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On 3 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be

Adiala Jail. The result of the discussion

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Requested move 3 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 11:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONNAME: A lot more sources for Adiala Jail than Central Jail Rawalpindi Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 22:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply

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This seems OK in principle but it should probably be
MOS:CAPS as it's not consistently capitalized in sources. — Amakuru (talk) 08:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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I would disagree with this. Clearly a proper name, even if not the official name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adiala Jail is frequently referred to as a complete name, so my interpretation is that if "Jail" is included in the name, it should be capitalized. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, it's sometimes capitalised, but the bar for treating something as a proper name in
MOS:CAPS is that it be "consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of reliable sources". In fact, we see a very mixed bag. Ngrams show a slight lead for capitalised version, but nowhere near that substantial majority bar. And sources not capitalising jail include these: [1][2][3]. I suspect that because it is the common name, but not the official name, many sources are simply treating it as a descriptive noun rather than a proper noun. — Amakuru (talk) 07:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
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I notice that many sources capitalize "Jail," and since we already have a redirect for it, all we need to do is transfer the current page to that redirect. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When some source use caps and others don't, Wikipedia prefers
WP:LOWERCASE. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:31, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Okay, let's use "Adiala jail." Also, take into account how other jail articles are named on Wikipedia. If most of them are capitalized, I'll still advocate for capitalization. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If moved at all, I still support Adiala Jail. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to Adiala Jail per Necrothesp and SheriffIsInTown (the proposer). Adiala Jail is the common title. HistoriesUnveiler (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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