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Wright brothers has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedian2024 created Category:Nose-mounted intake jet fighter earlier today. I'm not sure that categories for fighter aircraft based on the placement of jet engine intakes is particularly useful, and is probably a bit too narrow in scope for a Wikipedia category. Thoughts? - ZLEA _T\^C 22:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is also barely comprehensible as a term. Intakes aren't 'mounted'. An intake is a hole to let the air in... AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More technically known as a pitot intake. Categories without parent articles are in trouble from day 1. It's over-categorisation per

WP:TRIVIALCAT. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 10:03, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

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What Nimbus said. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 12:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reminds me of the category "pink-spotted twin-engined biplanes" (or something similar) that was once proposed - in joke, I assume. These "categories" never made much sense to me, anyway, but of course to each their own. Jan olieslagers (talk) 13:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was biplane tractors with unicorn sprinkles. I have nominated the category for deletion, linking to this discussion but feel free to comment there (or thereabouts). The creator should be aware as they were pinged at the top of this discussion and should also be watching the category. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 14:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My consent/support was added. And yes, your memory is obviously stronger than mine :). Cheers! Jan olieslagers (talk) 14:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The category has just been deleted (2 April), the discussion was closed as delete over two weeks ago and the category must have been in some hidden backlog pile waiting for deletion. To get it deleted I had to add a speedy template that linked to the closed deletion discussion, crazy! Just for info if we have to nominate other categories, the system is not intuitive (to me at least!). Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 13:58, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An old discussion has been revived. Feel free to chime in. - ZLEA _T\^C 23:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Alan Joyce (businessman)#Requested move 10 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Killarnee (talk) 02:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Aeroflot destinations. Sunnya343 (talk) 17:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Talk:Boeing#Intrigue/Conspiracies Section about the possible addition of a "Controversies" section to the article. This is primarily a response to the death of John Barnett (whistleblower) and other recent Boeing controversies, as well as a conspiracy theory that seems to be getting some attention. - ZLEA _T\^C 05:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I ran into this article while doing NPP, and I'm not sure how to handle it. I don't think this is a notable concept in and of itself, but I'm at a loss as to where to move the information or where to redirect the title. I think it's at least a plausible redirect. Trains are my thing more than planes, so I was hoping you folks would have ideas. Please ping me on reply as I don't watch this page. Thanks. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMO this article Improper flaps should not exist at all, it can easily be integrated in the main "Flaps" article. Jan olieslagers (talk) 15:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could be redirected to Preflight checklist as flaps is a check list item if they are a feature of the a/c type. Related but I couldn't find it here is the 'config (configuration) warning system' that more complicated aircraft generally have, horns and lights flashing etc if the throttles are advanced beyond a certain percentage with no flaps set. Landing gear warnings are related (low throttle, land flap set, gear not down etc). Many sailplanes with retractable gear have an aural warning system that alerts the pilot that the airbrakes are open but the gear is up. An overview article could be created but the systems vary. This subject falls under airmanship. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 17:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest moving to a new subsection in Flap_(aeronautics)#Principles_of_operation, titled say "Improper flap settings". Preflight checklist, as suggested above, does not cover the landing scenario. This page can then be deleted, as it is the setting which are improper, not the flaps themselves, and we do not normally maintain redirects for arbitrary phrases. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 12:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The whole thing is very vague and also not a term used in aviation. Flaps/slats is a pre-landing checklist item for some aircraft, my own memorised check list has flaps but they are not used until final approach. It's akin to being in the wrong gear in a car, we don't have an article for that (hopefully!). Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 14:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... pre-landing AND pre-takeoff! Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Steelpillow, the information in this article seems like it would fit well there. Also Improper Flaps is not a common term in this way and I don't expect many people would be searching it. Therefore it would not meet the WP:POFR standard. KittyHawkFlyer (talk) 22:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]