. I wish to complete this set. Will this article pass Wikipedia's notability criteria? Arthur6Morgan (talk) 21:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Arthur6Morgan, and welcome to the Teahouse. The only way to determine whether a subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for

significant coverage of the subject. Since you are the one who wishes to write an article on the CAM, it is up to you to find these sources. If you cite your three or four best sources here, people may be willing to look at them and say whether or not they think they are adequate; but it is not likely that any Teahouse hosts will be willing to go searching for the sources. --ColinFine (talk

) 22:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Colin. My primary reference will be Numismatic History of El Salvador in the Nineteenth Century Vol II by Roberto Jovel. He dedicates a chapter to the C.A.M. He also compiled coin production data in a separate paper titled GUIDE TO IDENTIFY COINS SALVADOREAN CIRCULATION 1889 TO 2000, which is available online. Needless to say, this subject is very esoteric. Roberto Jovel seems to be the most knowledgeable person on this subject. Other works are available, but they are all derived from Roberto Jovel's work. Bottom line, I will not be able to cite three or four independent sources. I reviewed Roberto Jovel's bibliography. He cites publications written by himself. There is no information about the C.A.M. on Wikipedia. Perhaps I should just augment the existing article on the Salvadoran colón? Would that be a better approach? Arthur6Morgan (talk) 05:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:SPS that book is not the best of sources. Consider checking some of the hits at [8]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 08:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

[9] should count for a

WP:GNG-point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 09:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Gråbergssång. I didn't know about LAP's reputation, although I did pay over a 100 bucks for Mr. Jovel's "book"! I'm working with a gentleman in San Salvador who represents a numismatic society focused on the C.A.M. I hope he comes back with other reference sources, such as local newspapers and magazines. Unfortunately, Mr. Jovel is quite the scholar and a wealth of information on an obscure topic. - Arthur6Morgan (talk) 20:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:SPS. I don't think there'll be loud protests if you use his book. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 21:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I will avoid using the LAP book and go directly to references in Mr. Jovel's bibliography. LAP has a really nasty reputation. Thanks so much for your guidance! -Arthur6Morgan (talk) 23:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC).

Can we add Featured Articles without 5x increase for Did you know nominations? MynameisShaun (talk) 02:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:DYKRULES it looks like you cannot. Also please make sure to make a section header next time you ask a question. Happy editing! ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 02:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks MynameisShaun (talk) 02:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@MynameisShaun: No problem, us Teahouse host are always here to answer your questions. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 03:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:TFAR. Mike Turnbull (talk

) 15:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I will try it here MynameisShaun (talk) 00:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

How do I protect an Image in the source editing? I couldn't find the option. MynameisShaun (talk) 00:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

00:53, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

00:57, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:RFPP. Even then, images rarely ever require protection since they are usually low traffic pages so vandals don't usually come across them. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 00:57, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

This is from the Featured article requests. MynameisShaun (talk) 00:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh! This is about editing the Main Page. Why do you want to do that, @

casualdejekyll

00:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Just wanted to see my article coming to the front page. MynameisShaun (talk) 01:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Er, for one, read

casualdejekyll

01:01, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok, so, the only article you've created I can find is

casualdejekyll

01:04, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay I will do it after creating more articles. Thanks for your help. MynameisShaun (talk) 01:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Quality, not quantity, is the ideal.

casualdejekyll

01:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Sure, I will make a better article 😀. MynameisShaun (talk) 01:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Good luck!

casualdejekyll

01:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks MynameisShaun (talk) 01:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I've determined that a person's name in an existing article title is mispelled, due to an "internet error" based on checking in with a more reliable source on the correct spelling. How should I go about correcting it? The article title is "Beverly Loraine Greene" but I am assured it should be "Lorraine." I received the following reply when I checked up on it "The spelling of Lorraine for Beverly Lorraine Greene should definitely be with two "r"'s. The spelling in our profile is intentional. Roberta Washington, who was the author of the profile, explained to me the source of the original error. I'm copying her as well, should you need a fuller explanation." Fothergilla (talk) 21:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC) Fothergilla (talk) 21:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Talk:Beverly Loraine Greene. Be sure to provide reliable published sources, and more details on the profile you mentioned above. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk

) 22:34, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Beverly L. Greene are redirects to the article, so people searching by those variations will find the article. GoingBatty (talk

) 22:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @GoingBatty. I have put comment out on Talk and hope to hear some people weigh in. My sources sent me a picture in the subject's own handwriting from the registrar at Columbia and these folks have really done a deep dive in reserching for the new article in Pioneering Women in Archecture, so I trust them. From a process perspective, what happens if no one replies, e.g., for a month. Can I unilaterally start on fixing it? Still need to understand the mechanics as I assume a page move would be required Fothergilla (talk) 22:47, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@

verifiability. If no one replies to your talk page post, e.g., for a month, you can submit a request to WP:Requested moves. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk

) 03:58, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

The page has since been moved by Rosiestep (correctly in my view due the Pioneering Women... source).

bold move can be performed without waiting for confirmation; if (and only if) someone reverts/objects, then a talk page discussion could be started. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)}

13:09, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, everybody (I mean: Fothergilla, GoingBatty, Tigraan and Rosiestep)!

Once the article has been moved, can anybody swap or merge talk pages (keeping their history)?

• Talk:Beverly Lorraine Greene
• Talk:Beverly Loraine Greene

CiaPan (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

move a page. Only administrators can merge page histories. GoingBatty (talk

) 16:12, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, GoingBatty. I've just added appropriate Merge-to/from templates to both talk pages. --CiaPan (talk) 16:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

The deed has been done! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata standardised templates Hi all. I'm not new around here, and this question maybe belongs over on Meta. I'm an admin and 'crat over on the Irish Wikipedia. We're using WikiData templates on article stubs, which allows us to instantly provide a lot of detail on biographical subjects - w:ga:Karin Boye, as a typical example.

The problems I'm having is that some of the sub-templates we pull in are elusive to me. For example, w:ga:Stuart Olding. You can see here that {{Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Duine/sport/rugbaí}} isn't being transcluded correctly, and will need to be scratch-built, including having the correct fields built out in the localized language with the right WikiData records. This is a bit above my pay grade (€0 - ha!), and I could really use some deep technical advice on getting this stuff going for our wiki. I suspect this is a common issue across Wikis of other languages.

Can anyone help, or maybe point me in the generally correct direction? Alison ^❤ 19:22, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

19:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Maybe

casualdejekyll

19:34, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! It's not so much a language issue as a Wiki technical issue that applies everywhere. I'm hoping someone here can point me to maybe an example on enwiki that works correctly, or someone somewhere can provide guidance in English. I'm bilingual, so can do the implementation part :) - Alison ^❤ 19:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Uh..

casualdejekyll

19:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Sadly, that template doesn't tie into WikiData. Thanks for trying, though :) - Alison ^❤ 21:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Alison: Among many editors on enwiki there is a reluctance to rely too much on Wikidata to provide article content. This reluctance derives from cases where erroneous data has been included in Wikidata, so the general preference is to keep the data for enwiki articles under enwiki control. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:50, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I can totally understand that, too, and many editors aren't experienced in WikiData management, nor does it get nearly as many eyes. For us minority languages, it's more of a realistic choice as we've so few editors and it's a good way to get content coverage in our native language - Alison ^❤ 03:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Smirkybec: - anyone in your contacts that could maybe help? - Alison ^❤ 04:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Alison: hey! It was @Dowlinme: who had been trialling Wikidata infoboxes on Vicipéid with the help of some Welsh Wikimedians (including @Llywelyn2000:). I can see if I can resurrect some support there? @Eolaíocht: and @Ériugena: would also be interested, I think! Smirkybec (talk) 11:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Smirky - I spent a good 4 hours yesterday, muddling through it all and - presto!! I got almost all of them working again, with a little help cogging from the Basque Wikipedia, who went through a similar battle :) - Alison ^❤ 03:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Need the help of community in improving this draft. I have referred from only reputable news papers and took a neutral tone as far as I understand. But, feel free to make the corrections or suggest me how the draft can be improved. Thank you in advance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Qentelli MaruthiSharma1234 (talk) 10:30, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Some of the refs at Draft:Qentelli, for example #4 and #5, barely mention Qentelli. Description of what the company does, in the lede, is not elaborated upon in the body of the draft. David notMD (talk) 11:04, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, MaruthiSharma1234. Apart from meaningless marketing buzzwords like "solutions", the problem with the draft - and the reason it has been declined as reading more like an advert - is that it is clearly saying what the company wants its customers and potential customers to know. But Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. For every statement you went to put in the article, ask "where has a wholly independent source said this about the company?" If the answer is "nowhere", then it doesn't belong in the article. (And statements by partners, or based on press releases, are not "wholly independent). ColinFine (talk) 11:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I wrote it twice in Danish on wikipedia.da and this was quickly deleted, although it is correctly written in Danish with citations. These articles already exist in English and German. Is there a way with which the article exists, remains and is updated as normal on Wikipedia.da? Wname1 (talk) 10:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Wname1. Every edition of Wikipedia is entirely independent of every other edition, and often has different policies and standards from other editions. If you are writing an article in da-wiki, it must meet da-wiki's standards, irrespective of whether it is a translation from another Wikipedia. You'll need to ask at da:Hjælp:Nybegynderforum: it's unlikely anybody here can help you. ColinFine (talk) 10:36, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

It's possible that Danish withdrawal from the European Union wouldn't survive an AFD either (Danish AFD at [11]), but that's my speculation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, I will go to https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hj%C3%A6lp:Nybegynderforum. Wname1 (talk) 12:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

1. Wikipedia article "President of Russia" states: "According to the current 1993 Constitution of Russia, the president of Russia is not a part of the Government of Russia, which exercises executive power."

