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ionic compound vs alkali salt needs to be revisited and maybe merged. Page views per day are 750, 260, 44, respectively. Hefty. I can tag them for merge, but to what? My slight preference is Talk:Salt (chemistry) because its more common language. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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I would support that. We don't always follow IUPAC, but the goldbook acknowledges salt but not ionic compound (it goes for ionic bond instead). --Project Osprey (talk) 14:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am directing the merge discussion to here since these articles seem particularly impactful. If someone doesnt like that plan, I will modify the link. --Smokefoot (talk) 16:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge/redirect of
ionic compound into salt (chemistry). I was prepared to support the opposite direction or oppose it at all (see my later-struck commentas my original struck comment at the previous discussion), because the lay definition of "salt" that is often taught is strictly as an acid–base neutralization product, but obviously salts can be made in other ways and the notional "acid" and "base" don't always make sense (H2 as the acid to form NaH salt; what the hell is the base that is neutralized to form NaOH?). But "ionic compound" is confusing because an "ion" could well be a covalent cluster so the classifications become confusing. "Ammonium nitrate is a salt; the atoms within each ion are connected by covalent bonds, with an ionic bond between the ions" is a clean statement whereas "ammonium nitrate is an ionic compound" is true but it leads to the false conclusion "it's ionic therefore therefore it does not contain covalent bonds". Therefore I go with IUPAC because they're the experts and I don't see any clear reason to do otherwise. And it avoids the problem of thinking a zwitteriondissociates in water: it clearly has ionic character, but it is not , given it is "ionic" (but does not contain ionic bDMacks (talk) 16:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Defer alkali salt until we establish the scope of 'salt'. But once so, we should also include acid salt in the discussion. DMacks (talk) 16:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment 6.5 years ago, we had Talk:Salt (chemistry)#Merger proposal where User:OrganoMetallurgy and I agreed with "merge salt + ionic compound" (and nobody else commented), but it never happened and there was no mention of a preferred direction for the merger. DMacks (talk) 16:41, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since this merge was previously discussed without objection (or much of any comment), I made a draft at
ionic compound, signalled by some initial red characters. So, if anyone has a desire to tweak what I made, go for it, otherwise in a few days, I will paste my version into salt (chemistry) and anneal it, then you can take a whack.--Smokefoot (talk) 02:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Your mergerino is looking good. I'll take a closer look when I have time. It would be a good idea to re-do the GA assessment which
ionic compound had in 2017 once you have finished. My preference for the merger is to salt (chemistry), mainly for the reason that many organic compounds have both ionic and covalent bonds and the term "salt" is fine for these. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Huge 'thank you' to Smokefoot for doing the heavy lifting on this! DMacks (talk) 18:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Name organic reactions, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DMacks (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry
I might be wrong, but my feeling is that Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry (project page) was getting old and dusty. So I removed almost all of the to-do list (most had been done), and rewrote some global statements. Others are encouraged to revise or revert or overwrite what is there. Goals of this page might be to welcome, guide, and, maybe, boast a little. --Smokefoot (talk) 16:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need to add to the to-do list as it is looking pretty sparse! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "things you can do" frame? I can add some more articles as I find them in the cleanup listing. Just added Glucoside, as it's still largely based on a 1911 source. Reconrabbit 12:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Our editors
Somehow, I've only just become aware of this Bot, which keeps track of editors on any given wikiproject:
Between about 120-130 editors edited 5 or more pages associated with WP:Chem or WP:chemicals in the last 30 days. Looking at the lists I can see everyone I would expect to see, plus highly active WikiGnomes and some spill over from adjacent WikiProjects - but about two-thirds to three-quarters I don't recognise. Obviously there will be false positives, but I thought the list might be useful to identify orphan editors or trouble makers. Project Osprey (talk) 21:17, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it will be that useful to us, since Wikipedia:WikiProject Directory has been inactive for quite some time, and User:Reports bot has not been updating any of the pages since 2022.
There is something I would like to bring up related to this though: is it possible for this Wikiproject to get updates on new discussions? I use the page that Reports bot generates on WP OSH and it's pretty neat. Reconrabbit 21:28, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't noticed that... blast! I wonder if that function is now performed by other bots? I had a look at ToolForge but I couldn't see anything similar. The talk page aggregation you're talking about also seems to be handled by Reports_bot (a part of it which is still working). It doesn't currently cover this project, I guess we would have to ask User:Harej? --Project Osprey (talk) 00:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Continuous distillation has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 04:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move at
Talk:Polymorphism (materials science)#Requested move 13 January 2024