Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/June 25

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Is this where I go to complain that 4 of the 5 entries are about wars? Stevage 14:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the text from "kidnap" to "capture" and removed "held hostage." Put simply, the Gilad Shalit also uses that terminology, and it is backed up by citations. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So help me out here: The complainer unilaterally makes the change on the

WP:ANI[4]. Meanwhile, he is reverted on the Gilad Shalit article with the edit summary, "rv lead changes: see sources.(also note its recieved long-term agreement".[5] I see a contradiction here, hbdragon88. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply

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I see there was a dispute about the word "hostage" discussed on Talk:Gilad Shalit#RfC: Use of the term "hostage" regarding Gilad Shalit and Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Gilad Shalit. Again, the Main Page defers to the article for accuracy or when there is disagreement, so whatever is consensus there should be reflected here. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• New articles (unused): Bombardment of Cherbourg
• Omitted:
  Rainbow flag (LGBT movement)
• Included:
  Operation Ariel (first appearance); Martin and Mitchell defection (first appearance); Gilad Shalit
  (3rd appearance, last in 2010)
• Repeats: Korean War (3rd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

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