2. This is, according to my short research, untrue.

3. It is also improper English, as the prepositional phrase, "which exercises executive power" has no object.

4. Would it not be true that, "According to the current 1993 Constitution of Russia, the president of Russia is a part of the Government of Russia, whose office exercises executive power."? Truthhurts34 (talk) 04:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: President of Russia  melecie  t - 05:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Truthhurts34, there's a citation to what looks to be a book, Constitutional Law of Russia, after the statement. What source did you find in your research stating otherwise? If you're confident enough in your finding, you can try editing directly, citing your own reference. You could also open a discussion on the article's talk page. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

1) The "Government of Russia" is a defined body, consisting of the Prime Minister, the deputy prime ministers, and the federal ministers. Since the president is not one of those people, he is obviously not part of the Government of Russia. 2) The phrase "which exercises executive power" has as its object "the Government of Russia". 3) I think you may be confused by the different possible meanings of the word "government", particularly between American English and British English. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 12:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I uploaded this image to Wikimedia commons

MaitreyaVaruna, hi! I have helped you and made a move request. In Commons only admins and file movers can move the pages. If you want to make requests in the future, if you're on desktop, look for the tab that says "More", then click move. GeraldWL

06:37, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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MaitreyaVaruna I have requested to rename the file. Itcouldbepossible^Talk

06:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done --Mosbatho (talk) 12:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

MaitreyaVaruna The big problem I see with that image is the unehlpful date heading. 24 February 2022 - present makes perfect sense today. But tomorrow it will be out of date, and next year it will be totally meaningless and useless to anyone. I suggest you change it to 24 February - 26th February 2022, as appropriate Nick Moyes (talk

) 14:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

In pudendal nerve entrapment#Anatomy, there is a link like 'perineal branch'. However pudendal nerve branches off perineal nerve, so 'perineal branch' should be directed to perineal nerve. I think somebody mistaked. Can anybody edit instead of me? LR0725 (talk) 09:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

edit request (see that link for details) at the article's talk page, in this case Talk:Pudendal nerve entrapment. ColinFine (talk

) 10:34, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. By the way I think you mistaked my user name. --LR0725 (talk) 14:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Brindisa

I've redrafted an article "Brindisa" which was rejected for using insufficiently independent sourcing for reference, as well as reading as if it was not independently produced (it was). The newly completed article has been complete for a couple of days but I'm not sure what happens next. During the redraft I may have made mistakes and I apologise if I've managed to delete any essential information. Derekguthrie (talk) 15:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

You deleted the feedback, where it said "Do not remove this line". In doing so, you deleted the resubmit button. I have reinstated it. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Derekguthrie I just want to mention that you're not quite formatting your references properly. When you read through a draft, or an article, you should just see the bracketed blue reference number [1] and not <<ref[1]>>. At the beginning of each reference you should remove <<ref, and at the end you should remove the last two >>. Leave the rest just as it is now, and that will correct your reference formatting. Best wishes on your Wikipedia projects. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, how do I disable this wonderful and extremely useful new "feature" that demands my attention at the top right hand of my screen to let me know that I've made an edit when I've made an edit? Thank you. Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC) Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Welcome to the Teahouse. Do you mean the message that displays "Your changes have been published", or it's something else? Lightbluerain❄ (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 16:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for welcoming me here, and yes, that one. Or the one that says "your edit has been saved", and all other unbelievable useful features that grab my attention for no good reason. Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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WP:Village pump (Technical) can tell you better on this. Regards. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk💬 Contribs✏️

) 17:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Dr. Vogel (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I submitted a revised version of Draft:John R Falck on 02/12/2022 and I would like to find out what happened with it, whether I can continue to work on it, and how and where to find it. Thanks Jmcapdevj. Jmcapdevj (talk) 20:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC) Jmcapdevj (talk) 20:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Jmcapdevi Now accepted article John R. Falck. Needs work!!! A Wikipedia article is not a regurgitation of a CV. Change Publications to Selected publications, and reduce the list to 10 or fewer. Delete all the superscripts you created in the text. And so much more. David notMD (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

David notMD If he had all those subscripts its most likely a stolen article. Reckitdor (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

My guess is copied from a CV. The university website page about Falck as faculty member lists only eight "Featured publications", so apparently not copied from there. David notMD (talk) 21:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Jmcapdevi - What is the nature of your connection of Falck? From your history of contributions, your only contribution was this draft, back in July 2021. And perhaps some editing while not logged into your account. David notMD (talk) 21:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Found the source. Its on Commons and almost certainly a copy-vio there and in the article. CV was uploaded by same user at commons:File:John R Falck 01.pdf and commons:File:John R Falck.pdfSlywriter (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Slywriter nominated for speedy deletion on Commons, with the editor there warned against copyright abuse. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 23:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

OY! This just got messy. Jmcapdevi: You put content at Commons that you claimed as your "own work", a PDF. Where is that document from? At this point I expect the entire article to be quickly deleted as a copyright violation. [Speedy deletion filed] After that happens, you can start all over again, copying nothing. Basically, Falck is notable, but the article is fatally flawed. David notMD (talk) 22:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jmcapdevj All are now gone, Please do not violate other peoples copyright again. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 20:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Since my original Draft:John R.Falck (commons:File:John R falck 01.pdf) was deleted due to copyright violations, could I submit a revised version of it in which I try to address as a new dratf?

Thanks Jmcapdevj Jmcapdevj (talk) 18:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello!

I am working on an article that includes Arabic names, and one of these is Badíʻ. There are a few situations where it is completely necessary to put an apostrophe S after the name; how should I do this, when the name ends in a kind of apostrophe, even if it's a modifier letter apostrophe?

Thanks!

Leejordan9 ^talk
_sandbox 19:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Leejordan9: Seeing as it's more than 20 minutes ago you asked this, and still it doesn't seem to have got answered, I'll try to answer even though I don't think I've had that situation on Wikipedia before:

• If Badíʻ is a man, I might mention him in one sentence and then put "his" in the next sentence.
• If Badíʻ is a woman, I'd do the same, but with "her" instead of "his".
• If I don't know, or if Badíʻ isn't a person, I'd probably use the phrase "of Badíʻ".

I hope that helps. Pretended leer {talk} 20:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! There are a couple of situations in what I'm writing that won't fully work in this way, but thanks for the response! Leejordan9 ^talk
_sandbox 20:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Are foreign wikis a reliable source? JamesSchovilleD. (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:UGC. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 17:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

ill}} for this purpose. Ask if you need further advice on that, please. Right now, Draft:Chōsokabe Kanetsugu only cites other Wikipedias, so you will need to go back to source articles, translate those, and write content based upon those. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk

) 18:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I think this could be extended to any wiki, not just the Wikipedia projects themselves.

@

user-generated. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 20:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

(Vaguely related sidenote: Most people seem to agree that The Signpost is not reliable, but I personally think it is. I wouldn't use it regardless because of the consensus.)

casualdejekyll

22:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I was recently looking at Talk:Open-source intelligence, and noticed the text started to become very small about halfway down the page. I couldn't figure out how to fix it. Anyone know how? Endwise (talk) 01:10, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Endwise: there was an unclosed small tag. I add the closing tag and it is looking better now. RudolfRed (talk) 02:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Please add this website URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_battery anywhere in this Steam VAT Battery article that you guys recently rejected. I am too tired to complete it and I don't have all the answers. If it was opinion based, I would not have provided two technologies (VAT storage in the CSP plants) and the DG8 steam wagon, both are tested technologies. I am trying to be nice here but it is you that is lying to me, claiming that my article is opinion based, solely because, for example, I used a Youtube URL. These are things you can easily correct to help make this into an encyclopedic article. Please add this URL to where-ever applicable and remove the Youtube video URLSL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_battery

Thanks for helping to help humanity and keeping it real because you and I know, it was only because of protocol that you rejected this article and not because it is invalid in any way. You do not need to be a scientists to see the obvious, that this is a valid novel type of battery. I am an inventor by the way: USPTO application number: 16/890,358 Patent number: US 11,218,788 B2. I have nowhere near the money to prototype what I am sharing here, and that is why, I do not have all the answers. I am relying on a leap of faith that Masdar.ae will pursue this. The only difference between what is currently within the Dg8 steam tractor and what I am sharing, is a VAT that contains (salt or another substance) and heating elements as the battery charging source. This is all very simple to understand. I hope you will help with it, it is very important! 72.142.115.6 (talk) 01:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. This seems to be about

Your first article and do your best to improve the draft. References to reliable sources discussing the steam VAT battery in detail are essential. Cullen328 (talk

) 02:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

You being the inventor also means you have a

novel concepts; they must have already been seriously discussed whether in the media or in scientific literature. And money is irrelevant - we routinely block people who operate on the assumption money means a Wikipedia article. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori}

02:58, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi! I am fixing a draft of a wikipedia I did that didn't have enough high level references..HERE IS THE LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adam_J._Bass. I have Two Questions: ONE: Should I cite the same source I did earlier in the draft again if I want to make sure people realize the second statement is from a previously mentoned credible source? I did this, but it seems weird to see the citation iisted more than once in the same Wiki.... TWO. Do these seem like acceptable sources? 1. Vanity Fair Magazine 2. Reuters 3. Wall St Journal 4. https://www.cbs17.com 5. www.Inquirer.com (the Philadephia Inquirer). Thanks so much!!! TruthLover123 (talk) 21:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

According the references cited (numbered 4, 5, and 6, 4 and 5 being to the same article), Bass was just one of Singer's customers, he wasn't "at the heart of" the scandal. Maproom (talk) 21:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

• • WP:GNG. Celestina007 (talk
    ) 21:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

WP:REFNAME to define a reference just once but use it repeatedly within an article. Your claim that this man was "at the heart of two of the biggest scandals of our current time" is an extraordinary claim the requires very solid references. The references now in the article do not support that claim, and frankly, I doubt that this person is notable based on these references. Cullen328 (talk

