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Countertenor voice

I edited this section to remove the weird hair-splitting of voice types that didn't seem to be either general or useful. Neither did it represent anything like musical consensus. For this reason I also removed the 'disputed' tag. LeoTrottier 20:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The remark about Nick Petera will be removed, as it seems to use the term "countertenor" in way as to describe a voice style, which is not a valid meaning for the term. As described in the "voice" section, the term "countertenor" refers chiefly to a part range, not a voice style, although the applicability of the term is limited to grown men. Safulop (talk) 23:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

More revision

Hello, I've done another edit on this page, though I forgot to sign it: bother! - Comments, please.--62.56.102.39 (talk) 08:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)-- Now I remembered ... voxclamans (talk) 08:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

And some more. Unfortunately, I do not have Peter Giles'books to hand. Could someone please add page references as appropriate. Thank you.--voxclamans (talk) 10:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Listen and compare

I have removed this section, it having been suggested to me that, strictly speaking, the Youtube links placed here may have been copyright infringements. Could someone who is well-informed about such matters help, please?--voxclamans (talk) 17:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

As the information is not actually contained on wikipedia itself but merely linking to you tube than it is not a copyright infringment. Such videos may or may not be breaking copyright laws but the responsible party would be you tube and not wikipedia. You tube links are quite common on wikipedia articles so I don't think it should be a problem.
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Modal Countertenors

Should Radu Marian also be considered an example of such? He sounds like the real thing to me.
74.182.241.159 (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Radu Marian is what is known as an "endocrinological castrati". (see

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) 03:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Uniforming this article with other voice type pages

This article is quite good and obviously a lot of research has gone into it. However, its structure does not match that of most of the other voice type articles. I am personally not knowledgable enough on this subject matter to feel comfortable changing that but I would appriciate it if someone would take on the job of making the page more uniform in structure with the other articles. Take a look at

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) 05:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Merging male alto page into this one

I think that this page already covers the topic of male alto and that page should be redirected here.

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) 19:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree, and the other article doesn't cite any resources anyway.Insearchofintelligentlife (talk) 23:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Jonsi Birgisson

I am just wondering whether Jonsi Birgisson of the Icelandic band Sigur Ros could be counted as a countertennor as he often uses a very high falsetto style voice. If you agree then I suggest he put on the list of countertennors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.95.41 (talk) 15:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Steve Perry?

Surprised to see Freddie Mercury listed, but accurate. Am wondering, if modern popular voices are included, whether Perry would qualify. Vocal range appears to match, particularly in early career.

JanisCortese (talk) 15:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I am skeptical about the Steve Perry example. Has anyone heard him sing above tenor high C? I would like some examples before I agree with this. A much more obvious example from pop/rock genres is Jon Anderson, who routinely sings alto high D and E-flat in a modal voice, and occasionally reaches for a difficult high E. 01:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Safulop (talkcontribs)