Talk:Althea Gibson/GA1

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 11:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - a good piece of work, mainly technical issues... (P.S. I was asked by Ritchie333 to help out with the Women in Green project to get to 25 GAs before the end of the year, so this is my first review of that project's material...)

• "French Championship" is piped to a redirect.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• As is Wimbledon, U.S. Nationals and US Open too.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• And why "U.S." and then "US"? Consistency.
  • Fixed. Standardized to US. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• I would also avoid using two piped links to the same target article.
  • Removed the second one. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• I think it more relevant to link
  Associated Press Female Athlete of the Year
  than Associated Press.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Robert Ryland is usually known as Bob, and has an article.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Where is her height referenced?
  • Added HOF ref there. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• And her handedness?
  • Added ITF ref. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• And her highest ranking?
  • Added HOF ref there. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "organized sports.[9][2] " numerical order for refs.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• You have "(FAMU)" but then never use it.
  • I left it, because I think it is an alternate common name of the school. (It's not there to be an abbreviation.) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Understood. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• (While USTA rules officially prohibited racial or ethnic discrimination, players qualified for the Nationals by accumulating points at sanctioned tournaments, most of which were held at white-only clubs.)[21] This should either be a regular sentence or a footnote, not a parenthesised sentence mid-prose.
  • Removed parentheses. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• You haven't explained what USTA is before using it.
  • Clarified that the USLTA is now just the USTA. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Lester Rodney has an article.
  • Linked. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• You don't link Wimbledon in the first para of the Amateur career section but you do link it in the second para...
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "Singles" and "Doubles" are piped to redirects and to the same article...
  • Removed both. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Shirley Fry is piped to a redirect back to Shirley Fry.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "1957 was, in her ..." avoid staring sentences with numbers.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "Robert F. Wagner, Jr." these kinds of names no longer use a comma.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• There's a season article for the Wightman Cup at 1957 Wightman Cup.
  • Added a separate link for the tie. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "Althea Gibson is congratulated..." no need for "Althea".
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• " Queen Elizabeth II" is all linked but in the caption just the "Elizabeth II" of "Queen Elizabeth II " is linked, be consistent.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• " Waldorf-Astoria Hotel" not hyphenated according to our article.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• " nearly $1 million" not sure you really need to link this, and certainly not this far into the article when $ has already been used.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "Newark, NJ, " spell out NJ.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "Theodore Roosevelt Award, " is unnecessarily piped.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• "Althea Gibson's 1956 Wimbledon ..." again no need for the first name.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• What is sourcing all the material (including set scores) in the Grand Slam finals section?
  • Added ref columns. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• In sortable tables, all linked items should be linked every time.
  • I'm not that against adding these links for this article, but it's pretty standard to link just once in all other tennis articles. (There isn't much reason for these tables to be sortable, but that's also standard use.) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well the problem comes with once the tables are re-sorted, the linked item doesn't necessarily appear first, so I'd suggest either all are linked, none are linked, or the tables are made unsortable. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fair enough. I linked everything. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 16:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• There needs to be a key to explain what (2) means (for example).
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Page ranges need consistent approach, i.e. you have pp. 220–224 and pp. 167–8.
  • Standardized to full page numbers. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Ref 28 needs fixing.
  • Fixed, but I don't know how to link the book like in the other ones. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Use a consistent date format for all publication dates and a consistent format for all accessdates. They don't have to be the same format, but it makes no sense to me at least why they would be different.
  • Fixed. Standardized to US mdy format. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 23:13, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• No spaced hyphens in the ref titles, make sure they're spaced en-dashes.
  • Fixed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Are all those external links necessary? If they're so useful, could some of them not be incorporated into the main part of the article?
  • Removed most of them. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I have, so I'll put this on hold for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:50, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for reviewing the article, and for helping out with the project! I addressed all of the comments above. Let me know if there is anything else. And @Ritchie333: thanks for finding a reviewer! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Couple of responses inline above. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I added a reply. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy with this now, it easily passes the GA criteria and the work done above has made it even better. Good stuff. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]