) 21:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Quote: Eliza’s father, Adam Bass, finally admitted he had hired Rick Singer, the now infamous perpetrator of the "College Admissions Scandal" which ended up seeing 50 or more parent, college staff and testing facilities, including famous actresses such as Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman. (1) Seeing them what? (2) No reference is provided. (3) "Actress" is now a dated term. (4) Pointing out that people are "infamous" or "famous" (or "notorious") is probably just editorializing and for this reason alone should be cut; but is also superfluous, as the fame/infamy of the genuinely famous/infamous will have spread to the reader, who won't need to be told what they already know. (FWIW, the [asserted] fame of Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman hasn't reached me; so perhaps neither is famous.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Additionally: An entire section of this draft is devoted to a "scandal", at the end of whose description we read: Bass is one of the only involved parties that was never charged. (1) If he was never charged, why bother with any of this? (2) The description of the allegation comes with what at first appear to be three references. One is to a Vanity Fair article. The other is to the very same Vanity Fair article. The third isn't the same, but appears to depend on it for this allegation. So in effect the section cites just one source. -- Hoary (talk) 03:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Amber Fort

Amber Fort built by Meena dynasty.^[1] -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 17:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Karsan Chanda, welcome to the Teahouse. You may, then, discuss it on the talk page of the article. Regards. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk💬 Contribs✏️) 17:33, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

You appear to have answered your own question. Do you have another question? David notMD (talk) 17:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD Isn't this a reliable source? -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Not me area of knowledge/ David notMD (talk) 04:24, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Resolved

On July 19 2021, he released his first single, פחדן (IPA: [paχˈdan]; lit. 'Coward').

or

On July 19 2021, he released his first single, פחדן. (IPA: [paχˈdan]; lit. 'Coward')

 QuickQuokka ^[talk]

The first. Not the second. Danidamiobi (talk) 07:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Danidamiobi: Thanks! QuickQuokka ^[talk] 07:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Is there a possibility that on Facebook with the name "Danexit" with about 11,000 members find the withdrawal from the European Union good to show on the (English) "Danish withdrawal from the European Union" wikipedia page? Wname1 (talk) 08:00, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

See Talk:Danish_withdrawal_from_the_European_Union#Facebook_group. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I know RtL and LtR text together is super annoying and buggy, but can someone please help me fix citations #12 and #15?

I've opened it in Chromium, and the glitch isn't there. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 08:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello QuickQuokka! In citation 12 & 15 change website=אידיבי from the Hebrew text to website=www.edb.co.il & the citations will render properly. Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 09:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@LooksGreatInATurtleNeck: Thanks so much! I'll go try it out! QuickQuokka ^[talk] 09:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

As an experienced editor, I would have simply created the article for

I could simply ignore Hitro and create the article myself, but in the interest of community process, I'd appreciate hearing from other experienced editors first. Ben (talk) 20:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:NMUSICIAN then simply state the number of that criterion. Hitro talk

21:01, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

THAT criteriON, or THOSE criteriA. Uporządnicki (talk) 21:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Grammar Police.:p Hitro talk 21:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

At a practical level, which three (or more) references do you identify as reliable source and about Filastine at some length, not just a short name mention? And the draft was Declined, not Rejected, which is more severe. Work on it and resubmit. Skipping AfC still means that all new articles get looked at by New Pages Patrol people, who could accept, kick back to draft, or even start an AfD. David notMD (talk) 21:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Refs 2, 9 and 10 look good. Third paragraph of career has a lot of event name dropping, but none of that is referenced. David notMD (talk) 21:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

2, 9 and 10 don't look good to me. They are all based on what Filastine has said to the journalist, and so not independent. Bdiscoe, to get this article accepted (or not deleted if you choose to move it to article space yourself), you're going to need to find several reliable independent published sources with extensive discussion of him. Writing here about what a great guy you think he is will do nothing to help. I'm not saying he isn't notable, in Wikipedia's sense; just that you're going to need to prove it. Maproom (talk) 23:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

• Generally (speaking) I’d like to add that
  WP:MUSICBIO is not a criteria per se in the sense most editors think it is, MUSICBIO serves as a (pointer) in the sense that meeting a criterion there is an indication of notability, and not that meeting any criterion there means automatic notability. Celestina007 (talk
  ) 22:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Parts of refs 2, 9 an 10 are interview content and parts not. David notMD (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

• Hitro asked me to "state the number of that criterion" from
  WP:NMUSICIAN
  , which I thought was already clear as I quoted from it, but here goes, in bullet point form.

• 1. "subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works", this is well covered by prominent news coverage, which as pointed out, are more than just interviews.
• 4. "non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour", many of the refs concern Arka Kinari, which is exactly an international concert tour.
• 5. "two or more albums on a major [] or on one of the more important indie labels", discogs cited for these facts.
• 6. "reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles", as noted, both ¡Tchkung! and Infernal Noise Brigade are notable enough to be wiki articles.
• 7. "Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style", as noted above, Industrial hip hop over the course of 15 years.
• 10. "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable", the draft includes 5 works, one of which is notable enough to have a wiki article at ca:Idrissa. Crònica d'una mort qualsevol.

That's *six* points of criteria from the list which says "may be notable if they meet at least one". Furthermore, I'd like to point out again, which people seem to be missing, is that this isn't just a musician, as supported by the fact that only some of the references bother to talk about his music at all. This is an activist / video-multimedia artist, who is also a musician; his notability may cumulatively include music, but is not limited to it. I mean, his projects have won awards including from the bloody United Nations, already. I am open to any ways the article could be improved, but notability is clearly not the issue.

Frankly speaking, except criterion #1 which is highly debatable in this case, the subject does not appear to meet any of the listed criteria. The labels are not major. I am not sure whether ¡Tchkung! or Infernal Noise Brigade will survive an AfD. ¡Tchkung! is already tagged for notability concerns. Prominent representative of a notable style is not proven within the article. None of their works has received reviews. Since, you claim that you are an experienced editor, you must know that an article on Catalan Wikipedia does not make something automatic notable.

They were stranded in mid-pacific which has received coverage from Pitchfork and BBC. Now, these coverage make them notable then you should resubmit the draft and wait for a fresh pair of eyes to review it. Large portion of the draft is talking about their music career so they will be treated as a musician. However, I am still not convinced that this meets notability guidelines. Hitro talk 08:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I did some Google searches about the award that Filastine has received from the bloody United Nations, I found nothing reliable. To be frank, I found nothing at all. You have not cited the claims either.Hitro talk 09:14, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

What I recommend at this point in time is to work on improving the draft, and then resubmit. Reviewers rarely review the same draft a second time, and given the strong statements made here by hitroMilanese - the declining Reviewer - I suggest that HitoMilanese not review again. The next reviewer may accept the draft. That does not make the resulting article bulletproof. hitroMilanese or other editors with experience with music-related articles might initiate the Articles for Deletion process. There, after 7-10 days of comments, an Administrator makes a decision to keep, delete or kick back to draft. David notMD (talk)

I totally agree with the measures suggested by David notMD. Hitro talk 14:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I came across about 50 biographies which an editor had added names and minor details of the subject's siblings, who were generally not notable themselves. In some cases, there were other comments about the relationship (e.g. got along with the sibling or didn't). Here's an example: Walter Mirisch revision of 11 February 2022. Is it appropriate to revert such changes (retaining any actual improvements to the article)? Fabrickator (talk) 01:33, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Fabrickator Non-notable relatives are not named, their exitence may be noted if relevant... "<Subject> has a brother and two sisters." More than that will need to be justified. The example you pointed out is ok because the brothers are themselves notable. If there are no article about the siblings remove their names and any other irrelevant details.

BTW the referencing in that article is a mess. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 01:54, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Spouse(s) named, but children not named unless articles about them exist. David notMD (talk) 09:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

For policy reference when the article is about a living or recently-deceased person, see

WP:BLPNAME. DMacks (talk

) 15:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

original research, which is not allowed. Do you have a more specific question? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

04:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

OR

misses the point, or is at least confusing. Maybe it depends on what you mean by public ... it can be behind a paywall, it cam be restricted to subscribers, etc. But as described, the file was downloaded, the issue would be downloaded from where. If it actually can be downloaded from the public net without any special credentials, then it's surely public. That it's in a recognizable format, preferably with some readily available application to decode it, that's not a problem, though we could perhaps ask about the provenance of the zip file.

Did somebody take a legitimate source file, modify it, then zip it up so it's actually a counterfeit of the original, of course that's not valid. But a source does not become invalid because the sole copy is sitting in some "personal collection" in a university library with restricted access. The fact that you traveled to that library doesn't turn your source into

OR. Fabrickator (talk

) 08:57, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

The file is available to the public.

talk

) 15:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

I agree with others that being a compressed or archive filetype does not itself affect its potential usability, neither in terms of

reliability nor citeability. If it's an archive that contains multiple files, the |at= field of {{cite web}} could be useful for noting the specific filename. If you'd like to tell us the specific link in question, you might get some more-specific feedback about reliability, citing-style, or alternate sources of it. DMacks (talk

) 16:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Volten0001: welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, it is not possible to use Twinkle on the mobile app or the mobile web interface. However, it can be used on the Desktop interface. To install Twinkle, go to the Gadgets section of your preferences, go to the "Browsing" section (which is at the top) and click on the box next to "Twinkle". Then click on "Save". JavaHurricane

14:11, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

Volten0001 Just to say that I use Twinkle on my tiny iPhone. As JavaHurricane says, it's one simple click in Preferences to enable it nowadays. I simply use Safari and open Wikipedia in 'desktop' view via the very small link at the very bottom of every page. I do, however, find it moderately awkward to access the Twinkle window on a small screen. For that reason, I do most vandal fighting and warning on a laptop or PC, not my mobile. Nick Moyes (talk

) 15:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@JavaHurricane:

@Nick Moyes:

Thanks a lot for the insight and advice. I managed to modify my preferences and enable Twinkle. I guess since I have a laptop I will utilize it when trying to combat vandalism. Thanks again.

