Talk:Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1992–1999)

	Northern Ireland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Northern Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Northern Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Northern IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject Northern IrelandTemplate:WikiProject Northern IrelandNorthern Ireland-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Military history: British / European

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	British military history task force
	European military history task force

Ireland Mid‑importance

	Ireland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject IrelandTemplate:WikiProject IrelandIreland articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Section sizes

Section size for Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1992–1999) (34 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	428	428
1992	158	129,517
January–February	26,376	26,376
March–April	20,122	20,122
May–June	27,760	27,760
July–August	18,322	18,322
September–October	16,524	16,524
November–December	20,255	20,255
1993	9	105,957
January–February	20,604	20,604
March–April	19,569	19,569
May–June	13,754	13,754
July–August	16,490	16,490
September–October	18,500	18,500
November–December	17,031	17,031
1994	9	64,903
January–February	14,020	14,020
March–April	18,318	18,318
May–June	13,111	13,111
July–August	18,611	18,611
September–December	834	834
1995	1,941	1,941
1996	9	8,533
February–April	3,422	3,422
June–December	5,102	5,102
1997	9	27,727
January–February	9,025	9,025
March–April	7,150	7,150
May–July	10,724	10,724
September–December	819	819
1998	4,541	4,541
1999	1,967	1,967
See also	512	512
Notes	325	325
Total	346,351	346,351

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1992–1999) was copied or moved into Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–1991) with this edit on 28 October 2021‎. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Ages

QS, why are you removing victims' ages? Gob Lofa (talk) 12:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A) for consistency -- since not all ages are listed for all victims, either the Troubles or as far as I can tell, in general on Wikipedia
B) because I don't think they are necessary. It is an extra burden, and aside from exceptional circumstances (babies, octogenarians) they are not particularly relevant. If you want to add them, fine. Just let me know and I will stay out of your way until you're finished. Quis separabit? 01:07, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not all names are listed either, but that didn't stop you (nor should it). It's relevant information, so I'm going to put it back in. Gob Lofa (talk) 09:59, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on

nobots

|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20121110022657/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/exbritish-soldier-is-jailed-over-ira-attack-on-base-577616.html to http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/exbritish-soldier-is-jailed-over-ira-attack-on-base-577616.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{

Sourcecheck

}}).

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—

Talk to my owner:Online 07:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply

]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–99). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ

for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{

Sourcecheck

}}).

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 15:58, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–99). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ

for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{

Sourcecheck

}}).

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:50, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–99). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ

for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:15, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–99). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ

for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:04, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–99). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ

for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:15, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified (January 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–99). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ

for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018.

regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check

}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

14 January 1993 Loyalist assassination attempt

@

DagosNavy

:

Hey,

The citation source for the entry "14 January 1993: a senior loyalist was shot several times and killed at his home near the Shankhill Road. The gunman first threw a brick through the man's window, before shooting him when he went to investigate" doesn't say he was killed, only wounded. It does say another man was killed and CAIN's Sutton Index of Deaths does list a former Republican prisoner who was killed on that date. Also, the article doesn't attribute responsibility to a specific Republican group and notes that he was targeted by both the IRA and IPLO before. The page Timeline of Irish National Liberation Army actions already lists the assassination attempt as an INLA action and has a corroborating source.

Your respectfully, NelsonEdit (talk) 08:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. The reference states A man was killed and another seriously injured in two separate shooting incidents in west and south Belfast last night. The injured man was a prominent loyalist shot and seriously wounded by republican gunmen at his home in the Shankill Road area. No senior loyalist was shot several times and killed, as the article stated, and there's no mention of IRA responsibility for the 1993 attempt on the loyalist's life. FDW777 (talk) 11:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@

talk) 12:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

20 June 1992 Gun Attack

@

DagosNavy

:

Hey, other period sources detailing the 20 June gun attack mention that the security forces also found a booby-trap bomb under the getaway car used by the IRA members responsible and I'll add that. However, every report on the incident I've found only describes the target as being a former policeman e.g. Liverpool Echo 23 June 1992: SECURITY forces in Ulster defused a large IRA booby-trap bomb found under a car used by gunmen who launched a weekend attack on a former policeman's home in Pomeroy, Co Tyrone. Did the IRA issue a statement claiming their intended victim was tied to Loyalist paramilitaries?

Yours respectfully, --NelsonEdit2 (talk) 18:24, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @

talk) 22:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

September 1991 tractor bomb

There's been some confusion over an abortive bomb attack near Roslea, County Fermanagh involving a tractor in 1991. Previously the entry for 4 September listed without detail a proxy bomb attack in Count Armagh but this was corrected with a merge a few days ago. The entry originally described an attack involving a remote-control bomb but I've found at least one source outlining a proxy bomb attack; Evening Herald September 5:

Page 41 Ten IRA men burst into a house close to the checkpoint at Annaghmartin on Tuesday evening. They held five members of a family hostage and beat up some of them while their parents were away. The Rev. Edwy Kille said three of the family, aged three to 20, were tied up and forced to lie on the floor of a bedroom while two others were led away across a field. He believed one of the young men was taken into a field and forced to drive the bomb, concealed in a silage trailer behind a tractor, to the checkpoint. The plan went wrong when the trailer became bogged down and the driver was forced to make his way home barefoot. At one stage one of the family tried to escape from a first floor window but was caught by the terrorists.

Also, Page 327 of Ballymurphy and the Irish War describes the bomb as a "proxy device". I'll hold off making any edits without a bit of further digging but thought anyone keeping an eye on this article to ought to know :)

Respectfully, NelsonEdit2 (talk) 00:07, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @

talk) 15:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

Splitting this article

This article is currently one of the largest on the wiki, with 434,899 bytes, which is far too long. After looking at the section sizes and doing some math, there are two options:

Split this article into Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1990–1992) with 281,492 bytes, and Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (1993–1999) with 153,407 bytes. Even though it is not a perfect split in half, it makes the most sense given the other pages (each of them being sorted by decade).
Split 1991 and 1992 into their own articles, which would leave this article with 229,634 bytes.

I am open to either option, though I feel that the first one makes more sense given that these articles are all sorted by decade. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 19:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am for the first solution, in order to respect the chronological order.--Darius (talk) 22:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update: It actually seems like the 1993 section has gotten longer, as it now has ~81,000 bytes. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 15:35, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am also for the first solution, but I am not really keen on imperfect splits. :( zsteve21 (talk) 11:36, 29 September 2021 (BST)

I want your opinion on whether it's better to split the article into (January 1990 - June 1992) and (July 1992 - December 1999), or into (1990-1994) and (1995-1999) zsteve21 (talk) 10:37, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that doing January 1990–June 1992 and July 1992–December 1999 would be better, since the first four sections are so large that a split by 1990–1994 and 1995–1999 would be disproportionate. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 13:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's no need to rush to split the article.

WP:HASTE states, quoting: "As browsers have improved, there is no need for haste in splitting an article when it starts getting large. Sometimes an article simply needs to be big to give the subject adequate coverage. If uncertain, or with high profile articles, start a discussion on the talkpage regarding the overall topic structure. Determine whether the topic should be treated as several shorter articles and, if so, how best to organize them. If the discussion makes no progress consider adding one of the split tags in order to get feedback from other editors." Ergzay (talk) 03:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply

]

It seems as though there is consensus for splitting. The article is currently too long, and there is also

WP:SPLIT. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply

]