Could I please be blacklisted? I want nothing to do with this group because you asshats deleted my article for no reason. SonicNASCARfan9 (talk) 16:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Always happy to oblige. Indeffed for unacceptable language used towards others. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Dealt with by Nick Moyes. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:06, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I have been editing from time to time and I have been working on one particular topic about music artist Qeuyl however every time I write about him I am being deleted over and over again, please help me write about Qeuyl. Fnf1044 (talk) 16:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:RS), independent of the topic and about the topic in some detail? As you can see at User_talk:Fnf1044#Concern_regarding_Draft:Qeuyl, that draft was deleted because you didn't do anything with it for 6 months. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 17:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång yes I have found 3-5 sources from blogs, magazines and news interviews as well as mentions in other wiki articles is this sufficient? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fnf1044 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Fnf1044, blogs are almost never reliable sources, and interviews are not independent sources. Therefore, such sources do not help establish the notability of the topic. Cullen328 (talk) 17:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:BASIC if I haven't seen it. Assuming Qeuyl is a living person, you should also take the time to read WP:Biographies of living persons, the "rules" here are quite strict. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 17:46, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Based on [12] it doesn't look hopeful, but of course google doesn't know all. This may be a case of

WP:TOOSOON. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 17:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

In a article, click “view history”, click “prev” on someone’s edit, and at the top of the page, it says “browse history interactively”. I don’t know what that means. Can someone help? 2603:8000:F400:FCEA:1C42:EDB0:EA70:1511 (talk) 17:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

If you click on those words, you get to see a timeline, which you can hover on and see info on past edits. Hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Asking as a parent, is editing in Wikipedia safe for my 14 yrs old child? Is it beneficial or harmful for him? 202.142.81.21 (talk) 10:03, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

All users, including children, are permitted to edit Wikipedia anonymously and without creating an account. All users are also permitted (and encouraged) to edit Wikipedia without disclosing or adding any kind of personal or identifying information about themselves anywhere on the project. For some more relevant information, please see Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy.

Wikipedia:Uncensored and Wikipedia:Offensive material

for more information.

It is possible to configure Wikipedia to not display images if you would like to – there are

many ways to do so. However, written content cannot be hidden with conventional software. Wikipedia:Advice for parents is a helpful guide. ––FormalDude talk

10:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@FormalDude: Correction: I would not say IP contributions are "anonymous", as they reveal your IP address publicly. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 12:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

It is a continuing source of bafflement to me that some people think that editing without an account is somehow more anonymous and/or secure than using an account. It is quite the reverse. Editing without an account exposes your IP address, which allows anyone to easily discover your geographic location, possibly connect your identity to activity on other websites besides Wikipedia, and even access your computer directly, if you are using a faulty firewall (although nowadays the latter is not likely). A minor should absolutely create an account, as should anyone who is the least bit concerned about anonymity. CodeTalker (talk) 19:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello 202, and welcome to the Teahouse! I recommend reading Wikipedia:Advice for parents and Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. Hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The best bit of advice I can give is for him to never reveal his age or even mention that he is a minor. Wikipedians reputations are entirely based on their behaviour and the contribution they add to the site, nothing else matters. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:12, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, 1. For this image: File:Claremont Fan Court School from the air.jpg, now that it has permission and a license, is it my responsibility to remove the AntiCompositeBot tag or is it an administrators task? 2. I added File:Captain's chair green test.jpg as a dummy file to test how the process works of uploading an image. I can delete it right away. Is that something that I'm responsible for or will a computer bot do that for me? Thanks! Archivingperson (talk) 19:06, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Archivingperson: For 1, You can remove the tag if it truly isnt copyrighted anymore. For 2, A bot can delete it but it does not look like it says it will be deleted. You cannot delete it as only administrators can delete pages on Wikipedia. Hope this helps. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 19:12, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Archivingperson: (edit conflict) I have taken the liberty of removing it for you and pinging the Commons Volunteer Response Team editor who approved the licence. I think they simply forgot. Regarding the latter image, as you didn't specify a licence for the test chair, you could simply leave it there for a week and after that time it will be deleted. Alternatively, you could click the 'Nominate for Deletion' link on the left side of the page and recommend it's deletion, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort for you. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello I have made the necessary changes and added sources in "Early life". Does this now comply with Wikipedia guidelines? Thank you for the support and best regards

@

reliable sources. ― Kaleeb18^Talk

_Caleb 19:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, How to change your color of the username on the talk pages? LockzZ (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2022 (UTC) LockzZ (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:CUSTOMSIG may be of help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 20:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi! I had an assignment to write an article on here for a class last semester, and it was a stub when I started on it. I worked on it for several months, and am pretty sure it is no longer a stub, but am still new here so want to ask. The article is Echinothrips americanus Pteridaceae (talk) 20:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:STUBDEF takes a look at the "stub" rating specifically, and gives a few length thresholds that work as a rule of thumb. But in general, determining which rating matches an article best is more art than science, and different editors have slightly different opinions. I'm no subject matter expert so someone could correct me, but the article looks at least C-class to me (could be B-class), so I've re-rated it as that and removed the stub tag. In future cases feel free to do these types of things yourself, as there are generally no objections to a person re-assessing an article that they created or have recently worked on. — Bilorv (talk

) 21:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm just going to get straight to the point: I'm editing Nicki Minaj, and I'm quite confused as to who to attribute this source to.

Source: https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/651761719/nicki-minaj-is-the-21st-centurys-insatiable-hip-hop-monarch

Should this source be attributed to

I would think just NPR as the external link on the NPR Music article just takes you to NPR.com when you click on official site. I am just confused as to why these are two separate articles that are not just under the article NPR ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 19:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I would say either is fine. Here's the case for NPR Music: the article is published under the logo "NPR Music" and in the "music" tab of the website, having been produced by the music division of the company. And for NPR: it's unambiguous and makes the publisher clear. The external links section of NPR Music needs a bit of cleaning up, but that's neither here nor there. — Bilorv (talk) 21:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

On a page at "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuwa-chan" that I created recently, the following notice appeared:

"This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles;"

I do not understand why the orphan notice is there. I have linked this English page to the Japanese page. What am I missing? One category link that does not see to be working correctly is the "Births in Hachiōji" catagory link. I am attempting to link to this URL:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Births_in_Births_in_Hachiōji

However, when I click on the link from the "../wiki/Fuwa-chan" article, it does not work. (How can I make a category link from "en.wikipedia.org" "commons.wikimedia.org"? The root directories differ.)

TNewfields (talk) 05:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)TNewfields TNewfields (talk) 05:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The orphan notice is because there are no links to this articles from other English Wikipedia articles. Links from other projects are not considered. Category links are for categories in the English Wikipedia. Category:Births in Hachiōji does not exist here, so it is a redlink and should be removed. MB 07:12, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@TNewfields An article is an orphan when when no other article in the English Wikipedia links to it.

Commons categories are used only for media files that are in Commons. The Category: Births in Hachiōji simply does not exist. It is quite unusual to categorize birthplace all the way down to suburb level so rather use the city category. Hope this helps Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:24, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@TNewfields Use Category:People from Hachiōji, Tokyo instead. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:01, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@TNewfields: I deorphaned the article and fixed the category. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

My name is Stace Darden and I'm the Director of Communications and a singer for the group so I do have "a close connection with the subject". I thought we at least met #9 of the notability criteria at WP:NBAND. (which is: Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition) when we won the Chicago Harmony A Capella Sweepstakes in 2011. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or leaving out so that the WIKI would be approved but I would love to have some help. I apologize for resubmitting so quickly after the last modifications I made (which were to remove hyperlinks from the body of the message and add References). We are an Independent group that has been singing for over 34 years with 5 CD's. Page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Northern_Kentucky_Brotherhood_Singers

Thank you,

Stace Darden Nkybrotherhood (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:NBAND#9, but moreover this guideline attempts to communicate when a group are likely to be notable rather than when they are. In my opinion, and apparently those of several reviewers, the sources in the draft do not show notability.

If the band is not notable, then you are not doing anything wrong—nobody could write a draft on this topic that would be accepted, as only notable topics are accepted. Being "notable" is not the same as being important or having achieved great things. It is jargon for "within the scope of Wikipedia", and we determine our scope based on a number of pragmatic factors, such as having an encyclopedia small enough for our core volunteer community to maintain at least a bare minimum of quality standards on. — Bilorv (talk

) 21:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Nkybrotherhood. The Chicago version of Harmony Sweepstakes A Cappella Festival is one of seven regional events leading up to the national event in San Rafael, California, so I do not think that regional event is a "major music competition". However, the biggest problem is the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. The Richmond Folk Festival source is not independent because it is promoting a performance. Same for the Chicago Harmony source - it is promoting the competition. The Russia Tour source includes just two sentences about your group, which is buried very deep. That is not significant coverage. The Kentucky Governor source just announces an award, and has no discussion of your group. In conclusion, none of your references meets the required standard of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Cullen328 (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you all for your comments. Independent Reliable sources....would something like this fit? https://www.nkytribune.com/2022/02/governor-honors-recipients-of-award-in-the-arts-includes-northern-kentucky-brotherhood-singers/#:~:text=The%20Northern%20Kentucky%20Brotherhood%20Singers%20are%20champions.%20It,Award.%E2%80%9D%20And%20you%20might%20call%20this%20a%20re-peat. ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkybrotherhood (talk • contribs) 21:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Nkybrotherhood, that source is not independent because the substantive content comes from Stace Darden, namely you. Cullen328 (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I’m editing Template:WikiProject Pakistan Super League and I’m trying to make the Quetta taskforce visible but it’s not working. How can I fix this?  Hamza Ali Shah  ^Talk 08:39, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hamza Ali Shah: Template:WPBannerMeta#Task forces states "WPBannerMeta can accommodate up to five task forces, each with its own image, links and importance scale, if desired. (More than five task forces can be supported through the use of hooks.)" GoingBatty (talk) 23:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hamza Ali Shah: Please check my edit to Template:WikiProject Pakistan Super League/sandbox. GoingBatty (talk) 23:12, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Pageview Analysis I have recently been getting a strange page with I check pageviews on any page when using FireFox browser. I have check the same pages with Google Chrome and I get the old analysis that I was expecting. Is this a problem that Wikipedia could correct or should I report it to Firefox? BuffaloBob (talk) 00:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@BuffaloBob: You're not the only one - see meta:Talk:Pageviews_Analysis#Not_working. GoingBatty (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, that appears to be the problem BuffaloBob (talk) 01:11, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, I need help with something. I recently created the page

@

WP:RMPM and post the requested move template on Talk:Černí baroni. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk

) 03:11, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am working on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sukhvir_Sanghal Please assist me with the citations, do the citations look OK now?

Thanks. Priyamchandra (talk) 07:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't think so,

conflict of interest; please state this on Draft talk:Sukhvir Sanghal. -- Hoary (talk

) 08:08, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Icosium

I ask my previous question differently : do you think the 14 th Source "Diocese of Icosium" in the Icosium article is correct ? There is the word "Suppressed" on the web page. Thank you to verify.

--Joisy78 (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Joisy78--Joisy78 (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC) Joisy78 (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Joisy78: The source says the diocese was suppressed. See also Icosium#Religion. The source itself is not suppressed and appears to be valid. 108.52.196.8 (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The source may be valid, but it does not support the statement about bishops of Iconium in Roman times. It's about a diocese that was established in the 18th century and suppressed in 1838. I have removed it the reference. Maproom (talk) 09:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much.

Sincerely yours. Joisy78 (talk) 19:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

The movie is scheduled to release on March 4, 2022 in US, and on 3 March 2022 in Bangladesh's Star Cineplex, 1 day before US. If I add the Bangladesh release date to the article's infobox and release section, will it be disruptive editing? Cottonseed (talk) 10:25, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@

reliable source to show that its release date is one day earlier, then I would not interpret that sort of contribution as disruptive. If in doubt, discuss your source on the article's talk page. Thank you for your question. Nick Moyes (talk

) 10:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: kindly see my edit. Are the sources reliable? Cottonseed (talk) 11:06, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cottonseed Yes, the sources seem quite reliable. But that is not really the point. Yes, they support your edit which stated that a film will be released on day earlier, not across an entire country, but within one chain in one individual city. That is not relevant to the article, which has a world-wide scope. As such, I agree with Rupturestriker, who reverted it.

So, my answer to your original question is that your initial edit was not at all disruptive when you made it, but I really do not see it is relevant to the Release section of the article, and adding it again without proper discussion would then start to become disruptive. I don't see that discussion siding with your point of view unless you can show that release across an entire country or continent is different to the worldwide date. I'm sorry that's not what you wanted to hear from me, but that is my interpretation of your good faith edit. So thank you for wanting to improve the article even if maybe it was not exactly what's needed. I would have said the same had you wanted to show that one cinema chain in one city in the US was releasing it a day earlier, too. Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Cottonseed Bangladesh is not the only country where the film is releasing on March 3, there are many more regions in SEA, and Australia included, where the film will release. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupturestriker (talk • contribs) 11:59, February 28, 2022 (UTC)

Browser or Wikipedia apple app?

I am an IPad OS user, currently using Safari for Editing. The Wikipedia app is in my IPad. I wanted to know whether the app would allow me editing? Waiting for a response from experienced here. --Nang Nandini (talk) 06:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC) Nang Nandini (talk) 06:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

hi

navboxes. happy editing!  melecie  t

- 06:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply. I can try the app. --Nang Nandini (talk) 06:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Nang Nandini: I use exactly what you do. I tried out the Wikipedia app for editing, but I ended up disliking it because I think it makes it harder to edit. I found the most helpful view of Wikipedia on an iPad to be the desktop view, which you can get by scrolling down and clicking on desktop view at the bottom of any wiki page or by removing the m in the url. Hope this helps! ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 13:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nang Nandini I totally agree with @Kaleeb18. I have a small iPhone and a while back I installed the Wikipedia app out pof interest, but soon abandoned it. It's fine for viewing articles, but absolutely rubbish for editing them. I also believe there are still issues that if another user tries to notify you of something - even issuing warnings - you simply don't see them. Then one day you wake up blocked because you appeared to be ignoring communications , when, in reality, you didn't see them in the first instance. With Safari or Chrome as your browser in iOs, you can choose mobile view for easy reading and very short edits, of use the tiny link right at the bottom of the page to switch to desktop view, where you get full editing functionality. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

22:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh hell, I am really getting issues with editing in IPad as the browser needs tabs and the Apple’s app created a mess. I must consider installing other browser than Safari. --Nang Nandini (talk) 08:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nang Nandini: I use Safari and it work just fine to me, but that might be because I use the desktop view. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 12:36, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18: I am in stack with my iPad. I need to open/back/reopen for citation editing. --Nang Nandini (talk) 12:44, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nang Nandini: Ahh yes, adding citations on an iPad is a pain as it is hard to copy and paste the title and url usually and sometimes while I’m copying the title from an article Wikipedia refreshes and I have to start all over with my edit. That is why I add in citations using a laptop. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 12:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

This has turned into me and Mztourist arguing, which is not even remotely productive. My recommendation is that any discussion continues on

How do I check if I have autoconfirmed role yet? 

You are confirmed.You are not confirmed. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 14:05, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Your account is less than 4 days old, so you are not autoconfirmed. You can check at Special:UserRights. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:11, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@

your user page and clicking "View user groups" in the toolbar on the left side of the screen. GoingBatty (talk

) 14:35, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

https://computational-discovery-on-jupyter.github.io/Computational-Discovery-on-Jupyter/index.html (see Chapter 4)

A search by Google Scholar brings up several papers (mostly by me and my co-authors, and many on the arXiv still, it's true). But for instance

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.laa.2020.03.037

is a paper in the very well-regarded journal Linear Algebra and its Applications. There are several others, and at least two PhD theses (by Steven Thornton and by Eunice Chan).

As for workshops, the first was the 2018 workshop in Manchester, organized by Nick Higham (FRS) and me; the second was the ICIAM minisymposium at Valencia in 2019 (Cleve Moler was a speaker at that minisymposium); the third at SIAM Annual Meeting 2021 (Gil Strang was a speaker at that minisymposium).

Nick Higham's column in SIAM News (his last one as SIAM president) was on the topic.

https://sinews.siam.org/Details-Page/rhapsodizing-about-bohemian-matrices

So I'm pretty sure that the topic *does* meet the normal standards for notability. But as I said I have a stake in this and so it might be better if someone would volunteer to write the article for me (I'm a total newbie here on Wikipedia anyway; just made my tenth edit today, whee!)

But if no-one else wants to do it, but at least one person other than me thinks this meets the criteria for notability, I am happy to invoke the Article Wizard and have a go.

Comments anyone? Rob.Corless (talk) 01:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Rob.Corless,

Welcome to the Teahouse! This is a noticeboard for general questions about editing on Wikipedia. So, your explanation of your sources goes beyond what most of us can evaluate. My suggestion to you is that we have WikiProjects where editors with specific interests can collaborate together. You are more likely to find like-minded people who could make sense of the sources you describe than the experienced editors who help out at the Teahouse. I'm so in the dark about what you are describing that I'm not sure which WikiProject this would fall under...maybe WikiProject Mathematics? But that's just a guess. You might browse through Category:Active WikiProjects and see if there is a more appropriate WikiProject that is listed as being active. Good luck! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Liz! I shall go lurk on the Mathematics Project for a bit to see if that's the right place (I suspect that it is; that's the way I think of it, although there are some people who think of it more as Mathematics and Art). Rob.Corless (talk) 15:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

have a draft which was recently declined and needed help reviewing it, also i would like to change the draft title if its possible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Babayo_Ardo from Babayo Ardo - to Babayo Ardo Kumo Kabirbapson (talk) 13:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kabirbapson:  Done! GoingBatty (talk) 14:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Declining reviewers of Draft:Babayo Ardo Kumo state that needs references to support text. It is also possible that even with more references, his government roles as appointed (not elected) may not justify an article. David notMD (talk) 15:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

There is a German Wikipedia article on the painter Christian Sell ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Sell ) which can be translated into English ( https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Christian_Sell?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc). The artist seems to pass the notability test and many of his paintings are on Wikimedia Commons. Is it possible to move the translation onto the English vesion of Wikipedia where editing can be more easily be done by non-German speakers? BFP1 (talk) 14:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC) BFP1 (talk) 14:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@BFP1: Welcome to the Teahouse! You can find some helpful information at Help:Translation. GoingBatty (talk) 14:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

hi BFP1! there also seems to be an essay dedicated to translations from the German Wikipedia specifically which you may also want to read. happy editing!  melecie  t - 14:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you both. As there is no English Wikipedia article on this subject, it will have to be submitted as a new article whilst crediting the source article. Another complication is that although the photos are on Wikimedia Commons, the titles are in German. These would have to be changed in the English version. I won't rush into this! BFP1 (talk) 16:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

In the first paragraph there seems to be an error. For services rendered, Huffman received $24 and 324 acres (1.31 km2) of land in 1838. Along with his father Abe, Huffman and a group from Louisiana settled in the area north of FM 1960 and east of FM 2100 in 1840. Location: Lakewood Heights, FM 1960, 734 Fall Creek Drive Huffman Texas 77336 settled in the area north of FM 1960 and east of FM2100, but the Location: 734 Fall Creek Drive is west of 2100. Jadusa (talk) 14:50, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Jadusa Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may want to raise this at the talk page associated with that article, Talk:Huffman, Texas, so that editors that follow that article will see it. 331dot (talk) 14:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Or just fix it. The article gets only 20 views per day, and Page views states that the number of Watchers is Unknown. Making a note of what you did on the Talk page is a good idea. David notMD (talk) 16:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I just removed the information. It had no source, and when I checked the sources already cited in the article, I could find nothing to confirm the information. Unreferenced information of this kind, which is already of questionable veracity, can safely be removed from articles without further discussion, unless sources are provided. --Jayron32 17:51, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Всем доброго времени суток! Подскажите пожалуйста, при оформлении статьи возникла такая проблема, фотографии без авторских прав (ну точнее на них никто не заявлял, фото сделанные коллегой) были выложены на викисклад и успешно использованы в статье. Через две недели фото были удалены, по причине авторских прав и недостаточности аргументов, что их можно использовать, в итоге статья "облысела". Как можно исправить этот конфуз и загрузить фото на викисклад правильно 31.173.86.126 (talk) 16:14, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse on the English Wikipedia, where we would like conversations to be in the English language. Pasting your post into Google Translate, I see you have a question about images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Your colleague can donate photos by following the steps at commons:Commons:First steps/Uploading files/ru. If you need further assistance with Commons, please see commons:Help:Contents/ru. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Rough Russian translation of GoingBatty's message for the IP who does not appear to understand English: Добро пожаловать в Чайхану на английской Википедии, где мы хотели бы, чтобы разговоры велись на английском языке. Вставив свой пост в Google Translate, я вижу, у вас есть вопрос об изображениях, загруженных на Викисклад. Ваш коллега может пожертвовать фотографии, выполнив действия, описанные в commons:Commons:First steps/Uploading files/ru. Если вам нужна дополнительная помощь с Commons, см commons:Help:Contents/ru. Translated into Russian with Google Translate ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, can an admin please tell me who proposed for deletion the article List of largest California cities by land area. The information is needed for a sockpuppet investigation where the suspected sockpuppet's first edit was to template the article creator with a prod notification, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 19:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: Pinging the deleting admin. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Atlantic306, Sikonmina (talk · contribs) nominated for PROD. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:36, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

thanks for your help, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 19:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

According to the article that was posted on your platform, Raye Montague viewed the inside of a captured German U Boat. This information is incorrect. It was a captured Japanese Midget Submarine from the attack on Pearl Harbor on 12/07/1941, that was toured around the country. It was the same vessel that Raye Montague paid one dollar to gain entrance and peaked her interest in becoming an engineer. 76.79.124.106 (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Raye Montague

Hello IP! Do you have a reliable source supporting this claim? If so you should suggest this change on the article's talk page. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

(ec) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please raise this on the article talk page,

verification purposes; unfortunately we can't just take your word for it. 331dot (talk

) 19:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Actually, looking at the article, it says nothing about Raye viewing the inside of a captured U-Boat or viewing the inside of anything. Did you possibly get the wrong person? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

In fact, it only says this: "after seeing a German submarine that had been captured by the Americans". It says nothing about her viewing the inside of the sub. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

So, there's this article (Byrd Dickens) but the inserted photo shows up as a thumbnail. When I remove the thumb formatting, the image becomes giant and takes up half the page! 😱😱😱 I've seen other articles on notable figures, and they never have a thumbnail picture. It's always properly formatted. I was just wondering if any more experienced editors know how to properly format this image. Any help would be really great. PetSematary182 (talk) 20:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@PetSematary182: Hello PetSematary! I've added a size parameter (250px short for pixels) to the image and removed the thumb param. I'm fairly sure the infobox should automatically adjust the size of the image but I could be wrong. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:53, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Blaze Wolf! I really appreciate the assistance. PetSematary182 (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182

@PetSematary182: No problem! Technically the thumbnail adjusts the size to a thumbnail (-ish) size automatically, however it adds a border around the image and is usually meant to be used outside of an infobox. Edit: While typing this I think what's causing it is that it's a link to the actual file. Infoboxes automatically add the file when you type the name of the file without brackets or the File: part. I'll make the adjustment when I finish this reply. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:57, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I added information regarding the acquisition of a company (Teach Away) along with a couple of sources. The sources were external. Yet my edits were declined and now the page has been put into review for deletion. Can someone please let me know what did I miss? Also, if the person who recommended the deletion can let me know where I went wrong that would be helpful. I am new to wikipedia editing but my understanding was to include as many external sources as possible.  Starkbruce574 (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Starkbruce574: Third-party sources with editorial oversight and identifiable authors that aren't just routine news and have no connexion to the company, its officers, or its surrogates. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 21:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Starkbruce574, Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 23:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

You added content sourced to the Teach Away website and content with hyperlinks to the company that acquired Teach Away (and its website). Thus, NOT external. If you remove the hyperlinks and finds indepdendent refs, the article may survive the AfD. If not, not. David notMD (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I have a question. I just finished the article

@

Gandalf the Groovy: Like this? ––FormalDude talk

23:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@FormalDude talk Exactly like that, thank you!

Hey guys, I am writing for a company based out of Toronto that has had media coverage. How do I come up with more sources or find those existing sources credible for my article. This company has a long list of reputable work. 207.148.176.143 (talk) 23:21, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

You have a

WP:Finding sources. ––FormalDude talk

23:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

See also

casualdejekyll

23:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I recently edited the article Chapin School (New Jersey) and a citation error for the enrollment error appeared. It says Cite error: The named reference https://www.univstats.com/k-12/new-jersey/princeton/chapin-school was invoked but never defined (see the help page). Can anybody help? (I'm a new Wikipedian, this is literally my first edit. Mr Reading Turtle (talk) 22:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Mr Reading Turtle, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. I'm afraid you have misunderstood how references work. The "name=" part, which is optional, is for naming a reference in case there should be more than one citation of the same reference in an article. The content of a reference goes between <ref> and </ref> (the short form you used <ref name="..." /> is for when you're providing no content specifically because you're citing an already-named reference again). The content could be just a URL, but there is a strong preference for a formatted reference that separates out the important bibliographic information such as the title, date, author and publisher. This is most easily done by a template such as {{

referencing for beginners. ColinFine (talk

) 23:10, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Mr Reading Turtle I changed the reference formatting. I hope this helps. Karenthewriter (talk) 23:24, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Mr Reading Turtle (talk) 00:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I read the article. Mr Reading Turtle (talk) 00:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

If we have disagreement with other editor, how can we have consensus to get dispute resolution, esp. when the disputed content is in low-traffic article as almost no-one notice discussion on it's talk page. Ckfasdf (talk) 03:16, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey! Have you taken a look at Third opinion? Seems like exactly what you're after here. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 03:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

I have tried that but rarely result to consensus, RfC works better. but again barely anyone put comment. Ckfasdf (talk) 03:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

With just three people I'd assume you'd rarely get a definitive consensus, but from what I've seen

dispute resolution noticeboard. Bsoyka (talk · contribs

) 03:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

You can also try putting a neutral notice pointing to the discussion on any relevant wikiproject talk pages. (Like

this notice, for instance). You can find relevant wikiprojects by looking at what WikiProject banners are at the top of the article's talkpage. Note that some projects are more active than others, so this may be more or less effective depending on the topic. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk

) 11:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ckfasdf: I assume this is about  Courtesy link: Polish Air Force. For your benefit (and for others that advise new editors here) apparently there's a certain threshold of dispute that has to be met before an RfC should be opened. I was summoned by the feedback response service bot to Talk:A Discovery of Witches (TV series)#RFC and commented, thinking nothing of it, and the initiator was subsequently scolded for starting the RfC prematurely. Apparently going to a Wikiproject page and asking for help first is the preferred path. I see you started a discussion over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#List of equipment of the Polish Land Forces and got some help there, so that's good. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Actually, it was not on that page ☺. If we really need to be specific it was on Talk:Belize Defence Force#RFC on usage of image2 parameter on infobox. I did ask related wikiproject first, but still no comments and then open RfC and notify related wikiproject. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I am wondering, as I added a Wordpress source that is the official Survivalcraft WordPress and wondering if that is reliable. 2601:CE:4002:A0A0:A029:C9A9:B866:298B (talk) 02:30, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP! No it is not a reliable source as it is a blog. See Wordpress' entry at

WP:RSP. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Wordpress is an example of a website building utility used by (often enthusiastic) amateurs to produce their own personal websites (

WP:SPS); some of these look very convincing, but will have an annotation footer, something like 'Powered by Wordpress'.--Rocknrollmancer (talk

) 03:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'd like to default order a list I've made but don't know how. Where can I find that info? Dutchy45 (talk) 03:18, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Dutchy45! Currently, the only way to set a default order for a table is to list out the items in the order you want in the wikitext. For more general help on sorting, see Help:Sorting. If you tell us which page you're working on and which sort order you want, we might be able to help further. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:21, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Sdkb, I made this list over a year ago and just looked at the talk page and saw User:SuperJew comment. I remember wanting to fix it back then, but real life got in the way and I just forgot about it.--Dutchy45 (talk) 03:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dutchy45 It looks like you're using {{Sortname}} for the names, which is excellent. If sorting for other columns isn't working as expected, you may want to specify the sort data type (see Help:Sorting again). Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:36, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb Ok, thanks for your help. Dutchy45 (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I have asked this question twice and didn't get any proper reply. So, I am here.

Rana Ayyub wrote this in March 2015.-Nun rape and church vandalism: The fringe is now mainstream

Her article ends, stating that Bangladeshis were not responsible and the accused are local demons(possibly implying local criminals belonging to ruling party). After the arrests of the Bangladeshi accused, who were convicted by the local court, an editor's note was added at the end, that the article was written before the arrest.

The editor's note was added after the conviction, initially, it was not there.

Contrary to what she wrote, actually, most accused were Bangladeshis. That was the reason, why the editor had to leave a note at the end of the article, after the conviction of real rapists.

She promoted her article twice through her Twitter account and did not delete or gave any updates, in spite of the court verdict.

https://twitter.com/ranaayyub/status/577862190906011648

https://twitter.com/ranaayyub/status/577805661460795392

Can this be inserted in the controversy section of Rana Ayyub, as she gave wrong information and didn't clarify afterward, in spite of the editor adding a note at the end of the article? Knight Skywalker (talk) 05:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Knight Skywalker, if you'd like to make a suggestion for the article Rana Ayyub, please do so on Talk:Rana Ayyub. (If possible, make a precise suggestion, as a "semi-protected edit request".) -- Hoary (talk) 07:30, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Its at 2900+ for a couple of days now and doesn't seem to be decreasing. WillsEdtior777 (talk) 03:20, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @WillsEdtior777! There are no backlog drives currently scheduled, but they appear to happen regularly, so you could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation. I know the backlog in that area is chronically long; there's just a lot of pages to go through. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hey! FYI, these backlog drives don't happen very often at all, and the most recent one started with over 4,000 pending submissions. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 03:25, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFCHD. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk

03:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I see,thanks everyone. WillsEdtior777 (talk)

Last drive was July 2021. It reduced the number from over 4,000 to zero. Three of the Reviewers were responsible for 3,000 reviews!!! David notMD (talk) 08:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Teahouse-visitors, My article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Caspar_Berger was rejected again because it is not supported by reliable sources. This seems strange to me, because it is a 1:1 translation of an existing Dutch article on this sculptor with the same references. - Are English editors more strict (nothing wrong with that)? - What can I do when there are no reliable sources to be found on the internet? Some pages with information about past exhibitions are no longer online and also references to his teachers are hard to find. - Is it OK to link to the website of Casper Berger himself? BregtjeV (talk) 10:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@

sometimes acceptable, and sometimes not. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 10:11, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you kindly for your time. IsaiahBrownMusic (talk) 06:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

With a username like that, you'll find it difficult to be taken seriously doktorb _words^deeds 06:03, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

IsaiahBrownMusic, if Isaiah Brown would like "his listeners [to be able to] find more info on him seamlessly", he can alter and augment his website accordingly. -- Hoary (talk) 07:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@IsaiahBrownMusic: Wikipedia is not for the up-and-coming; they must have already "arrived". And telling us to look at Google is like giving us a magnet and telling us to look for a bone needle in a barn stuffed to the gills with hay. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 08:06, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

You are on the steep end of the learning curve. Your User name is not allowed, as it suggests a business rather than an individual. Stop using this account and start a new one, or else use the name change process. You attempted to create an article on your User page, which is forbidden, so deleted. You attempted to create a draft in your Sandbox by copy-pasting copyright protected content, so it was deleted. Last, Teahouse hosts are here to advise, not author drafts. David notMD (talk) 08:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, IsaiahBrownMusic. I'm afraid that you have a (very common) misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is: Wikipedia has nothing whatever to do with

notability (and only if you do), then there could be an article about you - you are discouraged from trying to create it yourself, but not forbidden. Whoever created it, the article would not belong to you, would not be controlled by you, would not be for your benefit except incidentally, would not necessarily say what you wanted it to say, and should be based almost 100% onwhat people unconnected with you had published about you, not on what you or your associates say or want to say. ColinFine (talk

) 10:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

What is edit summary for every single editor? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:CDB1:E760:9B90:B9E9 (talk) 10:34, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

You can read about edit summaries at

WP:ES, hope that helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 10:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I am Billapartygang123, a new user on Wikipedia. For a few days, I have been trying to get permission for approval of my draft 'The Walking Zombie 2' but earlier It wasn't meeting Wikipedia's rules but now I have done extensive changes to it but now no one is even seeing it. Please see and approve my draft. Billapartygang123 (talk) 11:06, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Billapartygang123. I'm afraid you have done a common thing, and plunged straight into the most difficult task there is in editing Wikipedia. It's not that writing an article is particularly difficult: it's that by far the most important, and often the most challenging, part of creating an article is assembling the

independent sources on which every article should be based. It's like saying "I want to build a house: I can see what houses look like, and I'll make something that looks like them" without surveying the land to check it is stable, or inquiring into local building laws. Draft:The Walking Zombie 2 was declined by three different reviewers, and then finally rejected by Liance on 25th. Liance has said explicitly This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. In order to have any chance of getting a draft on this subject accepted, you will need to persuade a reviewer that there are sufficient sources of sufficient quality to establish that it is indeed notable in Wikipedia's sense. ColinFine (talk

) 11:27, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't mean to be impatient, or rush. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 19:45, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: Hello Quokka! If you looked at the review template, it says this, "This may take 3 months or more". AfC can take a few days, or many months or years (I wouldn't know since I haven't created any drafts and submitted them via AFC) ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: Hi! I noticed that, but I want to know, usually, about how much time it takes. Up to isn't what it usually is. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 19:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: I'm not sure if that's a question that can be answered since there's a huge variation in how long it can take. However if it is able to be answered I wouldn't be able to since I've only ever created 1 article, and that wasn't even through AFC. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: There really isn't a way to give you a definite answer. The category of drafts awaiting review is not a queue- reviewers choose what to review, when they have time to conduct one. It could be reviewed in the next five minutes, or six months from now if it slipped through the cracks. Typically, it will be what the message on your draft says or less. Do you have a particular need for a speedy review? 331dot (talk) 19:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@331dot: No, just wondering. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 20:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:NACTOR to read about the notability standard for actor articles, particularly the info about having multiple, significant roles.. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)}

20:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Well, I translated it from the Hebrew aticle. It originally only had 3 sources. I plan on adding more content and sources. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 20:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry about content until you have found reliable sources: before that point, there is literally nothing that you can legitimately put into the draft, and if you don't find adequate sources then all your work will be wasted. ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

QuickQuokka, here's what seems to be a widely shared notion about Wikipedia: I've found an article in the XYZ-language Wikipedia that looks worthwhile. There's no matching article in English-language Wikipedia. Because the original article doesn't carry any major warning template or similar, it has clearly been judged suitable for Wikipedia. So if I do a decent job of translating it into English, the result will obviously merit inclusion in English-language Wikipedia. This is at least doubly false. First, inclusion of an article in XYZ-language Wikipedia doesn't mean it merits inclusion there. (It might remain there because nobody has got around to radical revision, or deletion.) Secondly, even if an article does merit inclusion in the Wikipedia of one language, this doesn't necessarily mean that an article on the same subject merits inclusion in the Wikipedia of another language, let alone that a translation (even a good one) does. (There are additional problems, e.g. the naive belief among some "translators" that Google Translate and the like can substitute for proficiency in both languages.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:46, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary: Oh, I apologize! I genuinely meant to make Wikipedia better, I didn't mean it like that. Also, I didn't use Google Translate/any other machine translation service. QuickQuokka ^[talk] 04:26, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Expect around a month. Dege31 (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

A few wrong answers here. What is correct is that the backlog is not a queue, so could be hours, days, weeks, months. Reviewers pick what they want to review (with a bit of an extra look at the oldest drafts). Teahouse hosts may also be reviewers, but asking at Teahouse does not prioritize. David notMD (talk) 23:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

There is no analysis posted at AfC as to whether previously declined drafts get a faster or slower review when resubmitted. David notMD (talk) 11:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Daviddayag (talk) 11:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC) can we have a chat-like ux here so people can actually be notified when someone answers them? i've asked / replied many times and those just got lost. Daviddayag (talk) 11:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:PING people. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 11:55, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

thank you!

Can I ask another question?

I keep getting "you have to have consensus to edit this" when I try to add a video to the Sun page. Do you know what this means?

BTW at first I got "you have to have copyrights to the video to post it" but it's my video, I have full copyrights to it. Daviddayag (talk) 11:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Daviddayag I'll reply at your talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@

casualdejekyll

12:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi all! Recently I've been editing collected edition books into pages on comic book characters or a specific series, and I have noticed there is an inconsistency in publication date. For example, all of my current edits I've used the publisher of the books as the only reference, but I have noticed other websites (Amazon, Goodreads, Open Library, Booktopia, etc) have a different date, or worse several dates across these same websites. I've noticed from several books no third-party website has had the same date as the publishers' website, from what I've seen at least, which is really obscure to me. So far its only been off by a few days to a week, but that's significant when using the day/month/year dating system. Should I just stick to the publisher as the one reliable source? I don't really know if this is even worth getting worked up over. RadiganSupreme (talk) 12:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@RadiganSupreme Welcome to the Teahouse. You're right that it probably isn't worth getting too worked up about. However, my view would be to use the publisher's own website. All the other sites have probably accessed some third part book database which contains errors. I can't comment about comics, but I note that many monthly magazine are physically printed and on the bookshelves with a month one ahead of the one we're in. That could be the same with comics, albeit on a weekly basis - I honestly don't know. Perhaps you could ask at WP:WikiProject Comics. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, RadiganSupreme! As a former bookseller and editor I concur with Nick Moyes. Because of the logistics of distribution, physical books, comics etc. are (or were) routinely delivered to retailers up to several weeks before the official publication date, and some unscrupulous or uncaring retailers sell copies early, leading buyers to think the work is already "published."

Moreover, the same works, even when printed in one location and distributed internationally, are routinely released on different publication dates in different countries. There are also "international editions", typically sold in airport departure malls of a country before the work is officially published in that country.

Finally, intended publications can be postponed by various legal or other factors even after distribution. Reputable review journals are sent review copies, sometimes as bound uncorrected proofs, many months before intended publication so that reviewers can read and write articles about the work that will appear shortly before or after publication, and the journal may then print the intended date before some delay occurs.

As Nick observes, monthly magazines did and do usually go on sale before the month printed on them: in some markets, the first of that month is or was intended as when that issue should be taken off the shelves to make room for other publications and for that one's next issue. A more recent phenomenon is monthly magazines printing 13 issues a year, twelve named plus a "Winter" or "Christmas" issue: to spread their appearances evenly, the month-dated issues progressively have to appear earlier and earlier in the previous months.

Thus, third parties can be honestly misled about publication dates, or be unwittingly talking about different releases. The most nearly reliable publication dates are statements by the publishers themselves made after publication, or by other industry professionals such as an author's agent. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.121.1 (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for responding Nick Moyes and 90.209. Your responses have been so helpful I've screenshotted them for future reference just in case I forget. I particularly appreciate the detailed response 90.209, as you've explained why the publisher of a particular book is objectively the most reliable source and that resolves any doubt in my head. Thank you again to both of you so much! RadiganSupreme (talk) 14:03, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Speech names in article titles aren't supposed to be in quotations (

WP:RM). ― Tuna ^No_SurprisesPlease

14:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Can someone please add Judge Scovel Richardson (appointed by Dwight D. Eisenhower) in the list of "other courts" for African American Federal Judges. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scovel_Richardson Thank You. 68.132.199.37 (talk) 13:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Done. Ruslik_Zero 14:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

One of the sources I use a lot and was going to request be updated a few months ago, I noticed was updated a month or two ago with it's new name which changed early last year, albeit the link for the website itself is still the same as it's always been, so still contains the name for the old website.

Here's a few that I want to get changed:

• - Rename collections-search.bfi.org.uk for this website to BFI Collections Search^[1]
• - Rename to old.bfi.org.uk for this website to Old BFI Sight & Sound or Old BFI Sight and Sound as there's a new version which doesn't contain the same stuff as the old version ^[2]
• - Rename BFI for this website to BFI Sight & Sound or BFI Sight and Sound^[3]
• - Rename filmography.bfi.org.uk. for this website to BFI Filmography^[4]
• - Rename player.bfi.org.uk for this website to BFI Player^[5]
• - Rename www.screenonline.org.uk. for this website to BFI Screen Online or BFI Screenonline or even better BFI ScreenOnline^[6] Danstarr69 (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I assume you're asking for citations using those sites to be updated throughout Wikipedia, yes? I think bot requests might be the way to go. By the way, please don't use bold in that way: it screams "look at me! I'm important!" with no justification. ColinFine (talk) 10:22, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Danstarr69 And if you are asking about the sources for a specific article (it's not at all clear to me what you are asking) then the best place to make a suggestion would be on that article's talk page.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:31, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ohconfucius: Could you please consider adding these changes to your Fix SOURCES script? GoingBatty (talk) 16:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

How do I add a reference with a link? Jadusa (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

Referencing for beginners. Cullen328 (talk

) 18:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

the weekly mail has also been an Indian newspaper. Therefore, do not try to connect it to any one place. Also, keeping in mind its current perspective, play a role in its contribution. Source : Library of congress https://www.loc.gov/item/sn88063725/ 2409:4052:4E93:2704:0:0:96CB:E408 (talk) 18:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! While the Wikipedia article called

disambiguation page. GoingBatty (talk

) 18:58, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I confirmed that the seven articles that link to The Weekly Mail article are all referring to the Welsh newspaper. GoingBatty (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

There is a note on Talk:The Weekly Mail telling the OP how to request a new article. The OP has chosen to ignore it. DuncanHill (talk) 19:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I represent Peter Criss and am the webmaster of petercriss.net. I have been trying to make authorized changes, IE correcting his name and removing a photo but my changes keep being undone. Please help. Andrew sgambati (talk) 19:50, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

DISCLOSE FIRST, then we'll talk. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori}

19:54, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello @

WP:BLP. Then you are welcome to make suggestions to improve the article at Talk:Peter Criss. You (or he) don't control the article, but it's possible you can have influence. If you are interested in giving WP access more usable pics of Peter Criss (we are really strict about copyright), check this link. And please tell him I liked his book. And music, I still have LP:s somewhere. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 20:04, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

How do I add written text to the article entitled Hammelberg Bavaria a large German training camp established 1893 and a section used as a POW camp called Merseburg 1916 named Stalag x111-c Alliston39 (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @

casualdejekyll

19:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's Hammelburg, which is badly lacking in sources. Princess Persnickety (talk) 20:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

How do I change the color of my user name FelixAnon (talk) 21:52, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@FelixAnon Try Wikipedia:Signature tutorial. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:27, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I just created a main page for the Texas Tech University Libraries. However, either due to the category system or some other thing, it is still hidden in the search engines. I just want to clean up the category page for Texas Tech and have the library page easily seen for people searching for the page. 

@

WP:Search engine indexing, but your article was draftified and is now at Draft:Texas Tech University Libraries (TTU). As a paid editor, you shouldn't have created it directly in mainspace in the firstplace, and your username is in violation of our policies as well. Please review WP:Conflict of interest. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

22:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Template:Did you know nominations/Sallie House

I know I'm not a newcomer to Wikipedia, but I am to the DYK process. Last Monday I nominated an article for DYK and it was accepted two days later. However, I noticed that when a DYK is accepted, the hook is moved to a prep area shortly afterwards (e.g. Template:Did you know nominations/Catatos). Mine was not. My question has two parts: 1) How long does it normally take for the hook to be moved to a prep area? 2) It's been eight days since I created the article. Is the accepted hook still eligible to be promoted (since it was accepted when the article was under a week old)? Thanks, Helen(💬📖) 23:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi HelenDegenerate, it's all good. Your DYK nomination has been moved to the list of approved nominations, and it will be promoted by a prep builder at some point. This can take a few days or a few weeks – the prep builders need to ensure a diversity of hooks within a given prep set so it just depends. Your hook has already been reviewed for eligibility, which is calculated based on the time of nomination, so the amount of time it takes to be promoted doesn't matter. DanCherek (talk) 00:00, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

I incorporated some CC BY-SA 4.0 text into an article, and someone just chewed me out saying that CC BY-SA 4.0 wasn't an allowed license for source material. I just read everything I could find, and nearly all of the references say CC BY-SA is the correct license, and a very few mention 3.0 as being ok specifically, but I can't find any mention at all of 4.0. Is there something toxic about 4.0? Is there a reference to that somewhere, so I can understand the issue? Thanks. BurritoTunnelMaintenance (talk) 23:26, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Found it with a bit more searching.BurritoTunnelMaintenance (talk) 23:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

This lists the difference between the two, although as far as I can see these are more differences in explicit wording than in intended meaning. The "human readable" versions provided are the same (word for word) for both 3.0 and 4.0. What the differences in the legalese are, and what exactly the ever so transparent WMF legal team thinks makes the newer version is more restrictive than the earlier (although, supposedly, the only thing it does make some more explicit waivers and definitions) is beyond me. Somebody on the legal team) might be able to clarify, although you should probably contact them directly via email and ask them to provide a clarification somewhere on Wiki. Attempt: @AKeton (WMF): in case somebody on the legal team wishes to elucidate here. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@BurritoTunnelMaintenance, the issue with CC BY-SA 4.0 for Wikipedia is not with the copyright parts. 4.0 adds sui generis database rights, something which Europeans have but Americans don't, to the license. This would affect reusing facts from Wikipedia in some ways. (Facts themselves are not covered by copyright in the US). WMF proposed switching to 4.0 with a waiver of database rights, but Creative Commons said that was not possible. CC BY 4.0 is fine even with database rights because it doesn't have the share-alike clause for downstream use. CC BY-SA 4.0 is fine for images. This is original research on my part. As far as I know there isn't a WMF explanation available to serve as a reference for this. StarryGrandma (talk) 00:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

That link there isn't right - you're meaning to type

casualdejekyll

23:52, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

It looks like 4.0 is fixes to this problem. "Everywhere CC licensed works are hosted, the pre-4.0 versions of the Creative Commons licenses — the ones without the “cure” provision — should be disfavored." BurritoTunnelMaintenance (talk) 23:56, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

IANAL, but to me it looks like 4.0 is explicitly not compatible with 3.0 and before to try to motivate people to switch to 4.0. Somebody at the WMF got the exact opposite effect.

casualdejekyll

00:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Teahouse! I am trying to edit the history of film article up to at least Good Article standards due to its status as a vital article but I've recently been struggling with tying a cohesive encyclopedic format to the structure of such a broad topic. It seems some time ago the page was split into the history of film Does anyone have any experience editing on such broad overviews of wide spans of historical information that could offer any tips? Thank you so much for your help in advance! Windyshadow32 (talk) 21:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:BROADCONCEPT has some general information about big articles like that. Regarding structure, I'd look at the tables of contents for history textbooks on film—see how they structure themselves, and then build your article sectioning based on that. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

22:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb Thank you! Windyshadow32 (talk) 00:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

There is SO MUCH content without references. You may need to be brutal to remove content that is true but not moving the article forward in a significant way. David notMD (talk) 01:49, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I was just recently editing [States] and then some of the original details got deleted. Because of that, I went and redid it. However, I realised that something was missing. So, I had to go back and add the missing parts. Because of this, I felt like I was Doing some type of vandalism, and that's why some articles have Semi-Protection, to prevent vandalism on popular articles. If there is something I could to to prevent "spam editing", please tell me. Thank you. Mod creator (talk) 01:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@

WP:BRD. If someone reverts your edit, discuss it with them instead of just redoing your edit. This can help prevent "spam editing". ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:53, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@Muninnbot: Ji. -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 01:50, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@

Amer Fort has your answer. Also, you pinged Muninnbot, however you notified no one since that is a robot operated by a computer. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk

_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

One thing strikes me more on Wikipedia! If one has the psalms of a wrong idea, then the wrong can also be considered right. -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 02:18, 2 March 2022 (UTC)